2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[The Wicked Mitch]

TL;DR. Stop dooming, we're not going into gulags.

Judging by the amount of people I see wearing their mark of humiliation like good goys I'd say we're already in one.

 

[Sekirodiealot]

The road to progressive utopia is becoming cleaner and cleaner.

Idk bout that, friend. I don't even know who's gonna win so I'm just gonna have to wait. It'll be interesting if someone from the third party won in the end instead.

 

[Kknd]

Here's the problem with your absolute doomerism, you seem to think that people take things lying down very easily, and I'm not blaming you considering just how the Right acts every time they're opposed by the left. Here's the issue, the reason why right wingers don't oppose is not necessarily because they're cucks, it's because they make a calculated decision on what they have to lose vs what they can win. Why don't right wingers go against antifa? Because they realize that they can lose their jobs, their bank account, etc. It's just not worth it because they have something at stake that they're not willing to lose.

Take me for example. Even after this election I thankfully still have my job, I'm still saving to buy a house, I have a girlfriend that I can marry and start a family with, I have possessions that can entertain me: books, movies, games, comics, etc. At the end of the day, giving up my life is just not worth it and I'd venture out to guess that most people do that same calculation when they take risks. You seem to think that government can just exist even without the consent of the population. That is simply not true. Libya and Egypt both got rid of the American backed governments after the Arab Spring because the astroturfed ones were not truly willed in by the majority of the population.

Everybody always quotes 1984 as the dystopian novel and you seem to think we're heading in that direction for conservatives. However, you have to remind yourself that in that book, we mostly look at the world from Winston's perspective, who is himself a member of the Party. Only 15% of the population are members of the party and have to live by the strict rules of the Big Brother government. The majority of the population, the plebs, are written by Orwell as not really having changed much from the working class of Britain. They still enjoy the same things: soccer, drinking, partying, etc. They even have a life expectancy that was average for the Brits in 1945 when the book was written (60 years old). They didn't act against the government because the government wasn't constantly flicking a finger at their foreheads and annoying them the way they annoyed the Party members.

What I'm saying is that I have a future, which is why you won't see me take direct action against Antifa or the lefties. But in your world, they would come for my job, they would come for my home, they would turn my girlfriend into disgusting fat dangerhair, they would put me in prison for not going to a rally, and troon out my kids, they would force me to watch their propaganda like I have a telesreen in my home, and on top of that, they plan to take me to a gulag. If that future that you're dooming over comes to pass, then I have nothing lose anymore, and a lot of people probably are probably going to listen a little more closely to that Boomerwaffen nutjob telling us to go bomb the judge that took everything from us.

TL;DR. Stop dooming, we're not going into gulags.

May your chains set lightly upon you

 

[JambledUpWords]

Idk bout that, friend. I don't even know who's gonna win so I'm just gonna have to wait. It'll be interesting if someone from the third party won in the end instead.

It’s going to be Jeb

It goes to a contingent election and Congress chooses Jeb as a compromise

 

[Sekirodiealot]

It’s going to be Jeb
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How would the media react if in a scenario were the third party won?

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

You can't call for decertification when you already certified.

 

[JambledUpWords]

How would the media react if in a scenario were the third party won?

Mountains of salt from all sides and the media having a possibly bigger tantrum than if Trump won. They may hate Republicans, but they detest third parties even more.

 

[Dr J]

You can't call for decertification when you already certified.

Yes you can. That's the only time you can call for decertification

 

[mandatorylurk]

If/When SCOTUS takes up the PA case, it appears the Trump Team is going to let Ted Cruz present oral arguments. He's been in front of SCOTUS before as TX AG.

That's how the republican game should be played, Cruz probably doesn't like Trump and is a little swampy but knows way too much bad can happen if he troons out to Perdue or even worse, Romney levels. And he also knows he will be kicked out in Texas. That cocksucker John Cornyn is a RINO who got reelected and immediately is looking to do some amnesty deal, I hope the state has a recall remedy.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

I'm sorry I know we said we'd ignore the trolls but taking into account you've been engaging them every other comment like baitmunching fools I cannot believe you actually skipped this one:

Ketchup is a good condiment

What in the unholy fuck is this heresy?

 

[Random Internet Person]

Here's the problem with your absolute doomerism, you seem to think that people take things lying down very easily, and I'm not blaming you considering just how the Right acts every time they're opposed by the left. Here's the issue, the reason why right wingers don't oppose is not necessarily because they're cucks, it's because they make a calculated decision on what they have to lose vs what they can win. Why don't right wingers go against antifa? Because they realize that they can lose their jobs, their bank account, etc. It's just not worth it because they have something at stake that they're not willing to lose.

