Inactive Richard "Lowtax" Kyanka - Deadbeat (emphasis on "Dead") founder of Something Awful, forced out of his own community, on his second divorce, stuck his dick in crazy, "Birth Giver"

[northstar747]

They already knew she was in a shelter and instead of axing Dickard, they got her fundraiser shut down to impoverish her and the child. SA is scum.

Whats funny about that is lady ambian was hated for trying to reign in the D&D crew and got stomped on by zen death robot.

They killed the talking about her Go fund me for the "dont doing any soliciting with out mod approval"

The goons didnt like logan ether

But she unlike lowtaxs past wives had no problems reeing like a retard about "muh abuse" and goons recognizing the song of their people had no choice to but to rise up and shit on lowtax

 

[Ghostse]

A couple of pages late, but let’s not rewrite history here, none of that is why they gave him the boot. They finally had so much evidence of domestic assault shoved up their ass that they could no longer ignore it. It had nothing to do with troons or straight white males or any of whatever you’re talking about.

SA has its issues, but finally booting Lowtax for being a woman abusing sack of shit wasn’t one of the things they did wrong. In fact they should have done it six months earlier (when the Ashli shelter news broke), or more.

There was plenty of information about Lowtax being an abuser. It was ignored and, as @AnOminous said, they got his abused wife's go fund me shutdown. They were fine with Lowtax abusing women. What got them to boot him off this time was the simmering FYAD & CSPAM slapfights. Those groups of troons & tards wanted power, and Bogan gave them they excuse they needed at the time they needed it. Only then did Lowtax's "problematic" behavior towards women become a real issue to talk about. Only then did any one posting on the SomethingAwful forums give a shit about the wife he'd abandoned to sniff mormon feet.

Remember, the moderators at SA protected a convicted pedophile for years. They still protected him when information started to come out. Only when a decent number of posters had seen evidence on an off-site forum they could not control did they actually do anything about it, and only at that time did they feel "sick".

 

[kiwilurkin]

Remember, the moderators at SA protected a convicted pedophile for years. They still protected him when information started to come out. Only when a decent number of posters had seen evidence on an off-site forum they could not control did they actually do anything about it, and only at that time did they feel "sick".

I was about to make the old "but enough about the mods/admins that run the place, let's get back to the users!" joke in terms of who the criminal was... but you are talking about a mod/admin being the criminal that was protected. Maybe more than one.

SA was never not a place that was basically lunatics running the asylum.

 

[Ghostse]

I was about to make the old "but enough about the mods/admins that run the place, let's get back to the users!" joke in terms of who the criminal was... but you are talking about a mod/admin being the criminal that was protected. Maybe more than one.

SA was never not a place that was basically lunatics running the asylum.

Yes, I'm talking about former moderator Aatrek/Aaron Nadler, the only confirmed convicted pedophile.

Senior Woodchuck either found kids that could keep a secret or wouldn't be missed, and @HondaRider271 made sure to only date in consent-at-16 states.

 

[The Grognard]

They already knew she was in a shelter and instead of axing Dickard, they got her fundraiser shut down to impoverish her and the child. SA is scum.

Just like with Zoe Quinn, Goons only take the opinions and issues of women with BPD seriously.

 

[AnOminous]

Just like with Zoe Quinn, Goons only take the opinions and issues of women with BPD seriously.

I believe I made that point pretty early, they sympathized with Bogan literally because she was obviously and completely insane enough that they sympathized with her, even though of all of Dickard's abuse victims, she is the one who is most likely to have been just flat-out lying.

 

[Wikipedia Scholar]

I click on Lowtax, and the first thing I see is more of the endless internet debate over religion.

I never got into SA, because I refuse on principle to pay any amount of $ to post on a forum. however, there's no denying that it was an early breeding ground for trolling/anonymous culture. I'm not up to date on the current drama, but it looks like Lowtax pissed away his bread & butter by cucking out to SJWs and their assorted weirdos, abandoning the fan base that supported it over the years. also divorce, lol.

