Infected MGTOW - Men Going Their Own Way

[Shaka Brah]

Say what you want about MGTOW. But when faced with getting demonetized or censored on YouTube, they went and made their own version of it that even comes with their own section where they can write articles, and a discussion forum.

Considering the fact that Dennis Prager lost his lawsuit to demand YT be made a public platform, I think it was a smart move on their part foreseeing Sillycunt Valley's increasingly bold tech censorship. Complaining about the tech censorship the way Sinatra Says did, and conservatives calling for platforms like Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube to become public platforms just because they are widely used isn't going to fly in a court of law, particularly not the SCOTUS.

In a way it reinforces the message they have too. You could parse their success as being something like: "when men check out of the system and work on projects for their own benefit, they build things that work." Or something to that effect.

Though I'm surprised a website like that hasn't been shoahed from payment processing already. I guess it's too niche to be worried about, unlike BitChute which hosts more anti-status-quo content.

 

[Electric Pence]

In a way it reinforces the message they have too. You could parse their success as being something like: "when men check out of the system and work on projects for their own benefit, they build things that work." Or something to that effect.

Though I'm surprised a website like that hasn't been shoahed from payment processing already. I guess it's too niche to be worried about, unlike BitChute which hosts more anti-status-quo content.

BitChute is more widely known, and is used mostly by Conservatives and Neo-Nazis; more frequent and well-known enemies of liberals than MGTOWs are. Though lately Conservatives such as Actual Justice Warrior have been taking the website over from the Neo-Nazis who used to dominate the site with their Hitler-worship and Jew-hating.

MGTOW.tv not only caters to a niche community, but MGTOWs themselves mostly still use YouTube or BitChute instead because MGTOW.tv is not widely known about even by their own members. But MGTOW content creators like Turd Flinging Monkey and Sandman will post on both BitChute and MGTOW.tv in order to have their bases covered in case one website (and thus one source of revenue) goes down.

The opinion of liberals on MGTOW seems to vary between the Kyle Kulinski and Vaush types who don't care because it's not stuff they care about (like economics), and feminazis like IrrationalWiki, The Blue Pill, or their god Dave Futrelle who want r/MGTOW, r/MGTOW2, and all MGTOW on the internet to be banned and to censor anyone on the internet who's opinions of men aren't as low as the hambeasts of Jezebel. Hypocritically, they'll tell the MGTOWs to "Go Their Own Way Already!" whilst endlessly obsessing about MGTOWs who complain about things on the internet.

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

Reminder - dumb shit like this is why men feel a need for MGTOW.

 

[Inquisitor_BadAss]

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Reminder - dumb shit like this is why men feel a need for MGTOW.

Translation: Pay for my mistake.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

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Reminder - dumb shit like this is why men feel a need for MGTOW.

The sad part is that the laws in many U.S. states are basically built this way: if you sign a birth certificate or otherwise assume responsibility for the child, even if you later find out the child isn't yours, even with a paternity test, you are still on the hook for it financially, even though it isn't yours. I think California's laws are the worst: if I remember correctly, you have to sign the birth certificate and become responsible for the child before you can even get a paternity test.

 

[Least Concern]

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Reminder - dumb shit like this is why men feel a need for MGTOW.

It's one of the saner MGTOW arguments and one that hits close to home personally - that women are such a protected class in current Western society that a woman can get herself pregnant and then safely assume that Daddy Government and/or any man who mistakenly crosses her path will support her for the rest of her life, or at least a good 18 years. Not All Women, of course, but it's one of the arguments that piqued my interest in MGTOW a few years ago.

Thankfully there was TFM and the dumb shit he spouts to bounce me back towards sanity.

 

[Grumpy]

To be fair to TFM, off the top of my head I can't think of anything of note that MRAs have achieved.

Speaking of which, I'm a bit surprised that no one bothered to make a thread on him, given his very colourful backstory to say the least.

Pretty old post I'm quoting here, but someone just mentioned TFM a few posts up, on Sunday, and it made me wonder if he ever sperged out hard enough to accidentally out himself. I used to watch him for potential lolcow material, but gave up around 2018 when FeedinDaCat was clearly not coming back, and Aeroshogun was clearly the most intelligent person left on his show. It just started to get boring and the fan autism was higher than my tolerance level.

