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- Jul 1, 2019
Lori's remarks about transgenderism in this post are especially notable given her dating history and this separate post is for context.
LORI AND TRANSGENDERISM, RELATIONSHIPS, AND CHEATING
Back in the 2000s, Lori dated a FtM transgendered individual named Ender (her
Seiya Kou #2). They frequently cosplayed as Sailor Moon and her gender-bending protector Seiya Kou.
Lori's Usagi x Seiya fanart
Lori took a vacation to San Diego, California and cheated on Ender...with Ender's own brother. Classic Lori. She also insulted Ender with this exchange:
Lori: "I really like your brother."
Ender: "Yeah, he's really cool, and awesome. A lot of fun to hang out with."
Lori: "No, no, I like your brother. He's exactly like you, except male."
"Lori never 'busted me out''when she started using feminine pronouns with me out of anger. she simply began referring to me as the shell of a body i was born with, rather than who she really knew me as. why did she do this? well, that much is obvious. one of the first things people usually do when they're upset with a person is to impliment the use of whatever they think will hurt that person the most." - Ender [LINK]
Michiru's Statement [LINK]
"Usa [Lori] then decided that she needed a vacation. Why, I have no idea. She wasn't working, she wasn't going to school, she wasn't doing anything. But, she felt that she needed to get away for a while. She was going to go to San Diego, to meet up with another person she mostly knew from online. (Notably, this was after we quietly shot down her wanting to be drive to New York for her birthday, as everyone else had work or potential work.) So, without asking anyone when it would be convenient or possible to take her to the airport, or asking anyone which airport was best to fly out of, she had her father buy her plane tickets to San Diego...
Usa was still going to go to California. She tried to get Ender to talk her out of it -- but Ender was desperate for a vacation from her voracious sex drive, so didn't try to dissuade her. A couple of days before her scheduled flight, she finally tells my father when her flight is, and asks to be taken. We had a play the day before, so Dad decided that it made more sense for her to stay in a hotel, instead of being driven early in the morning to catch the flight. Dad also took Ender with him (Haruka wasn't feeling good, so I took care of her), and they (my sibs, my brother's best friend, my father, Ender, and Usa) went to see a musical, then dropped Usa off at a hotel with a shuttle to the airport."
It was then revealed that Lori cheated on Ender AND Ender's brother with another person while in San Diego - Kusanagi (mamorukusachan). Again, classic Lori. Kusanagi also shared that Lori previously cheated on Ender during a trip to Chile. In a way, Lori is uniquely woke - she doesn't discriminate when it comes to manipulating, cheating, and fucking people over. Some people accomplish goals like climbing a mountain, starting a new business, traveling to a special destination, etc. Lori accomplished the Inception of cheating. Yay...?
[LINK] Regarding Sailormoon, Usagi, Usagi Kou, Lori, or whatever you prefer to be called...
(Yes, this is the cosplayer Sailormoon that I'm referring to. Same one on C.C and all over the internet.)
You used me. And I'm not the only one you used.
Why didn't I believe everyone when they told me you were bad news? I should have.
You're a parasite, a leech. You couldn't get what you needed from back home, and so you came out here, LIED to me, and USED me. Or tried to, in more ways than one. And when you couldn't get what you wanted from me, you ran off with your boyfriends BROTHER to get it from him.
And now as I find out what you really are, what you really are deep down, it hurts me that I didn't believe it and it disgusts me that I even associated myself with you. You're the type of person that I try not to be, the type of person I almost killed myself over to avoid becoming.
And I fell for it. I fell for it hook, line and sinker. Good thing my body didn't. You would have cheated on your boyfriend with me and I would have never known it.
But in the few days afterwards, I found out just how much of a victim you pretend to be. You brought it on yourself. You complained how much you had been cheated on but now that other people close to you reveal what they know, you're just as guilty of cheating as the ones you were with. News flash - If you're still going out with someone it is NOT acceptable to fool around with someone else, regardless of distance, wether its another coast or another country! How does that factor in? Do you sit down and go "Well, I'm 500 miles away from my boyfriend (who i'm not officially attached to) so I can make out with this guy" and "If it's more than 1000 miles I can sleep with him?"
I'm glad I wasn't able to do anything with you. It makes me feel a little better. But the fact that you wanted to and we tried still makes me want to vomit. I'm glad that because of all the stress I was under, I wasn't able to get into it. It would have made a big mistake even worse.
I see now how much you value friendships. You threw away your best friend, for what? Cause you couldn't go a week without sex and had to use someone for that end (thankfully not me)?
How can you be like that? I'm disgusted, but curious at the same time...how?
