Trashfire Apollo Legend suicide

[Ponchik]

I believe so, but Uyama has always been desperate to hide it for reasons that anyone with even a room temperature IQ can probably figure out. I would not be surprised if half the donations go towards funding dick-lopping surgery for the disgusting troons that make up most of the roster.

b-b-b--b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b--b-bb-b-b-b-b-but i t-thought my $5 donation was going to personally kill cancer ;_;

 

[IceCreamForCrow]

Greetings from the future

 

[Cedric_Eff]

Why are so many people unironically defending Apollo Legend over this? Dude's been a scummy asshat and stirring up drama for years, honestly I'm surprised he didn't have a thread on the Farms.

Here's a quick rundown:

• His "Oceanside" scam
  
  Dude planned to organize a poor man's AGDQ called Oceanside after making a shitty video about GDQ being shady (he didn't even really call out any SJW shit). Then he didn't tell anybody about progress for months after announcing it having all the big runners. He cancelled the thing two fucking weeks in advance. Financing was done using crowdfunding (this will be a theme) which ended up receiving $20,000 of which (to my knowledge) $19,500 were then suddenly claimed to have been his own money all along. He did offer some refunds, but I've heard he just went ahead and reused some of the funds for the Billy Mitchell case as well.
  Shit was shady as fuck even if you give him the benefit of the doubt here.
  
  
• The RWhiteGoose situation
  
  Before you call the SWJ boogeyman, read Goose's own thread, guy's been a cow long even before that shit went down. Goose basically said some extremely far-right shit (all in the thread), acknowledging it as dumb shit and apologising for it. However, the content isn't even really why Apollo Legend got a shitstorm for.
  The guy made a video of the situation where he simply did not even mention the whole Discord leak. You have to keep in mind that he probably had the largest speedrunning channel on Youtube at the time, with videos regularly hitting several million views - people got their information from him. He was clearly trying to manipulate public perception in favor for Goose here, and in an incompetent way to boot.
  
  
• The DarkViper beef - honestly no idea about that one, I've been out of the community during that time and don't care too much about DarkViper. It's discussed in EZScape's video, as far as I understand it Apollo started shit and took a L from it (despite seemingly being correct in the end).
  
  
• Billy Mitchell lawsuit and scam
  
  Long story that goes way beyond this situation.
  In short: Apollo messed with Billy Mitchell (King of Kong) through clickbaiting a bunch of videos and openly calling him a cheater at Pacman and Donkey Kong (the guy is somewhat well-known for his arcade gaming records). He then got sued over it along TwinGalaxies.com (basically the authority on arcade game records), because Billy Mitchell tends to do that. Apollo then worked with TwinGalaxies on a counter case, for which he opened a GoFundMe crowdfunding campaign. which reached again $20,000.
  He explicitly promised refunds in case the lawsuit does not happen, and guess what: it did not, Apollo got kind of fucked over by his incompetent lawyer and TwinGalaxies, and had to settle the matter out of court with Mitchell (including taking down all videos).
  
  Refunds still did not happen for months and Apollo said nothing on the matter. This is where EZScape comes in, who posted a video to his secondary Youtube channel (with 60k subs compared to his main channel with 300k) on the situation and also collectively calling out Apollo for all the scummy shit he did over the years. After a few months, refunds finally happened and EZScape set the video to unlisted, while it still only peaked at about 300k views (Apollo's own call-out videos used to get millions of views).
  
  
• A lot of other small shit and rumours I've picked up and vaguely remember, such as not asking for permission to use their clips (which practically costs the streamer views and thus money if they're on Youtube), supposedly advertising some scummy streaming service, and acting scummy in regards to many of his videos (e.g. the AGDQ video mentioned above was full of bullshit).
  He's also barely reachable and hasn't been on social media or in contact with anyone for half a year, and only sporadically before that. People who claim he was "backstabbed" tend to forget that for some reason, I mean it's literally one of the motivations that probably led to EZScapes video.
  
  
• Most importantly though: Apollo Legend got famous primarily by making videos calling out others on shitty practices or cheating. He's never been called out publicly like that before DarkViper and EZScape made their videos. Don't fucking mess with people if you can't handle anything.