What exactly is his colorful backstory? I remember him always being careful not to reveal his powerlevel, other than being perfectly happy to tell everyone about his dollfucking habits.

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

Translation: Pay for my mistake.

Or, "Be my pag-pig, after I cheated on you." Either way, fuck that noise.

The sad part is that the laws in many U.S. states are basically built this way: if you sign a birth certificate or otherwise assume responsibility for the child, even if you later find out the child isn't yours, even with a paternity test, you are still on the hook for it financially, even though it isn't yours. I think California's laws are the worst: if I remember correctly, you have to sign the birth certificate and become responsible for the child before you can even get a paternity test.

Texas automatically assumes that any child born to a married woman is automatically her husbands', even if it's demonstrably born during separation, and paternity testing shows that it isn't - https://myfox8.com/news/man-ordered-to-pay-65k-in-child-support-for-kid-thats-not-his/

A lot of states have these laws, or fail to have legislation that prevents it.

 

[JaneThough]

Oh shit, I didn't realize all the virgins were hanging in here. I'll see myself out.

 

[Rekkington]

Oh shit, I didn't realize all the virgins were hanging in here. I'll see myself out.

Women really need to figure out another insult, preferably not one invented and popularized by men.

 

[JaneThough]

Women really need to figure out another insult, preferably not one invented and popularized by men.

I am still not going to have sex with you. Go your own way!

 

[Fougaro]

Pretty old post I'm quoting here, but someone just mentioned TFM a few posts up, on Sunday, and it made me wonder if he ever sperged out hard enough to accidentally out himself. I used to watch him for potential lolcow material, but gave up around 2018 when FeedinDaCat was clearly not coming back, and Aeroshogun was clearly the most intelligent person left on his show. It just started to get boring and the fan autism was higher than my tolerance level.

What exactly is his colorful backstory? I remember him always being careful not to reveal his powerlevel, other than being perfectly happy to tell everyone about his dollfucking habits.

I still occasionally listen to him mostly sperging about politics and especially economics. As for his backstory, this is what I remember him disclosing on different occasions. The following is what TFM himself said, so take it with a grain of salt if you wish:

