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They'll do the same thing they are already doing.

They will report on a "new strain" and say they need to keep the lockdowns in place until the "new strain" is handled.

Then there will be another "new strain."
Yeah, there's not going to be a "normal" summer. They pushed Summerfest into September again already. I have absolutely no faith that we're going to be back to anything like pre-Covid. They even wedged in the fact that they may require proof of the jab before you can enter. I can foresee a huge market for counterfeit vax cards.

Our city doesn't have much outside of it's bar culture and summer festivals. These lockdowns and mask mandates are quite literally killing us and they blatantly do not fucking care.
 
Yeah, there's not going to be a "normal" summer. They pushed Summerfest into September again already. I have absolutely no faith that we're going to be back to anything like pre-Covid. They even wedged in the fact that they may require proof of the jab before you can enter. I can foresee a huge market for counterfeit vax cards.

Our city doesn't have much outside of it's bar culture and summer festivals. These lockdowns and mask mandates are quite literally killing us and they blatantly do not fucking care.
I've mentioned this before, but New York State parks have already announced that no permits for outdoor events will be given for the entirety of 2021. I know some of these events need permits now because of months of planning necessary, but the fact that NYSPR has already come out and said 2021 is cancelled bodes ill.
 
finally some good new, because the case and hospitlisation are dropping massively in my province, prime minister legault will relieve some restriction https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1767173/francois-legault-convid-19-economie-restrictions-quebec
(geez seriously the comment, people crying it will make the case increase. Seriously do they have any idea how a flu work?
So no more wearing a leash and walking yourself?
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My husband's grandmother is getting the 2nd dose tomorrow (she's old as fuck and british). My husband was asking his mom if she was okay and if she had any side effects that are common. My MIL, bless her fucking old lady heart, is ignorant on a lot about the vaccine and is very clearly believing whatever narrative they're pumping out there and wants to get the jab asap but she's not in the current age group. Due to her lengthy list of current medical issues, I'm concerned over her getting it because of how little it's been tested on healthy people let alone people who have preexisting conditions like autoimmune disorders. My husband shares this sentiment but it isn't like we can share this with her because she'll think we're being paranoid and that they "wouldn't release a vaccine to the general public if it wasn't safe"
 
I think this has been brought up in the thread but I wonder the effects of mask pollution will have on the environment, especially in third world countries. Those things aren't biodegradable, right? Now with this double masking crap going around, it's prolly gonna make it worse.

This whole thing has made me think of the lasting effects this whole panic is gonna have on our world cause of the shortsightedness of the clowns in charge.
 
This whole thing has made me think of the lasting effects this whole panic is gonna have on our world cause of the shortsightedness of the clowns in charge.
In addition to the
  • rampant poverty and famine
  • the 30-50% of small businesses that are destroyed forever because it was literally illegal for them to be open while all the big retailers got to stay open
  • people that have been out of work for nearly a year and counting now
  • increased suicides
  • increased depression
  • increased obesity because people couldn't go outside to exercise or to the gym plus all the stress eating
  • increased undiagnosed diseases like cardiovascular and cancers
  • increased drug addiction
  • increased domestic violence or just regular violence
  • increased normalcy of turning in friends and family to the police who would dare gather in groups inside their own homes or just not wear their masks
  • increased hated for anyone that even questions any of this
  • decreased birth rates for many years down the road
  • decreased number of relationships that were formed because people couldn't meet or be social

I'm sure I'm missing some stuff as well.
 
Oh they'll continue to screech and play moral police until at least 2022, fervently checking for new scary updates on virus strains (without actually reading anything beyond the doomsdaying article headlines, of course) chastising everyone who dares to spend time with others without a muzzle, lamenting the albeist/broken/horrible healthcare system, and screaming about how profit and capitalism are valued over human life.

Many of them will likely be permanent agoraphobes who will break out into cold sweats at the thought of attending a concert, conference or any large gathering, let alone leaving the safety of their home bubbles.

In short, they'll continue to be nightmares on social media, but the normies will eventually chill out and ignore them.

I was lurking on a forum for priests and deacons and someone asked "how many parishioners do you think you have permanently lost from your parish due to the lockdowns?" As in they stopped coming at the start of the stay home orders, and they will never come back either because they are too scared to or some other reason. I figured my estimate, about 30%, was insanely pessimistic, but it's based on what I observe at my church, between who actually shows and how many hits our livestream gets. But the priests were estimating anywhere between 40-70%. Because they have heard from many people privately that they are just never going to be comfortable sitting in a pew next to a brother in faith again, drinking from the cup together, sharing a paschal or Christmas feast together, hugging and handshaking at weddings and funerals. Some will keep watching church on teevee, which is pathetic and gay, and some have figured out the fake and gayness of that and just decided to give up completely. Worst of all are the people whose faith was destroyed by the bishops basically cucking to the authorities and saying "yeah lock people out of the churches when they need prayer more than ever, I mean, we kept serving during the bubonic plague, cholera, typhoid, smallpox, Hitler, Stalin, and you name it, but THIS, this coof is enough to shut us down."