Take me for example. Even after this election I thankfully still have my job, I'm still saving to buy a house, I have a girlfriend that I can marry and start a family with, I have possessions that can entertain me: books, movies, games, comics, etc. At the end of the day, giving up my life is just not worth it and I'd venture out to guess that most people do that same calculation when they take risks. You seem to think that government can just exist even without the consent of the population. That is simply not true. Libya and Egypt both got rid of the American backed governments after the Arab Spring because the astroturfed ones were not truly willed in by the majority of the population.

Here's the thing: The Left can easily take away all those things in the names of making an example of Trump supporters. If they can push CRT and the 1619 Project in schools, they can just as easily force you to accept all the shit they want in the progressive utopia. Hell, if they could get away with it, they'd even hardwire and tinker with your brain to not get pissed off at all the shit that happened this summer when statues and memorials were torn down and vandalized left and right all over the country. As for government existing without the will of the people, Biden and Harris WAS ALWAYS STEP ONE TO FLUSH OUT ALL THE SHIT TRUMP DID. The next step is working to bring about progressive utopia that every leftist has talked about since the Obama Administration and the only complaint people would have is it's coming about soon enough. If the GA runoffs go to the Democrats, every pet project we've heard about this year if not earlier will happen, whether through executive order or through signing a bill into law.

Everybody always quotes 1984 as the dystopian novel and you seem to think we're heading in that direction for conservatives. However, you have to remind yourself that in that book, we mostly look at the world from Winston's perspective, who is himself a member of the Party. Only 15% of the population are members of the party and have to live by the strict rules of the Big Brother government. The majority of the population, the plebs, are written by Orwell as not really having changed much from the working class of Britain. They still enjoy the same things: soccer, drinking, partying, etc. They even have a life expectancy that was average for the Brits in 1945 when the book was written (60 years old). They didn't act against the government because the government wasn't constantly flicking a finger at their foreheads and annoying them the way they annoyed the Party members.

What I'm saying is that I have a future, which is why you won't see me take direct action against Antifa or the lefties. But in your world, they would come for my job, they would come for my home, they would turn my girlfriend into disgusting fat dangerhair, they would put me in prison for not going to a rally, and troon out my kids, they would force me to watch their propaganda like I have a telesreen in my home, and on top of that, they plan to take me to a gulag. If that future that you're dooming over comes to pass, then I have nothing lose anymore, and a lot of people probably are probably going to listen to that Boomerwaffen nutjob telling us to go bomb the judge that took everything from us.

So what you're saying is that like most things in life, most people won't move to fight the system until they're directly affected, and if you give people good entertainment, they'll be content with how the world is. And liberals are more tolerant of the pushes for diversity in everything from movies to comics. So all Hollywood has to do is just bring in people that can be put on a leash and gradually get people to accept the new normal, while people like AOC and Kathleen Kennedy are given their own things to keep them busy and let them play queen of the castle with their own adoring fanbase in a sandbox far away from the grown-ups.

This is what's coming. The only question is when are we going to see it.

 

[DeadFish]

Here's the problem with your absolute doomerism, you seem to think that people take things lying down very easily, and I'm not blaming you considering just how the Right acts every time they're opposed by the left. Here's the issue, the reason why right wingers don't oppose is not necessarily because they're cucks, it's because they make a calculated decision on what they have to lose vs what they can win. Why don't right wingers go against antifa? Because they realize that they can lose their jobs, their bank account, etc. It's just not worth it because they have something at stake that they're not willing to lose.

Take me for example. Even after this election I thankfully still have my job, I'm still saving to buy a house, I have a girlfriend that I can marry and start a family with, I have possessions that can entertain me: books, movies, games, comics, etc. At the end of the day, giving up my life is just not worth it and I'd venture out to guess that most people do that same calculation when they take risks. You seem to think that government can just exist even without the consent of the population. That is simply not true. Libya and Egypt both got rid of the American backed governments after the Arab Spring because the astroturfed ones were not truly willed in by the majority of the population.

Everybody always quotes 1984 as the dystopian novel and you seem to think we're heading in that direction for conservatives. However, you have to remind yourself that in that book, we mostly look at the world from Winston's perspective, who is himself a member of the Party. Only 15% of the population are members of the party and have to live by the strict rules of the Big Brother government. The majority of the population, the plebs, are written by Orwell as not really having changed much from the working class of Britain. They still enjoy the same things: soccer, drinking, partying, etc. They even have a life expectancy that was average for the Brits in 1945 when the book was written (60 years old). They didn't act against the government because the government wasn't constantly flicking a finger at their foreheads and annoying them the way they annoyed the Party members.

