shoe0nhead thread derailment

[BoxerShorts47]

You're restricting the ideology to the western sphere of politics, characterised by bitching at comics and video games. "Feminists" outside of western countries have legitimate grievances that goes far beyond whores in video games. I can't believe I have to say this. Russia decided it was a good idea to get rid of domestic violence laws to be more "Eastern Orthodox", what happened? Domestic violence cases rose ten times, 1000%+, that's in a country already very violent towards the weaker. It's not those fake hate crime stats citing 300%, but in reality it's 1 case increased to 3, probably due to population increase.

1. I'll play Devil's advocate here. I've met women who legit need to be slapped. 100%. Women who are acting rude and disrespectful. You have no ability to do anything about the bitch problem in America because of these types of laws.

There is a famous video with Sean Connery discussing this subject

https://youtu.be/oo0d1zTAFKA

Many of the old John Wayne Westerns show him getting physical with women.

So I'm not any expert in Russia's law but I do support decriminalizing violence in certain situations, e.g. duals or disrespect. Russia's law doesn't look too bad to me. We'll see if their society becomes more or less healthy as a result but I refuse this western idea that the best west society is one with 0 violence and I think that's part of the reason the west is soo weak and degenerate today.

Russia decriminalized domestic violence in cases where it does not cause "substantial bodily harm" (such as broken bones or a concussion)[36] and does not happen more than once a year.[37] As a result, domestic violence increased[38][39] while reporting declined sharply, and police began to refuse to investigate domestic violence cases.[2]

2. I find it very offensive that you believe that you have a right to tell Russia (or any other nation) how they should behave. Well by your own logic, the Russians have a right to tell you to follow their domestic violence policies. Your internalized imperialism soo offensive. The rest of the world isn't your subject and you don't have any right to tell any other nation how to behave. Soo offensive and you would never allow other nations to change your values to match theirs.

 

[draggs]

1. I'll play Devil's advocate here. I've met women who legit need to be slapped. 100%. Women who are acting rude and disrespectful. You have no ability to do anything about the bitch problem in America because of these types of laws.

There is a famous video with Sean Connery discussing this subject

https://youtu.be/oo0d1zTAFKA

Many of the old John Wayne Westerns show him getting physical with women.

So I'm not any expert in Russia's law but I do support decriminalizing violence in certain situations, e.g. duals or disrespect. Russia's law doesn't look too bad to me. We'll see if their society becomes more or less healthy as a result but I refuse this western idea that the best west society is one with 0 violence and I think that's part of the reason the west is soo weak and degenerate today.



2. I find it very offensive that you believe that you have a right to tell Russia (or any other nation) how they should behave. Well by your own logic, the Russians have a right to tell you to follow their domestic violence policies. Your internalized imperialism soo offensive. The rest of the world isn't your subject and you don't have any right to tell any other nation how to behave. Soo offensive and you would never allow other nations to change your values to match theirs.

Most women don't deserve to be flogged like you do

In fact no woman does

Not even Juwu

What do beet niggers have to do with shoe looking like the corpse bride again

She needs to get off the internet and find a moderately well-established man she is on the edge of too used up to come back from

 

[3.14159265359]

I think the two still follow each other to this day? I thought they had a fallout because Southern is a lot more "right wing" than Breadtube fucks can accept.

(FYI, some of them think Stalinist Soviet Russia was state capitalist)


How?


You're restricting the ideology to the western sphere of politics, characterised by bitching at comics and video games. "Feminists" outside of western countries have legitimate grievances that goes far beyond whores in video games. I can't believe I have to say this. Russia decided it was a good idea to get rid of domestic violence laws to be more "Eastern Orthodox", what happened? Domestic violence cases rose ten times, 1000%+, that's in a country already very violent towards the weaker. It's not those fake hate crime stats citing 300%, but in reality it's 1 case increased to 3, probably due to population increase.

There's not much to say about inclusion over merit when you're stuffed in a bag or beaten to death and the state allows it, or just aborted because some shithole village in China wants a boy to grow crops.

These people might not even call themselves feminists, by they are for all intense and purposes feminists by western definitions. I suppose if we go by that logic, then you're probably right?

Not buying another CNN narrative. Do you really think russia decided to encourage wife beating or are you having propaganda rammed down your throat by the same types who claimed that every super bowl was wife battering day. The idea that the russian justice system is a soft touch is just laughable. The assumed norm they are criticizing russia from is the junk science duluth model which has become the basis of western laws on such matters. As far as I can tell the orthodox simply wanted equal judgement applied inside and outside of family situations, whereas the west is applying special laws for special people "hate crimes" style.

