General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

Grass4Cats said:
Apex Vtuber tournament has ended and here's the ranking from ShibuyaHAL.

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I watched the first round of this from Towa's perspective, basically her team is in danger of becoming the first team to lose that round because Matsuri and Sumire got killed after teleporting. Fortunately, she can respawn them back, but shortly after Matsuri got killed, and well, Towa and Sumire got killed while being sandwiched between the ring and a team, forcing Towa to go out in the open. It's painful to see that, which is why I decided to not watch it. I will probably check the archive tomorrow.
 
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ElUltimoMohicano said:
I think you're getting your wires crossed with how some of us are interpreting callis internet history.

I meant to imply that the vshoujo crowd and the TBAs seems like exactly the type that will buckle to Twitter pressure if people started wanting to unperson calli
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Sorry shouldve replied to thememegreys original post and shitty copout about it. Speculation is fine but the weird vehement hate people have towards calli is grating. Even people who don't like kiara are less annoying about it.

If you want to complain about calli bring something new to the table. Shit is boring and stale. There's lot of overestimation of how stupid karen is when she's honestly adjusting pretty damn well to how hololive works, en route to a million subs with her scheduled endurance stream. A true idiot would've fucked up by now or would never even get the chance to be in holo ala Artemis/Zentreya/TBA/etc.
 
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That's it, I'm pulling the Endless 8 folder.
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The difference between Nyanners' and Gura's voices is that Gura is talking near the bottom of her range (as most people do), while Nyanners is near the top. It's pretty clear when they're singing.
So basically Nyanners is high-pitched on purpose, hence sounding forced, while Gura can in fact go higher if she wants to. Her unique "voice" is probably something natural since it didn't go away when she changed characters, doesn't go away when she's singing, doesn't go away when she's stressed or surprised. For singing that's both an upside and a downside, it gives her a unique edge for sure, but it could restrict her versatility. Definitely she is quite impressive in her singing, though I think she's quite untested overall.

Suisei doesn't seem to struggle with any song in particular (that I could find). Probably puts her as second best singer in Hololive easily, she seems to hold long notes quite well. However, comparisons are quite difficult to make unless you have them all sing the same difficult thing.

As for AZKi it's worth noting that if this profile linked by Deluxe is her, then she's been singing as a job since Gura and probably Suisei were in elementary school. I'm pretty sure that's why her singing technique is better than anyone in Hololive. Most impressively the youtube comments of her songs aren't full of doxfags, she really made a name for herself as a singer rather than a vtuber.
 
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Okite! Okite! Okite! said:
There's doom posting. And then there's MemeGrey's hate boner for Calliope.
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You get used to it. I've managed to filter it out.
MemeGrey said:
Maybe I haven't been entirely clear, I hope you all will cut me some slack as its late and I'm tired but I've been trying to say that she would likely get to collab with Cr1tikal if she joined Vshojou, that she would have more freedom with her character/persona and more time for her music.
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Probably but that also isn't her MO. If she really wanted to do something with Charlie she would. She is still very active as Demondice so that's not entirely out of the question, but she is stretching herself thin by playing into both personas to a degree even if Dice is more or less the "real" her (and real her is a shitposter.)

Gravemind said:
Actually listening to that audio Salte linked pages ago of the podcast that featured Karen (relinking it because I don't feel like digging for the post again), and, wouldn't you know it, Karen actually takes a shot at the original lolcow Chris Chan himself. It's about an hour and 1 minute in. :lit:
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How much you wanna bet she's been on the Farms at soem point, or better yet, MemeGrey is actually Karen and just throwing shade at herself?
honeyorenji said:
Whack how literally the other day forum was praising Calli for shitting on the debut TBA crowd and being no nonsense and now it's back to Karen doomposting with (insert "problematic" screenshot here). All of the doomposting are such reaches, y'all got anything more than screenshots of the n-word from years ago? The whole "she belongs in vshojo" thread of thought is fucking stupid too, it's the same as keeki hate for real. Neither have done anything incredibly spergy since debut other than mixing with the wrong people and they're not stupid enough/limited by cover to let that shit get too far. Idk what's more insufferable anymore, deadbeats or karen doomposters because both are obsessed.
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Only the chans give a shit if you were an asshole 6 years ago and didn't make a concerted effort to change how you were. We don't know much about Karen's upbringing but she did say she lived in a not-so-great neighborhood growing up so she could have been the only white girl surrounded by a bunch of black people and picked up on that shit naturally.
ThatDumbPhilosopher said:
Now I'm intrigued, please do develop your thoughts.
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We went into it back when Vshojo was announced. Basically they're all cunts in one way or another (except Mouse, her fanbase is the issue there) and people were taking bets on when they'd turn on each other.
 
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Stadenwick said:
Fuck calli doomposting, calli thirstposting is where its at.

GOD her hair should have been short like Noel. Where's my autistic tomboy short hair onee-san death gf at, Cover?
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Also, Why is Korone playing Super Mario World again? she actually finished it yesterday

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Takodachi said:
I got 3 things to say about this
-How can someone who plays Apex for so long rank so low on this? I'm talking about Ayame, RBC and Towa.
-Gundou hardcarried Flare and Sara
-I only know 1 of the 3 people on first place, who are the other 2?
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Probably lower skill level + team aspect. Towa has normie sleeping schedule and won't play APEX for 12 hours. Ayame has her health but she's average, despite her simps saying otherwise. IMO all of them are slightly above average with moments of brilliance.

As for the 1st place, here:
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The One And Only SALTE said:
How much you wanna bet she's been on the Farms at soem point, or better yet, MemeGrey is actually Karen and just throwing shade at herself?
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Now, THAT is one hell of an interesting theory. I could get behind this one for the laughs it could generate.

Stadenwick said:
GOD her hair should have been short like Noel. Where's my autistic tomboy short hair onee-san death gf at, Cover?
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And THAT is one hot-as-hell pic. It is amazing how one simple haircut can change a character's appearance and entire aesthetic completely.

darkestraven said:
Just because her name is Karen doesn't mean we need to give her a speak to your manager haircut.
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Don't confuse your short haircuts. The "speak with your manager" haircut's look bangs are longer and parted a bit at the side.
 
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The One And Only SALTE said:
Probably but that also isn't her MO. If she really wanted to do something with Charlie she would. She is still very active as Demondice so that's not entirely out of the question, but she is stretching herself thin by playing into both personas to a degree even if Dice is more or less the "real" her (and real her is a shitposter.)
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Hololive pretty much picked up karen's entire career and gave her a shot at a less shitty/pretty damn decent life in Japan, it's stretching her thin sure but that's just work for ya. Only autistic indies can't seem to find the fine line between their personal life and politics with their personas. If she wanted to pursue something less restrictive as being a vtuber under a company just to shitpost, I guess?? I doubt she'd buckle so soon though especially since it's been a good few months and she's holding up without much notable incident.

EDIT: That shorthaired calli is godtier. Honestly not a fan of the long hair, I had such a different impression of her character based on the design predebut. It definitely suits her awkwardness way more.
 
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Gravemind said:
Anya just laid down the law a bit on her Papers Please stream, telling her chat to fuck off with the backseating. She seems to be ending things here, though. Wonder if it'll get clipped.


EDIT: Timestamp for the VOD is around 2:09:16. "Learn to behave. I'm not as nice as Ollie. Don't try me."
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She's the most sassy around her genmate, i like her. She's even roast iofi height when some chat ask her why she's so tiny.
 
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