What I'm saying is that I have a future, which is why you won't see me take direct action against Antifa or the lefties. But in your world, they would come for my job, they would come for my home, they would turn my girlfriend into disgusting fat dangerhair, they would put me in prison for not going to a rally, and troon out my kids, they would force me to watch their propaganda like I have a telesreen in my home, and on top of that, they plan to take me to a gulag. If that future that you're dooming over comes to pass, then I have nothing lose anymore, and a lot of people probably are probably going to listen a little more closely to that Boomerwaffen nutjob telling us to go bomb the judge that took everything from us.

TL;DR. Stop dooming, we're not going into gulags.

Reason people are dooming is because of the 2020 riots. Blm/antifa burn peoples stuff down and dont get prosecuted. They are released.

A guy defends his life. He gets slamned by the media and gets a multitude of charges.

These people have gotten people fired.
Democrats are going on broadcast TV and talking about prosecuting trump voters and any one else that resists.

This is why people are dooming.

Tell me with the life you are building. Will you be able to keep it with the great reset Biden proposed?

 

[Dr J]

Cruz probably doesn't like Trump and is a little swampy

Yeah, that situation is a little odd. Because obviously they had a contentious primary race and Trump called him Lyin' Ted but now Lyin' Ted seems to be one of his fiercest allies.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Yeah, that situation is a little odd. Because obviously they had a contentious primary race and Trump called him Lyin' Ted but now Lyin' Ted seems to be one of his fiercest allies.

Cruz knows that helping Trump helps his political ambitions. ANd Trump is at the point where he'll take ANY help regardless of where it comes from.

Reason people are dooming is because of the 2020 riots. Blm/antifa burn peoples stuff down and dont get prosecuted. They are released.

A guy defends his life. He gets slamned by the media and gets a multitude of charges.

These people will try to get you fired.

Tell me with the life you are building. Will you be able to keep it with the great reset Biden proposed?

Pretty much. And then there's a slew of people willing to sell you out to save their own ass and/or for brownue points.

 

[SmugAutist]

Reason people are dooming is because of the 2020 riots. Blm/antifa burn peoples stuff down and dont get prosecuted. They are released.

A guy defends his life. He gets slamned by the media and gets a multitude of charges.

These people have gotten people fired.
Democrats are going on broadcast TV and talking about prosecuting trump voters and any one else that resists.

This is why people are dooming.

Tell me with the life you are building. Will you be able to keep it with the great reset Biden proposed?

And like I said at the end of that rant, the moment that happens is the moment I and many others end up joining the Boomerwaffen. I'd have nothing to lose.

 

[Dr J]

I dunno how anyone can look at the events of this year and look at how muh COVID has been used as a pretext to destroy people's lives, their jobs, their businesses, their freedoms, their civil liberties, their families, their homes and now their democracy and say 'Right wingers don't stand up because they have too much to lose'

If you don't stand up, you will lose everything

 

[The Wicked Mitch]

It’s going to be Jeb
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It goes to a contingent election and Congress chooses Jeb as a compromise

I propose a different path

 

[Random Internet Person]

I dunno how anyone can look at the events of this year and look at how muh COVID has been used as a pretext to destroy people's lives, their jobs, their businesses, their freedoms, their civil liberties, their families, their homes and now their democracy and say 'Right wingers don't stand up because they have too much to lose'

If you don't stand up, you will lose everything

It's very easy: They were distracted by the likes of Tiger King and The Mandalorian. Also, sports actually came back. And you have the people who think that staying home and under the covers was helping to make the world safer. They bought into "the new normal"

 

[GenericReviewerDraco]

I dunno how anyone can look at the events of this year and look at how muh COVID has been used as a pretext to destroy people's lives, their jobs, their businesses, their freedoms, their civil liberties, their families, their homes and now their democracy and say 'Right wingers don't stand up because they have too much to lose'

If you don't stand up, you will lose everything

The problem is standing up and not winning equals the same result, but more brutal. Just ask Hitler, as much as he was an edgy tard.

 

[DeadFish]

And like I said at the end of that rant, the moment that happens is the moment I and many others end up joining the Boomerwaffen. I'd have nothing to lose.

Yeah there is something to be said for being late to the party.
The opposition got it all together by time folks like you react.

People are freaking out for good reason.


The most optimistic solutions I can think of are not of the rose tinted glasses kind.

If things do get tough the best thing I can tell you do is dont despair. Look for the best in the worst and accept the best the situation can offer you.