Increase 10 times, yea I'm doubting that. "Its not like those fake hate crime stats", no its even more laughable, pure cartoon brazen gaslighting, just when the left needs to demonize russia such stats are fabricated, very convenient.

Go look into the "naked protest femen" activism in ukraine before it all went down during the Obama administration as foreign forces attempted to sow societal discord in countries they were trying to interfere with and control.

This stuff is just narrative control, the same way they have tried to frame wall street bets as nazis, I'm sure they even beat their wives as well

 

[Lemmingwise]

And since @Lemmingwise didn't say it-- Alfred Kinsey was either a hack that fabricated data, or a child molester.

Alfred Kinsey was both. Well not quite. It's a little more detailed. I'll get back to that. But he certainly was both a misrepresenter of data and a child molester by proxy. He paid parents to molest their children and see how quickly they could be brought to orgasm. He also had them record their responses in a couple of categories, which included "writhing" "crying" "fighting". They were all considered to have gained from the experience because they were brought to orgasm. Each in their category 0-1 years old, 1-2. Up to 12 years of age.

He also convinced the american public that 1 in 5 men is gay, when his sample was overwhelmingly men in prison. If they had been raped by a man, they would be regarded as homosexual. Not only that, but the only ones participating were those who replied to a posting about participating in sex study, something that a later Princeton study showed receives overwhelmingly more sexually active and deviant people. But he used this sample as "average low income male". Just as he later used prostitutes living with their pimp as "low income married couples". Which was then used to convince the american public that illegal risky abortions were rampant. They were. Among prostitutes.

I don't have any evidence that he fabricated data. Plenty of his methods are suspect and there's reason for doubt. But the fact that he misrepresented data can be proven using only his own materials and I prefer to base my position on what can be proven.

Bisexuality isn't "real" because our current conception of sexual orientation is only a couple centuries old-- prior to, you had "sex that gets penetrated" and "sex that penetrates", and the reason why bottoms were broadly despised

Is there any evidence for sexual orientation before Alfred Kinsey? I am under the impression that it started with him.

Also, nice powerleveling, @Lemmingwise and nice basing your entire view on a sexuality on one person you fucked.

I clearly didn't if you read more carefully. I'll even powerlevel further. I've met a lot of people who publicly show themselves as bisexuals. Maybe even one or two authors you have read if you're interested in the subject. They know what image they have to cultivate once the audience shows up. But before during the preperations, they aren't wearing their mask and they don't act the same way or say the same things compare to when the audience shows up. So I'm basing that perspective on an entire community, a community of well-respected people in their fields. And that's just my anecdotal observations. It's a supplement to the research that you could pick up today and find out for yourself if you're genuinely interested in the subject rather than trying to quickly dismiss an idea that goes against your dogmatic position.

Absolutely. Citing an OKCupid study to prove bisexuality doesn't exist is stupid. There are like 10 men to every one woman on dating apps. A woman trying to find another woman that is attracted to her on a regular dating app is difficult, not to mention men are more likely to start a conversation (and they get less matches). If someone wants to be in a same-sex relationship, they're not going on OKCupid. They're going on Grindr or Bumble or whatever lesbians use.

Grinder and Bumble didn't exist back then and at the time the gender split on okcupid was pretty equal. You have to remember that okcupid at the time was 50% a site where people could make random tests for each others and finding out what type of rainbow you are attracted girls like flies, even if you weren't sure they were even single.

I agree that it is a bit much to call okcupid's data analysis a "study", but it doesn't mean their findings mean nothing either, to see how people behave.

 

[EyelessMC]

And since @Lemmingwise didn't say it-- Alfred Kinsey was either a hack that fabricated data, or a child molester.

Do some people really not know about Alfred Kinsey and the Nazi pedophile? The father of the sexual revolution and the icon every idiot who thinks homosexuality is immutable or that there's a "gradation" of gay (the biggest argument from trapfags) or that babies seemingly masturbating in the womb = children can consent to sex or some retarded crap was a sexual deviant who died while choking himself and jerking off, as I recall.
Pornman Hugh Hefner viewed himself as Kinsey's pamphlet man because he was so taken in by Kinsey's books on male and female sexuality. He kept adoring him even after Kinsey produced his book on childhood sexuality--a book which helped inform Sex Ed in public schools
A book chiefly developed from data taken from pedophiles:

People need to stop taking their worldview and knowledge of sexuality from criminals and perverts.