I remember when we talked about cutting, and how you told me that you had done it once. I asked you what it was that triggered in your brain, what it was that told you cutting was an okay thing to do. You said nothing did.
Bull. Shit.
I knew you were lying...and I realized what a shallow person you are. I thought you were strong, but it was nothing but lip service. But did I call you out on it? No. I should have.
Thats why I didn't want to see you on Saturday night. I knew the situation was bad but I had no idea how bad till I talked with your boyfriend.
You've burned all your bridges back east and a few of the ones you were making out here. I hope this guy can see right through you like I wasn't able to. I hope he sees you for the person you are, and not the one you pretend to be.
You have a lot of growing up to do. You're even using your own family for money.
Why the FUCK did you use the money your father sent you to fly out here instead of paying rent?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
You're living in a shell thats going to crash around you one day. Reality check - you need to grow up. I'm working my ass off to save up to move out. I'm working my ass off to save up to go back to school. I'm MAKING something of my life and I'll be DAMNED if I even associate with people who aren't doing the same. I know it. The brother knows it. REAL people know it.
I let you use me, yes, its true. But I'm not going to let that happen again. Will I get used in the future? Probably. But by you?
HELL NO.
You've thrown away your best friend like nothing and are rapidly running out of places to turn. You lost another one in me. And I hope for your sake that you lose this guy too, so that you'll be forced to grow up, that life will give you the bitchslap you so rightfully deserve.
Stop living in the fantasy world.
You want to make things better? Make it better with the people who still care, the others that you hurt, the ones that after all you put them through STILL CARE for you. Prove to THEM that you can change and I MIGHT consider giving you another chance to be my friend. Since you already deleted me from your LJ AND since you were kicked out of your house when you came back cause your roommates and boyfriend were sick of your shit, I doubt that's going to happen.
I told you I'm a merciless bastard when someone hurts me. Spread what you will, get your followers to try and attack me but I really don't care. The opinion of someone as low as you and those even LOWER who follow you mean NOTHING to me. I value my friendships very deeply, and what you did is inexcusable! You threw away your best friendship AND your boyfriend because you couldn't fucking wait till you got back from San Diego to get off?
You're nowhere near as worth as much as I am. You don't automatically get strength, or respect, or worth as a human being. You have to EARN it.
I really thought you were a strong person. I really did, from all the talks we had. All the late nights on the phone talking about everything and nothing. But you have no strength. It doesn't come from within. You're an actress, nothing more. You're an actress who manipulates and tells others what they want to hear just to reach your ends. I congratulate you. I'm usually able to see right through that. You were able to hide it from me a lot longer than other people were able to. But I still saw through it. I'm just glad it wasn't too late when I did.
Like I said, I EARNED the respect I have. I've EARNED the friends, the trust, and the life that I have. Nobody gave it to me, I FOUGHT for it, and I fight to keep it, every damned day, every damned customer that yells and screams at me, every time I get a reprimand, every time I try to reach out to my friends when they hurt because I want to help them, when there is NOTHING in it for me.
EARN something for a change. Earn it while you still have a choice, and not because you're forced to because you have nowhere else to turn.
You have a lot of growing up to do. If you don't, I honestly don't see you being even alive in ten years because you'll end up hooking up with another abusive asshole like you claim to be the victim of all the time. You're going to hurt him, and you'll find yourself in a situation that makes this look like nothing.
As much as I hate you right now... I don't want to see that happen to you. I don't want to see that happen to anyone.
But I do hope that life gives you a good kick in the ass and you WAKE UP. You've already been kicked out of your house and have alienated some of your close friends by doing this, but if this doesn't give you the wake up call you need... I don't think anything will.
You know what? I was going to screen comments, but it's not worth it. Wether her "fan club" decides to vent their fury on me or not, I really don't care. They're in more need of a wakeup call than she is.
So, to paraphrase:
Lori comes out here to see me. Lies that she has a boyfriend. I knew she was interested in someone but she flat out told me they weren't going out. I'm not able to get into it. So she turns to ice the next two days. Then she goes and hangs out with her boyfriends BROTHER and fucks him because she couldn't get it from ME. Then she goes home. Oh yeah, she still owes me 40 bucks I'll never see again.
And as much as she did to me, thats nothing compared to what she's done to her roommates / other friends on the east coast. She's living with her ex right now cause he's the only one that will take her in.
This is the same guy she cheated on when she went to Chile. Hence the "other country" comment.
Luna, you have every right to say "I told you so" if you want to.
[LINK] Just to clarify one last thing...
