I Worked On A Right Friendly Social Media Network. It Unsurprisingly Crashed And Burned Immediately.

[Plank]

Bulletpoints:

• Was brought on to help setup a new social media network
• Technically straightforward, not really rewarding from that angle
• People putting up the money were not alt-right crazies. They were very serious about creating a very large social media platform that was for all Americans
• Very strong promises that there would be no banning or censorship based on political beliefs. And none of the silly 'it is only ok when we do it' type censorship on current social media platforms.
• The people putting up the money spent long and hard hours devising ways to structure moderation and rule enforcement that was free from political bias.
• A relatively small set of invites went out to people from all parts of the political spectrum
• The network crashed and burned in a very short amount of time

All those plans crashed and burned immediately.

• No political moderation for many Right posters meant the green light to immediately go full 3rd Reich and inappropriate porn where it had no reason to be.
• Any attempts at to rein in the Right's shit posting memelords was met with howls of 'wHaT AbOuT My fReE SpEeCh???'
• An endless stream of Right posters were banned screeching about how life wasn't fair
• Meanwhile the Left posters immediately started to worm their way into any and every position of authority - no matter how small.
• And those on the Left who didn't work their way into every bureaucratic nook and cranny did their part by 'feeling unsafe' and 'reporting threats - that they took very seriously'
• The Left was like watching some self assembling machine magically come to life, while the Right looked like what happens after a bus full of retarded kids hit a telephone pole

I was astonished by just what a bunch of complete and utter fuckups the Right in general was. I was left with zero sympathy. It has been years that social media has been important enough a force in society for the Right to take seriously and understand how the game is played.

It was shocking to see the difference in the front line troops for each side:

• The Left had an endless number of people who eagerly would jump at the chance to fill and hold on to some tiny bit of bureaucratic/moderating power even if it meant sitting home eating 99cent cups of noodles 24/7 and constantly hitting refresh ready to pounce on the slightest bit of wrongthink
• The Right had an endless number of people who were eager to be Free Speech Martyrs going down in pointless and retarded blazes of self felt glory.

 

[StraightShooter2]

Bulletpoints:

• Was brought on to help setup a new social media network
• Technically straightforward, not really rewarding from that angle
• People putting up the money were not alt-right crazies. They were very serious about creating a very large social media platform that was for all Americans
• Very strong promises that there would be no banning or censorship based on political beliefs. And none of the silly 'it is only ok when we do it' type censorship on current social media platforms.
• The people putting up the money spent long and hard hours devising ways to structure moderation and rule enforcement that was free from political bias.
• A relatively small set of invites went out to people from all parts of the political spectrum
• The network crashed and burned in a very short amount of time

All those plans crashed and burned immediately.

• No political moderation for many Right posters meant the green light to immediately go full 3rd Reich and inappropriate porn where it had no reason to be.
• Any attempts at to rein in the Right's shit posting memelords was met with howls of 'wHaT AbOuT My fReE SpEeCh???'
• An endless stream of Right posters were banned screeching about how life wasn't fair
• Meanwhile the Left posters immediately started to worm their way into any and every position of authority - no matter how small.
• And those on the Left who didn't work their way into every bureaucratic nook and cranny did their part by 'feeling unsafe' and 'reporting threats - that they took very seriously'
• The Left was like watching some self assembling machine magically come to life, while the Right looked like what happens after a bus full of retarded kids hit a telephone pole

I was astonished by just what a bunch of complete and utter fuckups the Right in general was. I was left with zero sympathy. It has been years that social media has been important enough a force in society for the Right to take seriously and understand how the game is played.

It was shocking to see the difference in the front line troops for each side:

• The Left had an endless number of people who eagerly would jump at the chance to fill and hold on to some tiny bit of bureaucratic/moderating power even if it meant sitting home eating 99cent cups of noodles 24/7 and constantly hitting refresh ready to pounce on the slightest bit of wrongthink
• The Right had an endless number of people who were eager to be Free Speech Martyrs going down in pointless and retarded blazes of self felt glory.

If it's basically just a site full of trolls who care more about posting perverted anime than they do about anything political, and would just as soon start posting pro-left propaganda if they thought it "triggered" people more, I don't see how any of it can be considered "right" or even "left" in any remotely credible sense of the word.