• TFM was born to a typical White trash single mother in a Section 8 housing. His mom was pretty much a whore who had God knows how many children from different men, some of them being clinically retarded. TFM's mother even went as far to literally say that she considers her children to be nothing but meal tickets for sweet government gibs. At one point TFM was abandoned by his mother at his grandparents' place and has ever since then developed abandonment issues.
• Edit 02/01/2021: In a recent episode, TFM went into more detail. Basically his mother's deal was to grift as much gibs from the government by having as many children as possible. To increase the gibs, she would make sure her children are retarded by getting impregnated by drug dealers or other kind of men who lost the genetic lottery. TFM's older half-brother had an inner ear aliment that impeded on his balance, causing him to constantly trip over and hurt his had as a toddler. Instead of seeking a doctor, his mother would deliberately allow the kid to become retarded through all the brain damage so she could get more government gibs. Pretty fucked up if true!
• Edit 02/01/2021: TFM's half-sister is the only one of his silblings who didn't become a complete failure in life as she married a single father. Everyone else is either on welfare or in jail. TFM meanwhile grew up with his grandparents. While he was in high school, his grandfather died from cancer.
• Edit 13/02/2021: In high school most kids would often pick on TFM for being poor and whenever the local bullies would pick on him, he would always fight back. Him constantly getting involved in physical altercations would result in him being suspended or having to move to different schools.
• In high school he was cheated on by his then girlfriend, which is going to be a running gag as every woman he's ever been with ended up cheating on him. After he dumped her and called her a whore, his ex would then falsely accuse him of rape and he had to beg her for forgiveness so that she would stop defaming him. Almost everyone at school, even those he considered friends, turned on him when he was accused of rape.
• For a while, TFM tried to live with his father, who he described more or less as a mangina. TFM didn't get along with his step-mother and eventually had to leave when his father made it clear that he loves his new wife more than his own son.
• During the early and mid-2000s he joined the military, the Navy to be exact and ended up in military intelligence. He was stationed in both Afghanistan and did "two tours" in Iraq while doing mostly Power Point presentations. At some point he became disillusioned with the military after seeing way too many boys fresh out of high school getting literally blown the fuck out by Ahmed and especially when, according to him, Obama replaced all the wartime generals with women because muh diversity quotas.
• I forgot the exact details, but his grandmother once tried to leech off of him financially and that when he was done with her. It is safe to say that he is not on good terms with any of his living relatives. Edit 02/01/2021: Now that I remember, TFM took his grandmother on a trip to Disneyland Florida. When both of them discussed on how to split up the costs, his grandmother would claim how broke she was and guilt trip him to cover the entire expenses. A few hours later when they went to a flea market, TFM's grandmother bought an entire luggage set in front of him in spite of claiming how broke she was. TFM saw this as a betrayal and has since then disowned her.
• Using the GI Bill, he went to college to study something economics related as he has expressed profound knowledge in this field.
• TFM had one girlfriend who he was suspicious of cheating on him. Said suspicions were confirmed when he bugged her phone.
• The last time TFM had an actual girlfriend, he got in a relationship with a fat chick and tried to fix her by helping her lose weight and helping her solve her issues. The moment she actually lost weight and got the attention of other men, she immediately cheated on him. To his credit, he didn't take her back when she was begging for forgiveness.
• He finally lost interest in dating when "Yes Means Yes" became a thing.
• Edit 13/02/2021: TFM used to be part of the Tea Party movement, but became disillusioned with it when he realised that the movement isn't really about small government lolbertarianism, but rather Boomers who want to keep their medicare. Since that he became disillusioned with the American right and politics in general.
• Since 2015/2016-ish he was doing MGTOW videos and sex toy reviews. At some point he got in contact with Phil from the Dollhouse (who did appear once on Rekieta's stream) who donated him the sexdoll "Celestina" to review. Since then he would get too uncomfortably emotionally attached to said sex doll.
• TFM is currently living somewhere in the East Coast in what he describes as a diverse, yet rich neighbourhood.
• Currently he uses his YouTube channel for occasional sex toy reviews, while doing his streams on DLive which he would upload, with all the other khantent, on BitChute and MGTOW.tv. The co-hosts of his streams include "Shogun" - a Chocolate American who sees himself was Uncle Ruckus from The Boondocks but described himself better as someone who prefers bestiality - in particular horses - over lesbian porn, "Kuroi" a weeb who unironically enjoys Re: Zero and even has a low energy monotone autism voice, some Chinese dude they call "George Takei" and the Jew Halsey English who some may know from the IBS days. From what I've seen the co-hosts seem self-aware enough of what they are. In spite of their faults, they don't seem to be as much of flailing spastics as you'd expect, with Halsey being (arguably) even a normie.
• Edit 13/02/2021: Earlier this year, he had a stream with Incelmatics. At some point during the stream (1:24:07) one of the incels starts whining about how his sister is "in love" a convicted violent criminal. TFM tries to explain to him hybristophilia only to be constantly interrupted by the incel's whining, which ultimately resulted in a hilarious screaming match.
• Speaking of DLive, he appeared a few months ago on the Killstream where he had an impromptu Bloodsports (read: e-tardfight) with the Gunt's clinically retarded co-host Randbot.
• Edit 13/01/2021: He got banned from DLive. The exact reasons are unknown, but TFM himself suspects to be part of the social media purge following the storming of the US Capitol on January 6th. Ever since then he is currently silmultanously streaming on multiple platforms such as MGTOW.tv, Trovo, Entropy etc.

That's for now all I can remember. And again, most of it comes from TFM himself so take it with a grain of salt or/and read between the lines.

 

[Least Concern]

Oh shit, I didn't realize all the virgins were hanging in here. I'll see myself out.

Look. The same way that western culture's increasing demonization of wypipo is going to drive some unstable white people towards the alt-right and white nationalism, where their cries of unfair treatment and victimization will be validated and echoed, the demonization of men is going to drive some men towards MGTOW. Maybe instead of ignoring their concerns and demanding that men just constantly "man up" and accept unequal treatment, we could try to recognize and address some of their concerns and work towards a society where such men don't feel so put upon and victimized. Then maybe so many men wouldn't feel like they need something like MGTOW to validate them and their concerns. Maybe calling men names like "virgin" is just making the problem worse.