Dude's been comically incompetent with business matters at best and straight-out has been scamming people for ~$40k at worst. There's really no reason to feel particularly sorry for him in this situation.

I was seriously surprised when his death was confirmed, because to me this looked like another scam considering the ridiculous GoFundMe and no mention of Billy Mitchell in his suicide note (which doesn't make sense to me unless he wants to avoid any legal trouble - guy is literally responsible for his mom having $10k of debt now). I would still not be surprised if he turned up alive and was simply taking some sick "revenge" on people he felt wronged him.

Some of his old content being good years ago doesn't make the fucker a decent human being. The community has moved on for years, his content is shit compared to what Karl Jobst, ironically EZScape, Lowest Percent, Summoning Salt, or even Goose have been putting out recently. Go watch that if that's your only concern here.

If he is indeed dead, he went out in the most pathetic and disgusting way possible.
It is well-known that EZScape has had experiences with a friend of him trying to commit suicide. Call him a faggot, he might be one, that doesn't fucking change you have to be a complete manipulative psychopath to pull something like this, especially since according to EZScape they haven't been in direct contact for months, probably at least July when Apollo Legend posted his last tweet and quit Youtube.
I seriously have no sympathy for Apollo Legend due to this, in fact I hope he didn't go out quietly for acting like an absolute attention-grabbing autistic faggot while not even calling out Mitchell to fire up the shitstorm.

This whole shitshow boils my piss and reminds me on the daily that speedrunners are real scumbags.

 

[Str8Bustah]

Why are so many people unironically defending Apollo Legend over this? Dude's been a scummy asshat and stirring up drama for years, honestly I'm surprised he didn't have a thread on the Farms.

Here's a quick rundown:

• His "Oceanside" scam
  
  Dude planned to organize a poor man's AGDQ called Oceanside after making a shitty video about GDQ being shady (he didn't even really call out any SJW shit). Then he didn't tell anybody about progress for months after announcing it having all the big runners. He cancelled the thing two fucking weeks in advance. Financing was done using crowdfunding (this will be a theme) which ended up receiving $20,000 of which (to my knowledge) $19,500 were then suddenly claimed to have been his own money all along. He did offer some refunds, but I've heard he just went ahead and reused some of the funds for the Billy Mitchell case as well.
  Shit was shady as fuck even if you give him the benefit of the doubt here.
  
  
• The RWhiteGoose situation
  
  Before you call the SWJ boogeyman, read Goose's own thread, guy's been a cow long even before that shit went down. Goose basically said some extremely far-right shit (all in the thread), acknowledging it as dumb shit and apologising for it. However, the content isn't even really why Apollo Legend got a shitstorm for.
  The guy made a video of the situation where he simply did not even mention the whole Discord leak. You have to keep in mind that he probably had the largest speedrunning channel on Youtube at the time, with videos regularly hitting several million views - people got their information from him. He was clearly trying to manipulate public perception in favor for Goose here, and in an incompetent way to boot.
  
  
• The DarkViper beef - honestly no idea about that one, I've been out of the community during that time and don't care too much about DarkViper. It's discussed in EZScape's video, as far as I understand it Apollo started shit and took a L from it (despite seemingly being correct in the end).
  
  
• Billy Mitchell lawsuit and scam
  
  Long story that goes way beyond this situation.
  In short: Apollo messed with Billy Mitchell (King of Kong) through clickbaiting a bunch of videos and openly calling him a cheater at Pacman and Donkey Kong (the guy is somewhat well-known for his arcade gaming records). He then got sued over it along TwinGalaxies.com (basically the authority on arcade game records), because Billy Mitchell tends to do that. Apollo then worked with TwinGalaxies on a counter case, for which he opened a GoFundMe crowdfunding campaign. which reached again $20,000.
  He explicitly promised refunds in case the lawsuit does not happen, and guess what: it did not, Apollo got kind of fucked over by his incompetent lawyer and TwinGalaxies, and had to settle the matter out of court with Mitchell (including taking down all videos).
  
