Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Local Fed]

Wasn't the WHO a bullshit Chinese puppet organisation according to this thread a few months ago?

The point that @teriyakiburns is making I think is that for months all of these super pro-lockdown and "Trust the science!" people and publications like the BBC were chastising anyone who wasn't in lockstep with the WHO. Now the BBC doesn't seem to be in lockstep with the WHO and seems to be contradicting them. teriyakiburns isn't saying that the WHO is now great, they're saying that suddenly the BBC, part of the group which was pissed with anyone questioning the the supreme authority of the WHO is now seemingly questioning them which is rich.

 

[Arm Pit Cream]

 

[LaxerBRO]

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It's a terrible lie, the chance is as bad as 1%!!! Then they have to drive the point home that 1 is is 30x worse than 0.03.

All the issues we are having or are going to have with loss of education, employment, livelihoods, it's not been caused by this weak ass disease. It's been caused by panicking faggots

After we counted some middle aged office worker with no major medical issues we included meth addicts, people that were obese, who had diabetes, COPD, and were elderly to get it up to a 1% average.

 

[mandatorylurk]

I don't know why I'm drawn more to the business aspect of this whole farce that's almost a year old. Could be working for a small business and seeing sweat equity in my family in the past. But the Barstool Sports guy doing his Barstool Fund to help out struggling mom and pop businesses hits hard and.

This year I'm making a strong commitment to shop at smaller places even if I don't get it the next day, or just going to eBay for things because what the cocksuckers in congress and the big businesses have done and gotten away with, I just wish sweet divine justice on them. And it becomes more apparent this is what they wanted to happen.

This is a graph of recessions, but look how broken the Wuflu one is compared to other ones that were beyond control:

 

[Grabthar's Hammer]

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Cue some odious bluecheck on Twitter arguing that he shouldn't get the money because he's not wearing a mask in 3...2...1...

 

[Inventor of the Telephone]

Israel: thousands wait in car lines to get the COVID-19 vaccine in Ashdod No other country has vaccinated more of their population as quickly

>yelling 'free shit' in a nation of jews
Yeah, I don't know who could have predicted that outcome.

Not a lot of diversity of vehicle models in Israel, I guess? Looks like a dealer mobilized their fleet. Easily 1/2 to 2/3 of the cars are the exact same model.

https://twitter.com/surplustakes/status/1346414148717043713

Cases in England have now completely diverged from the wider Western European pattern. Scotland is beginning to follow.

The UK has gone full 'Dark Winter' mode.

During their stay they contract Covid and the hospital lists that as a factor in the patient's death.

That is true, but also it is even more confounding that the tests cannot/will not - by design - accurately/reliably diagnose disease, so we will never know the real extent of the spread of the disease, only that it is overblown to a undeserving degree.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Wasn't the WHO a bullshit Chinese puppet organisation according to this thread a few months ago?

I took it as less of a "The WHO is reliable now!" and more of a "even the embarrassed WHO admits this now", as others have pointed out there is also the angle that mainstream media outlets like the BBC were taking the WHO's word as gospel months ago, and have now started ignoring that in favor of their own fear-mongering.

Even then, @Bosmadden wasn't citing the WHO as much as citing Ioannidis's meta-analysis paper (which has been posted to this thread multiple times, FYI) which itself was using metrics from other peer-reviewed sources - not some random globalist bureaucrat larping as a scientist talking out their ass, like we had in the early months of COVID.

Same in the Asian slums, particularly in the Indian subcontinent. A massive malnourished population living in abject poverty with terrible sanitation. An aggressive viral pneumonia should have killed off millions. We should be seeing images of people stacked a mile high in these places. Instead virtually no one is getting sick, let alone dying.

They keep ripping on India as "one of the hardest hit", along with the US and Brazil, because thunk-brains can't comprehend how population works.

Meanwhile New Zealand which gets credit as the holy golden ox of the world (with its population smaller than New York City and pop density half that of Missouri), still keeps having COVID cases pop up after their horse-faced PM declaring "victory" multiple times.

 

[Flaming Carrot]

Israel: thousands wait in car lines to get the COVID-19 vaccine in Ashdod No other country has vaccinated more of their population as quickly
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The Israelis are prioritizing older people, but they're also giving it out to anybody who wants if if people cancel appointments or if they don't show up. I read on Twitter that at one hospital a nurse grabbed a pizza delivery guy off the street and gave him a shot rather than let a dose go bad.

