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Some MTF's get hair restoration treatment to deal with male hairlines but then it doesn't really do that much.
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Madako-Tako
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They look a little bit better atleast...?
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They still look like men, holy shit. What a haul these cosmetic industries are making, with absolutely zero accountability or liability.
Garbage.Theory
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I suspect it’s because the skin used to be on the outside and the “vaginal lining” isn’t technically internal in this case. Most of our internal bits don’t grow substantial hair (old man nose/ear hair notwithstanding) so I’m guessing it’s not really something that’s been heavily researched.
Oh I used to get evangelical Christians calling me a racist Nazi because I accepted evolution and social Darwinism is loosely connected to that! Another coin in the jar for horseshoe theory
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Governor Jeb Bush
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FOUND something fascinating. The first sex change was actually performed in 1903, using the penile inversion method (something the media claim was invented in the 1950s!). On a 'pseudohermaphrodite', this person had a strange appearance from what is listed in this 1903 medical journal. Fascinating as fuck honestly.
Oh and within the notes pages, it claims that someone had done an operation similar in the 1880s. (wow)
I warn it's a fairly big article but is so interesting and there's some images, that are sorta gross but quite eye-opening.
I have re-formatted it into paragraphs for easier reading!
Oh and within the notes pages, it claims that someone had done an operation similar in the 1880s. (wow)
I warn it's a fairly big article but is so interesting and there's some images, that are sorta gross but quite eye-opening.
I have re-formatted it into paragraphs for easier reading!
The patient was referred to me February 28, 1903, by the family physician living in one of the suburbs of New York, and gave the following history;
E.C., aged twenty years, born in New York State, of Irish parentage; father and mother both living, also four brothers and four sisters, all of whom, as far as she knows, are strong and well and normal in every way.
Patient has never menstruated; was strong and well till four years ago; weighed 120 pounds, but has gradually lost flesh year by year, and now weighs only 99 pounds.
She was educated in the public schools and graduated from the grammar school two years ago ; has a weak stomach and occasional attacks of indigestion.
She has never had any girl love affairs or been attracted passionately by any girl, but has been attracted by boys; says that "that thing" (the clitoris) began to develop to a noticeable degree when the hair began to develop on the pubes, fourteen to fifteen years of age; played with it some at that time and experienced pleasurable sensations therefrom; has erections at times and at first feels that it is pleasant, but eventually dis appoints and annoys her; wants to get rid of “the growth.”
In deportment the patient was somewhat shy and modest, and gave the impression that she did not care to reveal the facts she had stated, but was determined to get relief, and had decided to go through whatever ordeal was necessary to secure it. She came to my office alone, and heavily veiled to conceal the growth of hair upon her lip, face, and chin. In appearance she showed feminine taste in dress, which was neat and in good style.
PHYSICAL EXAMINATION.
- Height, 5 feet 17 / 8 inches.
- Weight, 100 pounds at present.
- Gait, feminine in character.
- Voice, feminine, with occasional male tendency.
- Hair growth on the head coarse, abundant, and black; eyebrows black and heavy, meet between the eyes
hair on upper lip well developed; on chin well developed; also strong growth in front of ears to angle of jaw. Growth is sparse between angle and chin. Chin is square and jaw heavy, otherwise face is female type; features are small; eyes are brown.
- Arms not well developed, hair growth abundant.
- Hands medium in size ; fingers square and strong , with large joints .
- Neck larger than normal for a female.
- Mammary Gland . No mammary development; neither fat nor glandular tissue, strictly male type.
- Areola dark brown and about 14 inch in extent from nipple. It is encircled by small black hairs.
- Abdomen. Longitudinal hair line well developed from one inch above umbilicus to pubic hair, which is very thick. There is no transverse abdominal hair line.
- Spine .No deformity. Lower Extremities. Hair growth excessive.
- Pelvis flaring . Measurements : Interspinal , 271 / 2 cm . ; inter crestal , 281 / 2 cm . ; external conjugate , 18 cm .
- Heart, normal.
- Lungs, normal.
