Trainwreck Pamela Swain / DocHoliday1977 / MsPhoenix1969 / Observer1977 / danishlace2003 / Writer_thriller - Victim of grand #MeToo conspiracy, litigious wannabe starfucker, off her meds and online

[DocHoliday1977]

So you're blaming Alicia Vikander of the naked pictures you sent to the underaged girl? That's your story now?

Testimony. And not mine.


Where you involved, Hillary? I think the truth needs to come out.

 

[Whale Spotter]

Michael stop. Stop helping Tony tard cum.

That's not Michael, he doesn't know you exist.

So you're blaming Alicia Vikander of the naked pictures you sent to the underaged girl? That's your story now?

I forgot she did that. That is just vile Pam, you are on your way to emulate Harvey.

Phony Fuck Tony. Bitch please.

I hate to repeat myself but this sounds again sour grapes...

 

[DocHoliday1977]

That's not Michael, he doesn't know you exist.



I forgot she did that. That is just vile Pam, you are on your way to emulate Harvey.



I hate to repeat myself but this sounds again sour grapes...

Hillary. A person has specifically stated that the photo sender wasnt me and named someone else. Do I need to talk/type slower?

Michael, did Hillary do it and call herself mrs. fassbender?

Well don't that beat all.

Hillary Clinton sent fake nudes to an underage girl.

 

[Whale Spotter]

Hillary.

I am not Hilary, again, she doesn't know you exist.

A person has specifically stated that the photo sender wasnt me and named someone else.

Sure Pam, if A Person said, it must be true that it was not you... After all, there are a lot of other schizophrenics there...

Do I need to talk/type slower?

Why would you talking/typing slower have any effect on me Pam? I can't see you type and I can't hear you screech. Thank God for that.

Michael, did Hillary do it and call herself mrs. fassbender?

Michael is not here, he doesn't know you exist. So now it was not Michael's pregnant wife who sent those pictures, but Hilary Clinton?

 

[DocHoliday1977]

I am not Hilary, again, she doesn't know you exist.



Sure Pam, if A Person said, it must be true that it was not you... After all, there are a lot of other schizophrenics there...



Why would you talking/typing slower have any effect on me Pam? I can't see you type and I can't hear you screech. Thank God for that.



Michael is not here, he doesn't know you exist. So now it was not Michael's pregnant wife who sent those pictures, but Hilary Clinton?

No I think it was you, Tony and Harvey. I think you had Fassbender photoshop them and you and Harvey sent them.

I think this was your way to ensure me and Michael wouldn't meet up. Michael was working for Harvey and you were deeply involved with Gerry Butler an sdx stealing his identity.

Fassbender knows that if he doesn't tell the truth, Alicia is in jeopardy. And.

ALL YOU IDIOTS OUT THERE HELPING HARVEY AND TONY.

Congrats to all of you for being the village idiots that you could possibly be for almost a whole decade.

People from India, are so truthful.

 

[Bender]

You should totally go and fuck your gaping asshole Fassbender.

Yeah, you'd be perfect at trashtalking your team in CS:GO, you could make some decent money streaming a couple of times a week as a side-gig.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

I can provide w2 and payroll slips.

You don't want to share such documents with strangers. As they say, money loves silence and if you forget about it you risk attracting people like this:

https://youtu.be/G7EDZpPMk5o

(and I think you attached a screenshot of someone asking for gift cards so I would suggest you watch it whole and pay attention to tactics the Hindu guy is using and how he reacts when challenged by the person trolling him to learn how to recognize when someone tries to get your money)

Look up Erotomania. While the jury is out on it being a specific form of schizophrenia, it is a delusional disorder and Pam hits every symptom, though professes to find the supposed attention unwanted.

Let me play advocatus diaboli here because if nothing else it makes more interesting discussion than page upon page of "U dum" - "No, U"
No first hand experience here but I'm not entirely uneducated in terms of mental health. Fully aware that each case is different I would like to point out that:
- Usually erotomania manifests as imagined secret relationship - either love or love\hate rollercoaster, on some occasions straight line from love to hate due to imagined betrayal. With Pamela it's hate from the beginning.
- Erotomaniacs usually target single individual.
- Stalking usually goes the other way around - erotomaniac stalks and attempts to contact object of his\her obsession, not belief of being constantly persecuted by that person.
Now I may be talking out of my ass but I believe erotomania is often connected with mood swings \ bipolar disorder and level of false beliefs varies over time - no signs here.

I don't doubt you can handle yourself emotionally. Just Pam is very likely to suddenly do a 180 on you.