  Refunds still did not happen for months and Apollo said nothing on the matter. This is where EZScape comes in, who posted a video to his secondary Youtube channel (with 60k subs compared to his main channel with 300k) on the situation and also collectively calling out Apollo for all the scummy shit he did over the years. After a few months, refunds finally happened and EZScape set the video to unlisted, while it still only peaked at about 300k views (Apollo's own call-out videos used to get millions of views).
  
  
• A lot of other small shit and rumours I've picked up and vaguely remember, such as not asking for permission to use their clips (which practically costs the streamer views and thus money if they're on Youtube), supposedly advertising some scummy streaming service, and acting scummy in regards to many of his videos (e.g. the AGDQ video mentioned above was full of bullshit).
  He's also barely reachable and hasn't been on social media or in contact with anyone for half a year, and only sporadically before that. People who claim he was "backstabbed" tend to forget that for some reason, I mean it's literally one of the motivations that probably led to EZScapes video.
  
  
• Most importantly though: Apollo Legend got famous primarily by making videos calling out others on shitty practices or cheating. He's never been called out publicly like that before DarkViper and EZScape made their videos. Don't fucking mess with people if you can't handle anything.

Dude's been comically incompetent with business matters at best and straight-out has been scamming people for ~$40k at worst. There's really no reason to feel particularly sorry for him in this situation.

I was seriously surprised when his death was confirmed, because to me this looked like another scam considering the ridiculous GoFundMe and no mention of Billy Mitchell in his suicide note (which doesn't make sense to me unless he wants to avoid any legal trouble - guy is literally responsible for his mom having $10k of debt now). I would still not be surprised if he turned up alive and was simply taking some sick "revenge" on people he felt wronged him.

Some of his old content being good years ago doesn't make the fucker a decent human being. The community has moved on for years, his content is shit compared to what Karl Jobst, ironically EZScape, Lowest Percent, Summoning Salt, or even Goose have been putting out recently. Go watch that if that's your only concern here.

If he is indeed dead, he went out in the most pathetic and disgusting way possible.
It is well-known that EZScape has had experiences with a friend of him trying to commit suicide. Call him a faggot, he might be one, that doesn't fucking change you have to be a complete manipulative psychopath to pull something like this, especially since according to EZScape they haven't been in direct contact for months, probably at least July when Apollo Legend posted his last tweet and quit Youtube.
I seriously have no sympathy for Apollo Legend due to this, in fact I hope he didn't go out quietly for acting like an absolute attention-grabbing autistic faggot while not even calling out Mitchell to fire up the shitstorm.

the fact that you made an account just to post this immediately makes me doubt any integrity you might claim to have.

 

[9263900263]

>thread about guy who pissed off a bunch of troons an-heroing suddenly filled with a bunch of mad at the internet types that talk exactly like gdq troons right as the canadians are waking up
Things that make you go hmmmmm

Read the start of the thread. The troons were out in force when this kicked off. They will be sleeping for another 3-5 hours.

I believe so, but Uyama has always been desperate to hide it for reasons that anyone with even a room temperature IQ can probably figure out. I would not be surprised if half the donations go towards funding dick-lopping surgery for the disgusting troons that make up most of the roster.

A large segment of the money goes to Uyama and others who arrange the event. They're making 6 figure salaries off of it and giving the impression it's done by the community to donate all to charity.

 

[MooseGump]

the fact that you made an account just to post this immediately makes me doubt any integrity you might claim to have.

Have it been anyone else and you would see people doing the "everyone makes mistakes" shtick for worse shit, but no this guy in particular has to be beaten after the fact I guess

 

[Dark Edea]

Any word on how he did it?

 

[CavewomenDCJ]

A large segment of the money goes to Uyama and others who arrange the event. They're making 6 figure salaries off of it and giving the impression it's done by the community to donate all to charity.

>implying other charities don't do it.
Are people really this stupid

 

[Superman93's Bitch]

I'm getting weird irony vibes from a few people in this thread with seemingly no self awareness for where they are posting getting mad at a community driving someone to suicide.

I'm a few beers in tho. Maybe I'm reading the room wrong.

P.S. allowing people to weaponize their suicides against people they hate is a great thing, unironically. A sped dies, and the community of speds that sped associated with gets lambasted by speds demanding apologies while ridiculing, which in turn causes more speds to kill themselves. An unending cycle. The circle of autism. Great entertainment.

