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I see the rash is getting worse. The empath needs to take a book from the Hartleys and start photoshopping Luna like Gwen did Lola.
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Jews don’t consider a miscarriage the same as a baby and traditional Jewish mourning rituals do not apply — this holds true up until 30 days after the birth (Jews also tend to be quite permissive on abortion, even the strict ones). They also don’t have baby showers until after the baby is born in case something goes wrong. Not that this doesn’t mean Jewish women don’t grieve miscarriages, of course.Heaven's Gain also sells models of "12 week old babies" as well as some token Jewish stuff (though I've never heard of Jews being kooky about fetuses and miscarriages)
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Now I don't know much about this shit, but I'm pretty sure a 12 week old fetus doesn't look like a fully formed baby only smaller. Aren't they pretty weird and alien looking? Not to mention sticky and red? And I'd imagine one with some fucked up abnormality not compatible with life with look even more unlike a full term, healthy baby.
From everything I've seen, they're past the weird lizard alien stage but not by much. They have really strangely proportioned bodies (really large heads for their size, a thick and short neck, arms and legs are very small conparitively) and are about the size of a roll of film, or apparently a lime, I guess it depends. Regardless they absolutely do not look a fully formed fetus scaled down.Heaven's Gain also sells models of "12 week old babies" as well as some token Jewish stuff (though I've never heard of Jews being kooky about fetuses and miscarriages)
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Now I don't know much about this shit, but I'm pretty sure a 12 week old fetus doesn't look like a fully formed baby only smaller. Aren't they pretty weird and alien looking? Not to mention sticky and red? And I'd imagine one with some fucked up abnormality not compatible with life with look even more unlike a full term, healthy baby.
Pretty racist that I can't buy an Asian pet fetus.Heaven's Gain also sells models of "12 week old babies" as well as some token Jewish stuff (though I've never heard of Jews being kooky about fetuses and miscarriages)
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Now I don't know much about this shit, but I'm pretty sure a 12 week old fetus doesn't look like a fully formed baby only smaller. Aren't they pretty weird and alien looking? Not to mention sticky and red? And I'd imagine one with some fucked up abnormality not compatible with life with look even more unlike a full term, healthy baby.
Yeah I decided to look myself and found a Snopes article debunking a different (but equally inaccurate) 12 week fetus doll. It contained a pic of a real miscarried 12 week fetus and yeah, it did not look anything like the fundie dolls. I apparently was on the mark remembering red, sticky alien. Also they're red because the skin is extremely thin and translucent, so you wouldn't have white or token ethnic 12 week fetuses.From everything I've seen, they're past the weird lizard alien stage but not by much. They have really strangely proportioned bodies (really large heads for their size, a thick and short neck, arms and legs are very small conparitively) and are about the size of a roll of film, or apparently a lime, I guess it depends. Regardless they absolutely do not look a fully formed fetus scaled down.
OBs have access to next tier interventions in seconds or minutes, which beats a midwife assisting at home while her patient bleeds to death or is critically starved of oxygen as the ambulance struggles to get through traffic.No, midwives don't have total control, and OBs don't either. Had Joey Feek known that her baby had Down's, she would probably have delivered in a hospital - I do agree with that.
Then stop watching porn.Wrong. Every sperm is sacred.
If Jews are pretty permissive, I wonder what it is that makes hardcore Bible thumpers think they have to be pro-life?Jews don’t consider a miscarriage the same as a baby and traditional Jewish mourning rituals do not apply — this holds true up until 30 days after the birth (Jews also tend to be quite permissive on abortion, even the strict ones). They also don’t have baby showers until after the baby is born in case something goes wrong. Not that this doesn’t mean Jewish women don’t grieve miscarriages, of course.
. I found a photo of a 10 week miscarriage and it’s horrifying.
Moral superiority. Those dirty sluts deserve it. That’s where you get ‘the only moral abortion is my abortion’. It’s also why most Americans support legal abortion in the case of rape — because it’s not about the baby, it’s about punishment for premarital sex.If Jews are pretty permissive, I wonder what it is that makes hardcore Bible thumpers think they have to be pro-life?
Until the 1970s, 'life begins at conception' was pretty much considered a fringe idea, one that was mainly popular among Catholics. However, once Jerry Farwell began influencing the Republicans, who were courting a lot of evangelicals, it's like they started moving from the idea of 'life or ensoulment begins at quickening (the baby's first movements in the womb) to 'life begins at conception.'
One position allows for abortion up to a certain time, the other considers abortion to be murder.
They used the same Bible, but now they see different things in it. What do they see now that they didn't before, and what justification are they using to adopt a Catholic view, even while some still saying that Catholics aren't 'Christian?'
