Official Kiwi Farms Pleroma Server - pt 3: official flagship instance of the fediverse

[freed coffee]

Uploading images to .cc fails out. I wonder if the disk is full? Site was really struggling with the massive spike in traffic.

In other news, Someone published a nice list of all the BASED instances. KF made the list!
https://fediblock.org/blocklist/

based

josh should sell overpriced instances and hosting to his boomer youtuber friends.

 

[ditto]

Are there any plans to add an Onion service?

 

[Faster Than Chris Robin]

Are there any plans to add an Onion service?

There's not much point, Pleroma doesn't store your IP, you don't even need a valid email address to join. Maybe Crunk would add one if you asked.

 

[Dread First]

These last couple of days without the forums actually made me quite fond of Pleroma. Also glad to know I'm in the "based" part of the Fediverse; that certainly made my day.

e: @CrunkLord420 did the new NIC make all the update errors go away? It's been unusually smooth as of the last 10-12 hours.

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

It seems like the Pleroma side of the Fediverse is based as hell, even the ladies at spinster shit on bug men and troons. I don't see much of the Mastodon side of the Fediverse as relaying to them seems broken but I get the feeling they're mainly bug men.

 

[Exsosym]

Pleroma lacks full text search. Trash.

 

[Faster Than Chris Robin]

It seems like the Pleroma side of the Fediverse is based as hell, even the ladies at spinster shit on bug men and troons. I don't see much of the Mastodon side of the Fediverse as relaying to them seems broken but I get the feeling they're mainly bug men.

Replying to them is broken because they all block KF lol

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

Replying to them is broken because they all block KF lol

I rolled my own instance and a few twitter relay bots since i used Twitter only as a news blotter. I'm not blocked from any instance I don't believe but running relays to these Mastodon servers is broken at the moment because of some bug involving spoofed posts because of json or something. I can't find the bug report but it seems that the Mastodon servers just have to upgrade and it will start working again.

 

[Bongocat]

I used to go to twitter to check the feeds of some content creators. Then I lost interest in what they were talking about. Then I only went to twitter to check josh's feed. Now that he's on the fediverse (and I hope he stays there), I have no reason to go to twitter at all anymore.

I'm happy about that. It's a wretched place where even funny posts are made unfunny by the trash fire that's invariably under them.

I also just wanna say that "Alt Tech" is the STUPIDEST fucking branding and I don't know who came up with it or why everybody sticks to it. The name "alternative" implies "not your first choice", or in other words "shit". Jared Taylor said it best when talking about the name "Alt Right": "Being healthy is not an 'alternative' to being sick".

 

[AnOminous]

I also just wanna say that "Alt Tech" is the STUPIDEST fucking branding and I don't know who came up with it or why everybody sticks to it. The name "alternative" implies "not your first choice", or in other words "shit".

I can think of one good thing about it. When I'm looking for something that is not some absolute piece of shit despite being the most popular piece of software for the job I'll usually use "alternative" as a search term because I am looking for something that is not [shitty thing I hate].

 

[Faster Than Chris Robin]

I also just wanna say that "Alt Tech" is the STUPIDEST fucking branding and I don't know who came up with it or why everybody sticks to it. The name "alternative" implies "not your first choice", or in other words "shit". Jared Taylor said it best when talking about the name "Alt Right": "Being healthy is not an 'alternative' to being sick".

I don't have a problem with the term but someone recently gave an explanation that made sense to me for why they don't work. Their leadership usually isn't tech focused, it's entirely politics and marketing, with devs that often aren't qualified to take on the jobs they do (or worse, just a lack of devs in general.)

With Pleroma, most people are hosting because they know how, or they want to have a go at learning, and the moderation policy comes afterward, which Imo is also why the Fediverse caught on with Lefties first, and is only becoming useful as a refuge recently, since more tech nerds lean Left.

 

[Bongocat]

I don't have a problem with the term but someone recently gave an explanation that made sense to me for why they don't work. Their leadership usually isn't tech focused, it's entirely politics and marketing, with devs that often aren't qualified to take on the jobs they do (or worse, just a lack of devs in general.)

On top of that, as we were discussing in another thread, the best communities are ones that stay focused on the content and topic at hand. If you topic at hand is "saying the n word" the only people you're going to attract are politispergs. They're unpleasant to be around no matter what your orientation.