Meanwhile in America, Andrew Cuomo is threatening any hospital with fines that innoculates people outside of specific designations, but also threatening them if they have wasted doses. A freezer containing vaccines broke in California broke, so the nurses innoculated 600 people in 2 hours, which I think is proof that things could be going faster. Vaccination is slow in America, but it's happening because the politicians are terrified of someone breaking in line or getting a shot due to some kind of privilege.

Meanwhile, France is setting up a committee of 35 random people to study how to distribute the vaccine. The committee is supposed to present their findings in July. So don't expect France's vaccination rate to go up for at least six months.

 

[Inventor of the Telephone]

https://twitter.com/TheDailyMao/status/1346314034065248259

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1346314034065248259.html

ICYMI, Matt Pottinger commissioned a 30,000 word screed to cover up his failure to contain COVID in the US. This was the most hagiographic piece of journalistic fiction I read in 2020. It’s as accurate as the score in a round of golf with Kim Jong-Il 1/

This is a long, fascinating, spooky rabbit hole of a thread.

Meanwhile, France is setting up a committee of 35 random people to study how to distribute the vaccine. The committee is supposed to present their findings in July. So don't expect France's vaccination rate to go up for at least six months.

https://twitter.com/pegobry/status/1346361875366346754

For some indecipherable reason, France has mandated that only doctors can give the Covid shot.

(During the yearly flu vaccination campaigns, most people get the shot from their local pharmacist.)

 

[Jarolleon]

I took it as less of a "The WHO is reliable now!" and more of a "even the embarrassed WHO admits this now", as others have pointed out there is also the angle that mainstream media outlets like the BBC were taking the WHO's word as gospel months ago, and have now started ignoring that in favor of their own fear-mongering.

Even then, @Bosmadden wasn't citing the WHO as much as citing Ioannidis's meta-analysis paper (which has been posted to this thread multiple times, FYI) which itself was using metrics from other peer-reviewed sources - not some random globalist bureaucrat larping as a scientist talking out their ass, like we had in the early months of COVID.


They keep ripping on India as "one of the hardest hit", along with the US and Brazil, because thunk-brains can't comprehend how population works.

Meanwhile New Zealand which gets credit as the holy golden ox of the world (with its population smaller than New York City and pop density half that of Missouri), still keeps having COVID cases pop up after their horse-faced PM declaring "victory" multiple times.

I wonder if some in the MSM will take up the "WHO is a chink puppet trying to trivialise the Wu Flu to weaken the West" line. I know CCP money abounds in those circles, but have the Powers that Be in the West really resigned themselves to simply being stooges of a CCP-lead world order? If that was true the Uyghur shit would have been memory-holed rather than talked about in sources as cucked as the CBC I think. Plus the "Diversity is our Strength" Western powers would be a foil to the borderline National Socialists running the CCP at the moment if it weren't for the "It's only bad when white people do it" double standards on the part of woke idiots.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

I wonder if some in the MSM will take up the "WHO is a chink puppet trying to trivialise the Wu Flu to weaken the West" line.

On one hand, I could see them running with something like that, but to the degree of "Ackachually, the virus is MOAR deadly than reported! Be scared, citizens!"

On the other hand, the demographics who watch the news already think this thing is fucking mega-death, so they might not even have to.

 

[Smug Cat]

I’m now thinking “maybe this Trump guy actually did have his election stolen, what do I know other than the media lies about everything”.

I had that moment when the Christchurch shootings hit. Watching that video, and then seeing the CC police say their response time was five minutes and seeing the mainstream media repeat that uncritically was a real watershed moment for me. Since then I've been paying more attention and fact-checking what the media reports and I've determined that they're lying if their lips are moving.

It's frustrating, honestly. Every time some retarded doomer near me quotes a CNN article I just want to go "jesus fuck you retard they aren't telling you the truth," but observing reality makes me a conspiracy theorist now I guess.

I can’t think of one. No vaccine is 100%, for example chickenpox you can still get it and shed but it’s not that common and you’d get a milder disease course. Flu of course is a guess on which strains circulate that year, so lots of vaccinated people get the flu but that’s not quite the same thing (it’s likely to be a different strain rather than you getting the strain you’re vaccinated against.)
I can’t think of a vaccine developed with that kind of ‘leakiness’ as an acceptable feature. It’s more usually that a minority don’t get the full protection.
Some people just don’t raise good antibody responses. hep B that healthcare workers get is a good example - some people don’t seem to respond, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t mounting a T cell response.
Very little about the covid response makes sense to me.