 

[Chaos Theorist]

People saying the guys he listed aren't to blame for this don't understand how autistic Apollo was and why alienating him from speed running made him an hero.

People with chronic illnesses are usually isolated, they're not much fun to be around and can't go partying with you every weekend. For many of them the internet becomes their entire world, because they can't physically be in the real one. Modern pain management sucks and one of the biggest helps for those people is distractions, video games being the ultimate distraction were likely a big part of Apollo's health management. The guys cynical as all fuck because he's sick and that makes him bitter some times, he doesn't have the social filter normies do so he speaks his mind. He tries to fight against bullshit like Transitions done quick and lies from Billy "Tiny dong" Mitchell. In the end Billy abuses the legal system's pay to play setup and forces Apollo to back down and surrender in some fashion. Any one, sick or not can see the bullshit is off the charts when a guy can cheat and then blackmail you into submission when you reveal it. But hey, lifes shit right? What's a crippled fuck going to do except bitch to his friends and carry on with life as best he can. Then due to troon drama and internet slap fights his friends turn on him and abandon him after saying they supported him. Every where he used to feel safe is overrun by youtube kiddies and redditors shit talking him, so his "safe space" from his disability is completely fucked. He has no where to turn any more and no more friends to lean on when things are rough for him. He sees another hospital visit, more pain and even less places to escape to so he an heroes rather than put up with it.

I have no horse in this race, I'm not autistic enough to care about speed running drama. It's frustrating to see people white knighting the cancel culture bitches and excusing the immense amount of drama and witch hunting online. Apollo may have been the world's biggest faggot for all I know. I only saw his videos on youtube and watched him out Billy as a cheat. This isn't a standard, suicide where he offed himself because teenagers from Tumblr kept saying mean things to him. It's clear from the troon responses and the endless Reddit threads that Apollo was driven out of the space he used as part of his pain management. The people he named were the instigators who either egged him on and then stabbed him in the back for troon approval or got called out on sketchy dealings behind the scenes and sent a hate mob after him for it. These people constantly go on about mental health awareness and other social media virtue signalling and they're all full of shit. Apollo's mental health would have been in the gutter without any of the speed running drama chasing him around. His health makes that a home run if there ever was one. Instead of the people claiming they care trying to help him, they consider their little video game cliques more important than a guy suffering serious mental stress he cannot avoid because of his health condition. They're all a bunch of whack jobs using speed running to hide from their own hairy cocks, so when someone attacked it for rightful wrongs, they attacked him viciously and relentlessly to defend it. Karma will swing back around soon enough when more and more speed troons end up getting the same cancel culture treatment and an hero the same way Apollo did. They're all broken people, with no one who cares about them and use speed running as a replacement family, but they're a hundred times more loyal to speed running than their real family because their real family rejected or abused them and they're trying to avoid repeat of that. Bunch of broken fuck ups who turn on each other for twitch viewers and to defend the new "family". They all have skeletons in their closet and it's only a matter of time before they all end up in shallow graves with their real names on the head stones.

He made some cool videos. RIP Apollo.

Should of smoked some weed or took opiates , it seems probably safer than associating with speedrunning trannies tbh

 

[Pepper Jack]

Here is Tipster's video on the situation. Tipster and Apollo were friends and Tipster himself struggles with depression and suicidal thoughts.

 

[Nobunaga]

the fact that trannies of the speedrun community outlived him is the real tragedy.

Dont worry, the speed running community loves breaking records after all

 

[Nick Nock]

the fact that you made an account just to post this immediately makes me doubt any integrity you might claim to have.

That's because I tend to lurk only and don't give a shit normally. People defending this dumb faggot while not pointing out who he even is or what this is about boils my blood, though. Again, I'm seriously surprised he didn't even have his own thread, e.g. he's also been suicide baiting for a bit before yesterday happened.

All the stuff I posted is well-documented in Youtube videos and Reddit threads that probably also all have been posted and archived in this thread. I have no particular insights beyond that, except following the Speedrun community for a while.

