Insurrection 2021

What's going to happen on January 6th?

  • TRUMP JUNTA GOVERNMENT

    Votes: 40 10.1%

  • CHICOM BIDEN ROUNDUP

    Votes: 18 4.5%

  • BOOMERS STANDING AROUND IN Q MERCH ACCOMPLISHING NOTHING

    Votes: 340 85.4%
  • Total voters
    398
  • Poll closed .
King's Gambit Accepted said:
At this point, there's no evidence of even 10,000 fraudulent votes, which is around Biden's smallest margin in any state.
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I'd say that's debatable, and the actions of those who could just hand over the evidence and let it get proven one way or the other isn't inspiring confidence that it doesn't exist.

Edit: I also have to ask. If a vote is cast that was cast through a method that violated the U.S. constitution is that a fraudulent vote? If the answer is yes, I'd say there is certainly proof then.
Prester John said:
Okay, then we live in a country where 6.25 million more votes were cast for Biden.
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This is an extreme example, but lets just say this. Just one vote cast in just enough states to give Trump the 270, which is like 28 states or something. And every person in every other state could vote against him. Trump would still win even if it was 28 votes to 90 million votes. That 6.25 doesn't mean anything. That's not how the process functions.
 
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BHWuser said:
I'd say that's debatable, and the actions of those who could just hand over the evidence and let it get proven one way or the other isn't inspiring confidence that it doesn't exist.

This is an extreme example, but lets just say this. Just one vote cast in just enough states to give Trump the 270, which is like 28 states or something. And every person in every other state could vote against him. Trump would still win even if it was 28 votes to 90 million votes. That 6.25 doesn't mean anything. That's not how the process functions.
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Yes, but in previous cases where the winner of the Electoral College didn't win the popular vote, the margins were much closer. Biden's margin was sufficient that Trump would have needed to pull a royal flush, and the fact that he didn't does not suggest to me that there was widespread fraud.
 
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Prester John said:
Yes, but in previous cases where the winner of the Electoral College didn't win the popular vote, the margins were much closer. Biden's margin was sufficient that Trump would have needed to pull a royal flush, and the fact that he didn't does not suggest to me that there was widespread fraud.
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What I think is most important, right now. Let us just say there was zero fraud. However, there is so little transparency and so many violations of protocol and procedure that undoubtedly happened, that something still needs to be done. Those rules and regulations exist for a reason, and that's to ensure fairness and accuracy. So even if there is no fraud whatsoever, the fact we have these problems, and there have been zero consequences for them guarantees fraud in the future because now they know they can get away with it because there is no reliable oversight.
 
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BHWuser said:
I'd say that's debatable, and the actions of those who could just hand over the evidence and let it get proven one way or the other isn't inspiring confidence that it doesn't exist.
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What specific evidence isn't being handed over? There's been multiple recounts, including by hand. All of the swing states back up electronic votes with paper ballots.

The only case of voter fraud that I recall being confirmed this election was a dude in Pennsylvania who cast a vote for Trump by his dead mother.

Even in 2016, Trump only got 46 percent of the electorate. This year, 47 percent. He's never been super popular. He has really devoted supporters but they've never been a majority. Biden may be a terrible candidate but his winning isn't all that surprising.

While it may have made a great story, I don't think Mitch McConnell, Mike Pompeo, Bill Barr, Fox News, Republicans in GA, PA, WI, NV and AZ all teamed up with a dead Venezuelan communist to fill out ballots for Biden.
 
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King's Gambit Accepted said:
What specific evidence isn't being handed over? There's been multiple recounts, including by hand. All of the swing states back up electronic votes with paper ballots.

The only case of voter fraud that I recall being confirmed this election was a dude in Pennsylvania who cast a vote for Trump by his dead mother.

Even in 2016, Trump only got 46 percent of the electorate. This year, 47 percent. He's never been super popular. He has really devoted supporters but they've never been a majority. Biden may be a terrible candidate but his winning isn't all that surprising.

While it may have made a great story, I don't think Mitch McConnell, Mike Pompeo, Bill Barr, Fox News, Republicans in GA, PA, WI, NV and AZ all teamed up with a dead Venezuelan communist to fill out ballots for Biden.
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Just... to make sure. You do know that an order to hand over machines and ballots in Arizona is being fought, right? That it's been like pulling teeth to get any sort of actual audit to check authenticity and accuracy. All things that could just be granted, and restore faith in the system, or prove there was shenanigans. I'm just saying, the simplest solution is to just let these things be checked and they've not been allowed to.
 
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Grandpa Simpson said:
I wonder if the people in here that said "Biden won legitimately" are the same people who were supporting Sanders when he was sabotaged both times by the DNC to get Hillary and Biden into the top spot. The campaign leader even threatened a lawsuit over it.


