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He could have, if the OS was called "Droid".
There's another story about Android OS, Google couldn't name the next phone of their flagship "Nexus 6" because of Philip K. Dick's story.
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There's another story about Android OS, Google couldn't name the next phone of their flagship "Nexus 6" because of Philip K. Dick's story.
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In the Sith Empire era from old canon its more believable for them to worship the Sith emperor since he's been around for centuries, even if the majority of his subjects have never seen him since the influence and manipulation of his vassals and council exercise his will and tyranny for him. But with Disney, Palpatine is still only starting out in a sense, and the closest thing he had to worshipers in old canon are a personality cult of fanatics, of which only exist in his inner circles, elites and inquisitors, and have seen his abilities and goals firsthand while being indoctrinated into his beliefs. Meanwhile in Disney, the face of the Empire is some old hag from the Dr. Aphra shit, so there's even less reason to worship him by the populace.
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So remind me again... because I legit can't remember how this shitty High Republic thing was supposed to go:
You start with the story by graffiti on a dumpster, I mean a YA novel. Then you have to fucking buy a bird cage liner, I mean a comic to continue the story. Then does it switch back to book or does it go to North Korean film, I mean shitty CGI show?
I can't remember because despite how they pushed it I saw no hype beyond what they paid for. It had all the impact of a mildly wet fart online. Hell, it's pretty likely it only came back because they need to lie to their investors for this quarter.
Seriously, Lucasfilms did this better in the 1990s with that media project where you didn't have to buy them all tbh.
You start with the story by graffiti on a dumpster, I mean a YA novel. Then you have to fucking buy a bird cage liner, I mean a comic to continue the story. Then does it switch back to book or does it go to North Korean film, I mean shitty CGI show?
I can't remember because despite how they pushed it I saw no hype beyond what they paid for. It had all the impact of a mildly wet fart online. Hell, it's pretty likely it only came back because they need to lie to their investors for this quarter.
Seriously, Lucasfilms did this better in the 1990s with that media project where you didn't have to buy them all tbh.
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Its hard to keep track, but so far...
Its 8 books (potentially up to 12 and more by 2022 and beyond when they enter phase 2) which will be released under Disney-Lucasfilm Press, Del Rey and Abrams Books, plus 3 short stories which you can only read via separate Magazine releases, two separate comic runs by Marvel and IDW, a Disney+ show, a supposed animated show (might be the Disney+ show), two other unknown projects, and one Chinese-exclusive story which takes place at the end of the High Republic with no intention of releasing it outside of China. And its all necessary to follow the plot and know how it ends, which is why they started the 420 Republic web show starring that twitter BLM warrior to "keep fans informed and let them know what's going on".
For comparison, the New Jedi Order project was limited to one book series under a single publisher with only a Dark Horse comic run that served as a side story that could be read independently from the novels. And with Shadows of the Empire it was only one game, one novel and one comic run, where you didn't really need all of them (considering they were mostly adaptations of the same story with some bonus content) to get the whole story. Disney did the same thing they're doing with High Republic with the "Journey to" shit used for the sequels. Only pre-Disney multimedia project that come close to High Republic in sheer content are the bloated Attack of the Clones tie-ins (and Filoni Wars shit if we don't count it separately) but those were at least tie-ins for a major motion picture, not tie-ins for a tie-in to something that doesn't even exist just for the sake of having tie-ins to make up for the fact that their attempted efforts at making a new trilogy after their horrid sequels blew up in their faces as JJ and Rian kept fanning the flames and Game of Thrones' D&D jumped ship from their trilogy project after realizing that Disney put them on a sinking dumpster fire.
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The early Android commericals had "Droid is copyright Lucasfilm, Ltd" small text in the bottom. So they settled before paperwork was filed.
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I don't mean to be pedantic but Shadows was two comic runs. SOTE and SOTE Evolution.
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Well sheeit that's dumber than I thought.
At least with Shadows you could play games or read the books that came out for it and still not be utterly confused.
