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Jacob Marley said:
One of my arab friends made me aware of this famous muslim arab troon.
Apparently got famous mostly due to lolcowish behaviour.

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I k ow I shouldn’t talk cause honestly, she look better than I do, but damn her waist is thick compared to the delicacy she’s going for.
I just feel like if I was gonna filter my face that much I’d give myself a waist too.

Oh, and she’s sitting with her knees apart, not terribly ladylike. I think there’s a Tom Sawyer/Huckleberry Finn scene about that.

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This crazy homeless troon spent a lot of time fighting with (UK) TERFs on Twitter yesterday.
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Recorded a couple of video rants as well. Here he's raging against said TERFs who get free health care and housing from the Queen of England (!) while he's always in danger on the streets. It's kind of hard to make out, but apparently he is also showing the gun at the end, saying "it's self-defense".

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Jacob Marley said:
One of my arab friends made me aware of this famous muslim arab troon.
Apparently got famous mostly due to lolcowish behaviour.

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Male brow ridge more visible in this less filtered pic. Looks kinda like Bruce Jenner.

This one's a keeper. He first appeared in 2015 and seems to be a thai ladyboy. In traditional insane troon fashion, he took the name and appearance (including tattoos) of a woman he knew. For him, that was the famous Lebanese singer Haifa Wehbe, and even lipsynced to her songs. That is, he took her name, appearance, and voice to get fame and attention on ig and yt. Holding out for her skin I guess. (src1 src2)

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Captain Fitzbattleaxe said:
Now I'm not the biggest fan of the "black lives matter" movement but surely they deserve enough respect to not be in the same sentence as fucking titty skittles?
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As someone who is somewhat supportive of BLM the trans attempts to take over the movement are infuriating. If trannies weren't sacred cows they would be (rightfully) getting dragged hard for their attempts to insert themselves into a very real discussion on racist and (even if well-intentioned) counter-productive policing practices. Black people who get killed by cops are overwhelmingly killed because they are seen as physically threatening, sometimes because the person is an actual violent criminal and sometimes because the cop is scared of black people and sometimes just because the cop is just an asshole with an itchy trigger finger regardless of the race of the person they're dealing with. Cops are not generally physically threatened by a black tranny unless they're waving a knife around (black trannies are overwhelmingly HSTSs who've been traumatized by homophobic violence, not the massive AGP linebackers we see elsewhere in this thread), black TiMs are less likely to be murdered than an average black male.
It really, really makes me mad how quick they are to coopt oppressed people's struggles. I remember reading a letter censuring James Cantor (a highly respected psychologist and sexologist) for speaking out against some stupid TRA censorship thing and they said that he shouldn't be allowed to say that censorship is bad since twenty something trans people were murdered this year. Already stupid enough there (that's not a super high number even if you take their word that these people were all trans and murdered which is not a reasonable assumption), but then they go out of their way to point out that most of these murdered trannies were black. Why did you bring race into this? If anything those sorts of highly skewed numbers imply that the fact that they were black played a bigger role than the fact that they were troons, but the reason that they brought race into the discussion is obvious. Sure, it should have theoretically weakened their case, but they did it so that they could say that he's not just a transphobe for questioning censorship, he's a RACIST. Accusations of transphobia have lost a significant bit of their sting by now, but racism is still fresh.
 