On examining the genitals the enlarged clitoris with prominent glans, as shown in Fig . 1, obtruded itself and became erectile on the slightest touch.
It was surrounded with a corona of hair and surmounted on the mons veneris with a luxuriant tuft.
An excessive growth of hair covered all the surrounding parts and ex tended down on to the thighs.
The clitoris measured three inches in length and three and a half inches in circumference.
The fore skin could be drawn forward on to the glans , but retracted strongly in erection.
The clitoris was restricted in its action as in chordee hy a broad frenum, which reached from near the glans down to the under surface of the symphysis and disappeared with in a little opening one - quarter of an inch in diameter, the urogenital cleft.
A narrow strip of mucous membrane ran along the free border of the frenum as in cases of hypospadias . The clitoris was impervious and the meatus urinarius could not be discovered. Below the introitus was a broad perineum reaching to the anus.
The vaginal opening took a Peaslee sound readily to the depth of four and a half inches and the caliber of the canal seemed to enlarge at the distal end . Under bimanual manipulation with finger in the rectum no internal generative organs could be out lined except a cord - like extension from the upper end of the vagina.
(my note - the fuck?)
The patient insisted that “the growth” was a great annoyance, that it made her different from other girls, and she wanted it taken off. When asked if she preferred to be made like a man or woman, said decidedly "a woman.” Accordingly she was sent to the Polyclinic Hospital, and the operation was done March 11, 1903, in the presence of the class and some invited guests.
Fig . 1 . (ABOVE) - Appearance before operating. The round black spot below the clitoris shows opening to vagina. From its upper border a strip of mucous membrane extended to the glans along the free border of the frenum. Mucous membrane covered the median line of perineum for two inches toward the anus; shows light in the picture.
Operation .
— With the patient under ether and the parts shaved and sterilized, by a little steady pressure I gradually insinuated my little finger into the urogenital cleft to its full length and then the index finger, being careful to dilate* rather than tear.
(*first use of the word dilate in relation to neo-vag?!?!?!)
At the depth of two and a half inches a strong constricting band of dense, resisting tissue was encountered, through which my finger was forced with difficulty. With the tissue put upon the stretch by bearing down with this finger strongly on the perineum two lateral incisions (one on either side) were made with scissors from the outer edge of the canal to and including the constricting band . The depth of these incisions went only through the vaginal sheath.
By firm pressure first with one finger in the urogenital cleft and then with two these incisions were torn deep into the tissues, resisting strands being snipped as they presented. In this way the caliber of the cleft was enlarged to a diameter of two and a half inches.
At this juncture the meatus urinarius was searched for and discovered just under the internal border of the symphysis pubis, and a catheter passed, demonstrated the position of the bladder and the presence of urine.
Fig. 2. (ABOVE) — The clitoris after removal, the skin having been dissected.
The skin adjacent to the vulva was so harsh and bristled so with hair that it was not available for filling in the lateral gaps in the mucous membrane of the vagina.
The only apparent resource was to allow them to fill up by granulation, when suddenly the thought occurred to me, Why not use the skin covering the clitoris? This was soft and delicate and free from hair.
It was therefore decided upon.
A longitudinal incision was made along the dorsum of the clitoris and another along the ventral surface, and a circular incision just back of the corona of the glans.
These flaps were carefully dissected off down to the base of the clitoris and left attached. The base of the clitoris was transfixed inside the flap with chromic gut and cut away. ( Fig .2.) The flaps of skin with their bases still attached were drawn down into the urogenital cleft and stitched in position on either side by catgut sutures, care being taken to make them reach in as far as possible by dragging down the skin upon the mons veneris and abdomen and holding it in place by firm straps of adhesive plaster passed around under each thigh.
The clitoris measuring three and a half inches in circumference, afforded two flaps, each one and a half inches wide, growing broader at the base.
These together with the anterior and posterior strips of membrane of the cleft made a vaginal canal of goodly proportions. The strip of mucous membrane on the under surface of the frenum was saved, drawn up and stitched to the stump of the clitoris.