When Lori and myself made plans for her to come out here on a vacation to hang out so I could show her San Diego, Ender's brother was NEVER a factor in that decision. She wanted to come out here to see ME and only looked at meeting and seeing OTHER people because I wasn't able to get a full week off of work. She wanted to see a few people (Bluelady and Maryssa were two of them).
When I told her I couldn't get the time off of work she started looking for other people to hang out with and then decided to hang out with Ender's brother for a day or two while I was working. As far as I knew, Ender's brother was supposed to take her clubbing, and she was supposed to go to the zoo with Maryssa on Saturday before we hung out again that night.
I don't know if this makes the situation surrounding her better or worse, but she did NOT ORIGINALLY come to San Diego because of Ender's brother. They ended up making plans to hang out after I told them I couldn't get off work.
I personally think that he used her brother in the sense that since she couldn't get all she wanted from me she used him.
This also explains why I was so pissed off at the situation even BEFORE I found out that she cheated on Ender. Lori told me point blank that the only reason that Ender and herself hooked up was because they were both lonely and there was really no-one else there. She said she wasn't attached to him.
I know in the last few days since I've come out and added my piece to fill in the gaps in the San Diego story, that was a point that people really didn't know. And since my journal is being linked left and right by all sorts of people I decided to post it here instead of in the hundred or so threads surrounding Lori.
Ender: "hey guys, it's seiya (http://seiya.livejournal.com/ender).
i supposed i have mixed feelings about this. xD; considering, you know, i had to live / sleep / eat / DOEVERYTHINGEVER with her [Lori], it's a bit more...real to me. 'specially when she fucked my brother, but you know...
but seriously. anyone seen mean girls? all of us, all the Kous, were in the position of the lindsay lohann however the hell she spells her name chick in that there movie. (though i, admittably, am almost too gay to function). so yep, it was partially our faults! we don't feel sorry for ourselves, we just don't want it to happen to anyone else, you know? because of all this mess, i'm really tempted to make my own public entry. it's a little more emotional than michi's county-by-count, and a little less enraged than ruka's xD.
anyway, all i really wanted to say was, she's a human being. human beings, as we know, are very fucked up creatures. bash her all you want, it doesn't make you a better person. it's better just to learn from this. don't let it happen to you. don't get sucked under the spell of sumbitch like lori.
if you do, i'll so kick all yer asses. fuck yes. asses."
LORI AND TRANSGENDERISM, RELATIONSHIPS, AND CHEATING
Back in the 2000s, Lori dated a FtM transgendered individual named Ender (her
Seiya Kou #2). They frequently cosplayed as Sailor Moon and her gender-bending protector Seiya Kou.
Lori's Usagi x Seiya fanart
Lori took a vacation to San Diego, California and cheated on Ender...with Ender's own brother. Classic Lori. She also insulted Ender with this exchange:
Lori: "I really like your brother."
Ender: "Yeah, he's really cool, and awesome. A lot of fun to hang out with."
Lori: "No, no, I like your brother. He's exactly like you, except male."
"Lori never 'busted me out''when she started using feminine pronouns with me out of anger. she simply began referring to me as the shell of a body i was born with, rather than who she really knew me as. why did she do this? well, that much is obvious. one of the first things people usually do when they're upset with a person is to impliment the use of whatever they think will hurt that person the most." - Ender [LINK]
Michiru's Statement [LINK]
"Usa [Lori] then decided that she needed a vacation. Why, I have no idea. She wasn't working, she wasn't going to school, she wasn't doing anything. But, she felt that she needed to get away for a while. She was going to go to San Diego, to meet up with another person she mostly knew from online. (Notably, this was after we quietly shot down her wanting to be drive to New York for her birthday, as everyone else had work or potential work.) So, without asking anyone when it would be convenient or possible to take her to the airport, or asking anyone which airport was best to fly out of, she had her father buy her plane tickets to San Diego...
Usa was still going to go to California. She tried to get Ender to talk her out of it -- but Ender was desperate for a vacation from her voracious sex drive, so didn't try to dissuade her. A couple of days before her scheduled flight, she finally tells my father when her flight is, and asks to be taken. We had a play the day before, so Dad decided that it made more sense for her to stay in a hotel, instead of being driven early in the morning to catch the flight. Dad also took Ender with him (Haruka wasn't feeling good, so I took care of her), and they (my sibs, my brother's best friend, my father, Ender, and Usa) went to see a musical, then dropped Usa off at a hotel with a shuttle to the airport."
