Clayton Ray Huff / Dream / DreamOnPvP / DreamTraps / DreamAF / DreamXD / DeltaKnight / DreamSkilful / Clayman23 - Fat Minecraft Youtuber with fans that want to torture and rape him and are in denial that he's fat.

Is JacobTMK the Fatman?

  • Yes! It's a deadringer!

    Votes: 305 13.2%
  • No! That's Dream!

    Votes: 1,713 74.1%
  • It's neither of them!

    Votes: 295 12.8%

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this looks like some shit a wannabe detective would do. Should be pretty obvious why he doesn't accept bitcoin. Bitcoin is really inconvenient and volatile and transferring it into liquid money is, at the moment, difficult and expensive with fees and deductions. Also the price of bitcoin fluctuates so much that someone who may have payed 0.01 bitcoin worth $10 yesterday would have only given $5 today due to the price drops. Bitcoin is just inconvenient and expensive for this type of thing, thats why many major retailers such as Amazon, Best Buy, and Walmart do not accept bitcoin. Also a majority of people don't know how it works or how to buy it so it doesn't make sense to open it up for that small portion of people that do.

e: not a dream stan btw its literally what bezos said himself a while back and it 100% applies here just stating the facts
"Not a Dream Stan. I'm just quoting someone else."

So you tried to sound smart, and then when people called you dumb you passed the buck. Your account is less than 2 hours old, this is not a good start. By the way since no one accused you of being a Dream stan I'm going with yes, you are.
 
I doubt the 400lb planning to hire a personal trainer claim, because at an >50 BMI it would be pretty much impossible to get to a healthy, never mind skinny weight without a shit ton of obvious excess skin. The stans would notice the difference between his and his brother’s bodies too.
Some maybe, some maybe not
 
After reading through these last three pages I'm suing this site for whiplash

The idea of obese Dream is just too hilarious for me - some lard-ass sitting around playing Minecraft to get that teen girl attention while forcing his brother...his BROTHER....to act like him to keep up the illusion that he's the beautiful mysterious boyband twink that all the girls go wild for. Seeing as this guy is praised for "gaming the algorithm" it would be fantastic if he played into the illusion just to get more stans doing weird shit, which would lead to more popularity. He meticulously scripts his manhunt videos, I wouldn't doubt he would do something like make his poor little bro open PO box shit as he talks just to make it look like he has Anime Boy Wrists.

Please God let this be real, I want to see the aftermath of the stan empire once they find out their prettyboy is the compsci kid that makes them gag.
If he was fat a good portion of his stans would probably still find him attractive tbh
 
While I agree that it's improbable that Dream is 400lbs, it always rubbed me the wrong way how he is hiding his face:

There are loads of successful Youtubers who generally don't show their faces, but still have some pics floating around. Be it just a random post on their twitter or pics from collaborations or meet-ups.
And why bother? It's no problem in being some average looking dude in the YT-gaming scene. There are dozens of minecraft youtubers, who are looking average at best and still are raking in millions of views per vid.

One could argue, that Dream just wants to keep his private life out of Youtube. No shame in that.
But then why is he actively creating this whole mystery around his persona? (i.e. the whole smiley mask thing you see in every fucking fanart)

At best the whole thing is a cheap and annoying way to create hype around himself, which is free marketing.
At worst it's an easy way to fuck fans: "Hey girl, wanna see my real face? Let's meet at my home..:" (Not saying, that he's actually doing that stuff, but with what a shit-show gaming-YT has been lately, the thought just comes automatically...)
 
I know I said I was leaving, but there's some things that I need to say.



I do definitely think there was sub-botting involved to keep the momentum going, I just don't know the extent of it.


He got lucky through trend-jacking and now acts like he gamed the algorithm and is a YouTube genius.



I'll agree that's it's certainly "unique", though I would argue on the entertaining part after the next "4 HUNTERS VS SPEEDRUNNER GRAND FINALE OVERTIME REMATCH 3". His first viral video was when he switched from DreamTraps to Dream, he posted said video on r/mildlyinfuriating IIRC and begged for people to watch them, and got lucky. (Though I'm pretty sure he bought upvotes to boost the post lol). The PewDiePie seed stuff was months before the jump video as well. In regards to the PewDiePie seed thing; he took credit for a bunch of other smarter people like EarthComputer writing programs to brute-force the world seed based off of procedurally generated land-marks, then folded hard when they all got pissed at him.