The purpose of this was to give support to the urethra and maintain its normal position. It also made a vestibule beneath the stump of the clitoris. The stump was covered with the skin from the mons as it was drawn down by the adhesive plaster.
Fig.3. (ABOVE) — Glass tube in place during convalescence; the
patient's hand holds the tube. (First dilation!)
There was considerable hemorrhage from the lateral incisions, but no large vessels were incised, and what hemorrhage occurred was controlled by applications of adrenalin chlorid. The vaginal canal was packed moderately full of iodoform gauze, sufficient pressure being made to smooth out the skin flaps and bring their entire surface in contact with the underlying tissue.
(my note - exactly like SRS today, fascinating)
A self - retaining catheter was inserted into the bladder.
The dressings were removed on the fourth day and a glass tube substituted in the vagina to maintain pressure upon the flaps and secure its calibre, as shown in Fig .3.
The entire wound healed! by first intention and the patient left the hospital at the end of four weeks .Fig. 2 shows the exact size of the clitoris after being stripped of skin and removed.
Fig .4. (ABOVE) - Photograph three weeks after operation.
Fig .4 shows the condition at the end of four weeks. The vagina closed snugly, but readily admitted two fingers and permitted of further dilatation by slight pressure. Later digital and specular examinations revealed a small cervix at the head of the vagina, which took a small sound to the depth of one and three - quarter inches. A small gland could also be made out on the left side, but it had more the feel and shape of an enlarged lymphatic, although it may be a rudimentary ovary
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TLDR - Penile inversion of a hermaphrodite in 1903. That's one for the history books.
E.C., aged twenty years, born in New York State, of Irish parentage; father and mother both living, also four brothers and four sisters, all of whom, as far as she knows, are strong and well and normal in every way.
Patient has never menstruated; was strong and well till four years ago; weighed 120 pounds, but has gradually lost flesh year by year, and now weighs only 99 pounds.
She was educated in the public schools and graduated from the grammar school two years ago ; has a weak stomach and occasional attacks of indigestion.
She has never had any girl love affairs or been attracted passionately by any girl, but has been attracted by boys; says that "that thing" (the clitoris) began to develop to a noticeable degree when the hair began to develop on the pubes, fourteen to fifteen years of age; played with it some at that time and experienced pleasurable sensations therefrom; has erections at times and at first feels that it is pleasant, but eventually dis appoints and annoys her; wants to get rid of “the growth.”
In deportment the patient was somewhat shy and modest, and gave the impression that she did not care to reveal the facts she had stated, but was determined to get relief, and had decided to go through whatever ordeal was necessary to secure it. She came to my office alone, and heavily veiled to conceal the growth of hair upon her lip, face, and chin. In appearance she showed feminine taste in dress, which was neat and in good style.
PHYSICAL EXAMINATION.
- Height, 5 feet 17 / 8 inches.
- Weight, 100 pounds at present.
- Gait, feminine in character.
- Voice, feminine, with occasional male tendency.
- Hair growth on the head coarse, abundant, and black; eyebrows black and heavy, meet between the eyes
hair on upper lip well developed; on chin well developed; also strong growth in front of ears to angle of jaw. Growth is sparse between angle and chin. Chin is square and jaw heavy, otherwise face is female type; features are small; eyes are brown.
- Arms not well developed, hair growth abundant.
- Hands medium in size ; fingers square and strong , with large joints .
- Neck larger than normal for a female.
- Mammary Gland . No mammary development; neither fat nor glandular tissue, strictly male type.
- Areola dark brown and about 14 inch in extent from nipple. It is encircled by small black hairs.
- Abdomen. Longitudinal hair line well developed from one inch above umbilicus to pubic hair, which is very thick. There is no transverse abdominal hair line.
- Spine .No deformity. Lower Extremities. Hair growth excessive.
- Pelvis flaring . Measurements : Interspinal , 271 / 2 cm . ; inter crestal , 281 / 2 cm . ; external conjugate , 18 cm .
- Heart, normal.