It was then revealed that Lori cheated on Ender AND Ender's brother with another person while in San Diego - Kusanagi (mamorukusachan). Again, classic Lori. Kusanagi also shared that Lori previously cheated on Ender during a trip to Chile. In a way, Lori is uniquely woke - she doesn't discriminate when it comes to manipulating, cheating, and fucking people over. Some people accomplish goals like climbing a mountain, starting a new business, traveling to a special destination, etc. Lori accomplished the Inception of cheating. Yay...?
[LINK] Regarding Sailormoon, Usagi, Usagi Kou, Lori, or whatever you prefer to be called...
(Yes, this is the cosplayer Sailormoon that I'm referring to. Same one on C.C and all over the internet.)
You used me. And I'm not the only one you used.
Why didn't I believe everyone when they told me you were bad news? I should have.
You're a parasite, a leech. You couldn't get what you needed from back home, and so you came out here, LIED to me, and USED me. Or tried to, in more ways than one. And when you couldn't get what you wanted from me, you ran off with your boyfriends BROTHER to get it from him.
And now as I find out what you really are, what you really are deep down, it hurts me that I didn't believe it and it disgusts me that I even associated myself with you. You're the type of person that I try not to be, the type of person I almost killed myself over to avoid becoming.
And I fell for it. I fell for it hook, line and sinker. Good thing my body didn't. You would have cheated on your boyfriend with me and I would have never known it.
But in the few days afterwards, I found out just how much of a victim you pretend to be. You brought it on yourself. You complained how much you had been cheated on but now that other people close to you reveal what they know, you're just as guilty of cheating as the ones you were with. News flash - If you're still going out with someone it is NOT acceptable to fool around with someone else, regardless of distance, wether its another coast or another country! How does that factor in? Do you sit down and go "Well, I'm 500 miles away from my boyfriend (who i'm not officially attached to) so I can make out with this guy" and "If it's more than 1000 miles I can sleep with him?"
I'm glad I wasn't able to do anything with you. It makes me feel a little better. But the fact that you wanted to and we tried still makes me want to vomit. I'm glad that because of all the stress I was under, I wasn't able to get into it. It would have made a big mistake even worse.
I see now how much you value friendships. You threw away your best friend, for what? Cause you couldn't go a week without sex and had to use someone for that end (thankfully not me)?
How can you be like that? I'm disgusted, but curious at the same time...how?
I remember when we talked about cutting, and how you told me that you had done it once. I asked you what it was that triggered in your brain, what it was that told you cutting was an okay thing to do. You said nothing did.
Bull. Shit.
I knew you were lying...and I realized what a shallow person you are. I thought you were strong, but it was nothing but lip service. But did I call you out on it? No. I should have.
Thats why I didn't want to see you on Saturday night. I knew the situation was bad but I had no idea how bad till I talked with your boyfriend.
You've burned all your bridges back east and a few of the ones you were making out here. I hope this guy can see right through you like I wasn't able to. I hope he sees you for the person you are, and not the one you pretend to be.
You have a lot of growing up to do. You're even using your own family for money.
Why the FUCK did you use the money your father sent you to fly out here instead of paying rent?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
You're living in a shell thats going to crash around you one day. Reality check - you need to grow up. I'm working my ass off to save up to move out. I'm working my ass off to save up to go back to school. I'm MAKING something of my life and I'll be DAMNED if I even associate with people who aren't doing the same. I know it. The brother knows it. REAL people know it.
I let you use me, yes, its true. But I'm not going to let that happen again. Will I get used in the future? Probably. But by you?
HELL NO.
You've thrown away your best friend like nothing and are rapidly running out of places to turn. You lost another one in me. And I hope for your sake that you lose this guy too, so that you'll be forced to grow up, that life will give you the bitchslap you so rightfully deserve.
Stop living in the fantasy world.
You want to make things better? Make it better with the people who still care, the others that you hurt, the ones that after all you put them through STILL CARE for you. Prove to THEM that you can change and I MIGHT consider giving you another chance to be my friend. Since you already deleted me from your LJ AND since you were kicked out of your house when you came back cause your roommates and boyfriend were sick of your shit, I doubt that's going to happen.
I told you I'm a merciless bastard when someone hurts me. Spread what you will, get your followers to try and attack me but I really don't care. The opinion of someone as low as you and those even LOWER who follow you mean NOTHING to me. I value my friendships very deeply, and what you did is inexcusable! You threw away your best friendship AND your boyfriend because you couldn't fucking wait till you got back from San Diego to get off?
You're nowhere near as worth as much as I am. You don't automatically get strength, or respect, or worth as a human being. You have to EARN it.