I doubt people who can't handle themselves emotionally over text and images would find this place appealing in any way The fact I'm trying to be polite here doesn't mean I don't shitpost in other threads if I believe subjects deserve it.

 

[DocHoliday1977]

Yeah, you'd be perfect at trashtalking your team in CS:GO, you could make some decent money streaming a couple of times a week as a side-gig.

Meh.

You don't want to share such documents with strangers. As they say, money loves silence and if you forget about it you risk attracting people like this:

https://youtu.be/G7EDZpPMk5o

(and I think you attached a screenshot of someone asking for gift cards so I would suggest you watch it whole and pay attention to tactics the Hindu guy is using and how he reacts when challenged by the person trolling him to learn how to recognize when someone tries to get your money)

Let me play advocatus diaboli here because if nothing else it makes more interesting discussion than page upon page of "U dum" - "No, U"
No first hand experience here but I'm not entirely uneducated in terms of mental health. Fully aware that each case is different I would like to point out that:
- Usually erotomania manifests as imagined secret relationship - either love or love\hate rollercoaster, on some occasions straight line from love to hate due to imagined betrayal. With Pamela it's hate from the beginning.
- Erotomaniacs usually target single individual.
- Stalking usually goes the other way around - erotomaniac stalks and attempts to contact object of his\her obsession, not belief of being constantly persecuted by that person.
Now I may be talking out of my ass but I believe erotomania is often connected with mood swings \ bipolar disorder and level of false beliefs varies over time - no signs here.

I doubt people who can't handle themselves emotionally over text and images would find this place appealing in any way The fact I'm trying to be polite here doesn't mean I don't shitpost in other threads if I believe subjects deserve it.

Maybe I should talk to you about psychology topics.

I personally was offended by all this nonsense from the beginning. Erks me to no end. The contacting me over and over with every form of digital communication? And Tony and Harvey contacts employers and slanders people!

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

Maybe I should talk to you about psychology topics.

No powerleveling, so I won't discuss my credentials in detail but I think you should know that:
I am not a psychiatrist or a psychotherapist.
While I do have credentials do perform certain kinds of supporting therapy I don't work in the field.
For obvious reasons I will not be sharing documents supporting those claims here.
If you're fine with this and you will keep it in mind when discussing psychology with me - I'll gladly discuss it with you.

I personally was offended by all this nonsense from the beginning. Erks me to no end. The contacting me over and over with every form of digital communication?

I do believe you recieved large amount of verbal abuse, trolling, catfishing, gaslighting (by the way, do you know where this term comes from?) and scam attempts over the years and it's a major factor contributing to your outlook on the world and possibly self-esteem.
What I'll say now may hinder our conversation but I need to say it anyway: you are too trusting. I mean you no harm and am telling the truth to the best of my ability but not everybody on the Internet is.

And Tony and Harvey contacts employers and slanders people!

I don't know the situation with your employers and I don't know if you should describe it in detail in public (you most probably shouldn't).
If I may ask for one thing: I would like it if we avoided naming specific individuals for now.

 

[DocHoliday1977]

No powerleveling, so I won't discuss my credentials in detail but I think you should know that:
I am not a psychiatrist or a psychotherapist.
While I do have credentials do perform certain kinds of supporting therapy I don't work in the field.
For obvious reasons I will not be sharing documents supporting those claims here.
If you're fine with this and you will keep it in mind when discussing psychology with me - I'll gladly discuss it with you.

I do believe you recieved large amount of verbal abuse, trolling, catfishing, gaslighting (by the way, do you know where this term comes from?) and scam attempts over the years and it's a major factor contributing to your outlook on the world and possibly self-esteem.
What I'll say now may hinder our conversation but I need to say it anyway: you are too trusting. I mean you no harm and am telling the truth to the best of my ability but not everybody on the Internet is.

I don't know the situation with your employers and I don't know if you should describe it in detail in public (you most probably shouldn't).
If I may ask for one thing: I would like it if we avoided naming specific individuals for now.

The information I give is crap these turds have told me.

These fools are here to "talk" me out hating them. This is something they'll never do.

 

[OttoWest]

I'm just glad I was never forced to see Michael Fassbender or Tony Robbins naked.

I take it you’ve never watched Shame Pam?

 

[DocHoliday1977]

I take it you’ve never watched Shame Pam?

I don't remember.

 

[LoverofPi]

Testimony. And not mine.

So someone else has testified, in court or under deposition, that Alicia Vikander sent allegedly fake nudes of you to an underaged girl?

Where you involved, Hillary? I think the truth needs to come out.

