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Coronavirus: UK variant 'may be more deadly'
However, there remains huge uncertainty around the numbers - and vaccines are still expected to work.
The data comes from mathematicians comparing death rates in people infected with either the new or the old versions of the virus.
The new more infectious variant has already spread widely across the UK.
Mr Johnson told a Downing Street briefing: "In addition to spreading more quickly, it also now appears that there is some evidence that the new variant - the variant that was first identified in London and the south east - may be associated with a higher degree of mortality.
"It's largely the impact of this new variant that means the NHS is under such intense pressure."
Public Health England, Imperial College London, the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and the University of Exeter have each been trying to assess how deadly the new variant is.

Their evidence has been assessed by scientists on the New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group (Nervtag).
The group concluded there was a "realistic possibility" that the virus had become more deadly, but this is far from certain.
Sir Patrick Vallance, the government's chief scientific adviser, described the data so far as "not yet strong".
He said: "I want to stress that there's a lot of uncertainty around these numbers and we need more work to get a precise handle on it, but it obviously is a concern that this has an increase in mortality as well as an increase in transmissibility."
Previous work suggests the new variant spreads between 30% and 70% faster than others, and there are hints it is about 30% more deadly.
This could just be a sideeffect of it putting way more pressure on health systems, but wait til you see how much worse the excruciatingly slow rollout of vaccines is going to make things by creating stronger variants in addition to the side effects of injecting people with basically untested shit.
 
This could just be a sideeffect of it putting way more pressure on health systems, but wait til you see how much worse the excruciatingly slow rollout of vaccines is going to make things by creating stronger variants in addition to the side effects of injecting people with basically untested shit.
How the fuck would a vaccine, even a faulty one, create a more deadly variant?
 
How the fuck would a vaccine, even a faulty one, create a more deadly variant?

To be fair, if anyone who read about a person getting the non-China-we-promise coof immediately slit their own throat, that would be counted as a pretty deadly variant. So now if we substitute throat slitting with getting in a car wreck while you are driving to get the vaccination due to new variants...
 
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If you thought the deep fried “if you go out people will D I E” ad was as wacky as the Anglo propaganda department could get, y’all ain’t seen nothing yet. I can’t help but notice that the first ad was based on hypothetical dissent (keyword being “if” in that scenario) while the new ones are just straight up assuming everyone is guilty of wrongthink and therefore can’t look the grandads/Karens/token black people they’re LITERALLY MURDERING in the eyes

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If you thought the deep fried “if you go out people will D I E” ad was as wacky as the Anglo propaganda department could get, y’all ain’t seen nothing yet. I can’t help but notice that the first ad was based on hypothetical dissent (keyword being “if” in that scenario) while the new ones are just straight up assuming everyone is guilty of wrongthink and therefore can’t look the grandads/Karens/token black people they’re LITERALLY MURDERING in the eyes

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This is some dystopian shit right here.
 
If you thought the deep fried “if you go out people will D I E” ad was as wacky as the Anglo propaganda department could get, y’all ain’t seen nothing yet. I can’t help but notice that the first ad was based on hypothetical dissent (keyword being “if” in that scenario) while the new ones are just straight up assuming everyone is guilty of wrongthink and therefore can’t look the grandads/Karens/token black people they’re LITERALLY MURDERING in the eyes

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I'm gonna look into their eyes and tell them they are all going to die like a bitch. Fuck this dystopian, emotive bullshit.
 
If you thought the deep fried “if you go out people will D I E” ad was as wacky as the Anglo propaganda department could get, y’all ain’t seen nothing yet. I can’t help but notice that the first ad was based on hypothetical dissent (keyword being “if” in that scenario) while the new ones are just straight up assuming everyone is guilty of wrongthink and therefore can’t look the grandads/Karens/token black people they’re LITERALLY MURDERING in the eyes

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Oh wow, the guilt. What feelings, exactly, are these propagandists attempting to inspire? I'm afraid to tell these people that they are indeed mortal and might die at a biologically advanced age from a disease they might otherwise have survived were they younger and healthier. Particularly if they spent decades growing fat and being sedentary. I certainly don't want anyone to die, but it's going to happen for certain and oftentimes not in a pretty fashion.
 
