General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

I got a question to you all.
Do you believe that Vtubers should not be doxed?
I've been curious about the thread position regarding it.
Past online persona is acceptable and finding their old contents brings insights and could lead to actual discussion. Private information (name, address, phone number, family names) is certainly a no from me as it could harm the VTuber themselves and people around them. I'm against the current trend of posting roommate's videos into YouTube because it's fucking retarded to do so.
 
I got a question to you all.
Do you believe that Vtubers should not be doxed?
I've been curious about the thread position regarding it.
I don't care as long as the vtubers don't find out or freak them out enough to quit. I enjoy the content after all, so fucking with the source seems retarded.

Also I treat vtubers like voice actors. I am invested in the role they're playing and less about their real lives though the two definitely cross. When I'm watching The Last Airbender I'm interested in the story of Aang and the gang, not the voice actors and whatever their personal problems are. I don't get the worship of voice actors and actresses. Seeing their real faces is mildly interesting sometimes, I'm curious is Noel is as voluptuous as her vtuber model (apparently yes), I do wanna see Aki bellydance irl. I'm interested in their previous vtuber or online roles in the same way I'll go to IMDB to see what other roles my favorite actors have played. But the rest.. idgaf. It's like doxing a an actor I recognize or a twitch streamer, it does nothing for me. lolcows on the other hand..
 
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Alright, what is this gay shit? Another excuse for pre-debut TBA indies to publicly circlejerk for exposure?

I checked the tag a bit more and I see a sold string of pre-debuts. Also, this:
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I don't think "merit" exists in these people's dictionaries.
 
I got a question to you all.
Do you believe that Vtubers should not be doxed?
I've been curious about the thread position regarding it.
Pretty much the same as everyone else. Their past lives, such as old personas and work, is already fairly public. Doesn't feel like a dox as much as connecting two personas together. One shouldn't be obnoxious about it, though. Anything more personal than that is a no from me. Considering how abnormally attached a fan can get to their 'waifu' it could potentially endanger them or chase them offline, which are both results I'm not into.
 
I got a question to you all.
Do you believe that Vtubers should not be doxed?
I've been curious about the thread position regarding it.
I’ve always felt that it’s just there, ya know? Like a still pool, no need to disturb the waters. Some of the stuff might tie into their current persona, like Gura’s pre-sen channel shaping her interests as a kid and thus she wouldn’t have watched Iron Giant (which is a movie she mentioned maybe doing a watchalong for). But people asking for the dox should be told to fuck off, no if ands or buts about it. Good thing those accounts don’t seem too interested in the thread.

Right, so this has been on my mind for a while now. It’s nice that the thread is getting more users, but all the in-the-moment reaction and narrative posting is reminding me a bit too much of the chans, which I specifically came here to avoid. Besides muddying up the initial purpose of my lurking here (to see how long chan content takes to leak to the wider internet), it makes the thread less discussion of facts and more just narrative dissection. Which, again, there’s a place for their propagation and extermination. Am I autistic for wanting my internet community cultures to stay separate instead of blending together?
 
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Alright, what is this gay shit? Another excuse for pre-debut TBA indies to publicly circlejerk for exposure?

I checked the tag a bit more and I see a sold string of pre-debuts. Also, this:
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I don't think "merit" exists in these people's dictionaries.
This seems really retarded. Let me brave the sea of idiocy on twitter to look it up a bit

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I checked. It is really is as retarded as it seems. It's just a hugbox trend of indies supporting each other or fucking something. But now because of Pewdiepie using Vtubers model recently, the usual suspects are using it to do the usual to Pewdiepie. Which is funny, since Pewdiepie doing a couple of streams using a model meant way much more than the usual Pre-Debut/Debut TBA crowd doing nothing but grifting clout and slapfight each other
 
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Alright, what is this gay shit? Another excuse for pre-debut TBA indies to publicly circlejerk for exposure?

I checked the tag a bit more and I see a sold string of pre-debuts. Also, this:
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I don't think "merit" exists in these people's dictionaries.
They act as if it's for a noble cause but in reality it's just another way for the trans and gay vtubers to flex their identity. You can erase everything except "gender, sexuality" from the description and the "event" wouldn't change at all.

An indie LTGBQwhatever pre-debuter circle jerk.
 
I got a question to you all.
Do you believe that Vtubers should not be doxed?
I've been curious about the thread position regarding it.
I personally found the action of doxxing to be stalker-ish and very creepy. It's one thing if you found out who's who because Youtube algorithm ratted said vtuber, and another if you try to dig your way to Brazil to found out their real identity and whether they ever show their feet.

And if you do know, well it all came down to what you do with it. Information is like guns, it's what you do with it that can be judged, not the info itself. If you use it for clout chasing or to ruin the vtuber career, then you're a piece of shit, simple as.
 
The eternal pre-debut TBA "vtubers" always annoy me. I stumbled a small indie vtuber a few months back, she sounds like a child and her avatar and thumbnails are hilariously childish and obviously drawn in MS paint. She has almost 2k subs and maybe a dozen or two viewers per stream. But she is actually doing it, she is a legit vtuber and been grinding it out for about a year now. her content isn't my cup of tea, but I respect her dedication. I put her on in the background once in a while just cus.

