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@Holden
1) why are 12 year olds mature enough for sex but not for pregnancy?
2) If women want to be beaten and maimed so much; why did this happen?
3) There are websites where you can buy a bride from literally any country. All you have to do is pay their travel expenses. Why haven't you tried this yet? I feel like if you aren't trying every available option to you, you aren't really even trying to get a relationship (and thus, not really incel).
1) why are 12 year olds mature enough for sex but not for pregnancy?
2) If women want to be beaten and maimed so much; why did this happen?
If women wanted to be abused and tormented; kidnapping a girl surely makes you seem like a demi-god at least.
3) There are websites where you can buy a bride from literally any country. All you have to do is pay their travel expenses. Why haven't you tried this yet? I feel like if you aren't trying every available option to you, you aren't really even trying to get a relationship (and thus, not really incel).
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One of his autistic skills "spiral of lazyness" tl;dr he always find a excuse to avoid work, normally not financing slutdom and blahblahblahblah
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@Holden i have to praise you my boy... really
you have been branded as one of the MOST PATHETIC HUMANS IN EXISTENCE BY FREAKING GAMERGHAZI
i... i cant believe it
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Man, I missed so much irony today. However, I suppose that's the price of having a life that involves more than spewing nonsense to an internet forum.
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I've been reading through the interview with Horse; and I just had to reiterate how DUMB Holden is.
So:
1) he thinks the President has any actual power to really do anything... Like apparently the President can make whatever laws he/she wants
2) He doesn't understand that the Supreme Court is the law of the land and, as a federal court, can tell states what they can and cannot ban (in terms of gay marriage anyway). He thinks that the States can just "choose" not to follow a federal court ruling.
It's times like these that make me remember that Holden knows NOTHING about how the world works.
There is a long part in the transcript that details two girls screwing him over. I guess I can pity him for that. Some girls, especially younger girls, aren't necessarily all put together; they do crazy shit. I had a friend once who would make dates with a guy (he was kind of a creeper, but I digress) and then wouldn't meet up with him; hoping he'd get the hint that she didn't like him. Back then, we all thought that was ok to do...because we were kids...and dumb. If I met someone who was doing that now, I'm old enough to say "Just tell them you don't like them...don't be an ass". But, of course, @Holden doesn't get that 16-18year old girls aren't always mature and just assumes that 2 young girls fucked him over so the whole women populace is like that.
Guess I should just assume that all guys are bad men who want to hurt women; I mean, I've met five men that want to hurt women...Horse, too, has met men who are assholes, so it must be true for all men. Right? ~insert sarcasm~
I do, however, don't understand one thing. Holden was 19 years old when he met TFO and his "soulmate". These girls were 16. If Holden obviously knows 16 year old children are immature as fuck; why does he want to date/fuck/marry 12 year olds? They'll be like 10x worse than a 16 year old....
Of course...Holden could probably beat up a 12 year old...I'm thinking a 16 year old can put up more of a fight.
And, of course, who can forget how COMPASSIONATE, Holden can be:
@NobleGreyHorse I get that Holden was bullied by these women; but what do you think, as you have spent more time with him than I have, is the reason that he's gotten so dark with it? I've met people who have been physically abused by others that haven't turned out so mean. What triggered him to go full on into 'women hate' mode?
It was very kind of him, however, to promise that he would not rape you. I am happy about that. <3
So:
1) he thinks the President has any actual power to really do anything... Like apparently the President can make whatever laws he/she wants
2) He doesn't understand that the Supreme Court is the law of the land and, as a federal court, can tell states what they can and cannot ban (in terms of gay marriage anyway). He thinks that the States can just "choose" not to follow a federal court ruling.
It's times like these that make me remember that Holden knows NOTHING about how the world works.
He thinks that when he gets married (or if he would have gotten married), it would be like a 50s movie....