This is basically what I call the "social media effect", where pretty much anyone even some weirdo who spends his free time masturbating to Hitler or Stalin porn can create an illusion of relevance by referring to themselves by some fancy schmancy political allegiance.

Also, I fail to understand how you define reporting Neo-Nazis or porn spammers as "left-wing" - most "right-wing" sites that want to remain credible would ban Neo-Nazis from their website, much as they would porn (if anything, it would be the left who would be naturally more tolerant of porn or other "alternative sexual preferences" than the right would to begin with). Same with the far-left idea of extending "frees peach" to anything and everything - including an imaginary "right" to post pornography or obscenity, or the right of the state to force a private business to be a hosting platform for some troll's "frees speech" - those are radical leftist ideas, or basically a communist's take on the interpretation of "frees peach".

I can't see any legitimate "right-winger" identifying with a troll whos only purpose in life is to spam message boards with anime porn - but depending on how far-left you go, said people might be classified as a legitimate "sexual minority/preference/identity" - much as how left-wing LGBT groups like ILGA at one time even embraced NAMBLA or pro-pedophile organizations

 

[Odnovo]

Just imagine how different the outcome would have been if there wasn't a "report" button...

 

[Not Really Here]

No political moderation for many Right posters meant the green light to immediately go full 3rd Reich and inappropriate porn

Neither of those things are right wing.

 

[Johan Schmidt]

Do you mean actually right wing or do you mean lolbertarian? It sounds like you mean lolbertarian.

 

[soy_king]

Do you mean actually right wing or do you mean lolbertarian? It sounds like you mean lolbertarian.

It sounds like stormfags, but yeah, none of this is surprising.

 

[Arm Pit Cream]

Neither of those things are right wing.

everything you say is just straight up embarrassing and dishonest, stop watching youtube for your opinions it's very evident.

 

[Not Really Here]

everything you say is just straight up embarrassing and dishonest, stop watching youtube for your opinions it's very evident.

Post some stories about your blackface PM and stop mooing at me.

 

[Meat Target]

And then everybody clapped.

 

[starborn427614]

People say they went freedom of speech, but really it's freedom from consequences. This is why sites like this never last.

 

[StraightShooter2]

everything you say is just straight up embarrassing and dishonest, stop watching youtube for your opinions it's very evident.

Wanting to masturbate to porn and have it considered an "protected sexual preference/identity" is left-wing, in the same vein as far-left groups that support pedophilia or zoophilia.

Most internet porn would probably be banned as "degenerate art" in an actual fascist regime (which isn't something I'd shed much of a tear over to be honest - having to tolerate the existence of anime porn-addicted freaks isn't exactly one of the positive sides of democratic systems of government).

 

[Cyber Bowling]

Right off the bat, sounds like the project was doomed for failure. There's a not insignificant number of people who see the success of a larger social media site and think, "I'll make this but with X instead."

If that's all the business plan is, it's pretty much doomed to failure, whether it caters to the right or left or whoever else. There's a reason sites like Facebook, Twitter and YouTube haven't been dethroned yet by all the competitors. That isn't to say these sites are unkillable, there's plenty of examples of previously popular sites ultimately falling out of popular use. It's just incredibly hard to have the resources and luck to strike gold.

With social media especially, a big challenge you face is getting off the ground. For many, the main appeal of social media is seeing the number of likes/retweets/views/whatever that represent engagement. New sites simply do not have those numbers, because, well, they're new, so people flock back to their usual haunting grounds. At best, they might crosspost for a little, but they'll commonly start to compare the numbers and lose interest in the smaller one. Plus, there's more engagement, both positive and negative, on the larger platform, so that one continues to get more attention until you forget about the smaller one. And in some cases, people actually want the negative attention to get into arguments, so if you're on a platform largely aimed at one group, you're not really getting that.

There's also the troll issue. If your big selling point is "no/limited moderation" that's an open challenge to a lot of trolls to see just how hard they can push those limits, which in turn leads to a lot of those posts you attributed to "the right". I'd also argue that, in general, if that's your big selling point, you're implying your site is more of an internet playground as opposed to a legit competitor to the big sites. I realize you're only giving an abridged version of whatever the initial founders had in mind, but based on that, it shows they made the same mistakes as all the other people who thought they could easily whip up a social media clone and cash in.