Now onto my main point of contention... The manhunts are faked - reality TV style, let me explain. The earlier manhunts were legitimate but took a lot of tries to film; which is why you'd see George (his faggot Britbong friend) winning a lot of manhunts as well. At the start when Dream was relatively small, they were collaborating for fun and to help each others channels out. However - as Dream made more money, it was only inevitable that George would ask for a cut; since he's half of the fucking video.

Dream agreed, but either George or him decided that since George was being paid now, they'd script the manhunts to a degree. So on they went making videos, scripting them allowed for longer videos with more exciting and "impossible" events and clutches, and to perpetuate the myth that Dream is "the best Minecraft player". (This is despite the fact that he no longer even holds his 1.15 WR in first place, can only shield PvP in 1.9 and is relentlessly bullied for it by 1.9 PvP sweats whilst still somehow managing to be beaten at it, and clicks 7CPS in 1.7/1.8 whilst randomly spamming right-click to "block-hit" because he thinks he's still playing Soup duels on Kohi and wants to do le epic Stimpy refill).

Eventually, through a mix of scripting and adapting to his friends strategies; he ends up at three hunters vs speedrunner. They tried to do it semi-legit a lot of times, but Dream kept getting chased and crit raped. In fact, he uploaded the original take of it to his Patreon and it got leaked:

Around this time - the manhunts started getting scripted heavily to the point there was very little organic content. Unfortunately for our buddy Clayton Ray Huff, a few keen viewers noticed and decided to call him out on numerous suspicious elements, a good example:

Dream claimed it was a "server rollback issue" and that the server totally crashed when he tried to do the /pause command because he needed to go to the bathroom, and not that he fucked up and just wanted to rollback his player-state! For some reason, people bought this and forgave daddy has spent $5k on Minecraft accounts (not a joke). Leading into now, this is my hypothesis for how his manhunts work.

1. A script is written with the rules and events that need to happen at certain points during the manhunt, sometimes including the outcome of the manhunt are posted in their Discord GC.
2. Dream is given a head-start so he doesn't get instantly get cornered and beaten to death.
3. Any deaths or fuck ups caused by Dream himself are met with a rollback to his player-state
4. Scripted events start unfolding
5. To unnaturally extend the length of his manhunts, his friends deliberately throw until about mid-way through nether (you can legitimately see them getting better at around this time in most videos)
6. A conclusion is delivered, either a pre-decided one or an organic one presumably depending on the levels of suspicion at that time regarding his man hunts and the fluctuations in his ego. For example, if he films twice keeps getting beaten when he wants to win to make himself look better, he'll decide that he will win the manhunt. This is especially obvious in some videos.

If you watch through the videos and all of the evidence, this makes the most sense. He only released one unedited man hunt video, where it's very obvious his friends are throwing and could still be following a freeform script off of Discord.

Dream is a huge faggot, and really doesn't have natural talent. He just no-lifes the game and has been doing so since 2014/2015.

To end this post which is way too-long off, here's a Tweet where Dream admitted to pissing the bed at 20 years old.
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I'd also like to point out that there is a high chance that Dream is reading this thread, if you're seeing this Dream; how much did the door replacement cost?
Wow, I appreciate the lengthy and detailed response. I'll take a closer look. If his manhunts are faked into oblivion, there's absolutely zero reason for me to even think about watching a video of his anymore.

Edit: lol wussed out. Cmon, at least show us the bitcoin you got.
 
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While I agree that it's improbable that Dream is 400lbs, it always rubbed me the wrong way how he is hiding his face:

There are loads of successful Youtubers who generally don't show their faces, but still have some pics floating around. Be it just a random post on their twitter or pics from collaborations or meet-ups.
And why bother? It's no problem in being some average looking dude in the YT-gaming scene. There are dozens of minecraft youtubers, who are looking average at best and still are raking in millions of views per vid.

One could argue, that Dream just wants to keep his private life out of Youtube. No shame in that.
But then why is he actively creating this whole mystery around his persona? (i.e. the whole smiley mask thing you see in every fucking fanart)

At best the whole thing is a cheap and annoying way to create hype around himself, which is free marketing.
At worst it's an easy way to fuck fans: "Hey girl, wanna see my real face? Let's meet at my home..:" (Not saying, that he's actually doing that stuff, but with what a shit-show gaming-YT has been lately, the thought just comes automatically...)
Nigger, have you seen his fans? Dream doesn't want to be a chair.
 