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Which you didn't have to buy multiples of to enjoy a story. Also there was one product out of the lot that was the main force they focused on.
Disney's not doing that, and is instead being as dumb as you can be with a project.
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Despite the branding I usually tend to treat SOTE:E separately since its not really relevant to the main story of SOTE and takes place after the original SOTE and ROTJ as a sort of epilogue of what became of the Black Sun and Guri. That and it was released 2 years after SOTE's story reached its conclusion.
The book and comic were basically just adaptations of the game with some minor bonuses that aren't in the least bit mandatory though to getting the whole story. You can pretty much read the comic without playing the game or vice versa.
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I honestly prefer the book of TFU to the game, but I didn't like the story, characters, or retcon in general.
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I HAVE RETURNED! Although, for clarity's sake, I'm just here to drop two cents.
Old Lucasarts is more than OK with you just engaging with a single piece of work. For example, I have both the Force Unleashed comic and the game, but you don't need one to understand the latter. Both are well-rounded works that can be taken in and enjoyed on their own.
And for those who bitch about how Force Unleashed made the Force too OP, they clearly never read the Tales of the Jedi or the Dark Empire comics, or played the KOTOR games where Sith can be far deadlier. Pulling down a Star Destroyer from the sky is small potatoes compared to annihilating all life on a planet with just the Force, so if anything, Force Unleashed was a tad bit more tame than the KOTOR games.
Disney's making the same mistake 343 Industries made with Halo. Halos 4 and 5 had a lot of shit that people didn't understand because they didn't read the books and comics that came out before Halos 4 and 5 hit store shelves. The result was that many fans were left wondering what the hell things like the Domain were, or why the Forerunners and the humans were not the same species, when the original Halo trilogy insisted that they were.
Old Lucasarts is more than OK with you just engaging with a single piece of work. For example, I have both the Force Unleashed comic and the game, but you don't need one to understand the latter. Both are well-rounded works that can be taken in and enjoyed on their own.
And for those who bitch about how Force Unleashed made the Force too OP, they clearly never read the Tales of the Jedi or the Dark Empire comics, or played the KOTOR games where Sith can be far deadlier. Pulling down a Star Destroyer from the sky is small potatoes compared to annihilating all life on a planet with just the Force, so if anything, Force Unleashed was a tad bit more tame than the KOTOR games.
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Pulling down the Star Destroyer was awesome cinematically and story wise, but mechanically sucked in the game. I don't think it was OP, Galen just sucked as a protagonist. He never ingrained himself or gave me a reason to give a shit about him. The shape shifting droid had more personality than him imo.
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Gameplay-wise, don't trust the on-screen prompts. I just twist the ISD whatever way I see fit before the prompt changes to pulling it down. It was its own weird boss fight, in a way, since Proxy!Maul wasn't that hard at all.
Galen Marek is basically just another typical 2000s protagonist. Like Master Chief and several others before him, he's just meant to be someone you imagine yourself to be. Someone relatable or sympathetic. He's just the stereotypical good guy stuck in a bad situation. Even as a Sith he wasn't convincing. He sounded more evil in the Soulcalibur IV crossover than he did in the actual Force Unleashed game, where he came off as just some loyal attack dog/abused puppy. He didn't properly become evil outside of the Dark Side DLC missions where he really was evil, like when he was chomping at the bit to kill Old Ben Kenobi, had a jolt of sympathy for the mangled Proxy, and was seeking to corrupt young Luke Skywalker.
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If I could redo one thing about TFU, I'd delete the whole starbird family crest nonsense because that, besides being lame, just creates so many continuity conflicts with the Old Republic and Clone Wars stuff.