I really thought you were a strong person. I really did, from all the talks we had. All the late nights on the phone talking about everything and nothing. But you have no strength. It doesn't come from within. You're an actress, nothing more. You're an actress who manipulates and tells others what they want to hear just to reach your ends. I congratulate you. I'm usually able to see right through that. You were able to hide it from me a lot longer than other people were able to. But I still saw through it. I'm just glad it wasn't too late when I did.
Like I said, I EARNED the respect I have. I've EARNED the friends, the trust, and the life that I have. Nobody gave it to me, I FOUGHT for it, and I fight to keep it, every damned day, every damned customer that yells and screams at me, every time I get a reprimand, every time I try to reach out to my friends when they hurt because I want to help them, when there is NOTHING in it for me.
EARN something for a change. Earn it while you still have a choice, and not because you're forced to because you have nowhere else to turn.
You have a lot of growing up to do. If you don't, I honestly don't see you being even alive in ten years because you'll end up hooking up with another abusive asshole like you claim to be the victim of all the time. You're going to hurt him, and you'll find yourself in a situation that makes this look like nothing.
As much as I hate you right now... I don't want to see that happen to you. I don't want to see that happen to anyone.
But I do hope that life gives you a good kick in the ass and you WAKE UP. You've already been kicked out of your house and have alienated some of your close friends by doing this, but if this doesn't give you the wake up call you need... I don't think anything will.
You know what? I was going to screen comments, but it's not worth it. Wether her "fan club" decides to vent their fury on me or not, I really don't care. They're in more need of a wakeup call than she is.
So, to paraphrase:
Lori comes out here to see me. Lies that she has a boyfriend. I knew she was interested in someone but she flat out told me they weren't going out. I'm not able to get into it. So she turns to ice the next two days. Then she goes and hangs out with her boyfriends BROTHER and fucks him because she couldn't get it from ME. Then she goes home. Oh yeah, she still owes me 40 bucks I'll never see again.
And as much as she did to me, thats nothing compared to what she's done to her roommates / other friends on the east coast. She's living with her ex right now cause he's the only one that will take her in.
This is the same guy she cheated on when she went to Chile. Hence the "other country" comment.
Luna, you have every right to say "I told you so" if you want to.
[LINK] Just to clarify one last thing...
When Lori and myself made plans for her to come out here on a vacation to hang out so I could show her San Diego, Ender's brother was NEVER a factor in that decision. She wanted to come out here to see ME and only looked at meeting and seeing OTHER people because I wasn't able to get a full week off of work. She wanted to see a few people (Bluelady and Maryssa were two of them).
When I told her I couldn't get the time off of work she started looking for other people to hang out with and then decided to hang out with Ender's brother for a day or two while I was working. As far as I knew, Ender's brother was supposed to take her clubbing, and she was supposed to go to the zoo with Maryssa on Saturday before we hung out again that night.
I don't know if this makes the situation surrounding her better or worse, but she did NOT ORIGINALLY come to San Diego because of Ender's brother. They ended up making plans to hang out after I told them I couldn't get off work.
I personally think that he used her brother in the sense that since she couldn't get all she wanted from me she used him.
This also explains why I was so pissed off at the situation even BEFORE I found out that she cheated on Ender. Lori told me point blank that the only reason that Ender and herself hooked up was because they were both lonely and there was really no-one else there. She said she wasn't attached to him.
I know in the last few days since I've come out and added my piece to fill in the gaps in the San Diego story, that was a point that people really didn't know. And since my journal is being linked left and right by all sorts of people I decided to post it here instead of in the hundred or so threads surrounding Lori.
Ender: "hey guys, it's seiya (http://seiya.livejournal.com/ender).
i supposed i have mixed feelings about this. xD; considering, you know, i had to live / sleep / eat / DOEVERYTHINGEVER with her [Lori], it's a bit more...real to me. 'specially when she fucked my brother, but you know...
but seriously. anyone seen mean girls? all of us, all the Kous, were in the position of the lindsay lohann however the hell she spells her name chick in that there movie. (though i, admittably, am almost too gay to function). so yep, it was partially our faults! we don't feel sorry for ourselves, we just don't want it to happen to anyone else, you know? because of all this mess, i'm really tempted to make my own public entry. it's a little more emotional than michi's county-by-count, and a little less enraged than ruka's xD.
anyway, all i really wanted to say was, she's a human being. human beings, as we know, are very fucked up creatures. bash her all you want, it doesn't make you a better person. it's better just to learn from this. don't let it happen to you. don't get sucked under the spell of sumbitch like lori.
if you do, i'll so kick all yer asses. fuck yes. asses."
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But... It doesn't seem to have been enough for Lori."
