Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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DamageJoy said:
The best is:
On one hand: Authority is bad, fuck the police. On the other hand: act like you are living in Racoon city and trust authority.

But yeah, the people who always talk about being independent minded will parrot anything a labcoat or official say, because that is the high status thing to do.
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It's funny, because if you put on a lab coat you can probably boss other people around, and they'd fucking do it.
 
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SojuDrnkr said:
Well, The Science (tm) has become a religion. Notice how people jump down your throat for questioning the "experts"? The media are praising these scientists as if they're saints.
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It's infuriating because constant questioning and criticism is the cornerstone of scientific inquiry. Telling someone they can't "question the experts" or they have to "trust the science" is unscientific in the extreme. But people who say that don't actually care about science, they care about the aesthetics of science. They care about having something they can beat someone else over the head with and claim that they are objectively true and good and right and anyone who disagrees is stupid and subhuman.

it rly butters my biscuit i tell u huwat
 
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Smug Cat said:
It's infuriating because constant questioning and criticism is the cornerstone of scientific inquiry. Telling someone they can't "question the experts" or they have to "trust the science" is unscientific in the extreme. But people who say that don't actually care about science, they care about the aesthetics of science. They care about having something they can beat someone else over the head with and claim that they are objectively true and good and right and anyone who disagrees is stupid and subhuman.

it rly butters my biscuit i tell u huwat
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It's gotten to the point where if I had a choice to take the advice from Dr. Fauci or a Nazi scientist, I would trust the Nazi scientist. At least the Nazi is less of a fascist, and would approach this virus like an actual scientist, which would be along the lines of: "okay, this virus is airborne and has spread all over the world, so there's absolutely nothing you can do to contain it. But what we can do is treat the symptoms and send you home. Don't go out or meet with people until you feel better."

No paper or cloth talisman, no putting people out of work so that they can't support their families, no cancelling Christmas. If you asked a scientist 10 years ago what would they do in this situation, they'd probably tell you the same thing the hypothetical Nazi would have, or something similar. But that was before science became a religion.
 
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Lensherr said:
People are too afraid to admit it, but I think that it’s possible that racial/ethnic demographics have an effect on the spread/deadliness of the virus. In particular, the three that you mentioned are generally less healthy overall than whites and Asians, so that automatically puts them at great risk for infection and death.
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but they are younger on average. the baseline average age of death for white people in germany in about 80.

SojuDrnkr said:
It's gotten to the point where if I had a choice to take the advice from Dr. Fauci or a Nazi scientist, I would trust the Nazi scientist. At least the Nazi is less of a fascist, and would approach this virus like an actual scientist, which would be along the lines of: "okay, this virus is airborne and has spread all over the world, so there's absolutely nothing you can do to contain it. But what we can do is treat the symptoms and send you home. Don't go out or meet with people until you feel better."
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You can say what you want, but Nazi scientists got their shit done. but to be fair, they would have send word to the Japanese to kill all the chinks to stop the infection.
 
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Vault Boy said:
But if just about everyone gets vaccinated, shouldn't that be a moot point? That's on top of Corona becoming less lethal.

I'm sure "experts" will gnash their teeth over Corona never going extinct, but it's not our fault they don't understand the basics of economics and acting like a Human. I question how "safe" we'll really be if our reaction to Corona causes an economic depression, and I fear the ramifications of trying to keep a social species isolated from each other for so long.
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We already see the ramifications of it. Lots of suicide and depression and stress. The greatest chimpout ever seen in the US. The Weimar Republic LARP we've had for the past four years getting more and more violent with black-shirted retards and flag-waving retards shooting each other. I'm just amazed there hasn't been many mass shootings given the decline in mental health. There's plenty of places to find crowds of people to shoot at, even in states with the most totalitarian governors and mayors there's enough crowds of people having their Weimar Republic LARP.

But none of that shit matters because the only thing that matters is controlling a disease with a 99.8% survival rate.
ToroidalBoat said:
As said, it's the cult of scientism.

I heard there was this one article even claiming that non-scientists shoudln't ev en do their own research (and just trust the "experts"). I guess the "appeal to authority" logical fallacy isn't taught anymore - along with all the others.
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Of course it isn't. Because then you'd start to question everything and realize that "hey, just because CNN says they're expert, professional journalists doesn't mean they're always right" or "maybe those anonymous intelligence sources are wrong." The modern liberal/progressive mindset is entirely centered around appeals to authority. The MSM is right because they're experts at journalism. Scientists are right because they're experts at science. If you could be just as right than them, then you'd have their job. So shut up and listen to what they say, and only what they say, don't listen to these other journalists (fake news) or scientists (pseudoscience). And definitely don't read the data and sources for yourself and come to your own conclusion, let the experts interpret that for you.
 
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ToroidalBoat said:
As said, it's the cult of scientism.