So America was shit before 1920...but he wants (wanted) a marriage like that of the 50s...makes sense
There is a long part in the transcript that details two girls screwing him over. I guess I can pity him for that. Some girls, especially younger girls, aren't necessarily all put together; they do crazy shit. I had a friend once who would make dates with a guy (he was kind of a creeper, but I digress) and then wouldn't meet up with him; hoping he'd get the hint that she didn't like him. Back then, we all thought that was ok to do...because we were kids...and dumb. If I met someone who was doing that now, I'm old enough to say "Just tell them you don't like them...don't be an ass". But, of course, @Holden doesn't get that 16-18year old girls aren't always mature and just assumes that 2 young girls fucked him over so the whole women populace is like that.
Guess I should just assume that all guys are bad men who want to hurt women; I mean, I've met five men that want to hurt women...Horse, too, has met men who are assholes, so it must be true for all men. Right? ~insert sarcasm~
I do, however, don't understand one thing. Holden was 19 years old when he met TFO and his "soulmate". These girls were 16. If Holden obviously knows 16 year old children are immature as fuck; why does he want to date/fuck/marry 12 year olds? They'll be like 10x worse than a 16 year old....
Of course...Holden could probably beat up a 12 year old...I'm thinking a 16 year old can put up more of a fight.
And, of course, who can forget how COMPASSIONATE, Holden can be:
This reminds me of Chris. "Oh, your mom died in 9/11 under all the rubble? Well I had to lift my dog's doghouse onto her grave. IT WAS HEAVY! IT WAS A BURDEN!!" Poor Horse is talking about how she STILL fears an ex, and Holden's like "well he hurt you one time, no biggy. BUT TFO Hurt me for 8 years by doing something to me once!!!" Why can Holden's trauma be long lasting, but everyone else's is over after it's happened?
@NobleGreyHorse I get that Holden was bullied by these women; but what do you think, as you have spent more time with him than I have, is the reason that he's gotten so dark with it? I've met people who have been physically abused by others that haven't turned out so mean. What triggered him to go full on into 'women hate' mode?
It was very kind of him, however, to promise that he would not rape you. I am happy about that. <3
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It's one of my sources of aggrsvation with mary here, as well as the tumblrites. They bith seem to think that perfectly ordinary little hurts that happen to people every day are the end of the goddamn world, and now rthey are triggered by twinkies or some shit. He got rejected by a few girls, had a hard time talking to girls, somr un fun stuff happened in school. I can guarantee everyone here, has been rejected, hurt , awkward, turned down, yet for @Holden thus is some wirld shattering disaster that he has never moved beyond. Being rejected sucks. But it isn't life threatening. You get over it. Move on. Unless you are holden. In which case you formulate a twisted world view to hide in. He got rejected for two reasons. 1 shit happens, 2 he's a creepy clingy jerk. He can't accept this, so he decided it's got to be western societies fault. Bad news, bitch boy. Those relationships you think are gone forever, exist. People in the western world are happily having them. There are many wonderful women who want love, respect and commitment. But not for you. Too bad. We'll be just fine without you.
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@4Macie - Oh, God only knows if that promise still holds. I mean, I said I would do his wiki edits and then never did them! But... he originally said, in PMs, that it was okay if it took "a year" to get them done, and then after the interview it was all Chris-Chan style NOW NOW NOW!!!! So he can contradict himself but I can't, I guess.
The thing about "shit before the 1920s" was related directly to the closing of the Storyville (New Orleans) brothels in 1917. He cited Pretty Baby, in which the Brooke Shields character is a 12-year-old prostitute, as an example of the kind of good thing that was taken away by meanies. I think he missed how Susan Sarandon's character, her filmic mother, marries out of prostitution and leaves the brothel, promising to return for her once the marriage is settled and she can break the news to her new husband that her "sister" is her daughter, and how, unable to bear this, Shields runs away from the brothel and seeks shelter with the 45-year-old photographer character, offering sex in exchange for a place to stay, as a preferable alternative.
Let me repeat that. Offering sex in exchange for a place to stay. Does this remind you at all of how Holden allegedly manipulated his famous lesbian ex/BFF into giving up the sweet poon in exchange for crashing on his couch?