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

You sound incredibly bitchy.
"Not rewarding from that angle"
lol

 

[MemeGrey]

having to tolerate the existence of anime porn-addicted freaks

Is this how black people feel when I say I hate niggers?

 

[Plank]

Another example of just how well the crazies on the Left have their shit together.

There was an effort to let the community be involved with some cosmetic choices for the site. Volunteers were called for to create an informal group to solicit feedback and come up with options.

The groups was immediately filled with mostly your typical SJW activist types eager to jump on even the slight bit of bureaucratic authority. They started combing through people who volunteered social media history and found that one of them had something 'problematic'. They 'kicked' her out even though there was no actual group membership or authority. But they just went right ahead and acted like they had that authority.

They then went on to draft some standard SJW type diversity statement and demanded that their positions were made into permanent paid cultural sensitivity enforcers.

The whole network crashed and burned before that bit of drama managed to unfold.

As to porn, the 3rd Reich, right vs libertarian in the comments above. I'm not trying to be precise with my labels. The only point I am making is just how FUCKING STUPID AND IMPOTENT the Right is when it comes to any sort of social networking.

Yes, in my personal opinion, the highest quality posters were middle right university types. And the left was dominated by SJW/identity politics university types spewing word salads about systemic racism and the like.

But just from a purely high level view of the two groups, the Right are utterly clueless in how to effectively combat the Left's tactics.

It is time for the Right to get a clue and go head to head with the Left's tactics so that there is some sort of mutually assured destruction for both sides and people can actually spend time online having real debates about important issues.

You sound incredibly bitchy.
"Not rewarding from that angle"
lol

Social networks are a solved problem for the most part. There is no new interesting tech needed to be developed.

 

[Odnovo]

Another example of just how well the crazies on the Left have their shit together.

There was an effort to let the community be involved with some cosmetic choices for the site. Volunteers were called for to create an informal group to solicit feedback and come up with options.

The groups was immediately filled with mostly your typical SJW activist types eager to jump on even the slight bit of bureaucratic authority. They started combing through people who volunteered social media history and found that one of them had something 'problematic'. They 'kicked' her out even though there was no actual group membership or authority. But they just went right ahead and acted like they had that authority.

They then went on to draft some standard SJW type diversity statement and demanded that their positions were made into permanent paid cultural sensitivity enforcers.

The whole network crashed and burned before that bit of drama managed to unfold.

As to porn, the 3rd Reich, right vs libertarian in the comments above. I'm not trying to be precise with my labels. The only point I am making is just how FUCKING STUPID AND IMPOTENT the Right is when it comes to any sort of social networking.

Yes, in my personal opinion, the highest quality posters were middle right university types. And the left was dominated by SJW/identity politics university types spewing word salads about systemic racism and the like.

But just from a purely high level view of the two groups, the Right are utterly clueless in how to effectively combat the Left's tactics.

It is time for the Right to get a clue and go head to head with the Left's tactics so that there is some sort of mutually assured destruction for both sides and people can actually spend time online having real debates about important issues.

Like I have implied earlier on, the "report" button is often used and abused in order for one group to have dominance and to control the Overton window. If there was a way in which the "report" button could only be used for things that were actually fucking illegal and antisocial (such as you know what), we wouldn't be seeing this dynamic in play. The current paradigm has the administration of websites cater to those who whine too much, akin to "the squeakiest wheel gets the most grease".

 

[Plank]

Like I have implied earlier on, the "report" button is often used and abused in order for one group to have dominance and to control the Overton window. If there was a way in which the "report" button could only be used for things that were actually fucking illegal and antisocial (such as you know what), we wouldn't be seeing this dynamic in play. The current paradigm has the administration of websites cater to those who whine too much, akin to "the squeakiest wheel gets the most grease".

I agree in theory but in practice it turns out like this:

1. We need a report button to help filter illegal or inappropriate content
2. The Left abuses the report button
3. The Right complains that they are being censored by the report button
4. A committee is created to help ensure the report process isn't being abused
5. The only type of people willing to waste their lives with this type of crap are almost always SJWs
6. The Right complains that these committees are censoring them and that clear and concise rules need to be enforced by these committees
7. The Left has decades of identity politics 'scholarly works' that are ready to go that magically end up censoring the Right but not the Left(it is ok when we do it!)