Neither I, nor Hillary Clinton who is a different person than I am, have ever been involved in sending nudes of you fake or otherwise to any person.

Hillary. A person has specifically stated that the photo sender wasnt me and named someone else. Do I need to talk/type slower?

Michael, did Hillary do it and call herself mrs. fassbender?

Legitimate question, you do not have to give me any details, but the person that gave you this testimony, were they someone you knew ahead of time or a stranger? If the latter, how did they contact you?

Well don't that beat all.

Hillary Clinton sent fake nudes to an underage girl.

I don't think that's a conclusion you can logically arrive at even based on your stated premises, Pam.

No I think it was you, Tony and Harvey. I think you had Fassbender photoshop them and you and Harvey sent them.

I think this was your way to ensure me and Michael wouldn't meet up. Michael was working for Harvey and you were deeply involved with Gerry Butler an sdx stealing his identity.

Fassbender knows that if he doesn't tell the truth, Alicia is in jeopardy. And.

ALL YOU IDIOTS OUT THERE HELPING HARVEY AND TONY.

Congrats to all of you for being the village idiots that you could possibly be for almost a whole decade.

Setting this aside, are you now alleging that Fassbender wanted to meet up with you but was prevented from doing so?

You don't want to share such documents with strangers. As they say, money loves silence and if you forget about it you risk attracting people like this:

https://youtu.be/G7EDZpPMk5o

(and I think you attached a screenshot of someone asking for gift cards so I would suggest you watch it whole and pay attention to tactics the Hindu guy is using and how he reacts when challenged by the person trolling him to learn how to recognize when someone tries to get your money)

This is good advice and I hope Pam takes it to heart.

Let me play advocatus diaboli here because if nothing else it makes more interesting discussion than page upon page of "U dum" - "No, U"
No first hand experience here but I'm not entirely uneducated in terms of mental health. Fully aware that each case is different I would like to point out that:
- Usually erotomania manifests as imagined secret relationship - either love or love\hate rollercoaster, on some occasions straight line from love to hate due to imagined betrayal. With Pamela it's hate from the beginning.

The thing is I do not think Weinstein is technically the primary focus of her erotomania, but Fassbender, who she does have a love/hate relationship with and whom she has intimated a secret relationship on several occasions before walking it back.

- Erotomaniacs usually target single individual.

True, but I suspect Pam is not just an erotomaniac, as she shows many schzophrenic symptoms, specifically the gang stalking variant.

- Stalking usually goes the other way around - erotomaniac stalks and attempts to contact object of his\her obsession, not belief of being constantly persecuted by that person.

Usually but not always. A belief that someone else is pursuing or stalking them is a recognize element of erotomania, and neatly dovetails into her belief that famous people are targeting her.

Now I may be talking out of my ass but I believe erotomania is often connected with mood swings \ bipolar disorder and level of false beliefs varies over time - no signs here.

Erotomania can present in either short burst or as a long term delusion, so that she's remained fixed in her delusions for so long doesn't rule it out.
And yes, I do admit that we cannot technically diagnose Pam specifically with any disorder in such an informal capacity. But you also gotta admit that her behavior is not that of a woman entirely in her right mind.

I doubt people who can't handle themselves emotionally over text and images would find this place appealing in any way The fact I'm trying to be polite here doesn't mean I don't shitpost in other threads if I believe subjects deserve it.

Fair enough.

The information I give is crap these turds have told me.

These fools are here to "talk" me out hating them. This is something they'll never do.

Who told you we were trying to talk you out of hating anyone? Hate me all you like, but hate me for the things I've done as an anonymous shit head, not the things your fevered brain insists a celebrity must have done to you.

 

[DocHoliday1977]

So someone else has testified, in court or under deposition, that Alicia Vikander sent allegedly fake nudes of you to an underaged girl?



Neither I, nor Hillary Clinton who is a different person than I am, have ever been involved in sending nudes of you fake or otherwise to any person.



Legitimate question, you do not have to give me any details, but the person that gave you this testimony, were they someone you knew ahead of time or a stranger? If the latter, how did they contact you?



I don't think that's a conclusion you can logically arrive at even based on your stated premises, Pam.



Setting this aside, are you now alleging that Fassbender wanted to meet up with you but was prevented from doing so?



This is good advice and I hope Pam takes it to heart.



The thing is I do not think Weinstein is technically the primary focus of her erotomania, but Fassbender, who she does have a love/hate relationship with and whom she has intimated a secret relationship on several occasions before walking it back.



True, but I suspect Pam is not just an erotomaniac, as she shows many schzophrenic symptoms, specifically the gang stalking variant.



