2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Smarty Pants]

The White Army in the Russian Civil War's biggest problem was that despite being more popular and more righteous than the tyrant Lenin and his Red thugs

Yeah, this is complete bullshit. The Tsar was hated by most of the country and rightly so.

You had old-school Tsarists, Orthodox Christians, supporters of the old Provisional Government, classical liberals, Muslims, Cossacks, even social democrats and Jews who realized Lenin and the Bolsheviks would be far worse than the old Tsarist regime.

Elites, basically. When you say "Orthodox Christians" and "Muslims" you're talking about clergy rather than average believers.

The Bolsheviks were a godsend to the Russian people who have been ruined by the Tsar's pants-on-head retarded foreign and domestic policies. Mass starvation was far more common under the Tsar than under the USSR in Russia, and the pointless entanglement in WWI that was the nail in the coffin for that literal cuckhold Nicholas.

The "massive rural support" for the Whites is a conservatard/russian shitlib fantasy.

Plus, Russian cities in the 1910's were more self-reliant than American cities in the 2010's. The only major infrastructure systems that were of concern were the railroads, which Lenin made sure to target.

It was Trotsky's idea, actually, and the also targeted the water supply, postal service and others. Lenin had more of a MAGAtard idea of a revolution where you just bum-rush Congress and you "take it over".

America has the issues of interstate highways, highly mechanized agriculture, three large power grids, and internet communications just to name a few things

Yeah, the two situations aren't analogous at all. Prior to the October revolution the Bolsheviks infiltrated key Russian infrastructure fairly easily and with very few people. It's a complete joke to think that you can do that in current year USA, but it's not as stupid as counting which side has the most guns.

Right now, it's the Dems who are stuck in the Whites' position of being too internally divided with multiple factions squabbling amongst themselves while the Right is far more unified for the time being, simply due to the threat of the Woke Left and their zealotry

The Dems AND the Republicans are the Whites. There are no Reds. The left is much more united than the Right is because the so-called dissidents in the Democrat Party always, without exception, toe the line when push comes to shove. There is exactly no internal division within the Left in this situation - everyone from AOC to Chuck Schumer are on board with the fact that Biden is the legitimate president. Your Tulsis, Bernies and media figures like Jimmy Dore and his lefty journo friends are in fundamental agreement that there is no foul play worth mentioning.

It's not even that all of these internal dissidents are "in on it" (and I believe some like Bernie, Tulsi and AOC actually are), but their ideological frame doesn't really allow them to go against them in situations like this.

On the other hand, we have RINO's, which from what I can tell based on who's speaking up for Trump and who is either staying put or actively opposing his efforts, make up about 20-30% of the GOP - at least.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Bombs away
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I wonder if they're gonna hire a stripper to pretend to be a witness like Rudy did

 

[Reisen Storm]

But not the Idaho AG.

“Idaho is a sovereign state and should be free to govern itself without interference from any other state. Likewise, Idaho should respect the sovereignty of its sister states.”

His words, not mine.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Yeah the riots shown they will turn on each other. White antifa against black. Black versus Hispanic. The Asians are going get looted. The rich white city yuppies are going get the south Africa treatment.

What a mess.

Exactly. Not only will they have to deal with that again but also the republicans in their cities.

It’s not even going to be a race thing I don’t think. It will be ellites vs not.

I would not bet on the elites.

 

[DeadFish]

Is this the race war that’s been prophesied for ages?

Dont know. I do know the inner city whites have others do the work for them. If supplies (like food) are disrupted or the money becomes worthless. Well the only thing these white yuppies had to lord ovee their pets is now gone.

They dont wanna work.
They dont wanna do the fighting for themselves.
A lot of them dont have practical skills.

What they will have is all the good loot in their well maintained neighborhoods. With those pretty manicured lawns.

So you got a bunch of softies who wont do things for thenselves directly who own nice things....

Surrounded by non whites who lived rough lives.

Guess whose going punk on who?

Exactly. Not only will they have to deal with that again but also the republicans in their cities.

It’s not even going to be a race thing I don’t think. It will be ellites vs not.

I would not bet on the elites.

There was a documentary about how some rich guy bought an old cold war missile silo. He turned it into a survival bunker.

Some commenter had a link to a study featured on some survival experts website.

The study stated what would most likely happen is the rich missile silos tenants will get murdered by their security detail.

Once money becomes worthless is when these elite fucks cease having control over anyone that works for them.

If you can help me find the study and docmentary let me know.

 

[Garm]

Here's a Map just in case hostilities breaks out.

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Thing about this map is that blue states don't have a solid way of linking up. Also would have to import most of their food.

And a more realistic map would just have dots for the Democratic cities instead of the entire geographic area.