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Surfin Terf said:
That's not because conservatives are more intelligent though, it's because self-serving and hypocritical tranny apologetics is fundamentally an exercise in sophistry and while both sides engage in sophistry progressives are more likely to be convinced by it (because progressivism is almost always full of academics) while conservatives pretty much only use it to enforce their own beliefs. So a few fetishists (AGPs, AAPs, GAMPS and what have you) who probably used to be pretty evenly spread on all parts of the political spectrum ended up making inroads on the left, not only drawing in more fetishists to their part of the spectrum but also managing to flip some of the people who were already there.
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I'd disagree that it ends up being "left" because of academics or differences in terms of susceptibility to dubious abstract argumentation. In fact, I don't really think anyone is seriously convinced by the most sophisticated arguments, they're just parroted to avoid having to deal with criticisms of more grounded justifications. If you spend all your time talking about the social construction and performativity of gender then you needn't trouble yourself with the pragmatic questions that hinge on scientific realities where you are on very weak ground. It's actually a fairly general pattern; if your arguments are bad then you start discussing the nature of the constructs you're arguing over which delays having to deal with pragmatic considerations e.g. whether troons display sex-typical violence patterns or whatever have you. You don't even need to be intending to do this, but if you have a sense that you are going to be 'wrong' then you just greedily search for something that'll make you not wrong and a natural place to look is at a more meta or abstract level. The problem then occurs when you can never find a meta level reason to resolve your object level difficulty, so you get forever trapped in abstract nonsense.

I think the real reason why troonism is so firmly entrenched on the Left is simply because the right is comparatively inflexible. The right wing political imagination is heavily constrained in what it can accept; in general it has a very specific vision(s) of how society ought to be. Troons don't feature in it and especially not AGPs, AAPs or GAMPs.

Troons could only ever find a home on the left and the fact that no one much cares about some of the not terribly progressive elements of troonism, doesn't really matter because politics is dominated by adversarial binaries. For the vast majority of leftists, troons are essentially just one of many side issues that they symbolically support because it is the leftist thing to do then the details don't matter. Equally, because troons are on their side then they will reject, or attack any criticism of troons or any suggestion of incoherence on their part. In a way it's very similar (though a much milder) version of the Left's relationship with Islam where they will be repeatedly drawn into defending Islamist organizations/activists (i.e. Deobandis & Salafis) on the grounds of anti-racism/islamophobia despite the fact that these individual's beliefs could not be more diametrically opposed to left-wing opinion. In fact, it actually goes both ways to an extent with Islamists having very real sympathies for someone like Ilhan Omar who is pro-choice, pro-gay rights etc., positions which are anathema to the Islamists in theory, but can be glossed over in practice because she is both a useful vehicle on issues like Israel and India/Kashmir and because she is (or at least they believe) on their side in any real conflict they face with the broader American civil society. All of politics is like this.

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I swear nobody thinks as much about this shit as 'enbies'. Even the most macho male doesn't think this much about whether something he's doing could be perceived as girly, and even the most feminine woman will not really think twice about the car she's driving. Nonbinary people claim to be outside of all these gendered thoughts and yet they think more about it than literally anyone else.
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The torment of pretending to have a gender that does not meaningfully exist. The great problem of being "non-binary" is that gender is ultimately a question of how other relate to you and how they structure their expectations of you. It isn't really primarily one of aesthetics which is how most of "enbies" or indeed troons in general think about it and consequently they spend their time searching for aesthetic means to achieve the impossible. The aesthetic component of gender is really just the way in which you communicate your relationship to others but if nobody has any expectations around what a "non-binary" person is or what the normative way of relating to one is, then you cannot signal it and no matter how hard you try your gender will be resolved as female (or male if you're the pink-bearded man in pumps type of non-binary).

Now, it isn't strictly impossible for "non-binary" to be a socially valid gender (although it won't happen for a range of reasons), in a sense that's what actually happens to troons whenever you end with a sufficiently high concentration of them. Hence, Kathoeys in Thailand and apparently troons in SF:
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If people get exposed to enough troons then they become a third gender (FtMs could be argued to be a fourth gender although it might be truer to say they are just women). It's a beautiful paradox, people can believe troons are 'women' which arguably makes their gender female but only if they have met only a few apparently "normal" troons. However, because troons are so pervasively different to women and to men (in a social sense at least) then the second you and the society you are in get a measure of them then they become a third gender since there is now some set of expectations and understandings around the normative way to interact with them.
 