The main problem I have with Rooted's info is that they claim the ex has no reason to lie about Dream, that she's being completely truthful. People on the internet shittalk their exes all the time, sometimes seemingly for no reason. It feels like pretty much 70% of internet drama is he-said she-said over ended relationships.

Not saying I completely believe Clayton either when he says his ex makes up a ton of outlandish lies about him, but in the end it just seems like everyone with real info is half blowing it out their ass right now.
 
Dream made another response regarding the speedrun cheating drama.
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The main problem I have with Rooted's info is that they claim the ex has no reason to lie about Dream, that she's being completely truthful. People on the internet shittalk their exes all the time, sometimes seemingly for no reason. It feels like pretty much 70% of internet drama is he-said she-said over ended relationships.

Not saying I completely believe Clayton either when he says his ex makes up a ton of outlandish lies about him, but in the end it just seems like everyone with real info is half blowing it out their ass right now.
I fully believe that she has BPD, but the kind of man who willingly enters a long-term relationship with a BPD woman is guaranteed to be fucked up too. Either they have crushingly low self-esteem and let the woman manipulate them, or they're the kind of man who wants to have power over someone with a personality disorder.
 
"He shares that he agrees that his odds are still low enough to the point where the most reasonable conclusion is that the drop rates were modified (intentionally, or unintentionally), and he shared that in his original report, but shares it more strongly here. I agree." So did you cheat or not, faggot? :story: He's trying to simultaneously say that he's innocent while also acknowledging that evidence shows that he's guilty. It's like watching a robot short-circuit when it's asked for the meaning of life. Except in this case, the robot is surrounded by underdeveloped brains who reassure it, "You're SO right, king!"

And of course, right after posting this lunacy, he has to remind us that he's bigger than Minecraft Jesus.

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Hi my name is Kristen and I've rewrote this letter about 14 fucking honking times but I'm writting this letter to show my appreciation for you and everything you do. Also I'd like to thank you <3

I have cancer and my life isn't a very happy one, especially because my older brother who was 20 at the time died in a car crash in April. So I've been really depressed lately but when I watch your videos and streams it brings me so much joy. I know a lot of people hate on you and don't appreciate how much hard work that you put into your videos but they are stupid buttmunchers and you shouldn't listen to them.

Recently I've been rewatching MrBeast, George, Nick, and your videos and they've been helping me get through the dark days which seem like everyday now. But... yeah. Thank you so much please take care of yourself and be safe please. I love you. Say hi to (?) for me. Please keep doing what makes you happy.

Remember everyone: Dream is out here changing lives. He's the coolest, kindest, most socially impactful gamer to ever walk this earth. Cancer Car Accident Girl said so!
 
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"He shares that he agrees that his odds are still low enough to the point where the most reasonable conclusion is that the drop rates were modified (intentionally, or unintentionally), and he shared that in his original report, but shares it more strongly here. I agree." So did you cheat or not, faggot? :story: He's trying to simultaneously say that he's innocent while also acknowledging that evidence shows that he's guilty. It's like watching a robot short-circuit when it's asked for the meaning of life. Except in this case, the robot is surrounded by underdeveloped brains who reassure it, "You're SO right, king!"

And of course, right after posting this lunacy, he has to remind us that he's bigger than Minecraft Jesus.

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Hi my name is Kristen and I've rewrote this letter about 14 fucking honking times but I'm writting this letter to show my appreciation for you and everything you do. Also I'd like to thank you <3

I have cancer and my life isn't a very happy one, especially because my older brother who was 20 at the time died in a car crash in April. So I've been really depressed lately but when I watch your videos and streams it brings me so much joy. I know a lot of people hate on you and don't appreciate how much hard work that you put into your videos but they are stupid buttmunchers and you shouldn't listen to them.

Recently I've been rewatching MrBeast, George, Nick, and your videos and they've been helping me get through the dark days which seem like everyday now. But... yeah. Thank you so much please take care of yourself and be safe please. I love you. Say hi to (?) for me. Please keep doing what makes you happy.

Remember everyone: Dream is out here changing lives. He's the coolest, kindest, most socially impactful gamer to ever walk this earth. Cancer Car Accident Girl said so!
The only time anyone makes these kind of arguments and sloppy appeals to emotion, they are almost certainly guilty. I mean, we all knew he was guilty but the dude should have just accepted that and moved the fuck on. He makes way more money and has made far more fans doing gay Minecraft RP and banal manhunt episodes than he did speed running.

Then again, this is far more about his pride than actual economic success at this point anyways.
 
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