So less bullshitting on twitter and actually be a vtuber and stream or fuck off. A child can do it. Even a static image as an avatar works, I've seen a Nijisanji guy who mostly seems to use an image as well. Just do it.

 
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I got a question to you all.
Do you believe that Vtubers should not be doxed?
I've been curious about the thread position regarding it.
I don't really care one way or the other. I just think it's interesting to know the person behind the streaming 2D animu girl, and what their motivations and intentions are for what they do. Everybody likes it when they can empathize or sympathize with the talent. Adds that extra little bit of enthusiasm for supporting their endeavors.

That gayops shit can fuck right off, though, even if it just so happens to come part and parcel with the doxxing.
 
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Alright, what is this gay shit? Another excuse for pre-debut TBA indies to publicly circlejerk for exposure?

I checked the tag a bit more and I see a sold string of pre-debuts. Also, this:
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I don't think "merit" exists in these people's dictionaries.
Let's be frank, this is going to be 100% troons and TBAs. Many big-name chuubas are (at least on screen) ambiguously gay or bi, as well as minority (asian) irl, but nobody gives them credit over it. They don't make a big deal of it, so they ain't special.
I got a question to you all.
Do you believe that Vtubers should not be doxed?
I've been curious about the thread position regarding it.
I'd be living up to my username if I said yes, I suppose. Creepy as it were, Gura's past channel videos gave me interesting insight into her voice and her content creation experience. Regardless, the risk to their safety is real, and in many cases they did nothing to deserve it except for literally being too good at their job. I've mentioned before that the issue is not the dox itself, but the legions of tards who don't respect their content or their identity enough to leave well alone once they have it. If not for them I would be fine to discuss and spread it openly, but on the balance of things it's best if hidden things stay hidden.
 
The eternal pre-debut TBA "vtubers" always annoy me. I stumbled a small indie vtuber a few months back, she sounds like a child and her avatar and thumbnails are hilariously childish and obviously hand drawn. She has almost 2k subs and maybe a dozen or two viewers per stream. But she is actually doing it, she is a legit vtuber and been grinding it out for about a year now. her content isn't my cup of tea, but I respect her dedication. I put her on in the background once in a while just cus.

So less bullshitting on twitter and actually be a vtuber and stream or fuck off. A child can do it. Even a static image as an avatar works, I've seen a Nijisanji guy who mostly seems to use an image as well. Just do it.

I for one welcome a ms.paint waifu
 
I got a question to you all.
Do you believe that Vtubers should not be doxed?
I've been curious about the thread position regarding it.
About doxing private address, family, it's big no for me.
Their past work including their video already scattered on the internet before they join vtuber company. If I find and watch it, I don't even want to share it and just keep it those "forbidden knowledge" by myself. Like other said, it's like learn the insight of your favorite vtuber, like Chicken past that make me smh when I found another ridiculous video about her or I finally knew Bubba is, or Moona reason to join hololive is before become comedian. The rest I don't even care at all. Commenting on the video and talk about "oh, this is forbidden knowledge I going too far" is completely dumb for me.

Do you believe vtuber should not be doxed? Ofc, but their past already on the internet for longtime. You totally retard when you autistic doxing them to find their address or family.
 
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I got a question to you all.
Do you believe that Vtubers should not be doxed?
I've been curious about the thread position regarding it.
Like others have said, it comes down to what you consider doxxing. I'm pretty loose with the term, so if it refers to search or exposure of past or present materials outside of a given persona, then sure why not. While I (half) joke that the best way to treat the para-social aspect is like going to a strip club, I also think of a VTuber as somewhere between a voice-actor and a 'local' celebrity (insofar as there is much more interaction with the viewer). So I see no real problem looking into their work or hearing about their lives etc. . . if it is for interest in seeing the development of the content creator. I also believe you shouldn't be an ass about any of that information, in the same way that I find Gossip Tabloids off-putting. Is it cool to know if XYZ has a cat, that YZX is actually that hot, or even that ZXY had real rough go of it after their mom died? Yeah, it can be. Is it cool to monger this information like some moronic would-be-internet god dispensing manna? No, that's sick and sad.

When it comes to what is generally considered proprietary information, I start to draw the line. These aren't 'true' celebrities with wealth, fame, and some power to actually protect themselves from the real crazies, so spreading the kind of information that could be revealing of specifics is not right and more dangerous.

Regardless of any of this, the real problem isn't the curiosity, or hell, even the obsession; it's unwarranted maliciousness. And any time I hear someone (not here but out there) talking about how this 'needs to be known,' or 'the REAL YXZ,' I see a twisted-mirror of all of those cancel-culture buffoons on Twitter.
 
That mini-succubus Vtuber that got ganged up on Twitter because “morals” and whatever hasn’t quite debuted yet, but checking their Twitter, they have shown off a lot of the model, done a few voice recordings and a thank-you video, and apparently have had emotes made for their channel. So even if they’re not streaming yet, they done more than a lot of pre-debuts. No idea if they’ll be good or not, but I kinda want to give them the benefit of the doubt since Twitter tried to cancel them.
 
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