Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[The Grimace]

Well, since the FDA approved the vaccine and its being produced as distributed as we speak, what will (((their))) next big cope be? They're running out of options to demoralize people.

 

[Return of the Freaker]

Well, since the FDA approved the vaccine and its being produced as distributed as we speak, what will (((their))) next big cope be? They're running out of options to demoralize people.

They'll present serious reactions as "covid-21" and anybody who says it's from the vaccine is a conspiracy theorist. After all, the Settled Science™ says that all vaccines are 100% safe and have never caused harm to anyone.

 

[Quijibo69]

Well, since the FDA approved the vaccine and its being produced as distributed as we speak, what will (((their))) next big cope be? They're running out of options to demoralize people.

It's all a part of agenda 21 and next year is 2021.... DUN DUN DUUUUNNNNNN!!!1112

 

[Blissed]

I love that the USA is reduced to trying to bully people into taking a vaccine that was admittedly a rush job.

 

[Smug Cat]

Two British nurses with a history of anaphylaxis had severe allergic reactions to the Pfizer coof vaccine. The media is right there to tell you do not worry, citizen, still get the vaccine even if you have a history of anaphylaxis too.
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They didn't test it on people with a history of anaphylaxis.
Yeah guys trust The Science™
This isn't a rush job at all. Super thorough testing. Safe and effective. Except you might become infertile or have your throat close up right after you get it and die or whatever. But trust The Science™*
*The Science™ is what authorities tell you. Absolutely no critical thinking is to be employed in evaluation of The Science™. The Science™ is a registered trademark of Dr. Fauci et al

 

[Vault Boy]

I love that the USA is reduced to trying to bully people into taking a vaccine that was admittedly a rush job.

I've become deeply disappointed in my country this year, for the overreaction to Corona and recent events.

I'm wary of the path this country is on, what with the precedence the lockdowns have set and SCOTUS being cowards...

 

[Lensherr]

thats not gonna happen/bring out anything usefull... cant find evidence that savages, nigger and mexicans are just not as adapted to cold like illnesses.

mexico has a bit less cases than germany but 6 times the deaths...
germany should have much more deaths based on the average age being alot higher.

People are too afraid to admit it, but I think that it’s possible that racial/ethnic demographics have an effect on the spread/deadliness of the virus. In particular, the three that you mentioned are generally less healthy overall than whites and Asians, so that automatically puts them at great risk for infection and death.

 

[Standardized Profile]

Yeah, this news changes nothing for me personally. Dr. Mengele and co. can test this mRNA shit on some other rube.

There's actually a very high chance of getting a fever or a sore arm, if you look at the numbers. You probably meant to say something about the more severe side effect possibilities, the incidence of which are not well known because this shit has had less than the bare minimum of testing. I would happily volunteer to be outright infected by a doctor with the real coronavirus before getting this shot.

Fever: 1-4% with the first dose, 11-16% with the second dose. Lasted 1-2 days. Heavily dependent on age.

Sore arm: "Muscle pain" is also dependent on age. 14-21% with the first dose, 29-37% with the second dose. (NEJM)

These are pretty trifling side effects. Vaccine recipients will very probably not get a fever, and while muscle pain is a role of the dice, who cares? Compared to the effects of actually getting COVID, this is nothing. "Oh no, I got an ouchie and felt bad for 24 hours, I'd rather spend a week in bed struggling to get oxygen." People's risk assessment is fucked, as usual.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/DCSnIcvnQBfJ/

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"Possible adverse event outcomes"
>Stroke
>Anaphylaxis
>Autoimmune Disease
>Death

Have you never seen pharmaceutical marketing before? Here's the side effects for Advil:

• Hives
• facial swelling
• asthma (wheezing)
• shock
• skin reddening
• rash
• blisters
• severe stomach bleeding
• heart attack
• stroke

Hell, the idea of pandemic control via trying to artificially induce herd immunity hasn't even been tried before.

Smallpox and polio would like a word with you. But you can't talk to smallpox because it's extinct and you have to go to Afghanistan or Pakistan to talk to polio.

Two British nurses with a history of anaphylaxis had severe allergic reactions to the Pfizer coof vaccine.

They were using it off label or the nurses didn't disclose their history. The UK does not recommend the vaccine for people with a history of anaphylaxis. (MHRA)

 

[Smug Cat]

Fever: 1-4% with the first dose, 11-16% with the second dose. Lasted 1-2 days. Heavily dependent on age.

Sore arm: "Muscle pain" is also dependent on age. 14-21% with the first dose, 29-37% with the second dose. (NEJM)

These are pretty trifling side effects. Vaccine recipients will very probably not get a fever, and while muscle pain is a role of the dice, who cares? Compared to the effects of actually getting COVID, this is nothing. "Oh no, I got an ouchie and felt bad for 24 hours, I'd rather spend a week in bed struggling to get oxygen." People's risk assessment is fucked, as usual.

Mein neger. The rate of mild-but-unpleasant adverse effects is incredibly high for a vaccine. From the article I linked:

When reading data made available by Pfizer, La Pitié-Salpêtrière hospital epidemiologic unit head started to worry. “There may be a problem in the Pfizer vaccine”, Caumes thinks. “The rate of adverse effects is exceptionally high. There are more side effects in young people than elderly people, and even more after the second dose than the first one”. Data from the Pfizer laboratory report many side effects. “15.8% of people aged 18-55 have had a 38°C+ [fever] within the seven days following the second injection. And 45% of them had to take medicine against fever or pain. 55% of people got a headache, 62% fatigue” professor Caumes lists to Le Parisien.

