BreadTube - The Unofficial ContraPoints Dickriders Club and the culture / drama surrounding the community.

Uh... what? I'm pretty sure this is just a basic fact.

They have their own rationalizations for this. For example when you mention famines, they just say that the famines weren't caused by communism (Just forget about Lyssenko, who claimed that plants are communists and killed millions of people because of his superior communist farming system). Sometimes they mention, that capitalism did the same (for example potato famine in Ireland), but, of course, don't mention that capitalism was highly reformed in the last 100 years. So strongly, that in the golden age of capitalism (which WASN'T the globalist free market paradise neolibs think it was. Regulations, tariffs, state intervention and anti-globalism were common after the 2nd World War) countries like Finland had a level of wealth equality, that you normally only find in tribal societies. Communist societies were normally more equal that capitalist societies, but equality meant there that people were more equally poor. Sometimes they take former contries like Yugoslavia (the origin of yours truly) as an example. But Yugoslavia is a terrible example for a socialist country, since it was especially at the beginning very heterodox with its policies (for example no planned economy, but rather a mixed market and planned economy, like South Korea at that time), was much more friendly towards the West (and got a shit ton of money form Western countries) and in general didn't think that it can socially engineer a communist man. This meant, compared to communist countries like China or the USSR relative freedom of religion, no enforced feminism, relative free consumption of Western products etc.
So Yugoslavia was more of a "success" because it rejected rigid communist ideology. Unfortunately this didn't save Yugoslavia, since it was plagued by high unemployment rate and increasing inflation over the years, which ultimately lead to ethnic tensions (that were totally not used by certain Western activists and politicians to destroy the country). There is a good possibility that Yugoslavia would still exist and be a fairly wealthy country, when it would have adopted state capitalism as Singapore or South Korea did.
 
Has anyone been able to succesfully debunk a breadtuber besides the althype? Althype really needs to debate them.
 
Has anyone been able to succesfully debunk a breadtuber besides the althype? Althype really needs to debate them.
Yes, many people from very different perspectives actually. Just to name a few:

Rubble of Empires: Communist YouTuber who thinks that postmodernism and wokeism was invented by the CIA. Shits mostly on troons and how they use questionable data (for example intersex people) to justify their lunacy. He also used race as a reference, since it's a uncomfortable analogy for progressives: "When gender is a social construct and a bearded man can call himself a woman, why can't a white person say he's black and you have to believe him?" Progressives' answer to this are just hilarious, since they can't answer this question. Race is much more a social construct than sex/gender, since it isn't as set in stone, and is strongly influenced by genetics, geographics, religion, language and customs (hence Greeks are considered White, Lebanese not. They're genetically very similiar, but the fact that Greece is in Europe and Lebanon in the Middle East, Greeks are mostly Christian, Lebanese mostly Muslim, Greeks speak a Indo-European language and Lebanese people mostly speak Lebanese Arabic puts them into different racial categories in the Anglosphere). So it makes absoutely no sense that a biological male can call himself a woman, whereas when a white man says he's a black man it's haram (There are more genetic differences between a man and a woman from the same race, than genetic differences between a man and a man from a different ethnic background)
Contra's troon sidekick Riley Roshong actually watched one of his videos and thought that he can easily debunk Rubble of Empires. What happened? Riley Long-Shlong was constantly contradicting himself and wasn't able to attack Rubble substantially. Just think about this. This wasn't a debate, but a debunking video and Riley wasn't even able to properly strawman him. He also makes some short compilation videos in which for example biology and troon expert Xanderhal asks unironically "Wait, what is a gonad?".

The Distributist: Tradcath reactionary. He's fairly intelligent and well-spoken and (I think) genuinely a nice person. Quite different from most other tradcath YouTubers. Some years ago he had a debate with pre-troon Contra. Nyk was even worse in this debate than in his debate with Blaire White, and this says something. He made many videos talking about BreadTube and the progressive left's inconsistencies and also had some debates with known figures like CuckPhilosophy and BadMouseProduction (in both of which the Distributist had the upper hand).

King Critical: A male TERF who actually started with the view that gender is a social construct (some leftists accused him of lying. He showed then several screenshots from some years ago how he actually commented on Contra's videos and how he talked shit about TERFs). He then engaged with TERFs and was actually convinced by them. In one series of videos he deconstructed the video of Contrapoints called "TERF" and showed that Nyk tried to convince his audience that "Terfs are evil" by using emotional manipulation, ad hominems and logical fallacies. He mostly focuses on troon issues, but talks about other stuff as well. He isn't right wing though, so he's probably much closer to BreadTube than any other person I've mentioned here. This, however, makes his critique of troonerism stronger in my opinion, since he's attacking his "own side".

Rod Fleming: Not really involved with debunking BreadTube, but he once made a video about ContraPoints. He's a sex researcher and firmly agrees with Blanchard's typology of homosexual transsexuals (the ones who actually look like women and want to sleep with men) vs. autogynephiles (heterosexual man with a autogynephilic fetish who troon out later in life, they're our Zinnia Jones, Contrapoints and probably soon Ollie from PhilosophyTube). Contra made once a video where he tried to prove that autogypnephilia doesn't exist and he's actually a genuine trans woman. Rod Fleming deconstructed Nyk's video and claimed that Nyk fulfills all the typical signs of an autogynephile.