See that makes sense. An incomplete immune response might confer some protection without making it entirely impossible to pass on. I imagine it would make it less likely though. The logic of "it doesn't prevent you from spreading it so you still need isolation and a mask" has struck me as highly suspect.

I wish I weren't an arctic cave ape and could truck that climate. Florida is punishment for an alpino. Also screw gators and fist sized flying roaches.

Not to PL too much but I am a fellow arctic cave ape who recently traveled to Florida, and while I bitched about the heat, the absolute relief of being in that environment where everything's open and everyone's friendly and nobody leaps away from you on the street like you're a leper made the idea of a move really tempting anyway. The amount of constant psychological stress of being under lockdown and the "new normal" really cannot be overstated. It genuinely felt like taking gasps of fresh air after holding my breath right to the breaking point.

 

[Otterly]

I had that moment when the Christchurch shootings hit. Watching that video, and then seeing the CC police say their response time was five minutes and seeing the mainstream media repeat that uncritically was a real watershed moment for me. Since then I've been paying more attention and fact-checking what the media reports and I've determined that they're lying if their lips are moving.

I’ve always had a decent amount of skepticism for what I’m told, but I have also been really deeply disturbed by the media coverage of the last year. Molecular genetics is something I know a lot about, I can follow the primary papers and I understand the field in good depth.... and every article I’ve seen has been misleading. Every WHO announcement has been suspect. Every NGO is suspect. Every government proclamation (bar a few from Sweden) has been misleading, wrong, deliberately twisted or clear propaganda. SAGE, the group who advise the UK government, seem to have been chosen with almost zero due diligence. Ferguson in particular - I will be Unshocked to say the least if he’s later found to be a foreign paid implant.
I never had any illusions that the government were particularly competent in specific fields but I had assumed they at least had decent advisory/intel and the ability to parse what they’re told with reasonably good judgement to keep things on the rails. I can no longer think they’re incompetent, or just venal and on the gravy train while keeping things chugging along. I now think that at least a proportion of them, possibly most of them are actively acting against the interests of society.

It’s really shaken me. I say that as someone who was a skeptic before, so I wasn’t naive. The scale and the depth of it has shaken me to my core. As has the public response.

 

[Quantum Diabetes]

This is happening right now as one of my fav hot right wing babes is headed to d.c.

https://twitter.com/stclairashley/status/1346535433119924229?s=19

I'm still not ruling out some kind of mind control fuckery happening. Everyone who acts like this acts the same.

 

[Smug Cat]

I’ve always had a decent amount of skepticism for what I’m told, but I have also been really deeply disturbed by the media coverage of the last year. Molecular genetics is something I know a lot about, I can follow the primary papers and I understand the field in good depth.... and every article I’ve seen has been misleading. Every WHO announcement has been suspect. Every NGO is suspect. Every government proclamation (bar a few from Sweden) has been misleading, wrong, deliberately twisted or clear propaganda. SAGE, the group who advise the UK government, seem to have been chosen with almost zero due diligence. Ferguson in particular - I will be Unshocked to say the least if he’s later found to be a foreign paid implant.
I never had any illusions that the government were particularly competent in specific fields but I had assumed they at least had decent advisory/intel and the ability to parse what they’re told with reasonably good judgement to keep things on the rails. I can no longer think they’re incompetent, or just venal and on the gravy train while keeping things chugging along. I now think that at least a proportion of them, possibly most of them are actively acting against the interests of society.

It’s really shaken me. I say that as someone who was a skeptic before, so I wasn’t naive. The scale and the depth of it has shaken me to my core. As has the public response.

Yeah, I can't say I've ever been overwhelmed with trust for the government but this past year has really ramped everything up. The lying has been going on for quite some time, but the combination of the lies and the totalitarianism of the lockdowns which are happening almost everywhere is genuinely terrifying. People have been shitposting about a "one world government" for a long time and idk how true any of that is, but the way the exact same rhetoric is governing almost the entire western world right now is really, deeply troubling. Americans as a whole are meant to be very libertarian in comparison to most of the western world and only two of our fifty states are properly pushing back. That is flabbergasting to me.