Jesus, how close must you be to rock bottom to have even Don Sargone dunking on you?

When someone like that starts smugly chuckling at you and has a valid point it should be a time of realization and taking stock in one's self.
June is a problem to herself.

We luckily didn't let her cross the border. She is not our problem.

You make it sound like Canada would've given America some kind of human STD

 

[KateHikes14]

You're restricting the ideology to the western sphere of politics, characterised by bitching at comics and video games. "Feminists" outside of western countries have legitimate grievances that goes far beyond whores in video games. I can't believe I have to say this. Russia decided it was a good idea to get rid of domestic violence laws to be more "Eastern Orthodox", what happened? Domestic violence cases rose ten times, 1000%+, that's in a country already very violent towards the weaker. It's not those fake hate crime stats citing 300%, but in reality it's 1 case increased to 3, probably due to population increase.

There's not much to say about inclusion over merit when you're stuffed in a bag or beaten to death and the state allows it, or just aborted because some shithole village in China wants a boy to grow crops.

These people might not even call themselves feminists, by they are for all intense and purposes feminists by western definitions. I suppose if we go by that logic, then you're probably right?

>Decriminalize something
>that crime goes up 1000%+
>nothing like "hate crime" laws

 

[Lemmingwise]

People need to stop taking their worldview and knowledge of sexuality from criminals and perverts.

Good luck with that. Kinsey institute is still rockefeller funded and still cited in studies relating to sexuality pretty much on the daily.

But let's move back to June

Does anyone have any video or tweet where she hints at wanting to be a war bride? I'm in need of a good laugh.

 

[Rekkington]

Russia decided it was a good idea to get rid of domestic violence laws to be more "Eastern Orthodox", what happened? Domestic violence cases rose ten times, 1000%+, that's in a country already very violent towards the weaker.

I bet cases of mouthy broads fell by 1000% too.

 

[RazorBackBacon]

Most women don't deserve to be flogged like you do

In fact no woman does

Hard disagree. Lots of cunts out there deserve a hard crack across the mouth.

Lots of cocks, too, but now we're getting OT.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

I don't have any evidence that he fabricated data. Plenty of his methods are suspect and there's reason for doubt. But the fact that he misrepresented data can be proven using only his own materials and I prefer to base my position on what can be proven.

I didn't realize that he paid parents to molest their children-- I actually thought that if he wasn't a child molester, he was relying on accounts of people claiming that they had an orgasm at 1 year old, knowing full well there's no way they'd be able to attest to that, in essence fabricating data.

Is there any evidence for sexual orientation before Alfred Kinsey? I am under the impression that it started with him.

Well, yeah.

One of the earliest sexual orientation classification schemes was proposed in the 1860s by Karl Heinrich Ulrichs in a series of pamphlets he published privately.[76] The classification scheme, which was meant only to describe males, separated them into three basic categories: dionings, urnings and uranodionings. An urning can be further categorized by degree of effeminacy. These categories directly correspond with the categories of sexual orientation used today: heterosexual, homosexual, and bisexual. In the series of pamphlets, Ulrichs outlined a set of questions to determine if a man was an urning. The definitions of each category of Ulrichs' classification scheme are as follows:

• Dioning – Comparable to the modern term "heterosexual"
• Urning – Comparable to the modern term "homosexual"
  • Mannling – A manly urning
  • Weibling – An effeminate urning
  • Zwischen – A somewhat manly and somewhat effeminate urning
  • Virilised – An urning that sexually behaves like a dioning
• Urano-Dioning – Comparable to the modern term "bisexual"

From at least the late nineteenth century in Europe, there was speculation that the range of human sexual response looked more like a continuum than two or three discrete categories. Berlin sexologist Magnus Hirschfeld published a scheme in 1896 that measured the strength of an individual's sexual desire on two independent 10-point scales, A (homosexual) and B (heterosexual).[77] A heterosexual individual may be A0, B5; a homosexual individual may be A5, B0; an asexual would be A0, B0; and someone with an intense attraction to both sexes would be A9, B9.

The father of the sexual revolution and the icon every idiot who thinks homosexuality is immutable or that there's a "gradation" of gay (the biggest argument from trapfags) or that babies seemingly masturbating in the womb = children can consent to sex or some retarded crap was a sexual deviant who died while choking himself and jerking off, as I recall.

Either that's not the case or they covered up his true cause of death with "heart ailment" and "pneumonia".

>Decriminalize something
>that crime goes up 1000%+
>nothing like "hate crime" laws

Now what I'm wondering is how domestic violence rates went up when they wouldn't be tracking it because it's no longer a crime, in effect. Is that statistic an extrapolation?