If you thought the deep fried “if you go out people will D I E” ad was as wacky as the Anglo propaganda department could get, y’all ain’t seen nothing yet. I can’t help but notice that the first ad was based on hypothetical dissent (keyword being “if” in that scenario) while the new ones are just straight up assuming everyone is guilty of wrongthink and therefore can’t look the grandads/Karens/token black people they’re LITERALLY MURDERING in the eyes

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British propaganda is such nasty dystopian shit. The population there must be majorly demoralized.

Coronavirus updates: California's winter COVID surge has passed its peak. What's next?​

I forgot the source now, but it looks like in many areas of the US it peaked in October. Had to keep it up until Trump was gone though.

Current, Deadly U.S. Coronavirus Surge Has Peaked, Researchers Say​

And just like that it was over... for now!
 
British propaganda is such nasty dystopian shit. The population there must be majorly demoralized.
A long time ago I came to the conclusion that the apparatus of government in the UK is still effectively on a war footing, with all the accompanying paranoia, oppression, and authoritarian bullshit that comes along with it - including the manipulative propaganda. It's been this way for so long that nobody working in the system remembers why they do things any more, they just do it because everyone before them did it.
 
If you thought the deep fried “if you go out people will D I E” ad was as wacky as the Anglo propaganda department could get, y’all ain’t seen nothing yet. I can’t help but notice that the first ad was based on hypothetical dissent (keyword being “if” in that scenario) while the new ones are just straight up assuming everyone is guilty of wrongthink and therefore can’t look the grandads/Karens/token black people they’re LITERALLY MURDERING in the eyes

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Can we make the same ads, except replace them with little children in Iraq and Afghanistan
 
A long time ago I came to the conclusion that the apparatus of government in the UK is still effectively on a war footing, with all the accompanying paranoia, oppression, and authoritarian bullshit that comes along with it - including the manipulative propaganda. It's been this way for so long that nobody working in the system remembers why they do things any more, they just do it because everyone before them did it.
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(the experiment never actually happened though)
 
If you thought the deep fried “if you go out people will D I E” ad was as wacky as the Anglo propaganda department could get, y’all ain’t seen nothing yet. I can’t help but notice that the first ad was based on hypothetical dissent (keyword being “if” in that scenario) while the new ones are just straight up assuming everyone is guilty of wrongthink and therefore can’t look the grandads/Karens/token black people they’re LITERALLY MURDERING in the eyes

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Hospitals put your ass on oxygen for anything these days. Or maybe that's just me
 
If you thought the deep fried “if you go out people will D I E” ad was as wacky as the Anglo propaganda department could get, y’all ain’t seen nothing yet. I can’t help but notice that the first ad was based on hypothetical dissent (keyword being “if” in that scenario) while the new ones are just straight up assuming everyone is guilty of wrongthink and therefore can’t look the grandads/Karens/token black people they’re LITERALLY MURDERING in the eyes

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I'd look them in the eye and tell them they have a solid chance of survival thanks to more refined treatment.

Unless they're on ventilators, then I'd tell them to blame the quacks for using a last resort option too soon.
 
Sometimes it's hard to understand scale.
That's true. Many doomers freak out over the latest case numbers, but their eyes glaze over when they're asked if the numbers are trending up, down, or staying relatively level. I blame the replacement of critical thinking skills with indoctrination and cancel culture.

25% occupancy and no more than four at a table. Most restaurants won’t bother.
Back when restaurants had their first reopening here with limited capacity, the local business expert talked on the radio about what capacity is needed for restaurants to break even. I believe it was somewhere between 50-75%, so 25% won't help much. However, restaurant owners still have to chose between staying closed and not making any money, or doing some combination of takeout/25% in-person dining and facing the reality they will still lose money -- often more than most grant and loan programs can cover. It's a no-win situation for restaurateurs that I don't envy.

In-person dining to resume in Michigan on Feb. 1​

And just like that, it was over.
She apparently required winter sports (basketball, wrestling, ice hockey, and cheer) to wait another three weeks to 21-Feb before she decides whether she will finally allow them to have contact practices and competition. All sorts of people from parents to school administrators are becoming more unhappy with her and this decision.

Michigan's director of Health and Human Services abruptly resigned today and was replaced. No idea if the incoming person will be more practical that her predecessor or simply rubber stamp anything Whitmer demands of her. I fear she'll be more of the latter.


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