I want to believe it's some kind of sunken-cost-fallacy idiot shit, but I have to admit that the pattern is too pervasive and too uniform to really be easily attributed to independent incompetence. The rhetoric is the same, the manipulated science is the same, and the conclusions drawn always just so happen to be in the best interests of the most worrisome elements of society. It benefits the aims of extreme government authority and intrusion into private life, the CCP, and big corporations like Amazon, Walmart, in conjunction with big tech and their global dominance over The Narrative. I don't know where we're going from here but it's starting to seem as though a certain amount of malevolence from those at or near the top just cannot be denied.

And the way propaganda is working on the people at large is nothing short of horrifying. The amount of hissing, spitting, violent rage you're confronted with when pointing out an inconsistency or disagreeing with some government proclamation or other is frightening. I can't help but wonder if this experience mirrors those of skeptics at the beginnings of other totalitarian regimes like Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, the CCP, etc. How much of this is history repeating itself, and what does that mean for where we're headed?

 

[Jarolleon]

I’ve always had a decent amount of skepticism for what I’m told, but I have also been really deeply disturbed by the media coverage of the last year. Molecular genetics is something I know a lot about, I can follow the primary papers and I understand the field in good depth.... and every article I’ve seen has been misleading. Every WHO announcement has been suspect. Every NGO is suspect. Every government proclamation (bar a few from Sweden) has been misleading, wrong, deliberately twisted or clear propaganda. SAGE, the group who advise the UK government, seem to have been chosen with almost zero due diligence. Ferguson in particular - I will be Unshocked to say the least if he’s later found to be a foreign paid implant.
I never had any illusions that the government were particularly competent in specific fields but I had assumed they at least had decent advisory/intel and the ability to parse what they’re told with reasonably good judgement to keep things on the rails. I can no longer think they’re incompetent, or just venal and on the gravy train while keeping things chugging along. I now think that at least a proportion of them, possibly most of them are actively acting against the interests of society.

It’s really shaken me. I say that as someone who was a skeptic before, so I wasn’t naive. The scale and the depth of it has shaken me to my core. As has the public response.

Could be Gell-Mann amnesia . Every field is so specialised that even if journalists weren't full of shit they couldn't possibly get it all right, and same with politicians and bureaucrats.

 

[JosephStalin]

Folks, have seen this all before, during Vietnam, the most recent national-level fuckup on this scale. The societal damage will last much longer than most anyone thinks. I expect reverberations from this for years, if not decades.

Keep in mind that those who get away from you if you don't wear a mask have the problem, you don't. Take your picture? Take theirs, and flip them off. If they verbally hassle you, ignore them. If they attack you, defend yourself. The vast majority of you are far younger and in rather better shape than I am, but nobody bothers me. Maybe they can see the "fuck you, I'm an American, try me" attitude in my eyes above my "this mask is as useless as our governor" mask . Relax...don't let these shitheads rent any space in your head. Don't live in fear of ANYONE.

Now, the latest babbling from Fauci. As always, fuck him, fully.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...train/ss-BB1cuWkX?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBnbfcL

https://archive.vn/T14xC

 

[Nopenopenope]

If the coof was really ZOMG! we'd be seeing mass death events in Sub Saharan Africa, most of which has no public health system.

Yes they have far fewer old people and way, way less fatties but they also have a huge number of the malnourished and HIV is prevalent in parts, as well as Malaria, TB, Parasitical infections and God knows what else.

Despite this Covid has been a complete nothing burger.

Same in the Asian slums, particularly in the Indian subcontinent. A massive malnourished population living in abject poverty with terrible sanitation. An aggressive viral pneumonia should have killed off millions. We should be seeing images of people stacked a mile high in these places. Instead virtually no one is getting sick, let alone dying.

Strangely the only places that are reporting high mortality rates are western nations that are aggressively using PCR tests as the only diagnostic tool to determine causation . Even then it is only among the very, very old and those suffering from severe chronic illness.

I really hope there are enough sane people in the future to be interested in reading a history book. But I'm sure this last 1 and a half years will be known as the biggest mass pant-shitting over nothing in history.

 

[Josterman]

Can someone leak this COVID nurse name and address
She is an entitled piece of human garbage probably equally as irritating as the dancing nurses
https://mobile.twitter.com/FirenzeMike/status/1342828820949303303
She was featured on Eric July channel

On Timcast IRL

Revenge of the Cis around the 16 minute mark

And this guy’s channel

 

[Grabthar's Hammer]

Today in "people who grossly misunderstand/misrepresent statistics"...