PSA Stich + Adam Friended: Centrists who frequently watch BreadTube videos and comment on them.


There are of course much more. I didn't include any people like Black Pigeon Speaks, since 95% of right-wing and left-wing YouTube channels are just of poor quality and rarely have a substantial argument that isn't easily debunked. Most substantial videos often deal with troonerism now imo. I think this is because more and more people experience peak troonerism now and just don't believe the shit troons say anymore.
 
Yes, many people from very different perspectives actually. Just to name a few:

Rubble of Empires: Communist YouTuber who thinks that postmodernism and wokeism was invented by the CIA. Shits mostly on troons and how they use questionable data (for example intersex people) to justify their lunacy. He also used race as a reference, since it's a uncomfortable analogy for progressives: "When gender is a social construct and a bearded man can call himself a woman, why can't a white person say he's black and you have to believe him?" Progressives' answer to this are just hilarious, since they can't answer this question. Race is much more a social construct than sex/gender, since it isn't as set in stone, and is strongly influenced by genetics, geographics, religion, language and customs (hence Greeks are considered White, Lebanese not. They're genetically very similiar, but the fact that Greece is in Europe and Lebanon in the Middle East, Greeks are mostly Christian, Lebanese mostly Muslim, Greeks speak a Indo-European language and Lebanese people mostly speak Lebanese Arabic puts them into different racial categories in the Anglosphere). So it makes absoutely no sense that a biological male can call himself a woman, whereas when a white man says he's a black man it's haram (There are more genetic differences between a man and a woman from the same race, than genetic differences between a man and a man from a different ethnic background)
Contra's troon sidekick Riley Roshong actually watched one of his videos and thought that he can easily debunk Rubble of Empires. What happened? Riley Long-Shlong was constantly contradicting himself and wasn't able to attack Rubble substantially. Just think about this. This wasn't a debate, but a debunking video and Riley wasn't even able to properly strawman him. He also makes some short compilation videos in which for example biology and troon expert Xanderhal asks unironically "Wait, what is a gonad?".
Wait? There are commies who are against Breadtube?
 
Wait? There are commies who are against Breadtube?
A majority of actual commies view breadtube with disdain. The main reasons being that they feel that breadtube are at best just ignorant capitalist who want better welfare programs and at worst grifters who don't read the literature and lie to their audience.

It also doesn't help that a lot of breadtubers view the working class with disdain which is pretty much against what communism is supposed to be about.

Edit: I am really excited about the future articles and videos about how breadtube created the communist pipeline though. Or how I was radicalized by breadtube. That'll be peak comedy
 
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Wait? There are commies who are against Breadtube?
As the person before me said. Yes, the majority of genuine communists (if they voted for Joe Biden, they probably aren't communists) are critical of BreadTube or fucking despise it. Communists see them as privileged and spoilt middle class brats who want champagne socialism or are just neoliberal shills who abuse identity politics to disguise themselves as radicals. Some embrace some kind of identity politics, but a lot of them go by the principle of "gay okay, troon away".

This leads sometimes to interesting coalitions, for example like Malcom Kyeune.
He's a Swedish marxist (read: doesn't wannt to say he's a commie) who was suspended from the Left party in Sweden. He's a populist through and through, and this lead even to coalitions with far-right people like Jimmie Åkesson.

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Commies are definitely more interesting than progressives/BreadTubers, even when their ideologies are often very close to madness.
 
So the guy who started out as an edgy-sounding Sargon knockoff who then became a gal & fake nerd, is also a full-on tankie/holodomor denier. Who knew?
I don't know, I don't think he's a tankie type, he's just retarded
Has anyone been able to succesfully debunk a breadtuber besides the althype? Althype really needs to debate them.
He's good at explaining race shit but from what I understand he's not much of a debater. Besides, he's essentially pulled away from youtube and mostly just uploads on bitchute now
A majority of actual commies view breadtube with disdain. The main reasons being that they feel that breadtube are at best just ignorant capitalist who want better welfare programs and at worst grifters who don't read the literature and lie to their audience.

It also doesn't help that a lot of breadtubers view the working class with disdain which is pretty much against what communism is supposed to be about.

Edit: I am really excited about the future articles and videos about how breadtube created the communist pipeline though. Or how I was radicalized by breadtube. That'll be peak comedy
As the person before me said. Yes, the majority of genuine communists (if they voted for Joe Biden, they probably aren't communists) are critical of BreadTube or fucking despise it. Communists see them as privileged and spoilt middle class brats who want champagne socialism or are just neoliberal shills who abuse identity politics to disguise themselves as radicals. Some embrace some kind of identity politics, but a lot of them go by the principle of "gay okay, troon away".