That was the blackest pill I have had to swallow in all this time.

And as we come up on a year I keep wondering what the last straw will be for normies. I feel like doing something extreme even though I am not an extremist. What will push them to the point of wanting to...do ANYTHING? Another year of lost holidays and birthdays? Triple masks? The vaccines getting pushed on younger kids and those kids having terrible side effects? It seems like nothing will do it.

The one time I wore more than one mask was during the wildfires out west this summer. I had to be outside for half an hour when the air quality rating was like 600 or something and could not stand it, so I piled on a second mask, then a third, and found that while it was hard to breathe at least I didn't cough as much. Couldn't do anything strenuous like that though, basically just move slowly and stand around.
 
And as we come up on a year I keep wondering what the last straw will be for normies.
Unfortunately, I don't think there will be a "last straw".

We're approaching ONE YEAR next month. The longer this goes on, the longer this will actually feel like "a new normal" to people.

Some people have suggested that we never lift precautions.

I don't think people realize that Covid is NEVER going away. If somehow, every person in the USA got both doses of the vaccine this year, tens of thousands will still die of COVID in 2022. In 2025. In 2030. Especially old people. No offense to them, but once you are in your 80s or 90s, literally anything could kill you.
 
Unfortunately, I don't think there will be a "last straw".

We're approaching ONE YEAR next month. The longer this goes on, the longer this will actually feel like "a new normal" to people.

Some people have suggested that we never lift precautions.

I don't think people realize that Covid is NEVER going away. If somehow, every person in the USA got both doses of the vaccine this year, tens of thousands will still die of COVID in 2022. In 2025. In 2030. Especially old people. No offense to them, but once you are in your 80s or 90s, literally anything could kill you.
That's what I'm afraid of. The revelatory moment for me about how screwed we are was when a bunch of redditfaced millennials were screaming on social media about how unjust it is that some guy has covid...at age 100. He is a veteran of WWII and he went on vacation in Barbados. Half the comments were calling him stupid for traveling, half were blaming the "maskholes" for getting him sick by not wearing masks properly. Apparently it occurred to no one that he was lucky to be alive at all at his age and that maybe it was more important to him to go to the beach than to squeeze out another four months of lifespan at some miserable NHS home in England. Some guy wailed "imagine surviving the war only to be killed by SELFISH people who couldn't just WEAR A DAMN MASK!" Like whatever I die of, if I live to be 100 and it's not violent or agonizing, I'll count myself unbelievably blessed. What happened to people that they think we are entitled to live beyond 100? At the expense of everyone else doing literally anything else?
 
That's what I'm afraid of. The revelatory moment for me about how screwed we are was when a bunch of redditfaced millennials were screaming on social media about how unjust it is that some guy has covid...at age 100. He is a veteran of WWII and he went on vacation in Barbados. Half the comments were calling him stupid for traveling, half were blaming the "maskholes" for getting him sick by not wearing masks properly. Apparently it occurred to no one that he was lucky to be alive at all at his age and that maybe it was more important to him to go to the beach than to squeeze out another four months of lifespan at some miserable NHS home in England. Some guy wailed "imagine surviving the war only to be killed by SELFISH people who couldn't just WEAR A DAMN MASK!" Like whatever I die of, if I live to be 100 and it's not violent or agonizing, I'll count myself unbelievably blessed. What happened to people that they think we are entitled to live beyond 100? At the expense of everyone else doing literally anything else?
The weirdest part about all this "not killing Grandma" shit is that depression among Senior Citizens is skyrocketing. Why? Becuase they're fucking lonely!

Old people don't want to be protected. I know some that do, but they also believe every word CNN tells them. A lot of old people are like "fuck it, I'm old, I don't care."

The WORST thing you can do to old people is to not visit them. Especially if they have big families. They've spent their entire lives surrounded by loved ones. No shit, they are going to get depressed if their loved ones stop coming over to visit them!

Then I have to hear about this dumb bullshit how people are selfish because "some of us haven't seen our families in 10 months" THAT'S ON YOU!!! Go put on a mask and go see your fucking family! Even if you have to all wear masks and meet up in a park or something.
 
The weirdest part about all this "not killing Grandma" shit is that depression among Senior Citizens is skyrocketing. Why? Becuase they're fucking lonely!

Old people don't want to be protected. I know some that do, but they also believe every word CNN tells them. A lot of old people are like "fuck it, I'm old, I don't care."

The WORST thing you can do to old people is to not visit them. Especially if they have big families. They've spent their entire lives surrounded by loved ones. No shit, they are going to get depressed if their loved ones stop coming over to visit them!

Then I have to hear about this dumb bullshit how people are selfish because "some of us haven't seen our families in 10 months" THAT'S ON YOU!!! Go put on a mask and go see your fucking family! Even if you have to all wear masks and meet up in a park or something.
Ignoring your family is pretty damn selfish. But then again most people are entirely selfish these days.
 
