Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[TheCosmicWarrior]

She used to get into the low thousands. It's pathetic, right?

Richard's last campaign has 1.5 thousand backers...

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/impossible-stars-graphic-novel#/

If your measurement is readership, CG's not noticeable.

1.5K backers for a $25 comic. Price and demand have relationships for those that understand economics. If he priced at $3.99 I would bet he'd be in the 10K range. Instead he's making better money than the industry does, which is good for him continuing and being sustainable.

I got into trouble last year because Thinking Critical was mocking Erik Larsen saying Savage Dragon 300 or whatnot was a "ripoff" for $9.99 (ironically he supports a lot of these crowdfund guys). I was like it's a 100 page book for $9.99, that's a pretty damn good deal for readers who like SD, conversely probably doesn't make much money. He flipped out and hated me ever since. Sad he reacted like that for making a really dumb "own" of Erik Larsen, who says enough other silly stuff one can gotcha him over that you don't need to invent things.

The moral of the story is without looking at the economic aspect of it, you have no idea what you're talking about in "sales" and I'm sorry if that hurts yours or TC's fee fees. Richard is crushing it.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

That's what's so irritating to me. No one forced him into it.

Well.....i think some cg big wigs convinced him to do for "Da CultUrda WHaaAa".

 

[Rupin]

TRUNKS TURNED HEEL??!??! @VIkkiVerse you and dean should get him (or her?) on a interview so he can do a shoot interview.

nah I don’t want to do no interview. Part of being a kiwi for me is my anonymity,

 

[jspit2.0]

1.5K backers for a $25 comic.

Fleecing a smaller group of people doesn't make you influential.

Price and demand have relationships for those that understand economics.

Oh yes, please enlighten me on markets and saturation.

If he priced at $3.99 I would bet he'd be in the 10K range. Instead he's making better money than the industry does, which is good for him continuing and being sustainable.

It's a clubhouse, and a pathetic one. But when you are talking about a persons presence, eyeballs matter. But you know better, right?

I got into trouble last year because Thinking Critical was mocking Erik Larsen saying Savage Dragon 300 or whatnot was a "ripoff" for $9.99 (ironically he supports a lot of these crowdfund guys). I was like it's a 100 page book for $9.99, that's a pretty damn good deal for readers who like SD.

It is, except Dragon's hit the skids pretty hard.

He flipped out and hated me ever since. Sad he reacted like that for making a really dumb "own" of Erik Larsen, who says enough other silly stuff one can gotcha him over that you don't need to invent things.

And now we get a victim story from the perpetual victim.

The moral of the story is without looking at the economic aspect of it, you have no idea what you're talking about in "sales"

I actually do. Saying I don't doesn't make it true anymore than your orange waifu doing that with the election.

and I'm sorry if that hurts yours or TC's fee fees.

 

[Newman's Own]

1.5K backers for a $25 comic. Price and demand have relationships for those that understand economics. If he priced at $3.99 I would bet he'd be in the 10K range.

Economics don't work that way.

If Meyer sold books for $4 he'd sell maybe double or a little more assuming anyone was willing to pay $10 shipping for a $4 book. A great deal of pricing is about perceived value. Lowering ones price for boutique items like Meyer's books rarely translates into inversely proportional increases in sales.

It's unlikely Meyer would move 10,000 of any of his books if he had Diamond putting them in stores. He might have 3 years ago when his channel was on fire but I guess we'll never know.

Meyer should stick to milking cows.

@TheCosmicWarrior if you cut your prices by half you would not double your audience.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Rekieta discussing Meyer/Waid

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

Didn't zack launched a new campaign last week? I feel like Zack ruined his case because he still got work and continue pumping out books, similar to why Vic lost his kamahacon argument (although he had to pay for security and segregated to the top floor from the main halls.

But damn, the antisjw movement died this year.

 

[TheCosmicWarrior]

@TheCosmicWarrior if you cut your prices by half you would not double your audience.

I will bet you I will do at least double. I'm putting out a 99 cent digital comic in January and I will let you know confirmed numbers on that level vs. my last Amazon-only non-crowdfund comic. Apple to apples. I don't generally listen to random passerbys who want to "gotcha" on forums for business advice.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

I don't generally listen to random passerbys who want to "gotcha" on forums for business advice

Don't look now but you're that random passer-by.

 

[Rupin]

I will bet you I will do at least double. I'm putting out a 99 cent digital comic in January and I will let you know confirmed numbers on that level vs. my last Amazon-only non-crowdfund comic. Apple to apples. I don't generally listen to random passerbys who want to "gotcha" on forums for business advice.

well you might want to try it out, cuz what you are doing now ain’t working.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

Evs is joining.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Frog joining Rekieta's stream to talk Meyer/Waid.

 

[TheCosmicWarrior]

well you might want to try it out, cuz what you are doing now ain’t working.

Everything's working great. Three straight years of an extremely profitable writing career. I'll have to do the total but I'm pretty sure I sold more books this year than any prior.

 

[Pilule Noire]

I don't generally listen to random passerbys who want to "gotcha" on forums for business advice.