 

[Baggywrinkle]

There was plenty of information about Lowtax being an abuser. It was ignored and, as @AnOminous said, they got his abused wife's go fund me shutdown. They were fine with Lowtax abusing women. What got them to boot him off this time was the simmering FYAD & CSPAM slapfights. Those groups of troons & tards wanted power, and Bogan gave them they excuse they needed at the time they needed it. Only then did Lowtax's "problematic" behavior towards women become a real issue to talk about. Only then did any one posting on the SomethingAwful forums give a shit about the wife he'd abandoned to sniff mormon feet.

This is correct. goons hate white cis women and children. They hated Logan until she became a rallying point for their impotent rage. They are over privileged white kids who squandered all their opportunities (much like lowtax) and are looking for causes to appropriate so they can feel like the powerful heroes in their favorite vidya.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

Goons hate women in general. For some, they remind goons of all the sex they want but can’t have. For others, they have a vagina while the best goons can do is a front butt that requires dialation for the rest of their life. They quickly tossed Koala’s Mooch overboard. I saw more people stick up for aatrek than her.

So yeah, very little sympathy for an actual woman who brought a white baby into this world. Logan also pretended to be queer the whole time so that definitely got her more sympathy.

 

[Wargarbl]

Yes, I'm talking about former moderator Aatrek/Aaron Nadler, the only confirmed convicted pedophile.

Senior Woodchuck either found kids that could keep a secret or wouldn't be missed, and @HondaRider271 made sure to only date in consent-at-16 states.

Or Burt and his creepy pics and thoughts on his own (step?)daughter.

 

[proteus4994]

There was plenty of information about Lowtax being an abuser. It was ignored and, as @AnOminous said, they got his abused wife's go fund me shutdown. They were fine with Lowtax abusing women. What got them to boot him off this time was the simmering FYAD & CSPAM slapfights. Those groups of troons & tards wanted power, and Bogan gave them they excuse they needed at the time they needed it. Only then did Lowtax's "problematic" behavior towards women become a real issue to talk about. Only then did any one posting on the SomethingAwful forums give a shit about the wife he'd abandoned to sniff mormon feet.

I would disagree. Nobody was “fine” with Lowtax abusing women, they just believed him over Ashli because they’re a bunch of stupid hypocrites, and Ashli wasn’t posting anything in her defense (not that she really could on Lowtax’s own forums).

When the Logan news broke, and she was actively posting about it, and screenshots were taken and archives were captured, there was little that the goons could do to ignore it anymore, as much as they’d like to.

You’re not wrong about the troon slap fights going on in the background, and how they used this to gain power, but I think the actual straw that broke the camels back was the fact that they just couldn’t ignore it this time. I read the thread (hell, I posted in it), and at the beginning it was goons desperately trying to ignore it and crack jokes just like they did for Ashli. It wasn’t until archives of Facebook were posted that they started to shut up and take it seriously.

 

[BScCollateral]

I click on Lowtax, and the first thing I see is more of the endless internet debate over religion.

I am in limbo, torn between "I respect serious attention and accuracy in serious subjects" and "Lighten up, he's obviously messing with you."

At least it's not someone claiming the Star Wars prequels really made sense if you think about them.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

I would disagree. Nobody was “fine” with Lowtax abusing women, they just believed him over Ashli because they’re a bunch of stupid hypocrites, and Ashli wasn’t posting anything in her defense (not that she really could on Lowtax’s own forums).

When the Logan news broke, and she was actively posting about it, and screenshots were taken and archives were captured, there was little that the goons could do to ignore it anymore, as much as they’d like to.

You’re not wrong about the troon slap fights going on in the background, and how they used this to gain power, but I think the actual straw that broke the camels back was the fact that they just couldn’t ignore it this time. I read the thread (hell, I posted in it), and at the beginning it was goons desperately trying to ignore it and crack jokes just like they did for Ashli. It wasn’t until archives of Facebook were posted that they started to shut up and take it seriously.

It’s a lot like NeoGAF’s showergate where the tankies and troons used an opportunity to try to take over the forum. In NeoGAF’s case, EviLore told them to fuck off so they made ResetEra. In SA’s case, Lowtax slunk away like a little bitch. Now they have an owner who swears fealty to the girlcock and is more ideologically correct. When Jeffrey doesn’t fondle their balls the right way, they will demand that he turn the forum over to them. Ultimately goons didn’t give a shit about Logan either. If you go back, she got an even more hostile reception than Ashli...until she became useful. It was definitely a coordinated chimpout too because it’s tough for goons to care about anything other than themselves.