 

[ddlloo]

This is the weird thing about Keem that always keeps me from judging him as 'just another asshole on the internet'. I've noticed that while he's objectively an incredibly toxic and abrasive individual, he can be surprisingly sincere on rare occasions. Several people I know have said they like him because he just came out of left field and helped them with something they didn't even ask for. He's the human equivalent of an ongoing train-wreck, but just occasionally it feels like he chucks an orphan out the window instead of deeper into the crash, and that keeps him from being a monster in the eyes of some.

I don't think he's anything particularly special when compared to joe blow, I just reckon he has a very good idea what the dark side of the internet and social media is like and how easily it can affect certain people. He also understands that he runs a business and that his personality and willingness to walk through the mud is what makes him money.

End result is that people see his on air personality and what his shows are about and come to some fairly obvious conclusions that there is nothing nice or redeemable about him. Shock horror the truth is that while he can be an arsehole he's also more or less just a regular guy who is now raising a young family. Biggest difference is that he's loaded and has to put up with drama craving teenagers (and drama filled adults) for a living.

Overall I think he's clearly a bit of an arsehole, but a lot of it is just an exaggerated persona. There are plenty of people who have credited him with being good to them, when he had no reason to, so it makes it hard for me to think he's this idiotic satan incarnate some people paint him as.

 

[pineapple chunks on pizza]

As mentioned, the reason he names EVScape is that EV privately was encouraging Apollo to post videos and then publicly went out and shit on him for those same videos.

He also got hired by GDQ but that is likely a coincidence.

 

[RichardRApe]

Here is Tipster's video on the situation. Tipster and Apollo were friends

We were close friends, time to scoop up some of those views. Nothing personal, kid.

 

[AsbestosFlaygon]

the fact that you made an account just to post this immediately makes me doubt any integrity you might claim to have.

It's not completely wrong though, now he certainly hasn't done anything so bad that I wanted him to be fucking death mind you. But he's definitely fucked up plenty of times, certainly enough where he does warrant at least some of the distaste the broader community had for him.

 

[Str8Bustah]

Have it been anyone else and you would see people doing the "everyone makes mistakes" shtick for worse shit, but no this guy in particular has to be beaten after the fact I guess

my bet is it's another salty troon or GDQ staffer coming out of the woodworks to dance on the corpse of someone with mental problems, especially considering how much of a shit he gave about Goose making off colour jokes about uncle adolf's funne rollercoaster and how much he underplayed the shit that Uyama and the rest of the GDQ staff have been caught up in over the years.

Apollo may have been an autistic sped, but he was an entertaining autistic sped , and one of the few people actually willing to talk about how much of a shitshow GDQ is.

All the stuff I posted is well-documented in Youtube videos and Reddit threads

I knew I could smell something off about you. Get ye gone, reddit golem. back to sucking off the trannies in r/GDQ you go.

 

[9263900263]

You've seen his video. He gave up because "it didn't work for him." That is a bullshit excuse for giving up, and he took the easy way out while trying to fuck over other people (not that they are saints. They are speedrunners, which probably makes them speds, at the very least.)


Yeah, I can talk from a privileged position of comfort, I won't deny it. I'm a metaphorical faggot too, but that doesn't make it any less true.

That's easy to say while you sit in comfort. Hard to say when every day you're in agony, can barely move and know it's only going downhill from here. If the treatment didn't work and he had enough then he had enough. You're not a hero for not dying or dying, you're just dead. My post wasn't to make Apollo look like anything but the sperg he is, it's to explain why he called out the people he did from experience with others dealing with serious health issues.

>implying other charities don't do it.
Are people really this stupid

GDQ relies on it's image as a small time thing run by the community for the community. Remember this is Twitch where millionaires pretend they're poor college students to keep the donations rolling in. GDQ relies on seeming like a cottage industry rather than a big ass corporation.

Should of smoked some weed or took opiates , it seems probably safer than associating with speedrunning trannies tbh

Anything is safer then speedrunning trannies are. Weed can cause mental health issues and opiates are addictive and mess you up in other ways.

 

[Dark Edea]

The only thing worse than internet deaths is the avalanche of response videos. Trashy.