So this might end up 24 republican states vs 26 democrat/contested states.
Wild. Really a split right down party lines like this is poisonous from the get go. Country could balkanize next year.

Which isn't to say it will. But... I mean, how the fuck can the country come back from this? Trump won't heal any wounds, and neither will Biden; and neither will anyone in 2024. This is only going to get worse.

I think a lower class throw down which bloodies both sides into realizing the elites are the ones fucking us over would be a good thing.

Then again I think Dune has a point that civilizations need turmoil and strife to "stir the pot." Right now our society is stratified. We are all split into our own bubbles. Sooner people's experiences challenge what they believe, the better off we will be.

I'll take those optimistic stickers now.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Yeah, this is complete bullshit. The Tsar was hated by most of the country and rightly so.

The Whites weren't entirely - or even majority - Tsarist, though. In fact, a lot of Whites fought initially on the side of the revolutionaries during the initial Russian Revolution.
I don't know how true it is per-se, because its all hypothetical "what if" speculation, but some claim the Romanovs would have been executed or exiled even in the event of a White victory over the Reds.

Its similar to the Nicaraguan Civil War; the "Contras" were only a minority of Somoza's former soldiers (many of whom hated their former boss anyways); they were an umbrella movement of former soldiers, peasant rebels, mulatto/indigenous tribes, drug smugglers and even leftist/socialists who didn't want to suck Castro & KGB/GRU dick - most of whom had fought or at least tacitly supported the prior revolution against Somoza.

 

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Lol retard Lin Wood had to get in there, filed an amicus brief with all the other tards.

http://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22O155/163470/20201210212807008_Motion%20for%20Leave%20to%20File%20Amici%20Curiae%20with%20Brief%20and%20Appx%20A%20attached.pdf

He included his entire bullshit case that got rejected by the 11th Circuit. I am not sure what he means by this.

He failed to serve everyone involved, and he also didn't include his certification of word count as a separate document, as is the requirement for the e-filing system for those not filing in forma pauperis (presumably Wood is not yet a penniless prison inmate).

 

[Syaoran Li]

Yeah, this is complete bullshit. The Tsar was hated by most of the country and rightly so.

Elites, basically. When you say "Orthodox Christians" and "Muslims" you're talking about clergy rather than average believers.

The Bolsheviks were a godsend to the Russian people who have been ruined by the Tsar's pants-on-head retarded foreign and domestic policies. Mass starvation was far more common under the Tsar than under the USSR in Russia, and the pointless entanglement in WWI that was the nail in the coffin for that literal cuckhold Nicholas.

The "massive rural support" for the Whites is a conservatard/russian shitlib fantasy.

It was Trotsky's idea, actually, and the also targeted the water supply, postal service and others. Lenin had more of a MAGAtard idea of a revolution where you just bum-rush Congress and you "take it over".

Yeah, the two situations aren't analogous at all. Prior to the October revolution the Bolsheviks infiltrated key Russian infrastructure fairly easily and with very few people. It's a complete joke to think that you can do that in current year USA, but it's not as stupid as counting which side has the most guns.

The Dems AND the Republicans are the Whites. There are no Reds. The left is much more united than the Right is because the so-called dissidents in the Democrat Party always, without exception, toe the line when push comes to shove. There is exactly no internal division within the Left in this situation - everyone from AOC to Chuck Schumer are on board with the fact that Biden is the legitimate president. Your Tulsis, Bernies and media figures like Jimmy Dore and his lefty journo friends are in fundamental agreement that there is no foul play worth mentioning.

It's not even that all of these internal dissidents are "in on it" (and I believe some like Bernie, Tulsi and AOC actually are), but their ideological frame doesn't really allow them to go against them in situations like this.

On the other hand, we have RINO's, which from what I can tell based on who's speaking up for Trump and who is either staying put or actively opposing his efforts, make up about 20-30% of the GOP - at least.

OK Bolshevik

Your post can best be summed up as "TLDR - Leninist Hoes Mad"

Lenin was a tyrant and a mass murderer who was worse than the Tsars in every objective way, as low of a bar as that is to clear, Lenin somehow managed it. The only people worse than him were Trotsky and Stalin

Contrary to popular revisionist historiography, Stalin was pretty much just continuing what Lenin started and if Lenin hadn't died of syphilis, his regime would've looked a lot like Stalin but literally with blackjack and hookers

Also, as I and @Fanatical Pragmatist already pointed out, the Whites weren't exclusively Tsarist and in fact, the Tsarists were a minority within the Whites. The Whites were the majority and were a populist big tent movement of anyone who wasn't a Bolshevik or an anarchist.