The Right continue to think that daddy is going listen to their crying about how unfair life is and make everyone play by the rules.

When /r/thedonald got banned from reddit, they ran off with their tails between their legs and created thedonald.win and wasted their time jerking each other off to epic memes and seeing how many times they can repost Trump tweets.

That should have been a wake up call that they didn't have a fucking clue on how to play the social media game effectively and that it is time to learn the Left's highly effective tactics and use them against them.

 

[Odnovo]

Out of curiosity, was it as clear as day that the ones who volunteered to be on the committee were SJWs, or were they more insidious? Because that is obviously the main source of the problem; if there was a way to exclude such people from those committees for the sake of eliminating "political bias" (which is exactly what it is), then those masses would simply be a major nuisance more than anything else, or at least they would have much less power.

 

[Johan Schmidt]

You can't 'use the lefts tactics' against them. There's not enough sad bastards with enough time to devote to admining a niche internet forum. You literally need to build from the ground up with the intention of shutting the left out.

'Free speech' is not going to save you, it will never save you; the 'right' (As in trumptards and their kind) need to stop trying the free speech angle. No one cares, no one has ever cared, no one will ever care about your speech. Most everyone will happily shut you down and agree with each other you need to be shut down because your're mean. Social media sites are dead ends unless they aggressively and vigorously police themselves against anyone left of Trump.

EDIT: What the right 'needs to face' is that the left hates them. Not in a 'man these guys on the right irk me' but as in they literally want you unable to have a functional life and no you will not do anything. The gun LARP holds you back, the '1776 again!!!' call is a LARP; it's a safety blanket you put up because the reality is that you are literally facing the entire material wealth of the western world arrayed against you with the intention of reducing you to a number on a spreadsheet. They don't want you dead, they want you deracinated, living wage to wage and buying the salsa. They will give you a million varieties of salsa to munch down on, but you will be required to buy at least one.

Guns will not save you, weapons will not save you, your camo bag, your ham radio, and your bug out den will not save you. You are an individual facing a collective with a combined might of trillions of dollars, 99% control of the media that most of the population sees and a unified desire to see you lose. Not 'have a fair election' or 'have a debate'. Lose, flat out and on all levels.

You cannot win on their systems, stop trying. The only way to fight a collective is to be a collective. You can cry and moan and bitch and whinge about 'individual liberty' and 'freedom' all you want; no one cares. Move away from the cities if you can, find groups of people to move with; form a community, aggressively police that community against people who are not like you. The government will ship in fifty buses of somalians because they hate you; exclude the somalians. The only way you win this is by convincing more whites (and yes this is a racial struggle, if you disagree then you are not on the right. No this is not a debate.) to join their own side than sit by and do nothing. Your enemy relies on the passivity of the population.

The only methods we have to fight back are by engaging in 'meta-politics' by trying to get our talking points into the mainstream consciousness; and by forming our own exclusionary communities. Buy from each other, accept money from strangers; keep the wealth within your community and use it to improve your community. If you try and fight the government with force then you will be shot by the fed boys, dumped in a ditch and your house will be burnt down while everyone else (even your friends and family) cheers on your death as 'a scary terrorist died!'; and your legacy will be a shitty HBO miniseries where they imply you were gay for a nigger, and a 4chan tard fedposting a picture of you with a black sun behind your head.

 

[Plank]

Out of curiosity, was it as clear as day that the ones who volunteered to be on the committee were SJWs, or were they more insidious? Because that is obviously the main source of the problem; if there was a way to exclude such people from those committees for the sake of eliminating "political bias" (which is exactly what it is), then those masses would simply be a major nuisance more than anything else, or at least they would have much less power.

That question really is the heart of the problem.

1. Something needs to be policed
2. Exactly the wrong type of people are the ones who most eagerly volunteer or find a way to get hired
3. Now we need to police the police
4. See 2.

There simply is no culture on the Right for this type of relentless untiring will to seize any type of authority. No amount of legislation is going to solve this problem for the Right.