Usually but not always. A belief that someone else is pursuing or stalking them is a recognize element of erotomania, and neatly dovetails into her belief that famous people are targeting her.



Erotomania can present in either short burst or as a long term delusion, so that she's remained fixed in her delusions for so long doesn't rule it out.
And yes, I do admit that we cannot technically diagnose Pam specifically with any disorder in such an informal capacity. But you also gotta admit that her behavior is not that of a woman entirely in her right mind.



Fair enough.



Who told you we were trying to talk you out of hating anyone? Hate me all you like, but hate me for the things I've done as an anonymous shit head, not the things your fevered brain insists a celebrity must have done to you.

Glad you walked back on the Hillary Clinton bullshit.

Ok everyone. @LoverofPi thinks I have erotomania over Harvey Weinstein. I've just been so enthralled with the essence of Harvey...his attractive charm, his drop dead good looks, and good hearted intentions to honorably help women build a career that he can pull the rug out from underneath.

Let's all say this 1 more time. I supposedly have erotomania for Harvey Weinstein.

Um no. Michael Fassbender didn't want to meet up with me. Harvey did. And I said NO. And I'll say it again. Hell fucking no.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

The information I give is crap these turds have told me.

I mean sharing documents and naming institutions you're associated with in your day-to-day life. In most if not all cases it's smart to avoid doing it.

These fools are here to "talk" me out hating them. This is something they'll never do.

Don't answer if you don't want to but I would like to challenge you a little if we're back on this topic. Why do you think other people are being discussed here on the farms? I mean, some of them are really nasty individuals.
Groomer, abuser and grifter
Right-wing grifter and clout chaser
Left-wing grifter and clout chaser
Even Trump himself has his own thread
...and so do his detractors
Nobody expects you to be nice to people calling you names (hate burns one out; try "disdain") but my point is, not everybody here is after you, not everybody here is a monster, I would be willing to go as far as guessing some people keep fingers crossed for you. Maybe setting some rules of engagement with people online would be a good idea? For example: conditions under which you cut a conversation short for your own mental hygiene.

And back to previous post, do you know where "gaslighting" comes from? This movie:

https://youtu.be/UYmtzaHwCKo

Give it a watch if you haven't, it's public domain.

The thing is I do not think Weinstein is technically the primary focus of her erotomania, but Fassbender, who she does have a love/hate relationship with and whom she has intimated a secret relationship on several occasions before walking it back.

Et tu, brute? I do whatever I can to avoid taking the discussion back to those people.
First mention of Fassbender I found was in "Rats of Cambodia" (I assume pre-thread) and it was mocking him and confirming she doesn't know him. Actually made me chuckle too.

True, but I suspect Pam is not just an erotomaniac, as she shows many schzophrenic symptoms, specifically the gang stalking variant.

Paranoid schizophrenia usually leads to seclusion, not attempts to call out and confront the oppressor. And I stand by what I said: in my opinion Pamela functions far too well for advanced and unmedicated schizophrenia.

Usually but not always. A belief that someone else is pursuing or stalking them is a recognize element of erotomania, and neatly dovetails into her belief that famous people are targeting her.

But not delusion of persecution. For erotomaniacs this stalking is usually sign of obsessive love and reflection of their own deeds thowards object of their obsession, attempt to normalize stalking in their own mind.

And yes, I do admit that we cannot technically diagnose Pam specifically with any disorder in such an informal capacity.

No chance without audio-visual feedback and in a "crowded" place.

But you also gotta admit that her behavior is not that of a woman entirely in her right mind.

I suspect her treatment by the Internet at large is a contributing factor, judging by the screenshots she posts. I'm a calm and rather sane guy (as sane as you may be making an account here ) but during my customer service time there were days when after hours of verbal abuse, threats and absolute hysteria over some trivial matters I wanted nothing but to down a beer and go to sleep.

 

[DocHoliday1977]

I'll let you all know when I plan my stripping naked and running down an airport. I'll claim temporary insanity.

Maybe setting some rules of engagement with people online would be a good idea? For example: conditions under which you cut a conversation short for your own mental hygiene.

I don't respond to personal emails from people I don't know.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

I'll let you all know when I plan my stripping naked and running down an airport. I'll claim temporary insanity.

Sense of humor is a sign of not having schizophrenia

I don't respond to personal emails from people I don't know.