And if you think this reply means I secretly want to have sex with you, that says a lot more about you than me.

 

[JaneThough]

Look. The same way that western culture's increasing demonization of wypipo is going to drive some unstable white people towards the alt-right and white nationalism, where their cries of unfair treatment and victimization will be validated and echoed, the demonization of men is going to drive some men towards MGTOW. Maybe instead of ignoring their concerns and demanding that men just constantly "man up" and accept unequal treatment, we could try to recognize and address some of their concerns and work towards a society where such men don't feel so put upon and victimized. Then maybe so many men wouldn't feel like they need something like MGTOW to validate them and their concerns. Maybe calling men names like "virgin" is just making the problem worse.

And if you think this reply means I secretly want to have sex with you, that says a lot more about you than me.

If men want to "go their own way" then let them. Problem is, they're not, they're just sitting around bitching about women. Go your own way!

To act like men, who have been in charge of the planet since day 1, are now somehow marginalized is bananas. And you are right about the last bit. It says that I anticipate I will and have had sex, rather than have to swim in the knowledge it'll never happen.,

 

[Least Concern]

If men want to "go their own way" then let them. Problem is, they're not, they're just sitting around bitching about women. Go your own way!

They are. They are discussing how to live society outside of the traditional paradigm. What exactly do you want them to do? Is communication not a part of it?

To act like men, who have been in charge of the planet since day 1, are now somehow marginalized is bananas.

Are there any concerns men may have about their place in modern society which you might give some consideration, or will you only constantly dismiss them out of hand?

And you are right about the last bit. It says that I anticipate I will and have had sex, rather than have to swim in the knowledge it'll never happen.,

I have had sex and made children that my ex-wife has been keeping me and my family from for years. I don't even know where they are right now, only the vague metropolitan area. I could try to get the law involved to fix this situation, but I'd probably be dropping some tens of thousands on a family law attorney just to be laughed out of court. I'd better keep paying that "child support," though.

At any rate, if it's okay to shame men for how much sex they have or haven't had, then it's also okay to shame women for that, right? If we can call men "virgins," then we can call women "sluts," right? You slut.

 

[Grumpy]

Imagine coming into a kiwifarms thread about a lolcow just to shit it up and become a lolcow yourself.

Back on topic:

I still occasionally listen to him mostly sperging about politics and especially economics. As for his backstory, this is what I remember him disclosing on different occasions. The following is what TFM himself said, so take it with a grain of salt if you wish:

• TFM was born to a typical White trash single mother in a Section 8 housing. His mom was pretty much a whore who had God knows how many children from different men, some of them being clinically retarded. TFM's mother even went as far to literally say that she considers her children to be nothing but meal tickets for sweet government gibs. At one point TFM was abandoned by his mother at his grandparents' place and has ever since then developed abandonment issues.
• In high school he was cheated on by his then girlfriend, which is going to be a running gag as every woman he's ever been with ended up cheating on him. After he dumped her and called her a whore, his ex would then falsely accuse him of rape and he had to beg her for forgiveness so that she would stop defaming him. Almost everyone at school, even those he considered friends, turned on him when he was accused of rape.
• For a while, TFM tried to live with his father, who he described more or less as a mangina. TFM didn't get along with his step-mother and eventually had to leave when his father made it clear that he loves his new wife more than his own son.
• During the early and mid-2000s he joined the military, the Navy to be exact and ended up in military intelligence. He was stationed in both Afghanistan and did "two tours" in Iraq while doing mostly Power Point presentations. At some point he became disillusioned with the military after seeing way too many boys fresh out of high school getting literally blown the fuck out by Ahmed and especially when, according to him, Obama replaced all the wartime generals with women because muh diversity quotas.
• I forgot the exact details, but his grandmother once tried to leech off of him financially and that when he was done with her. It is safe to say that he is not on good terms with any of his living relatives.
• Using the GI Bill, he went to college to study something economics related as he has expressed profound knowledge in this field.
• TFM had one girlfriend who he was suspicious of cheating on him. Said suspicions were confirmed when he bugged her phone.
• The last time TFM had an actual girlfriend, he got in a relationship with a fat chick and tried to fix her by helping her lose weight and helping her solve her issues. The moment she actually lost weight and got the attention of other men, she immediately cheated on him. To his credit, he didn't take her back when she was begging for forgiveness.
• Since 2015/2016-ish he was doing MGTOW videos and sex toy reviews. At some point he got in contact with Phil from the Dollhouse (who did appear once on Rekieta's stream) who donated him the sexdoll "Celestina" to review. Since then he would get too uncomfortably emotionally attached to said sex doll.
• Currently he uses his YouTube channel for occasional sex toy reviews, while doing his streams on DLive which he would upload, with all the other khantent, on BitChute and MGTOW.tv. The co-hosts of his streams include "Shogun" - a Chocolate American who sees himself was Uncle Ruckus from The Boondocks but described himself better as someone who prefers bestiality - in particular horses - over lesbian porn, "Kuroi" a weeb who unironically enjoys Re: Zero and even has a low energy monotone autism voice, some Chinese dude they call "George Takei" and the Jew Halsey English who some may know from the IBS days. From what I've seen the co-hosts seem self-aware enough of what they are.
• Speaking of DLive, he appeared a few months ago on the Killstream where he had an impromptu Bloodsports (read: e-tardfight) with the Gunt's clinically retarded co-host Randbot.