 

[Ghostse]

I would disagree. Nobody was “fine” with Lowtax abusing women, they just believed him over Ashli because they’re a bunch of stupid hypocrites, and Ashli wasn’t posting anything in her defense (not that she really could on Lowtax’s own forums).

That's splitting hairs.

Clearly no one was "fine" with a moderator being a convicted pedophile, but any attempts to bring to light the fact they had a kiddie diddler on staff were met with bans and probes until there was enough evidence circulating it couldn't be kept under wraps.

So no one was "fine" with Lowtax abusing women, they simply ignored the mounting evidence while moderation staff ensured anyone talking about it got silenced. Ads were bought, and documents posting, showing police were called to domestic incidents with Maplewife, and the mods took everything down and any discussion stopped with probes and bans.
Which is different from the community being fine with it in critical and important ways.
Ways like _. and _.

Bogan's cause was taken up because it was convenient for the powerhungry, not out of any actual moral indignation. The only difference was someone was ready to take aim at the top this time. Lowtax wasn't caving to troon screeching at an acceptable rate - thanks to him caving on FYAD they knew they could make him dance to their tune.

I am in limbo, torn between "I respect serious attention and accuracy in serious subjects" and "Lighten up, he's obviously messing with you."

I also respect serious accuracy, but there's not getting it and then there's really not getting it, repeatedly. I should have technically used the Synod of Hippo since that's the books were fixed, but as it was a throwaway shitposting joke following up on another shitposting joke, I didn't feel the need to maintain rigorous academic and ecumenical standards

 

[Humble Shitpost Merchant]

It’s a lot like NeoGAF’s showergate where the tankies and troons used an opportunity to try to take over the forum. In NeoGAF’s case, EviLore told them to fuck off so they made ResetEra. In SA’s case, Lowtax slunk away like a little bitch. Now they have an owner who swears fealty to the girlcock and is more ideologically correct. When Jeffrey doesn’t fondle their balls the right way, they will demand that he turn the forum over to them. Ultimately goons didn’t give a shit about Logan either. If you go back, she got an even more hostile reception than Ashli...until she became useful. It was definitely a coordinated chimpout too because it’s tough for goons to care about anything other than themselves.

I really doubt that the average rank and file tried to do a coordinated thing, they're definitely just people who would just ignore a problem as long as it's to their advantage to do so.

The reason why this wasn't allowed to simply fade into the background like it did for Ashli though is because this time the modmins were deliberately fanning the flames. Burt Sexual was able to simply gas the thread and ban all discussion when it happened for Ashli, but by the time that Logan made her accusations Jeffrey was likely scenting opportunity. Which is why instead of being quietly memory-holed like they did for Lowtax's prior abuse allegations, it was stickied on every possible forum as well as the front page.

This sort of petty intrigue goes on all the time with SA's owners. See also the closure of FYAD last January, with now Jeffrey and Literally a Bird claiming that Koala's March was attempting to exploit outrage to seize power, and the fate of FYAD was merely incidental to that. And now KM went from their beloved queen to pariah overnight, while FYAD was always just a misunderstood bunch of good boys who were totally never Nazis. Goons are basically bugmen, they'll fall in line behind anyone with sufficient power and authority. If Lowtax stood his ground and removed all the modmins they'd have fallen in line behind him anyways, abuser or not.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

I really doubt that the average rank and file tried to do a coordinated thing, they're definitely just people who would just ignore a problem as long as it's to their advantage to do so.

The reason why this wasn't allowed to simply fade into the background like it did for Ashli though is because this time the modmins were deliberately fanning the flames. Burt Sexual was able to simply gas the thread and ban all discussion when it happened for Ashli, but by the time that Logan made her accusations Jeffrey was likely scenting opportunity. Which is why instead of being quietly memory-holed like they did for Lowtax's prior abuse allegations, it was stickied on every possible forum as well as the front page.