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Father Brown said:
people get exposed to enough troons then they become a third gender (FtMs could be argued to be a fourth gender although it might be truer to say they are just women). It's a beautiful paradox, people can believe troons are 'women' which arguably makes their gender female but only if they have met only a few apparently "normal" troons. However, because troons are so pervasively different to women and to men (in a social sense at least) then the second you and the society you are in get a measure of them then they become a third gender since there is now some set of expectations and understandings around the normative way to interact with them.
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Troons have othered themselves by inventing rules for how to talk to them & behave around them.

Lgb people always wanted to be treatened like everyone else. The troon cult on the other hand demands special treatment like pronoun bullshit, "deadnaming" is forbidden etc. and this is slowly biting them in the ass.
 
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This chick fucking kills me. Everything about this picture is perfect; the backward cap, the cotton tank top, the softness of her face, the weird tentativeness in her expression, the tuft of dyed red hair and most of all the pube beard. It's just a masterpiece.

File this under unstable self-image:

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Mother inexplicably sad that her autistic (as per post history) daughter is permanently mangling her body for basically no discernible reason:
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You just have to feel for the mother really, like what is she even to do or say? And her daughter can't even articulate why she wants to virilize herself in a way that doesn't rely on jargon detached from the concrete world.
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I decided to check out this thread and a funny thing happened in the comment section:

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Even robots can tell that these goofs need jesus.
 
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Ethical Nightmare said:
Some people just don't understand why it's so hard for a woman to leave an abusive relationship, because of the thought "I'd never put up with that! I'd fucking leave immediately." And I used to think the same way, until I learned that abuse is an insidious gradual process, and by the time it reaches it's peak, you've been isolated from any support network you might have including financial, they gradually break you down and alternate between being loving to an absolute terror, they gaslight you to think the abuse is your fault and if you'd just learn to try harder and not piss them off things would go back to normal, they sneakily gain control over you and take away any privacy you might have ("Hey, relationships mean about being open, honest, and trusting. If you don't have anything to hide, then there's no problem with me looking through your phone and/or computer right?"), to progressing into total control and domination of their victim. And early in a relationship, it's easy to leave, but once you get invested, even if you know deep down this relationship is toxic and abusive, it becomes extremely hard to leave, especially if you don't have family that can take you in or help you get out financially. And the abuser might indeed act like they don't want you anymore, but as soon as you say, "I'm leaving" they do everything they can to prevent that, including threatening to kill you. The abuser might even alienate your family from you due to their behavior towards them, effectively causing them to cut off contact with you. Having children just makes it even harder, because the abuser will absolutely use them against you to keep you from leaving, since the children are being gaslighted and abused as well, and might side with the abuser if they think it'll make him nicer to them, or he threatens them if they don't comply with him.

It's just an insidious process and situation. I liken it to putting a frog in a pot of water, then slowly turning the heat up until you finally boil him to death. Either you wake up in time to jump out of the pot or....you're left to your fate.

Sorry to sperg, just angers me that people are so dismissive of women who stay in abusive relationships. It's not an easy task, otherwise we'd be hearing of women leaving abusive situations more often.


Is it me, or do a lot of troons seem to be cross-eyed?
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im late as hell but it’s because they’re fucking autistic. I’m serious.

> According to research, children with ASD present with a higher incidence of strabismus (eye turn) ranging from 21-50 percent prevalence, as compared to children without ASD.

Eta: if ever you ask yourself, “why do so many troons [insert anomaly here]” just check it against common autism comorbidities. Strabismus, obesity, psychiatric disorders, troonery itself being comorbid with autism... they’re socially stunted men who self-soothed by beating off while wearing their mom’s panties in the mirror and turned it into a lifestyle.
 
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im late as hell but it’s because they’re fucking autistic. I’m serious.

> According to research, children with ASD present with a higher incidence of strabismus (eye turn) ranging from 21-50 percent prevalence, as compared to children without ASD.

Eta: if ever you ask yourself, “why do so many troons [insert anomaly here]” just check it against common autism comorbidities. Strabismus, obesity, psychiatric disorders, troonery itself being comorbid with autism... they’re socially stunted men who self-soothed by beating off while wearing their mom’s panties in the mirror and turned it into a lifestyle.
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It's a troon thing officer. I'm not drunk.