A very good rule! Add "and don't click links in such emails nor open attached files" if you haven't already.
But what I meant you should set some lines that can't be crossed when actually talking to someone - be it by email, on the forum or via SMS and when they are crossed that's end of the conversation for that day.
You are being catfished, so if possible establish ways of confirming identity of the other side when you suspect something like this is happening (voice confirmation if you get some strange text message or some keyword in text-only communication - if it's stupid but it works it ain't stupid).

 

[DocHoliday1977]

Sense of humor is a sign of not having schizophrenia

A very good rule! Add "and don't click links in such emails nor open attached files" if you haven't already.
But what I meant you should set some lines that can't be crossed when actually talking to someone - be it by email, on the forum or via SMS and when they are crossed that's end of the conversation for that day.
You are being catfished, so if possible establish ways of confirming identity of the other side when you suspect something like this is happening (voice confirmation if you get some strange text message or some keyword in text-only communication - if it's stupid but it works it ain't stupid).

All Harvey does is catfish. That's how he hunts for women online. I really had no clue about him at all until he outed himself to me back in 2016. Never had any dreams of Hollywood at all.

Never would have thought about Tony Robbins being apart of it either until he outed himself.


I just don't understand why these men are this obsessed and can't drop it.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

All Harvey does is catfish. That's how he hunts for women online. I really had no clue about him at all until he outed himself to me back in 2016. Never had any dreams of Hollywood at all.

Never would have thought about Tony Robbins being apart of it either until he outed himself.


I just don't understand why these men are this obsessed and can't drop it.

I'd rather not talk about Weinstein and Robbins for now.

I was talking about catfishing and protecting yourself from it in general. Let's say Harvey is a miserable hog who rots in prison where he'll die of old age (also: fuck him for Hellraiser: Hellworld and Hellraiser: Revelations) and life coaches or motivational speakers are almost as pathetic as people who need their bullshit to do anything and I don't want to waste any more of my time on them.

Did you see the original "Gaslight" I linked? I'm curious about your opinion.

 

[LoverofPi]

Glad you walked back on the Hillary Clinton bullshit.

You brought up Hillary Clinton, Pam. In what way am I walking anything back?

Ok everyone. @LoverofPi thinks I have erotomania over Harvey Weinstein. I've just been so enthralled with the essence of Harvey...his attractive charm, his drop dead good looks, and good hearted intentions to honorably help women build a career that he can pull the rug out from underneath.

Well, in this case I said it wasn't him, but even then being in love with the person you believe is in love with you is not the only way erotomania manifests. Believing someone is being stalked and given unwanted attention by the object of delusion is also a manifestation.

Let's all say this 1 more time. I supposedly have erotomania for Harvey Weinstein.

You got something for him, that much is plain as day.

Um no. Michael Fassbender didn't want to meet up with me. Harvey did. And I said NO. And I'll say it again. Hell fucking no.

So Fassbender didn't want to meet with you, but Weinstein et. all. wanted to make sure you didn't meet? Because you said actions were undertaken to keep you and fassbender from meeting.

Et tu, brute? I do whatever I can to avoid taking the discussion back to those people.
First mention of Fassbender I found was in "Rats of Cambodia" (I assume pre-thread) and it was mocking him and confirming she doesn't know him. Actually made me chuckle too.

Pam goes back and forth on her feelings about Fassbender fairly often. Sometimes she's quite fond of him other times angry and dismissive and feeling betrayed by him.

Paranoid schizophrenia usually leads to seclusion, not attempts to call out and confront the oppressor. And I stand by what I said: in my opinion Pamela functions far too well for advanced and unmedicated schizophrenia.

But she does function as one would expect for someone having a gang stalking delusion. These people regularly document and publicize their perceived harassers and call them out directly or indirectly.

But not delusion of persecution. For erotomaniacs this stalking is usually sign of obsessive love and reflection of their own deeds thowards object of their obsession, attempt to normalize stalking in their own mind.

I mean, Pam absolutely obsesses over those she professed obsess over her. Erotomania and Schizophrenia may not be her exact diagnoses, but they're IMO a good place to start in understanding how the obsessions and delusions work.

No chance without audio-visual feedback and in a "crowded" place.

Yeah. And that's not why we're all here in the first place anyways.

I suspect her treatment by the Internet at large is a contributing factor, judging by the screenshots she posts. I'm a calm and rather sane guy (as sane as you may be making an account here ) but during my customer service time there were days when after hours of verbal abuse, threats and absolute hysteria over some trivial matters I wanted nothing but to down a beer and go to sleep.

Certainly people playing into the persecution by pretending to be the very entities she obsessed over are not helping, but Pam seems to want to dive deeper into the world where this is happening, and rejects the world where it is not.