As for what turned him so cruel about his own traumas, I think that -- whether it stems from legit mental illness, shit parenting, or both -- Holden just cannot see past the end of his own nose. I had a severely traumatic marriage, and Mr. Horse's first wife tried to kill him. You would think that Holden would lock onto this and blame Mrs. Ex's attempted murder on feminism, or something (although she's one of the least feminist women I have ever encountered, despite the fact that she used to make more than Mr. Horse did at the time, and she never let him forget it). I repeat, the broad tried to kill him with one of their kitchen knives. To this day, I don't keep a knife block on the kitchen counter, out of respect. (And small counters.) I was physically abused "one time," and did in fact tell Holden the truth, that an injury from this damaged a few spinal nerves into my leg, causing "hip drop" -- look it up if you're bored -- and crashing pain. He did say he was sorry about the injury, but everything he took away from my past is exactly what you see in the Pastebin: something not as cruel as bullying one shy male teenager. And by "bullying," I mean taking him seriously when he told her he was unable to commit (TFO).
He did claim one or the other of these two women was 24 at the time of their encounter. I then suggested that perhaps his shyness made him a target for female predators. Again, given his general misogyny and redpill bullshit, I thought he would be all over that idea like white on rice or imaginary ugly on a Looksism user. But he shied away from that idea right away and refused to entertain it at all. Very odd. I thought it would make a convenient excuse, but it's not his idea, so it's not just perfectly right.
I think he's locked himself into these extremely rigid thought patterns. He's also very manipulative - note what @flossman pointed out: he never talks about his actual childhood, like when he was 6, not 16. It's all about his adolescence. He never talks about his father except to say he was "a good man who wanted to support his kids." Maybe he knows Stockholm syndrome rather personally? I'd love to know the root causes of some of these robotic thought patterns, and I have pointed out to Holden that when he keeps repeating the same words over and over and over, that is what gives him the "Fuckbot" nickname just as much as his endless posting style. He's decided things about his world, and is more comfortable being miserable than challenging his thought patterns in any way. And he has claimed that "giving" me the interview (four hours!) and wiki edits was a favor to me; that I was the one who caused him to fantasize about raping his second girlfriend as well as TFO (bullshit; that's clearly a fantasy he's had for years); and that my pretending I was going to do the edits but not actually doing them, since I don't work for people who call me "scum" in the middle of the interview, much less rapists (would-be or actual, doesn't matter; he wishes he could, and that's just as disturbing), "proves" that all Western women are scum and terrible people etc. etc. Again, bullshit. As demonstrated by his telling me, right there in the interview, that I would be just as cruel to someone like him as TFO and the other one were, he has decided this and no amount of kissing up to him would have changed his mind.
Where the darkness comes from - @flossman is definitely onto something. Something happened in Holden's childhood that he won't talk about. His life started at age 14 or so, to hear him tell it. Nothing happened before that. Nothing. So that makes me really suspicious about possible abuse, giving him violent thoughts of revenge that he displaces onto women because he sees us as weaker. He is terminally self-centered. He didn't understand why, having created my burner Skype account, I wouldn't just leave it on 24/7 in case he had a deep thought he needed to transmit. If I had the chops to internet-diagnose, it would be some combination of the 'tism spectrum and a personality disorder.
Allow me one more digression? My ex-husband, who also proved his misogyny all over the place, had some childhood traumas. He had rheumatic fever and was bedridden for nearly a year. He may have been molested by a cousin, or may have molested her; all I know is that he talks to his male cousins, but not Nancy. Both of those things are terrible, no doubt. His parents were both alcoholics; his mother recovered and dumped his father, who never did recover, but lots of kids go through illness, parental divorce, and even sexual abuse and don't turn into the manipulative, mean, woman-abusing (not just me, by a long shot) snake Ex-Horse turned out to be. There is some research to suggest some kids are naturally resilient and some aren't, for reasons that we don't yet understand. I think it's a combination of that and the culture we live in, which has many sectors that implicitly or explicitly devalue women, giving some of these men a direction to their hatred. Ex-Horse was more forthcoming about things in his childhood, but like Holden, never mentioned having any friends or particularly wanting to make any.
Let me repeat that. Offering sex in exchange for a place to stay. Does this remind you at all of how Holden allegedly manipulated his famous lesbian ex/BFF into giving up the sweet poon in exchange for crashing on his couch?