Yep, it's entirely about using forced pregnancy and childbirth as punishment for percieved sexual transgressions. Women being able to have a sexuality and choose to be anything other than walking incubators squicks fundies out. It's telling prolifers seem to think all women who have abortions are nasty sluts who have unprotected sex with every man they see (when most are normal-ass women in committed relationships, and a good chunk did use some kind of protection).Moral superiority. Those dirty sluts deserve it. That’s where you get ‘the only moral abortion is my abortion’. It’s also why most Americans support legal abortion in the case of rape — because it’s not about the baby, it’s about punishment for premarital sex.
The fetus never even had a birth certificate. I may be wrong but don't you need to at least be born to have a death certificate too?
Which does make me wonder about them, considering that if it was about the baby you would think that they would be encouraging ever more effective birth control, especially anything that prevents conception.Yep, it's entirely about using forced pregnancy and childbirth as punishment for percieved sexual transgressions. Women being able to have a sexuality and choose to be anything other than walking incubators squicks fundies out. It's telling prolifers seem to think all women who have abortions are nasty sluts who have unprotected sex with every man they see (when most are normal-ass women in committed relationships, and a good chunk did use some kind of protection).
While a good chunk of prolifer are indeed ok with it for rape, there are some hardcore extremists like Sarah that think even rape victims shouldn't be allowed to abort their rapists offspring. As far as I'm concerned those types should just move to Saudi Arabia or some other similar oppressive shithole because the US clearly isn't the right country for them. Though I think even Saudi Arabia would allow abortion in the case of a FUBAR inside-out baby.
As for what the Bible says, I'm not Christian but as far as I know the Bible doesn't say a single thing about abortion in specific and treats fetuses and even babies and children as pretty disposable. Seriously, isn't there a shitton of infanticide in the Bible?
I know Catholics are openly not fans of birth control (though I'm sure plenty use it on the down low), but yeah even Evangelical fundies generally aren't fans of it. Shit, they tell kids it has such a high failure rate there's no point in using it. There's a reason states that have abstinence only sex ed have the highest rates of teen pregnancy and shit.Which does make me wonder about them, considering that if it was about the baby you would think that they would be encouraging ever more effective birth control, especially anything that prevents conception.
I am thinking that they are taking some Bible verses out of context, but I don't know enough about the original Jewish meanings to say for sure, I think something about 'Thou shalt not kill' and even that mainly seems to apply to the notion of murder, not killing during wartime or whatever.
Far out. Some of these would make good novelty gifts if they were less expensive.I looked up the company mentioned by the 6 week miscarriage chick. For 50-350 bux you too can buy a coffin for your heavy period.
Most evangelicals and most Catholics use birth control within marriage. If they didn’t, the US birth rate would be enormously high, considering that combined the two groups make up about half the population. I grew up in a heavily Catholic area and I knew very few Catholic families with more than three kids and none with 7+ except one immigrant family (7 is the average number of kids a woman will have without contraception). A Catholic lady near me had 17 kids from the 40s through the 60s and 41 grandkids.I know Catholics are openly not fans of birth control (though I'm sure plenty use it on the down low), but yeah even Evangelical fundies generally aren't fans of it. Shit, they tell kids it has such a high failure rate there's no point in using it. There's a reason states that have abstinence only sex ed have the highest rates of teen pregnancy and shit.
I don't know if evangelicals were always like that though.
So the super special baby becomes a science class specimen instead of being treated with any dignity. If they feel the need to honor their clot, they should dig a hole and plant it with a tree or rosebush or something.Playing with and taking pics of a miscarriage/heavy period in a jar is wholesome fun for the whole family!
What aspect of COVID killed the fetus? It couldn't have gotten pneumonia. That's very interesting. Did it tax the mother's body too much to support the fetus?I just saw a post on another board from a woman who said her friend's grandson and his wife were expecting a baby last fall, and she caught COVID and passed it on to her 20-week-old baby through the placenta, and he died in utero. At 20 weeks, in their state, a death certificate is issued, and this was done for them.
For what it's worth the people here that presented all the abstinence only shit were very probably Mormon. Fundies are non-existent in Arizona and most Catholics are Mexican, but these people (women mostly) were white (non-Mexican), so, Mormon. Or some type of Baptist, possibly.I know Catholics are openly not fans of birth control (though I'm sure plenty use it on the down low), but yeah even Evangelical fundies generally aren't fans of it. Shit, they tell kids it has such a high failure rate there's no point in using it. There's a reason states that have abstinence only sex ed have the highest rates of teen pregnancy and shit.
Maybe the mother wasn't getting enough oxygen and it died because of it, and having COVID itself was irrelevant? I'd like to know myself, this could be important.What aspect of COVID killed the fetus? It couldn't have gotten pneumonia. That's very interesting. Did it tax the mother's body too much to support the fetus?