Ignoring your family is pretty damn selfish. But then again most people are entirely selfish these days.
It's amazing listening to the Chicago's Teachers Union for example, and all of their concerns are about how dangerous it is FOR THEM. A lot of them legit don't give a fuck about the kids.

Then the great irony of them using this as a racial/white supremacy issue. If anything, the teachers refusing to go to work is hurting the black kids that actually want an education or the black parents that need the kids to go to school so they can go to work.
 
I've mentioned this before, but New York State parks have already announced that no permits for outdoor events will be given for the entirety of 2021. I know some of these events need permits now because of months of planning necessary, but the fact that NYSPR has already come out and said 2021 is cancelled bodes ill.
This really has to suck. There is a niche hobby with an event hosted each summer in New York state that draws a lot of people, their families, and other interested fans. If it gets cancelled for a second year in a row, it's going to be a big blow to the host venue and the surrounding hotels/business that normally make brisk business that weekend from everyone being there for the event. Meanwhile, local and state governments can't figure out why their tax revenue is down even when's it obvious that the draconian COVID restrictions being imposed mean less tax money is being generated when people are out of work and/or spending less.

I was lurking on a forum for priests and deacons and someone asked "how many parishioners do you think you have permanently lost from your parish due to the lockdowns?" As in they stopped coming at the start of the stay home orders, and they will never come back either because they are too scared to or some other reason. I figured my estimate, about 30%, was insanely pessimistic, but it's based on what I observe at my church, between who actually shows and how many hits our livestream gets. But the priests were estimating anywhere between 40-70%. Because they have heard from many people privately that they are just never going to be comfortable sitting in a pew next to a brother in faith again, drinking from the cup together, sharing a paschal or Christmas feast together, hugging and handshaking at weddings and funerals. Some will keep watching church on teevee, which is pathetic and gay, and some have figured out the fake and gayness of that and just decided to give up completely.
Church attendance is already low in the US as it is (around 30% tops, maybe,for Christian denominations, I think?) even despite brief upticks in times of crisis such as 9/11 or the holidays of Christmas and Easter. I imagine the decrease in participation numbers will be higher for churches whose congregations are much older and thus more vulnerable to COVID. These are the people who will probably watch "Mass for Shut-ins" (or its equivalent) if they lack the technical know how to watch their church's live-streamed service. Others, as you point out, will decide that there's no subsititute for in-person worship and simply give up on practicng their faith. I'll be curious to see what some of the die-hard young adult Catholics do in my region -- especially those who believed pre-COVID that there was never a good excuse for missing Mass each Sunday.

On the up side, those who still want to support their churches have taken advantage of online giving programs or still send in their contributions. However, I imagine there will be many churches that have to tighten their belts when their next fiscal year ends and some might have to consider merging or closing outright if they can't sustain themselves financially.

The weirdest part about all this "not killing Grandma" shit is that depression among Senior Citizens is skyrocketing. Why? Becuase they're fucking lonely!
And don't forget that many seniors that stay active do so because they feel they have a purpose in life. I knew a 90-something who ran her own business up until the last 6 weeks she lived. Once her health slipped too much and she couldn't go to work any more, she lost the will and her reason to live. COVID made it worse because nobody was allowed to visit her when she was in the nursing home for the last month or so she was alive. Small wonder people were mad on and offline about what happened with nursing homes.

It's amazing listening to the Chicago's Teachers Union for example, and all of their concerns are about how dangerous it is FOR THEM. A lot of them legit don't give a fuck about the kids.

Then the great irony of them using this as a racial/white supremacy issue. If anything, the teachers refusing to go to work is hurting the black kids that actually want an education or the black parents that need the kids to go to school so they can go to work.
I always find it funny when the teachers unions for inner-city districts such as Detroit, Chicago, LA, etc. threaten work stoppages or actually walk the picket lines because they feel the school board doesn't care about the students that have fallen behind on their education. Since COVID became a thing, the teachers unions in these cities have turned blind eyes and deaf ears to the parents who want in-person instruction so that their kids don't fall behind more than they already have -- the same kids these unions rally behind when they demand better working conditions and opportunities during contract negotiations.

While I'll agree it's reasonable for the unions to request that school districts have something in place to protect/help vulnerable teachers concerned about COVID, a flat-out refusal to allow classroom instruction is short-sighted at best and detrimental to the students at worst.
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This really has to suck. There is a niche hobby with an event hosted each summer in New York state that draws a lot of people, their families, and other interested fans. If it gets cancelled for a second year in a row, it's going to be a big blow to the host venue and the surrounding hotels/business that normally make brisk business that weekend from everyone being there for the event. Meanwhile, local and state governments can't figure out why their tax revenue is down even when's it obvious that the draconian COVID restrictions being imposed mean less tax money is being generated when people are out of work and/or spending less.
Are you talking about the MusselMan triathon, which was bought out by Ironman?

Ironman Lake Placid? That event is big for that city, especially near the old 1980 US Hockey championship win there.

Maybe not; I would imagine a lot of events got cancelled last year.
 
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