This sort of petty intrigue goes on all the time with SA's owners. See also the closure of FYAD last January, with now Jeffrey and Literally a Bird claiming that Koala's March was attempting to exploit outrage to seize power, and the fate of FYAD was merely incidental to that. And now KM went from their beloved queen to pariah overnight, while FYAD was always just a misunderstood bunch of good boys who were totally never Nazis. Goons are basically bugmen, they'll fall in line behind anyone with sufficient power and authority. If Lowtax stood his ground and removed all the modmins they'd have fallen in line behind him anyways, abuser or not.

I used to think the same thing too until the RetardEra Discord leaks came out and proved that it was a forum coup attempt on NeoGAF. Not every goon was in on it of course but just enough of them to huff and puff and get enough of the lumpenproles to follow along.

 

[proteus4994]

I guess what I’m saying is that while I absolutely agree that there were people poised to take advantage of Lowtax being unable to stop hitting women, I think for most of the average forum goers who aren’t power hungry weirdos, this was just a bridge too far.

 

[Humble Shitpost Merchant]

I guess what I’m saying is that while I absolutely agree that there were people poised to take advantage of Lowtax being unable to stop hitting women, I think for most of the average forum goers who aren’t power hungry weirdos, this was just a bridge too far.

I think for the most part they're simply indifferent, but pretending to care is an easy way of obtaining social capital and avoiding scorn. They're useful idiots and they know it, and they will always plead ignorance when they 180 over Lowtax or FYAD or any other forums shitshow.

The culture on SA is one that encourages sycophancy and a siege mentality. They simply won't trust or believe anything negative about an authority figure unless corroborated and brought to their attention by someone who is also in authority. They may harbor doubts privately, but being critical about SA publicly is a good way to get singled out and banned.

And they just don't care enough about other people's drama to take a moral stand when it's actually inconvenient to them. It doesn't offer them the high of moral validation and will just signal them out for scorn. And that sort of mindset is at least understandable, but what these people need to realize is that SA itself has long since stopped being anything remarkable or worth caring about and it'd probably be less of a pain in the ass to just focus on something that doesn't revolve entirely around pleasing clout-chasing sociopaths.

 

[Ghostse]

I guess what I’m saying is that while I absolutely agree that there were people poised to take advantage of Lowtax being unable to stop hitting women, I think for most of the average forum goers who aren’t power hungry weirdos, this was just a bridge too far.

I get what you're trying to say, but it was only a bridge too far because the power hungry weirdos at the top allowed it to be. If everyone had their long knives sharpened and ready, you'd have had the same moral indignation for Maplewife if Admins hadn't shut down & swept up discussion.
You're arguing for the morality of the average goon, I am saying anyone still posting on there is either too dumb to be capable of morality or one of the weirdos. The ethos of the community is determined by the power hungry weirdos, regardless of the individuals there in. @Humble Shitpost Merchant got it pretty down. Look at any current moral outrage thread and you'll see goons saying "I always thought that it was pretty gross that we used to ...", but never speaking up about it until it became in their interest to do so.

How many times did Lowtax sob about servers or his spine to solicit donations, crying poverty while driving a leased GTR and ordering $50 apple pies to his McMansion? ZDR's christmas time grift went without comment, and inquiries about Koala's March's "The Colored People Fund" were immediate bans for 'concern trolling' until she was ousted.
Any one of these petty frauds should have been enough to make any competent, sane person sit back and go "wait a minute...." but the collective orwellian social amnesia of the board, aided by the moderation staff, prevented any sort of large scale demand for accountability.

A bunch of elitist sociopaths consistently behave in a exclusionary, sociopathic manner for two decades, film at 11.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk, I'll take my hats now.

 

[proteus4994]

You're arguing for the morality of the average goon, I am saying anyone still posting on there is either too dumb to be capable of morality or one of the weirdos. The ethos of the community is determined by the power hungry weirdos, regardless of the individuals there in. @Humble Shitpost Merchant got it pretty down. Look at any current moral outrage thread and you'll see goons saying "I always thought that it was pretty gross that we used to ...", but never speaking up about it until it became in their interest to do so.

No top hats, this is a fair point. As someone who posted there for a long time, I do tend to give the average user the benefit of the doubt that maybe they’re not part of this idiotic ideology that has taken over the site. And I do know for a fact that there are still a few good posters left. But you’re probably right, the general population is probably shittier than I’m giving them credit for.