This leads sometimes to interesting coalitions, for example like Malcom Kyeune.
He's a Swedish marxist (read: doesn't wannt to say he's a commie) who was suspended from the Left party in Sweden. He's a populist through and through, and this lead even to coalitions with far-right people like Jimmie Åkesson.




Commies are definitely more interesting than progressives/BreadTubers, even when their ideologies are often very close to madness.
I don't mind leftypol/non-woke commies that much, it's part of the current progressive ideology to be utterly unreasonable as opposed to non-woke commies. But maybe that's just based on what i've personally observed of both varieties
 
isnt this the guy who left one cult only to join a new one
What do you mean?
He's talking about how all these breadtubers talk about how they were "trapped in a alt right pipeline" But pulled out by dumbfuck leftist youtubers or whatever. Breadtube it's self is very cult like.
I don't think he was ever a part of those "in the alt Right and left for bigotry" and IIRC, he is a mormon turned atheist.
 
The Distributist: Tradcath reactionary. He's fairly intelligent and well-spoken and (I think) genuinely a nice person. Quite different from most other tradcath YouTubers. Some years ago he had a debate with pre-troon Contra. Nyk was even worse in this debate than in his debate with Blaire White, and this says something. He made many videos talking about BreadTube and the progressive left's inconsistencies and also had some debates with known figures like CuckPhilosophy and BadMouseProduction (in both of which the Distributist had the upper hand).
Just curious, what other tradcath youtubers are you referring to that you think aren't nice people? Mostly when I watch their stuff they seem to be fine.
 
So i have a question for the breadtube fans what is the point of debating if everyone that a breadtuber faggot debates is a nazi? Why not just jump up and down and save your time by proclaiming everyone who goes against your racist, antiwhite propoganda a nazi?
 
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So i have a question for the breadtube fans what is the point of debating if everyone that a breadtuber faggot debates is a nazi? Why not just jump up and down and save your time by proclaiming everyone who goes against your racist, antiwhite propoganda a nazi?
Because they’re aware that’s how outright SJWs act and they don’t want to be seen that way,
 
Its sad how little engagement he gets on his tweets. Even perpetual sad cow Quintonreviews gets people to engage with his sad posting
Quinton acts pathetic all the time so you kind of pity him. Leon is always on this weird antagonistic state to the point I doubt he can even be happy.
He (Leon)usually blocks people
What a tankie
Quinton by his own admission has blocked almost as much people on Twitter as he has convinced to sub to his channel in the last three months.
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This reminded me that although he was never a part of the main roster, Quinton can arguably be considered one of the few people that made the legit move from Anti-SJW to SJW. Many people even have questioned why he doesn't try to the same type of content of Xanderhal and FaradaySpeaks, constantly mentioning he used to be """redpilled""". Issue is he has, and we all have collectively laugh at him for how obnoxious the grift is.
Every time he tries to dunk on the skeptics, they band together and put him in his place. Last time was late October when Quinton tried to mock the Kekistan Flag group photo and ended up being meme'd on by Mundane Matt, who revealed he had shared a room with during VidCon 2018 and had to tell people to calm down to let him sleep. You know you are low when Bunty King, Jeff Holliday and Mundane Matt can all laugh at you and point out how pathetic you are.
Quinton even made that pathetic video on Contrapoints that by his own admission is shit before VidCon 2019 with the fake hope of proving himself to his senpais just to get a photo with Contra where he doesn't even bother to pretend he wants to be there and Quinton mentioned "he didn't even know who he was".
And now we all are playing a game of waiting to see how many of his "YouTube friends" want to keep associating with him after he got exposed as a needy bitch by his waifus.
 
Quinton by his own admission has blocked almost as much people on Twitter as he has convinced to sub to his channel in the last three months.
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This reminded me that although he was never a part of the main roster, Quinton can arguably be considered one of the few people that made the legit move from Anti-SJW to SJW. Many people even have questioned why he doesn't try to the same type of content of Xanderhal and FaradaySpeaks, constantly mentioning he used to be """redpilled""". Issue is he has, and we all have collectively laugh at him for how obnoxious the grift is.
Every time he tries to dunk on the skeptics, they band together and put him in his place. Last time was late October when Quinton tried to mock the Kekistan Flag group photo and ended up being meme'd on by Mundane Matt, who revealed he had shared a room with during VidCon 2018 and had to tell people to calm down to let him sleep. You know you are low when Bunty King, Jeff Holliday and Mundane Matt can all laugh at you and point out how pathetic you are.
Quinton even made that pathetic video on Contrapoints that by his own admission is shit before VidCon 2019 with the fake hope of proving himself to his senpais just to get a photo with Contra where he doesn't even bother to pretend he wants to be there and Quinton mentioned "he didn't even know who he was".
And now we all are playing a game of waiting to see how many of his "YouTube friends" want to keep associating with him after he got exposed as a needy bitch by his waifus.
Oh my god did someone make a video breakdown of that even
Quinton acts pathetic all the time so you kind of pity him. Leon is always on this weird antagonistic state to the point I doubt he can even be happy.
Leon is the definition of miserable I doubt he feels any emotion probably a psychopath or sociopath
Hell I would go so far that he is a Incel
 
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