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Father Brown said:
I'd disagree that it ends up being "left" because of academics or differences in terms of susceptibility to dubious abstract argumentation. In fact, I don't really think anyone is seriously convinced by the most sophisticated arguments, they're just parroted to avoid having to deal with criticisms of more grounded justifications. If you spend all your time talking about the social construction and performativity of gender then you needn't trouble yourself with the pragmatic questions that hinge on scientific realities where you are on very weak ground. It's actually a fairly general pattern; if your arguments are bad then you start discussing the nature of the constructs you're arguing over which delays having to deal with pragmatic considerations e.g. whether troons display sex-typical violence patterns or whatever have you. You don't even need to be intending to do this, but if you have a sense that you are going to be 'wrong' then you just greedily search for something that'll make you not wrong and a natural place to look is at a more meta or abstract level. The problem then occurs when you can never find a meta level reason to resolve your object level difficulty, so you get forever trapped in abstract nonsense.

I think the real reason why troonism is so firmly entrenched on the Left is simply because the right is comparatively inflexible. The right wing political imagination is heavily constrained in what it can accept; in general it has a very specific vision(s) of how society ought to be. Troons don't feature in it and especially not AGPs, AAPs or GAMPs.

Troons could only ever find a home on the left and the fact that no one much cares about some of the not terribly progressive elements of troonism, doesn't really matter because politics is dominated by adversarial binaries. For the vast majority of leftists, troons are essentially just one of many side issues that they symbolically support because it is the leftist thing to do then the details don't matter. Equally, because troons are on their side then they will reject, or attack any criticism of troons or any suggestion of incoherence on their part. In a way it's very similar (though a much milder) version of the Left's relationship with Islam where they will be repeatedly drawn into defending Islamist organizations/activists (i.e. Deobandis & Salafis) on the grounds of anti-racism/islamophobia despite the fact that these individual's beliefs could not be more diametrically opposed to left-wing opinion. In fact, it actually goes both ways to an extent with Islamists having very real sympathies for someone like Ilhan Omar who is pro-choice, pro-gay rights etc., positions which are anathema to the Islamists in theory, but can be glossed over in practice because she is both a useful vehicle on issues like Israel and India/Kashmir and because she is (or at least they believe) on their side in any real conflict they face with the broader American civil society. All of politics is like this.



The torment of pretending to have a gender that does not meaningfully exist. The great problem of being "non-binary" is that gender is ultimately a question of how other relate to you and how they structure their expectations of you. It isn't really primarily one of aesthetics which is how most of "enbies" or indeed troons in general think about it and consequently they spend their time searching for aesthetic means to achieve the impossible. The aesthetic component of gender is really just the way in which you communicate your relationship to others but if nobody has any expectations around what a "non-binary" person is or what the normative way of relating to one is, then you cannot signal it and no matter how hard you try your gender will be resolved as female (or male if you're the pink-bearded man in pumps type of non-binary).

Now, it isn't strictly impossible for "non-binary" to be a socially valid gender (although it won't happen for a range of reasons), in a sense that's what actually happens to troons whenever you end with a sufficiently high concentration of them. Hence, Kathoeys in Thailand and apparently troons in SF:
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If people get exposed to enough troons then they become a third gender (FtMs could be argued to be a fourth gender although it might be truer to say they are just women). It's a beautiful paradox, people can believe troons are 'women' which arguably makes their gender female but only if they have met only a few apparently "normal" troons. However, because troons are so pervasively different to women and to men (in a social sense at least) then the second you and the society you are in get a measure of them then they become a third gender since there is now some set of expectations and understandings around the normative way to interact with them.
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Yeah, that’s what troons don’t get: third genders only exist cultures with extremely strict roles for men and women. In the west, men and women can do what they want, so people determine perceived gender by biological sex. It’s not 1800 and we don’t immediately think anyone in pants has to be a man because women don’t wear pants.
 
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