 

[Faster Than Chris Robin]

On top of that, as we were discussing in another thread, the best communities are ones that stay focused on the content and topic at hand. If you topic at hand is "saying the n word" the only people you're going to attract are politispergs. They're unpleasant to be around no matter what your orientation.

I use some alt tech sites and they have a subset of cool people just by the law of probability but the site cultures of alt tech are really obnoxious. Pleroma has a... mostly fine one? Moreso now, it was a lot of tranny FOSS cult stuff until recently.

 

[Bongocat]

I use some alt tech sites and they have a subset of cool people just by the law of probability but the site cultures of alt tech are really obnoxious. Pleroma has a... mostly fine one? Moreso now, it was a lot of tranny FOSS cult stuff until recently.

My understanding of the fediverse (which isn't perfect) is that it's a bit of a midpoint between twitter and discord(esq services). Servers can communicate, but they're more isolated from eachother unlike twitter where every flavor in the world gets melted together until it's one giant, mediocre pile of garbage.

 

[Faster Than Chris Robin]

My understanding of the fediverse (which isn't perfect) is that it's a bit of a midpoint between twitter and discord(esq services). Servers can communicate, but they're more isolated from eachother unlike twitter where every flavor in the world gets melted together until it's one giant, mediocre pile of garbage.

That's not really the idea, it's supposed to function as one cohesive network with the properties of email and Twitter, but the existence of the public timeline sort of skews people towards insularity once an instance reaches a certain mid-range size like the Kiwi server.

 

[Bongocat]

That's not really the idea, it's supposed to function as one cohesive network with the properties of email and Twitter, but the existence of the public timeline sort of skews people towards insularity once an instance reaches a certain mid-range size like the Kiwi server.

Right, that's sort of what I mean. The intention was to have a whole network, but we're seeing how blocklists isolate servers with eachother. That's why I say in practice it errs more on the side of something resembling an isolated chatroom eventually. On twitter you don't have any choice but to deal with them until you whine to the trannies enough for them to banhammer.

 

[Faster Than Chris Robin]

Right, that's sort of what I mean. The intention was to have a whole network, but we're seeing how blocklists isolate servers with eachother. That's why I say in practice it errs more on the side of something resembling an isolated chatroom eventually. On twitter you don't have any choice but to deal with them until you whine to the trannies enough for them to banhammer.

I guess, there are enough admins that don't give AF that blocklists don't really matter. They're just annoying.

 

[robobobo]

So, somebody who's actually studied this whole ActivityPub thing enlighten me, how is this supposed to actually scale? It seems that in order to function, any post from any server must replicate to every other server, since you have users searching/following content being posted by users on other servers. Eventually that's going to equate to massive bandwidth. If there's just a few hundred/thousand servers now it's not a big issue, but in our bright new decentralized future where a billion+ people are trying to use this, how could any node keep up with the traffic?

 

[Faster Than Chris Robin]

So, somebody who's actually studied this whole ActivityPub thing enlighten me, how is this supposed to actually scale? It seems that in order to function, any post from any server must replicate to every other server, since you have users searching/following content being posted by users on other servers. Eventually that's going to equate to massive bandwidth. If there's just a few hundred/thousand servers now it's not a big issue, but in our bright new decentralized future where a billion+ people are trying to use this, how could any node keep up with the traffic?

I'm not an expert and am pretty new to the tech cult, but not everything relays everywhere. There probably are limits below what's ideal, but it doesn't matter yet. What we have works for now and the globe ain't joining tomorrow.

ActivityPub was only adopted by the Fediverse recently, there's no reason to even think this is the final iteration of federated microblogging. Even Twitter is working on a FOSS federated protocol, some other independent people are too. If a better option comes along people will just adopt that one.

 

[Make Anime Illegal]

So, somebody who's actually studied this whole ActivityPub thing enlighten me, how is this supposed to actually scale? It seems that in order to function, any post from any server must replicate to every other server, since you have users searching/following content being posted by users on other servers. Eventually that's going to equate to massive bandwidth. If there's just a few hundred/thousand servers now it's not a big issue, but in our bright new decentralized future where a billion+ people are trying to use this, how could any node keep up with the traffic?

This blog explains it https://blog.soykaf.com/post/how-federation-works/