Your own linked study bears out those numbers. Those are obscenely high rates of short-term adverse events for a vaccine and any longer-term effects we have absolutely no idea about. They didn't even do the short-term testing properly if they didn't include people with a history of anaphylaxis in their studies.

Look, I get the desire to think this vaccine is the magical holy grail that will fix everything with no downsides. But really wanting it to be that way won't make it true. Don't be retarded.

They were using it off label or the nurses didn't disclose their history. The UK does not recommend the vaccine for people with a history of anaphylaxis. (MHRA)

They made that recommendation specifically because of these two nurses you dumbass. Are you even following the basics of the news about this?

 

[Ruin]

Well, since the FDA approved the vaccine and its being produced as distributed as we speak, what will (((their))) next big cope be? They're running out of options to demoralize people.

My theory is the next media line will be. "The vaccine only prevents you from being infected it doesn't prevent you from being an asymptomatic spreader therfore masks and lockdowns must continue forever."

Screenshot this post.

 

[Product Placement]

My theory is the next media line will be. "The vaccine only prevents you from being infected it doesn't prevent you from being an asymptomatic spreader therfore masks and lockdowns must continue forever."

Screenshot this post.

You have some reading up to do, they have never said the vax stops you from getting and spreading covid, just stops it from being deadly if you do get it if you are in the 95% that it works for,

 

[Vault Boy]

My theory is the next media line will be. "The vaccine only prevents you from being infected it doesn't prevent you from being an asymptomatic spreader therfore masks and lockdowns must continue forever."

Screenshot this post.

But if just about everyone gets vaccinated, shouldn't that be a moot point? That's on top of Corona becoming less lethal.

I'm sure "experts" will gnash their teeth over Corona never going extinct, but it's not our fault they don't understand the basics of economics and acting like a Human. I question how "safe" we'll really be if our reaction to Corona causes an economic depression, and I fear the ramifications of trying to keep a social species isolated from each other for so long.

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

I've been exploring the city where I live now since school is over for the semester. I went to a T J Maxx for the first time a few days ago, and went back yesterday. My plan was foiled however because there was a line outside to get in. This is the only time since all this started I've seen a business have to form a line due to maximum capacity being reached.

 

[vanilla_pepsi_head]

Smallpox and polio would like a word with you. But you can't talk to smallpox because it's extinct and you have to go to Afghanistan or Pakistan to talk to polio.

Yeah sorry I expressed myself badly, I know there have been successful mass vaccination campaigns. I believe those were epidemics and not pandemics, which arise and spread more quickly. Thing was, old world illnesses like smallpox or polio came in waves over the course of many years until the introduction of a vaccine, it took at least several years to create a good one, and that was for a disease that had extremely high kill rates or left people crippled and wiped out entire populations. Covid is... not doing that. The risk/reward of a vaccine that's been rushed out the door to force herd immunity (that might not even work) for what amounts to an annoying week of coofing for most people is not even comparable. Give it to old people sure, but trying to force it on literally everyone? I think there should be more caution, that's all.

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

9/11 didn't shut down everyday life, aside from planes being grounded in the immediate aftermath, and mail taking longer to ship for awhile. Compared to 2020, 2001 seems like a paradise.

Also can you imagine the insane shitshow had 9/11 had happened in Current Year with "social" media and social "justice"?

Honestly I wanna say it wouldn't be much different, and maybe the security measures that followed wouldn't be a thing because people would be too busy crying about the "poor innocent Muslims" and screaming that "Christian terrorists exist too."

 

[JoseRaulChupacabra]

Smallpox and polio would like a word with you. But you can't talk to smallpox because it's extinct and you have to go to Afghanistan or Pakistan to talk to polio.

IIRC, the only reason those were ever successful is because those pathogens are human exclusives.

Chinamen will continue eating batsoup or whatever the fuck TCM says is healthy and unleash Corona Chan's less sugoi but more iroppoi sister on this world.

 

[DamageJoy]

I think the mental divide between pro and anti coof believers will cause more damage than the virus itself.
It's really a religious debate. I find it cute that one half of the population would jump down the well, just to own the other side.

 

[Tookie]

mexico has a bit less cases than germany but 6 times the deaths...
germany should have much more deaths based on the average age being alot higher.

Germany has much more comprehensive testing than Mexico so they have a clearer picture of how many are actually infected. The Mexican federal government has their own definition of a "case" which is consistently 2-3 times lower than what individual state health authorities report. On top of that, their testing sucks so even the state numbers are grabbing a fraction of what somewhere like Germany reports. Also remember that a German doctor is less likely to mangle and kill a sick patient during the course of treatment than a random quack in a Latin American country.

 

[Hollywood Hitler]

I think the mental divide between pro and anti coof believers will cause more damage than the virus itself.
It's really a religious debate. I find it cute that one half of the population would jump down the well, just to own the other side.

Well, The Science (tm) has become a religion. Notice how people jump down your throat for questioning the "experts"? The media are praising these scientists as if they're saints.

 

[DamageJoy]

Well, The Science (tm) has become a religion. Notice how people jump down your throat for questioning the "experts"? The media are praising these scientists as if they're saints.

The best is:
On one hand: Authority is bad, fuck the police. On the other hand: act like you are living in Racoon city and trust authority.

But yeah, the people who always talk about being independent minded will parrot anything a labcoat or official say, because that is the high status thing to do.