 

[Lemmingwise]

I didn't realize that he paid parents to molest their children-- I actually thought that if he wasn't a child molester, he was relying on accounts of people claiming that they had an orgasm at 1 year old, knowing full well there's no way they'd be able to attest to that, in essence fabricating data.

It's worth pointing out that a person who came out about that did so under a pseudonym. But there were multiple interviews and comparing to my research what I know about the methods, it seemed credible to me.

Victim of notorious sex experiments speaks out

Editor's note: The following report is part of WND's ongoing, multipart investigation into alleged crimes committed by sex-research pioneer Alfred Kinsey and his Kinsey Institute. WASHINGTON – On Oct. 1, the federal government made a high-profile apology for experiments conducted in Guatemala...

www.wnd.com

I've also seen videos of the interviews she gave, but it seems to be gone post-youtube purge.

The only thing you need her testimony for is the claim that they were paid for it. Kinsey's research notes themselves are enough to prove the claim that babies and children being brought to orgasm by parental stimulation was studied.

 

[EyelessMC]

Either that's not the case or they covered up his true cause of death with "heart ailment" and "pneumonia".

Actually it seems like it:

https://archive.is/ACkt6 How did Kinsey's sordid science manage to invade our sex ed programs?
It began with the death of Kinsey in August, 1956, shortly after his return from Europe. The official cause of his death was pneumonia brought on by overwork and an enlarged heart. However, other evidence points to complications from what Kinsey called a "pelvic infection," but was actually diagnosed as orchitis.

Orchitis is marked by pain and swelling of the genitals usually caused by gonorrhea, syphilis, filarial disease or tuberculosis. The condition usually follows some kind of trauma, which Kinsey regularly inflicted upon himself by his compulsive genital self-mutilation and other sado-masochistic behaviors.

Reisman writes, "The sexual revolution faced a potentially serious setback were it widely known that the theoretical father of the movement had died from an advanced stage of sadosexual autoerotic (masturbatory) activity." Kinsey vehemently denied the danger of contracting sexual diseases as a result of the perversions he advocated. For this reason, his death could never be attributed to such causes.
After his death, long-time Kinsey staff members Wardell Pomeroy, Clyde Martin and Paul Gebhard remained at the Institute and began to train others in Kinsey's "New Biology."

Kinsey was a deviant retard.

It jumpscared me for real

Almost reminded me of Pumpkin head for some reason when I first saw that frame. Like around the forehead or something.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Actually it seems like it:

Kinsey was a deviant retard.

The person cited doesn't have anything in the way of citations for her claim...

 

[Bitchtroll]

1. I'll play Devil's advocate here. I've met women who legit need to be slapped. 100%. Women who are acting rude and disrespectful. You have no ability to do anything about the bitch problem in America because of these types of laws.

There is a famous video with Sean Connery discussing this subject

https://youtu.be/oo0d1zTAFKA

Many of the old John Wayne Westerns show him getting physical with women.

So I'm not any expert in Russia's law but I do support decriminalizing violence in certain situations, e.g. duals or disrespect. Russia's law doesn't look too bad to me. We'll see if their society becomes more or less healthy as a result but I refuse this western idea that the best west society is one with 0 violence and I think that's part of the reason the west is soo weak and degenerate today.



2. I find it very offensive that you believe that you have a right to tell Russia (or any other nation) how they should behave. Well by your own logic, the Russians have a right to tell you to follow their domestic violence policies. Your internalized imperialism soo offensive. The rest of the world isn't your subject and you don't have any right to tell any other nation how to behave. Soo offensive and you would never allow other nations to change your values to match theirs.

If you have to beat someone for being disrespectful then you have anger problems. Just call them a cunt and walk away lmao

Hard disagree. Lots of cunts out there deserve a hard crack across the mouth.

Lots of cocks, too, but now we're getting OT.

Thats a long way of saying "nobody wants to fuck me'

 

[BoxerShorts47]

I'm not sure if I really buy the whole "all women are bi" narrative, given how I've seen women treat other women.

I don't remember where I heard the quote, but there's a saying to the effect of "Men and women are alike in that neither trust women." Women tend to flock together, be it at the mall, school, or the bathroom, in order to not be isolated or talked about by their peers. It's a principle of "hold you friends close, and your enemies closer." If you buy into evolutionary psychology, it may be a defense mechanism to keep from being isolated from the group, and thus be vulnerable to outside threats. There is no "sisterhood" per se among peers: only enlightened self-interest.