As for what turned him so cruel about his own traumas, I think that -- whether it stems from legit mental illness, shit parenting, or both -- Holden just cannot see past the end of his own nose. I had a severely traumatic marriage, and Mr. Horse's first wife tried to kill him. You would think that Holden would lock onto this and blame Mrs. Ex's attempted murder on feminism, or something (although she's one of the least feminist women I have ever encountered, despite the fact that she used to make more than Mr. Horse did at the time, and she never let him forget it). I repeat, the broad tried to kill him with one of their kitchen knives. To this day, I don't keep a knife block on the kitchen counter, out of respect. (And small counters.) I was physically abused "one time," and did in fact tell Holden the truth, that an injury from this damaged a few spinal nerves into my leg, causing "hip drop" -- look it up if you're bored -- and crashing pain. He did say he was sorry about the injury, but everything he took away from my past is exactly what you see in the Pastebin: something not as cruel as bullying one shy male teenager. And by "bullying," I mean taking him seriously when he told her he was unable to commit (TFO).
He did claim one or the other of these two women was 24 at the time of their encounter. I then suggested that perhaps his shyness made him a target for female predators. Again, given his general misogyny and redpill bullshit, I thought he would be all over that idea like white on rice or imaginary ugly on a Looksism user. But he shied away from that idea right away and refused to entertain it at all. Very odd. I thought it would make a convenient excuse, but it's not his idea, so it's not just perfectly right.
I think he's locked himself into these extremely rigid thought patterns. He's also very manipulative - note what @flossman pointed out: he never talks about his actual childhood, like when he was 6, not 16. It's all about his adolescence. He never talks about his father except to say he was "a good man who wanted to support his kids." Maybe he knows Stockholm syndrome rather personally? I'd love to know the root causes of some of these robotic thought patterns, and I have pointed out to Holden that when he keeps repeating the same words over and over and over, that is what gives him the "Fuckbot" nickname just as much as his endless posting style. He's decided things about his world, and is more comfortable being miserable than challenging his thought patterns in any way. And he has claimed that "giving" me the interview (four hours!) and wiki edits was a favor to me; that I was the one who caused him to fantasize about raping his second girlfriend as well as TFO (bullshit; that's clearly a fantasy he's had for years); and that my pretending I was going to do the edits but not actually doing them, since I don't work for people who call me "scum" in the middle of the interview, much less rapists (would-be or actual, doesn't matter; he wishes he could, and that's just as disturbing), "proves" that all Western women are scum and terrible people etc. etc. Again, bullshit. As demonstrated by his telling me, right there in the interview, that I would be just as cruel to someone like him as TFO and the other one were, he has decided this and no amount of kissing up to him would have changed his mind.
Where the darkness comes from - @flossman is definitely onto something. Something happened in Holden's childhood that he won't talk about. His life started at age 14 or so, to hear him tell it. Nothing happened before that. Nothing. So that makes me really suspicious about possible abuse, giving him violent thoughts of revenge that he displaces onto women because he sees us as weaker. He is terminally self-centered. He didn't understand why, having created my burner Skype account, I wouldn't just leave it on 24/7 in case he had a deep thought he needed to transmit. If I had the chops to internet-diagnose, it would be some combination of the 'tism spectrum and a personality disorder.
Allow me one more digression? My ex-husband, who also proved his misogyny all over the place, had some childhood traumas. He had rheumatic fever and was bedridden for nearly a year. He may have been molested by a cousin, or may have molested her; all I know is that he talks to his male cousins, but not Nancy. Both of those things are terrible, no doubt. His parents were both alcoholics; his mother recovered and dumped his father, who never did recover, but lots of kids go through illness, parental divorce, and even sexual abuse and don't turn into the manipulative, mean, woman-abusing (not just me, by a long shot) snake Ex-Horse turned out to be. There is some research to suggest some kids are naturally resilient and some aren't, for reasons that we don't yet understand. I think it's a combination of that and the culture we live in, which has many sectors that implicitly or explicitly devalue women, giving some of these men a direction to their hatred. Ex-Horse was more forthcoming about things in his childhood, but like Holden, never mentioned having any friends or particularly wanting to make any.