I heard there was this one article even claiming that non-scientists shoudln't ev en do their own research (and just trust the "experts"). I guess the "appeal to authority" logical fallacy isn't taught anymore - along with all the others.
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This is the Wikipedia generation. Their standards doesn't allow individual research, things don't exist if a newspaper didn't mention it first.
Fitting.
 
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ToroidalBoat said:
One person compared it to how the Middle Ages Catholic Church forbade reading the Bible for oneself and drawing one's own conclusions - only official clergy could do that sort of thing.

[something about not studying history and repeating it]
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Aka, the modus operandi of pseudo-intellectual, partisan charlatans like Vaush.
 
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One person compared it to how the Middle Ages Catholic Church forbade reading the Bible for oneself and drawing one's own conclusions - only official clergy could do that sort of thing.

[something about not studying history and repeating it]
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This is a byproduct of our complex society. There are a ton of things that are basically arbitrary and magic that experts need to give us opinions about. There are so many things that people just roll with because it's what everybody does.

It wouldn't be so annoying if the System didn't mention everything how everybody is a free thinker and totally came to their own conclusions instead of just being tricked by social engineering and marketing. Of course we are the civilization that beats it's chest about personal freedom for sex stuff and being ugly while bureaucrat gang gets to regulate everything. Even who you can visit in your own free time. lol
 
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Holy shit reddit is so fucking big brained about this whole thing. I've been reading random subreddits out of boredom and all these galaxy brains are convinced "capitalism" is the reason they've had a shitty 2020 financially.

Yea it's capitalism and not the government nuking the economy over a slightly more dangerous flu.
 
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I figured out how to fix Corona overages
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The latest bullshit from the county in which I live. Fuck Moreno, the evil sack of shit. Have to go to hospital (CHOMP) tomorrow for test. Will let you know how it goes. Everyone knows how I feel about getting this test. Am already pretty fucking disgusted.

Going to wear my "this mask is as useless as our governor" mask to medical appointment and then the hospital. Bet they're going to love that to death. 🖕 For any of those assholes who say anything about the mask.

BREAKING NEWS FROM THE CARMEL PINE CONE

December 13, 2020, 2:00 p.m.


ICU CAPACITY STAYS WITHIN GOVERNOR'S LIMITS BUT COUNTY SHUTDOWN BEGINS TONIGHT ANYWAY

While Monterey County prepares for the latest shutdown order to go into effect at 10 p.m. tonight, limiting restaurants to takeout only, closing other businesses entirely and causing unknown numbers of layoffs, the latest data on ICU capacity at hospitals in Monterey County and in the Greater Bay Area show that Gov. Gavin Newsom's 15 percent threshold is still being met, which means today's shutdown would not be happening if health officer Dr. Ed Moreno hadn't decided earlier this week to act on his own.

According to the latest data from the California Department of Public Health, Monterey County has 18 unoccupied ICU beds among its four hospitals, while ICU availability in the Greater Bay Area region, of which Monterey County is a part, stands at 17.6 percent.

Three of the state's regions are below Newsom's 15 percent requirement and have been forced by the state to comply with the shutdown order. One of those regions, the San Joaquin Valley, has zero ICU availability, the CDPH said.

Our situation is much better, especially where hospital capacity is concerned. On Thursday, CHOMP said it had eight Covid-19 patients in its ICU, but that only four additional beds were being used to treat patients with other serious illnesses or injuries, which meant eight of the hospital's 20 ICU beds were empty. CHOMP also says it could increase ICU capacity to more than 20 if the need arose.

Those numbers are even more encouraging when you consider this week's data on coronavirus cases in the Peninsula. During the week, there were 1,286 new infections detected among Monterey County residents. Of those, 946 were in Salinas and the Salinas Valley, while 159 were in the Monterey Peninsula: 68 in Seaside, 44 in Marina, 29 in Monterey, six in Carmel area (93923), four each in Pacific Grove and Big Sur, two in Carmel Valley, one in Pebble Beach and none in Carmel-by-the-Sea. These numbers are totals over the past seven days.

Also on the good news front, Pfizer began shipping its newly approved coronavirus vaccine from a facility in Michigan this morning. We will probably have an update tomorrow about when the first doses will reach Monterey County.

Meanwhile, despite the rainy Sunday morning, locals and tourists have been bravely trying to enjoy a last restaurant meal before the shutdown goes into effect.

"It was pouring rain at 9:30 this morning, and one lady literally had a river running over her shoes and either didn’t know or care," reports Heidi Short of Coldwell Banker Realty, who provided a photo of the aquarium-like panorama outside her office on Ocean Avenue.

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If you're thinking of heading out for dinner, the good news is that the rain is supposed to end by this evening.

To see the most up-to-date charts and tables from the county health department, click here. Below, you can also find the updated versions of our charts showing coronavirus infections countywide and in the Monterey Peninsula, along with the data for hospitalizations and our chart breaking down Monterey County's coronavirus cases and infection rates by zip code. Check these charts and tables for the latest data on coronavirus cases in your community.
 
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