How about English advice? If so, you might notice the red underline on 'passerbys', because in English we pluralize to 'passersby'. It's a tricky one, don't feel bad. No gotcha, Jon! I'm trying to help you get better at writing English. Please don't ree at me Hispanically for correcting your faulty English.

 

[Rupin]

Everything's working great. Three straight years of an extremely profitable writing career. I'll have to do the total but I'm pretty sure I sold more books this year than any prior.

Your biggest campaign was Flying Sparks number 1 at 31k back in 2018. Then you made 25k with EmberWar. Afterwards, it took you two years to break five figures again with 14,000 and 13,000 dollar campaigns with your flagship series compilation of Flying Sparks. Then you slumped down to a 2,000 dollar campaign with Napalm Brothers and this is with you being a well known figure in the CG circles. How is that profitable?

 

[9th legion centurion 002]

Fleecing a smaller group of people doesn't make you influential.

If I was a fan of Richard's work and saw his new stuff with Narwal, I would feel like I was being spit in the face.

It is painfully obvious each project he is doing is severely declining in quality.

At some point, his fans are going to wake up and realize it and he is going to see diminishing sales with each project.

I have a feeling him cucking out is going to lose him some support as well, as for how much, we'll see..

 

[Newman's Own]

I will bet you I will do at least double. I'm putting out a 99 cent digital comic in January and I will let you know confirmed numbers on that level vs. my last Amazon-only non-crowdfund comic. Apple to apples. I don't generally listen to random passerbys who want to "gotcha" on forums for business advice.

I'm not doing a "gotcha" here. Economics are a hobby of mine and price strategies require a multi-variate analysis. I've slit my own throat in sales by not taking the complexity seriously in the past. Selling apples is very different than selling comics.

Here's an introduction I'm certain you're to arrogant to bother with.

Selling comics at $0.99 is different than $3.99 is different than $25. Your 99 cent strategy may be optimal but without a little understanding you might as well be determining your prices with a dart board.

Best of luck Riceman.

EDIT:

How is that profitable?

If he squeaks out a single dollar technically it's profitable.

Just because his revenues are in a slump doesn't mean he's lost ALL profit ... yet.

 

[TheCosmicWarrior]

Your biggest campaign was Flying Sparks number 1 at 31k back in 2018. Then you made 25k with EmberWar. Afterwards, it took you two years to break five figures again and get to a 13,000 dollar campaign with your flagship series compilation of Flying Sparks. Then you slumped down to a 2,000 dollar campaign with Napalm Brothers and this is with you being a well known figure in the CG circles. How is that profitable?

Not including Napalm cuz it's not my books, nothing in December since the month's not over so I don't have accurate numbers yet, nor direct sales people just bought from me via Paypal or whatever (I don't track those), nor patreon cuz not sure how to count sales there, I've sold 7,882 books this year.

EDIT: I also am not counting the NanoTemplar trilogy because I have that with a publisher. I won't get those numbers til the end of the month.

Flying Sparks 4 has done the best once backerkit came in out of any Flying Sparks since volume 1 as far as the campaigns go.

2021 I expect to see growth on all of these fronts too. I appreciate everyone who reads so much. I know it can be overwhelming for folk with how many series I've got going but a lot of folk get that we're building something awesome and trust that I'll cross genres/series and provide a great book. As an artist, being able to go where the inspiration takes me and still make money doing it is a huge blessing a lot of creators don't have.

Next year's lineup I think will push us to even greater heights with mass markets as I get away from cape stuff, which doesn't traditionally do as well in indie comics:
- Fantasy book trilogy
- Fantasy book/music combo with Moira Greyland doing the music
- Conclusion to my Aryshan Wars trilogy
- Von Monocle book 5 (my bestselling series)
- Flying Sparks 5, conclusion of the storyline
- Deus Vult: A Fantasy Crusader Graphic Novel
- Cosmic Warrior #3, storyline conclusion and then follow up with a TPB
- Clockwork Dancer #2
- Untitled Sci-Fi Graphic novel

Then a few experiments on top of it to keep the creativity going:
- AI Wars (my 99 cent experiment comic) #1
- Untitled Werewolf comic
- Meta-Man: Origins novelization (another experiment seeing how the brand crosses over to book-books)
- The Elven Princes: A Manga-style fantasy graphic novel
- Untitled Romance Novel (I'll use a pen name for this)
- Untitled Romance Graphic Novel (Also will be under the pen name)

I'm gonna be quite busy

 

[Greed]

Frog is currently streaming with a suicidal Shane Davis and a sedated Pat Parnell and it's surreal. All three of them look like they're being held at gunpoint. Frog keeps trying to extract a conversation from them but it's as if they're speaking to each other from different dimensions. Frog keeps asking for Cecil to come in and save the stream but Cecil seems oddly hesitant. The fuck is going on right now?

 

[YesNoMaybe]

Its definitely feels like yet another win for SJWs/Cancel Culture. Zach can't even talk about what happened with him and Waid anymore? Sad. There's no way to spin this as a win.