That's for now all I can remember. And again, most of it comes from TFM himself so take it with a grain of salt or/and read between the lines.

Fuck, some of this is coming back to me now, maybe I shouldn't have asked. Kuroi is the one who refers to himself as "Hentai Ambassador" in at least one place (discord) right? I could not stand that faggot. Lots of waifuism types like Kuroi in his autistic circle of influence though. And yeah I vaguely recall a few of the stories of TFM, like him being too young at the time to realize his mother was abandoning him, and it only dawning on him years later. Never heard about his grandmother also trying to leech off him. That's really fucked up if true. Also this:

His mom was pretty much a whore who had God knows how many children from different men, some of them being clinically retarded.

And TFM's not one of the clinically retarded ones, right?

 

[Fougaro]

Imagine coming into a kiwifarms thread about a lolcow just to shit it up and become a lolcow yourself.

Back on topic:

Fuck, some of this is coming back to me now, maybe I shouldn't have asked. Kuroi is the one who refers to himself as "Hentai Ambassador" in at least one place (discord) right? I could not stand that faggot. Lots of waifuism types like Kuroi in his autistic circle of influence though. And yeah I vaguely recall a few of the stories of TFM, like him being too young at the time to realize his mother was abandoning him, and it only dawning on him years later. Never heard about his grandmother also trying to leech off him. That's really fucked up if true. Also this:

And TFM's not one of the clinically retarded ones, right?

I actually don't mind Kuroi or any other of his co-hosts to be honest. But fuck me did I end up despising Celestina. "She" would through TTS read out superchats which quickly became annoying. TFM always abruptly interrupting anyone whenever Celestina reads a superchat and address it because "waifu privilege" and thus derailing whatever conversation he had, doesn't help in that regard.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

I actually don't mind Kuroi or any other of his co-hosts to be honest.

Same here, I never really minded his co-hosts. They seem to be a bit more self aware and down to earth about his situation.

 

[Grumpy]

The Celestina donations reading led to a lot of hilarious autistic interruptions, and was a wonderful glimpse into the maturity level of his audience. I know people who were taking TFM seriously got very cross about the worst offenders, but I never expected anything less to happen on such a show.

 

[AvocadoToast]

If men want to "go their own way" then let them. Problem is, they're not, they're just sitting around bitching about women. Go your own way!

To act like men, who have been in charge of the planet since day 1, are now somehow marginalized is bananas. And you are right about the last bit. It says that I anticipate I will and have had sex, rather than have to swim in the knowledge it'll never happen.,

Tbh this thread is boring and plagued. No m*lk and only mgtows jerking each other off.

The virgin meltdown over being called virgin when the thread is already tagged virgin pride is just

At any rate, if it's okay to shame men for how much sex they have or haven't had, then it's also okay to shame women for that, right? If we can call men "virgins," then we can call women "sluts," right? You slut.

Did you think this was an amazing own? That's already the basic male insult . Ugly-woman-who-can't-get-a-man vs dirty slut depending on what's convenient. Imagine being so disconnected from reality that this is news to you.