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I personally don't have issues with what he can do, but how he's used and how he acts. Galen is like the Vong for me except he's not in fitting point in the timeline. Some ideas are cool and some of the story elements are very eyecatching, but having this guy become the founder of the Rebels and later on in II have his clone/reincarnation running around doing all this stuff against Vader at the same time as the OT gang feels too poorly timed, especially when his character lacks the personality of previous SW vidya protagonists while also lacking the charisma to believably get all these Rebel factions together, especially when better lore for the Rebels was offered. If maybe his story took place a bit earlier in the timeline, maybe I wouldn't mind that part about him too much, but despite the retcons, I'd take TFU over Rebels any day.
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If it were up to me, the one thing I'd redo is Vader just casually dismissing Starkiller. It would make much more sense for Vader to be the one to tell Starkiller where the Emperor's forces are taking the rebel senators to, and tell him that if they kill the Emperor together in front of the rebel senators, they can guarantee the senators' support when they take over the Empire.
The canon ending would have Starkiller going full Jedi and rejecting Vader because he's seen what the Empire does to planets (like in Kashyyyk, Felucia, and Raxus Prime) and say that he doesn't want that for the galaxy. I would then have Galen toss the Sith Code back in Vader's face, saying that "the Force shall free me" should count for the whole galaxy, not just the Sith, while Vader responds that the galaxy needs to be controlled in order for there to be peace, relaying his own experiences before and during the Clone Wars.
You can have three endings; one where Starkiller joins Vader on the Death Star to fight Palpatine, which would be the neutral ending, one where Starkiller kills Vader and joins the Emperor instead, which will be the evil ending, and the canon "good" ending will be Starkiller denouncing both Sith Lords since they only want freedom for themselves while he wants to use the Force to free the galaxy from tyranny.
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I hate TFU for making Darth Vader inadvertently responsible for forming the Rebel Alliance. It makes him look like a complete retard, especially with the ending with Palpatine characterizing the Rebellion as something of "Vader's making."
And having Starkiller be the inspiration for the Rebels, along with the crest of his family house being used for the Rebel insignia, is as contrived and eye-rollingly stupid as Timothy Zahn having his race of space elves come up with the name Skywalker. It's the mark of a writer trying to place way too much in-universe significance on their creation.
The only good news is that the events and characters of TFU are referenced virtually nowhere else in the EU (outside of some handheld games published around the same time), so I can ignore it as the misguided fanfic that it is.
And having Starkiller be the inspiration for the Rebels, along with the crest of his family house being used for the Rebel insignia, is as contrived and eye-rollingly stupid as Timothy Zahn having his race of space elves come up with the name Skywalker. It's the mark of a writer trying to place way too much in-universe significance on their creation.
The only good news is that the events and characters of TFU are referenced virtually nowhere else in the EU (outside of some handheld games published around the same time), so I can ignore it as the misguided fanfic that it is.
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That was from Disney's Thrawn Alliances right? And to think people still act as if that's one of the better Disney novels. Zahn even retcons his own character's name. I'm not even sure what's going on through his mind anymore. At one point he actually seemed disappointed with what Filoni and Disney were doing with him and his works, but now he just seems to be eagerly going along with it all while adding to their corrupting formula.
As for Vader in the TFU games, I think what bothers me is how he's depicted as being almost devoid of free will. There's some struggle, and I like an emotional and internally struggling Anakin to show that he was always resisting his Vader persona on some level (unlike in Disney where they just go all out devoted to the Dark and even have him move to Mustafar ffs), but I hated how he was basically just a hollow puppet with no choice of his own in anything and would just stand quietly at times when actual dialogue was necessary to show what was going on in his POV, but instead he just feels like Palpatine's third arm rather than Palpatine's corrupted slave.
My only issue with that is that I actually do like parts of TFU, like PROXY, Kota, Raxus Prime, new Imperial units, the epic final shot with the SD and Paratus (whose whole existence gave me some nasty feels) and what the game did with pre-existing material like Felucia, the sarlaccs and Shaak Ti. Maybe if they remade the game and changed Galen's role as founder of the Rebels and simply change him to a hero symbol and give Vader a real character, it would be easy to redeem while keeping the original story as a what if scenario/classic mode. But instead Disney won't let us have nice things or compromises.
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