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I agree wholeheartedly with everything that has been said. Holden was completely wrong about women. They do not have too many children, and would never even think about destroying the planet. They also like nice guys who ask for sex rather than those that force it without consent, are more rational than he is ( especially in math, science, and philosophy), and are not spoiled despite their superior wealth, social lives, and parents. Because Holden wants internet friends and attention from them he is clearly a deranged narcissist and should be avoided in the real world, especially by those he needs the most. Finally, he is a Fuckbot on a website called Kiwifarms which houses the insecure so that they can be fucked with!
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Horse, I thought I was pretty clear in my PM. I said I could bear it being over in an year. You can't read. Am I lying? Prove otherwise.
4Macie - what kind of a fucking idiot are you? I never said that president can make or change laws. Nowhere is this stated there. I thought he could influence an agenda. What a fucking moron are you....
4Macie - what kind of a fucking idiot are you? I never said that president can make or change laws. Nowhere is this stated there. I thought he could influence an agenda. What a fucking moron are you....
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@Holden Welcome home! There are pizza rolls in the fridge but you'll have to warm them up.
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Horse, in order to make any kind of analysis you have to know the facts. Which you don't. I wasn't shy when I had dealings with that 24 yo woman, nor was I RPer. If you quote flossman on anything you're crazier than him - he himself stated "I started hating women" after some event he believes happened in 2006 !
Horse, knock it off. You're a fool. You lack any info and you spout shit. In order to say anything about me you'd first need to pull your own head out of your ass and maybe stop listening to insane people like Macie or flossman. Jesus.
Horse, knock it off. You're a fool. You lack any info and you spout shit. In order to say anything about me you'd first need to pull your own head out of your ass and maybe stop listening to insane people like Macie or flossman. Jesus.
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Superior parents? Women have superior parents? Doctor Radical seems unaware that it is possible to have male and female children from the same mother, sometimes even in the same birth. Where the hell does this come from? Citation very much needed.
I'm not even going to play semantics, Holden. You said, "Even if it takes a year..." This said nothing about you needing the work to begin five minutes ago. You need to be clear. Your English used to be a lot easier to parse -- what has happened? I mean, like within the last few months, it was easier to parse. But you know, good luck finding somebody who totally takes orders from either (a) a rapist, or (b) a huge liar about being a rapist, which is still gross.
I'm not even going to play semantics, Holden. You said, "Even if it takes a year..." This said nothing about you needing the work to begin five minutes ago. You need to be clear. Your English used to be a lot easier to parse -- what has happened? I mean, like within the last few months, it was easier to parse. But you know, good luck finding somebody who totally takes orders from either (a) a rapist, or (b) a huge liar about being a rapist, which is still gross.
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You seriously think a President is going to have enough influence to change a Supreme Court ruling?
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"And by "bullying," I mean taking him seriously when he told her he was unable to commit (TFO)."
This wasn't what 1. happened 2. I meant as bullying. Horse, please, knock it off. You're insane.
This wasn't what 1. happened 2. I meant as bullying. Horse, please, knock it off. You're insane.
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A president may influence an agenda, but they'd have absolutely no say in being able to affect decisions made by the Supreme Court years prior. You also said that states may choose to not follow the court's decision, which is something that they absolutely have no ability to do.
Also, @Holden, remember the good old times when you were gloating about the Wiki edits @NobleGreyHorse was totally going to do? Because I do.
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You look a bit silly now, Holden.
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Moving the goalposts, are we? Trying to look like less a moron, are we? You pathetic cunt.
Ok. This isn't even the point. The point is that Macie is a fucking retard who immediately jumped the gun.
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This is intentional irony, right? I could just as easily tell you to stop listening to insane people like Fschmidt, by the way. But I love how everybody has to be influenced by somebody else. None of us are capable of acting on our own. Either I'm the mastermind of the "troll ring," as you told Hickory (I had actually never spoken to her before you told her I had; I intend to, though, because she seems really cool), or Flossman is controlling us all. Or Macie. There can be only one! You can't have 47 masterminds of one troll ring! Who is it, then?