2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Pennsylvania has responded.
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Whats the point in having a serious military anyway when your reputation is shit and you're occupied by American military bases anyway. Better put that into industry that gives you power in an otherway
  1. Not allowing Germany to have a military at all would be a redux of the Treaty of Versailles. We haven't had a full-blown Fourth Reich (if you don't count the EU) partly due to the Allies showing more clemency in victory the second time around.
  2. America can only do so much for other countries until they have to look out for themselves.
  3. Germany is a US client state, not a full-blown colony. US military presence there is more of a "we will help you if the Russians decide to roll up". You also have to give the Krauts a sense of autonomy.
 
"Conservatives have a high tolerance for nonsense, so they won't do anything"
"But what happens if this decision exhausts their tolerance for nonsense?"
"Well, they're too old to do anything even if their tolerance is exhausted."

Which is it?

This is fake, Pooh wouldn't give away his honey.
It's both; They have a high tolerance and by the time it might run out they are too old to be dangerous. Nothing mutually exclusive in either statement.
 
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So PA's defense is.

  • The SCOTUS isn't allowed to hear this
  • There's no case to hear
    • And if there is Texas doesn't have standing to bring it
    • And we already stole the election so it's a moot point
  • There's no actual violation
    • And especially not in the exact way we violated the constitution
    • And even if we did, Texas has no right to judge us
  • And Texas has no right to stop us
    • No really
    • We changed the law unconstitutionally therefore no one can complain because we did, in fact, change the law.
If this is the best they've got...
 
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So PA's defense is.

  • The SCOTUS isn't allowed to hear this
  • There's no case to hear
    • And if there is Texas doesn't have standing to bring it
    • And we already stole the election so it's a moot point
  • There's no actual violation
    • And especially not in the exact way we violated the constitution
    • And even if we did, Texas has no right to judge us
  • And Texas has no right to stop us
    • No really
    • We changed the law unconstitutionally therefore no one can complain because we did, in fact, change the law.
If this is the best they've got...
Don't worry. Laches will save them!
 
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So PA's defense is.

  • The SCOTUS isn't allowed to hear this
  • There's no case to hear
    • And if there is Texas doesn't have standing to bring it
    • And we already stole the election so it's a moot point
  • There's no actual violation
    • And especially not in the exact way we violated the constitution
    • And even if we did, Texas has no right to judge us
  • And Texas has no right to stop us
    • No really
    • We changed the law unconstitutionally therefore no one can complain because we did, in fact, change the law.
If this is the best they've got...
Texas still has a full right to complain, no matter what Pennsylvania says. You can’t just have some states following the election guidelines and then ones not following them and changing the outcome entirely. Their defense sucks. Not following the rules disenfranchises everyone and changing them very close to the election to evade the rules is like doping before a sporting event and being surprised you got caught. Seriously, we have higher standards for plagiarism than we do elections, and that’s scary.
 
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So PA's defense is.

  • The SCOTUS can't hear this
  • There's no case to hear
    • And if there is Texas doesn't have standing to bring it
    • And we already stole the election so it's a moot point
  • There's no actual violation
    • And especially not in the exact way we violated the constitution
    • And even if we did, Texas has no right to judge us
  • And Texas has no right to stop us
    • No really
    • We changed the law unconstitutionally therefore no one can complain because we did, in fact, change the law.
If this is the best they've got...
So not only do they ignore SCOTUS's orders, they file this "response" to them sounding like a whining child. It seems that SCOTUS needs to break out the belt.
 
dis gon b gud
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EDIT: Something interesting here: these are 20 states overall (not counting fucking Guam and Virgin Islands lol), and 20 states voted for Clinton in 2016, and these same states voted for Biden in 2020. However, one of these states, New Hampshire isn't listed- instead North Carolina is. It doesn't surprise me that NH would be one of the states to not enter something like this if there had to be one, but NC being here is a little surprising.
 

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Relationship status: It's complicated.

The EU has heavily briefed against the UK post-Brexit but I still think there's about a 50% chance they'll agree on a Canada style free trade agreement in the end. Albeit after spending months trying to get the UK to be bound by EU rules judged by EU courts with no say in either.


This has sadly turned out to be true.
Would you say Boris Johnson as a CINO is more in line with rather bland weak-sauce Tories like Edward 'piano is my only woman' Heath or John 'I like peas' Major, or a bog standard neo-lib like Blair?
 
Every state punching each other and meanwhile Ohio's like:




Dude... You really haven't seen european politics if you think half of that is true. Including the immigration part, despite the so-called shengen area there's been tons of lawsuits on the issue every fucking year, and let's not even get into the gibraltar situation because that's almost caused armed conflict more than once already. Hell last time they got blocaded and if negotiations keep breaking down it seems that's what's going down again despite having horrifying economic effects for both sides if done, and that shit's currently been put on the table despite both Gibraltar and Andalusia trying to avoid it because Johnson and Sanchez... Well Johnsoned and Sanchezed. Really we don't even have reasons to hate each other right now, (I mean Cadiz does but no one that actually matters has any) if anything Spain's pretty pissed at the EU so everyone's saying we should be cooperating, (Specially Cadiz ironically enough... We're a buncha softies.) but both countries got fucking idiots in power and apparently that's the decisive factor in the end nowadays!

And let's not even get into the balkans. If you think the routine slapfights of western europe are bad you have not seen the shit that goes down on the other side of the continent.

America's getting scary as fuck, that much is true, but don't think europe's any better. If anything, it's worse.
I was going log off today and catch a bus. Theres been a delay.

No I was asking within an American context how various things would be effected. If it was a true split like the last civil war then how would federal law enforcement be handled?

Im not as historically learned as some folks here. I do know some things. Privateers was a thing. People would go steal the others sides stuff and then sell it back in home territory.

Gutav then used European affairs as an example. The situations in either location are not the same.

So using European example to answer such a question about a 2nd American civil war isnt a very good answer. Squares and round holes I suppose
 
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