I'm sure these people are going to play fair now that it's the birth of the antichrist; Trump, they are dealing with.
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If there was a contest for political spergery after losing an election Bernie Bros, Hillary bots, and MAGAtards would all be in the podium but I'm gonna have to give the gold to my boy Trump (pending multiple recounts and lawsuits). This has been an exceptional showing.
 
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BHWuser said:
Just... to make sure. You do know that an order to hand over machines and ballots in Arizona is being fought, right? That it's been like pulling teeth to get any sort of actual audit to check authenticity and accuracy. All things that could just be granted, and restore faith in the system, or prove there was shenanigans. I'm just saying, the simplest solution is to just let these things be checked and they've not been allowed to.
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You know audits happen in every state and are routine in every election right?
 
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King's Gambit Accepted said:
You know audits happen in every state and are routine in every election right?
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Yes, but what is involved in that is questionable, especially when there seems to be no resolution for certain transgressions. What's being asked for is beyond a standard audit, because those audits can fail to the same deceptions from the intial count, depending on how they're managed.
 
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Just in case you were wondering...

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They tried to sneak in a removal of Trump's ability to use the Insurrection act inside the COVID bill.

Remember, judge by actions, not words. Their actions suggest they're fucking terrified that Trump might use the insurrection act.

Edit: @Inventor of the Telephone appears to have beat me by 20 minutes, nice, lol
 
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King's Gambit Accepted said:
What specific evidence isn't being handed over? There's been multiple recounts, including by hand. All of the swing states back up electronic votes with paper ballots.

The only case of voter fraud that I recall being confirmed this election was a dude in Pennsylvania who cast a vote for Trump by his dead mother.

Even in 2016, Trump only got 46 percent of the electorate. This year, 47 percent. He's never been super popular. He has really devoted supporters but they've never been a majority. Biden may be a terrible candidate but his winning isn't all that surprising.

While it may have made a great story, I don't think Mitch McConnell, Mike Pompeo, Bill Barr, Fox News, Republicans in GA, PA, WI, NV and AZ all teamed up with a dead Venezuelan communist to fill out ballots for Biden.
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I don6t know, seems legit.
 
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HTTP Error 404 said:
Just in case you were wondering...

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They tried to sneak in a removal of Trump's ability to use the Insurrection act inside the COVID bill.

Remember, judge by actions, not words. Their actions suggest they're fucking terrified that Trump might use the insurrection act.

Edit: @Inventor of the Telephone appears to have beat me by 20 minutes, nice, lol
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Someone tweeted it, it MUST be true!
 
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BHWuser said:
Just... to make sure. You do know that an order to hand over machines and ballots in Arizona is being fought, right? That it's been like pulling teeth to get any sort of actual audit to check authenticity and accuracy. All things that could just be granted, and restore faith in the system, or prove there was shenanigans. I'm just saying, the simplest solution is to just let these things be checked and they've not been allowed to.
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If you're retarded enough to still claim there's fraud, nothing will satisfy you.

Even if there wasn't a cost to election officials at state and local levels to deal with this horseshit, even if some of these bullshit 'audit the machines' efforts weren't delibrate attempts to interfere with upcoming runoff and local elections, there is no good reason to hand machines over to whatever retarded clowns local GOP retards might give them to.

Noone needs that fucking mong who can't tell the difference between Michigan and Missouri to produce another garbage report demonstrating he doesn't know anything about voting machines. All that will do is allow Trump to run his scam on his gullible boomer fans for longer, before he has to admit that he lost like the faggot bitch he is because he did nothing for his 2016 voters, just Paul Ryan's tax cuts.
 
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HTTP Error 404 said:
Just in case you were wondering...

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They tried to sneak in a removal of Trump's ability to use the Insurrection act inside the COVID bill.

Remember, judge by actions, not words. Their actions suggest they're fucking terrified that Trump might use the insurrection act.

Edit: @Inventor of the Telephone appears to have beat me by 20 minutes, nice, lol
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It doesn't matter. Checks and balances are already built into the system. The courts are the check on the insurrection act. If you call it in a normal situation like when it was used in the LA Riots they aren't going to intervene. If you try to pull the insurrection card after losing 60-1 or whatever the final score was in courts with no widespread rioting to overthrow a national election where you are alleging but unable to provide evidence for millions of fraudulent votes they are going to pull your leash.
 
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Taco said:
It doesn't matter. Checks and balances are already built into the system. The courts are the check on the insurrection act. If you call it in a normal situation like when it was used in the LA Riots they aren't going to intervene. If you try to pull the insurrection card after losing 60-1 or whatever the final score was in courts with no widespread rioting to overthrow a national election where you are alleging but unable to provide evidence for millions of fraudulent votes they are going to pull your leash.
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Exactly. I mean, like, if Trump wanted to be re-elected, maybe he could have USED THE INSURRECTION ACT WHEN CITIES WERE BEING BURNT DOWN and then PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE VOTED FOR HIM.

He isn't going to try and use it to steal the election. This is just a QAnon/Beltway lib fantasy.
 
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