As you've mentioned, the feminine form is naturally eye-catching. Some women feel aroused by looking at their own bodies. But that's a whole different ballgame than wanting to be in a committed relationship. Another joke about Lesbians is that they tend to bring with them a U-Haul just to carry the emotional baggage they tend to lug around with them.

Yet, June seems to have a difficult time developing friendships with anyone, much less be in a committed sexual relationship.

That's just GLAAD propaganda from a few decades ago. The left always put out propaganda to brainwash people. e.g. gay dog or medical marijuana.

I think many women would be okay with polygamy but that's not the same as being bi-sexual or wanting a committed relationship with other women.

If you have to beat someone for being disrespectful then you have anger problems. Just call them a cunt and walk away lmao

1. Lmao is a sign of insecurity.
2. No. Because those people will go on the disrespect other people.
3. Anger is a perfectly valid human emotion. This war against humanity needs to end, war against hate. war against anger.

 

[draggs]

If you have to beat someone for being disrespectful then you have anger problems. Just call them a cunt and walk away lmao


Thats a long way of saying "nobody wants to fuck me'

Nothing identifies a socially and sexually incompetent male better than they flip out when the suggestion that men should not hit women is made. @IncelSharts47 @RazorBackIncel

 

[Bad Take Crucifier]

3. Anger is a perfectly valid human emotion. This war against humanity needs to end, war against hate. war against anger.

>"I would literally beat women"
>"noooo anger is valid when it's against bad things like war"
>"don't be angry with me for thinking violence to women is funnee"

Also I thought you were permanently confined to your personal "debate me" troll thread where everyone shits on you. I guess your ban ran out lmao. Anyway if you're going to troll, please become actually funny.

 

[The best and greatest]

If you have to beat someone for being disrespectful then you have anger problems. Just call them a cunt and walk away lmao

Imma play devil's advocate here.

You know those guys who are unlucky enough to get into a protracted relationship with a crazy dysfunctional womanchild and havea kid with her?

I give them a pass, because there genuinely are times were such people become so irrational crazy and violent that the only way to set them right is the laying on of hands and to send them into another room so they can cry on their phone to anyone who will listen about how "He hit me again!" after she wakes him up a few hours before he goes to work at one in the morning drinking and screaming at the top of her lungs throwing shit around for an hour saying all kinds of mean spite filled nasty shit she can think of. Its legitimately some exorcist tier shit where they have like a devil inside them making them go berzerk and its honestly terrifying to be asleep in the floor above them and be shaken awake by a loud bang and drunken screaming. Do not blame my boi at ALL for laying hands on that bitch, even if he was wrong for doing it.

 

[scathefire]

Imma play devil's advocate here.

You know those guys who are unlucky enough to get into a protracted relationship with a crazy dysfunctional womanchild and havea kid with her?

I give them a pass, because there genuinely are times were such people become so irrational crazy and violent that the only way to set them right is the laying on of hands and to send them into another room so they can cry on their phone to anyone who will listen about how "He hit me again!" after she wakes him up a few hours before he goes to work at one in the morning drinking and screaming at the top of her lungs throwing shit around for an hour saying all kinds of mean spite filled nasty shit she can think of. Its legitimately some exorcist tier shit where they have like a devil inside them making them go berzerk and its honestly terrifying to be asleep in the floor above them and be shaken awake by a loud bang and drunken screaming. Do not blame my boi at ALL for laying hands on that bitch, even if he was wrong for doing it.

Dude, why do you feel the need to come up with these elaborate fantasies wherein it gives you an excuse to put your hands on someone weaker than you? How hard is it just to have basic decency and not physically abuse your wife? If a man gets into a protracted relationship with a crazy dysfunctional womanchild, that's his own damn fault. Don't stick your dick in crazy.

 

[The best and greatest]

Dude, why do you feel the need to come up with these elaborate fantasies wherein it gives you an excuse to put your hands on someone weaker than you? How hard is it just to have basic decency and not physically abuse your wife? If a man gets into a protracted relationship with crazy dysfunctional womanchild, that's his own damn fault. Don't stick your dick in crazy.

Its not a fantasy

This shit actually happened and went on for months and months and I was party to a lot of it. Im not saying that makes it "Right" but I understand it. The flesh is weak and a person's patience is finite.

As for how hard it is to not abuse your wife, I guess about as hard as it is for a wife to not abuse her husband. Turns out its pretty hard for a lot of people.

Also these people werent married lul they were "Perpetually engaged"