A lot of the Whites opposed the Tsar in the February Revolution but also saw Lenin for the snake in the grass and tyrant he inevitably was

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Thing about this map is that blue states don't have a solid way of linking up. Also would have to import most of their food.

And a more realistic map would just have dots for the Democratic cities instead of the entire geographic area.

To be fair, a lot of distribution centers are in urban areas, as are seaports & airports.
Cities - at least coastal cities - certainlty have no shortage of ability to resupply.

 

[Reisen Storm]

Cities - at least coastal cities - certainlty have no shortage of ability to resupply.

They need money, and in the event of a Second American Civil War, the USD is going to plummet.

 

[HumanHive]

Thing about this map is that blue states don't have a solid way of linking up. Also would have to import most of their food.

And a more realistic map would just have dots for the Democratic cities instead of the entire geographic area.

I think a lower class throw down which bloodies both sides into realizing the elites are the ones fucking us over would be a good thing.

Then again I think Dune has a point that civilizations need turmoil and strife to "stir the pot." Right now our society is stratified. We are all split into our own bubbles. Sooner people's experiences challenge what they believe, the better off we will be.

I'll take those optimistic stickers now.

The problem is Marxism. Not its ideas, but its “revolutionary” nature. Which is to say that it is an ideology that wishes to spread and replace all others.
I’m a bit neologistic in this regard, but I base it on the difference between the American Revolution and the French Revolution. The American Revolution was a revolution in one country; a conflict that could start and stop in the borders of one nation with little to no desire to move forward to others (like Canada), while the French wished to spread their revolution to the whole of Europe. So the conflict ceases to be about real issues that can be compromised or bargained over; but instead a conflict about the ideology and the ideology alone. Marxism and Revolutionary Islam all follow this model.

So while Antifa and ancaps might both hate the corporate welfare states, there can be no compromise because one wants “revolution in all countries” and the the other just wants revolution in one country and then to be left alone. This is a divide that cannot be bridged.

 

[DeadFish]

They need money, and in the event of a Second American Civil War, the USD is going to plummet.

that depends if said plummet hurts woke capitals foreign support.

They have the most foreign backers. If the dollar collapsing doesnt hurt their ability to send supplies. That would make things interesting

 

[Dr J]

Lenin was a tyrant and a mass murderer who was worse than the Tsars in every objective way, as low of a bar as that is to clear, Lenin somehow managed it. The only people worse than him were Trotsky and Stalin

He really wasn't, actually. In fact, a surprising thing about the October Revolution is just how much continuity there was between the Bolshevik and Tsarist regimes. They even called Lenin the Red Tsar

Lenin hadn't died of syphilis

He didn't die of syphilis. His death is more easily attributable to the fact that he was shot four times and refused to go to a hospital

 

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There is a reason the Dems wargamed this months back...

Lol, I doubt anyone anticipated that Trump would recruit a bunch of insane Melinda Leigh Scott-tier spergs to file a bunch of lolsuits that had no hope of ever succeeding to convince his stupid supporters to give him and the RNC hundreds of millions of dollars.

I bet they gamed out plenty of shit that would never happen, like Trump attempting to use the military to retain power after losing. But not Trump just pretending he didn't lose, so he could defraud his supporters, before leaving quietly to start his internet TV station. Truly, one of the most impressively shameless conmen of all time.

I’m a bit neologistic in this regard, but I base it on the difference between the American Revolution and the French Revolution. The American Revolution was a revolution in one country...

Ah, so you stan Stalin then? Pleased to meet you.

 

[Cypher]

IT'S OVER
>inb4 Hillary 2016 Newsweek

 

[Syaoran Li]

He really wasn't, actually. In fact, a surprising thing about the October Revolution is just how much continuity there was between the Bolshevik and Tsarist regimes. They even called Lenin the Red Tsar

He didn't die of syphilis. His death is more easily attributable to the fact that he was shot four times and refused to go to a hospital

Leninist Hoes Still Mad

He died of syphilis, albeit indirectly. His official cause of death was a stroke, and it was likely aggravated due to his syphilitic brain. Lenin was a notorious whoremonger.

 

[Superman93's Bitch]

IT'S OVER
>inb4 Hillary 2016 Newsweek

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They put both of them on there? They aren't even being discreet at this point. Like, TIME is a tabloid at this point and I'm not even mad Biden is on there, whatever.

But BOTH? How can you look at this and NOT get they are up to?

 

[spiritofamermaid]

Looks like Idaho and Alaska are putting their hat in the ring. Didn't Arizona join earlier?

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Now we just wait for Wyoming, Kentucky, and New Hampshire and we'll have all 50 states and 2 territories.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

Imagine hating trump so much that you have to steal an election and cause a second Civil War....this wont age well 50 years from now.