- Lungs, normal.
On examining the genitals the enlarged clitoris with prominent glans, as shown in Fig . 1, obtruded itself and became erectile on the slightest touch.
It was surrounded with a corona of hair and surmounted on the mons veneris with a luxuriant tuft.
An excessive growth of hair covered all the surrounding parts and ex tended down on to the thighs.
The clitoris measured three inches in length and three and a half inches in circumference.
The fore skin could be drawn forward on to the glans , but retracted strongly in erection.
The clitoris was restricted in its action as in chordee hy a broad frenum, which reached from near the glans down to the under surface of the symphysis and disappeared with in a little opening one - quarter of an inch in diameter, the urogenital cleft.
A narrow strip of mucous membrane ran along the free border of the frenum as in cases of hypospadias . The clitoris was impervious and the meatus urinarius could not be discovered. Below the introitus was a broad perineum reaching to the anus.
The vaginal opening took a Peaslee sound readily to the depth of four and a half inches and the caliber of the canal seemed to enlarge at the distal end . Under bimanual manipulation with finger in the rectum no internal generative organs could be out lined except a cord - like extension from the upper end of the vagina.
(my note - the fuck?)
The patient insisted that “the growth” was a great annoyance, that it made her different from other girls, and she wanted it taken off. When asked if she preferred to be made like a man or woman, said decidedly "a woman.” Accordingly she was sent to the Polyclinic Hospital, and the operation was done March 11, 1903, in the presence of the class and some invited guests.
Fig . 1 . (ABOVE) - Appearance before operating. The round black spot below the clitoris shows opening to vagina. From its upper border a strip of mucous membrane extended to the glans along the free border of the frenum. Mucous membrane covered the median line of perineum for two inches toward the anus; shows light in the picture.
Operation .
— With the patient under ether and the parts shaved and sterilized, by a little steady pressure I gradually insinuated my little finger into the urogenital cleft to its full length and then the index finger, being careful to dilate* rather than tear.
(*first use of the word dilate in relation to neo-vag?!?!?!)
At the depth of two and a half inches a strong constricting band of dense, resisting tissue was encountered, through which my finger was forced with difficulty. With the tissue put upon the stretch by bearing down with this finger strongly on the perineum two lateral incisions (one on either side) were made with scissors from the outer edge of the canal to and including the constricting band . The depth of these incisions went only through the vaginal sheath.
By firm pressure first with one finger in the urogenital cleft and then with two these incisions were torn deep into the tissues, resisting strands being snipped as they presented. In this way the caliber of the cleft was enlarged to a diameter of two and a half inches.
At this juncture the meatus urinarius was searched for and discovered just under the internal border of the symphysis pubis, and a catheter passed, demonstrated the position of the bladder and the presence of urine.
Fig. 2. (ABOVE) — The clitoris after removal, the skin having been dissected.
The skin adjacent to the vulva was so harsh and bristled so with hair that it was not available for filling in the lateral gaps in the mucous membrane of the vagina.
The only apparent resource was to allow them to fill up by granulation, when suddenly the thought occurred to me, Why not use the skin covering the clitoris? This was soft and delicate and free from hair.
It was therefore decided upon.
A longitudinal incision was made along the dorsum of the clitoris and another along the ventral surface, and a circular incision just back of the corona of the glans.
These flaps were carefully dissected off down to the base of the clitoris and left attached. The base of the clitoris was transfixed inside the flap with chromic gut and cut away. ( Fig .2.) The flaps of skin with their bases still attached were drawn down into the urogenital cleft and stitched in position on either side by catgut sutures, care being taken to make them reach in as far as possible by dragging down the skin upon the mons veneris and abdomen and holding it in place by firm straps of adhesive plaster passed around under each thigh.
The clitoris measuring three and a half inches in circumference, afforded two flaps, each one and a half inches wide, growing broader at the base.
These together with the anterior and posterior strips of membrane of the cleft made a vaginal canal of goodly proportions. The strip of mucous membrane on the under surface of the frenum was saved, drawn up and stitched to the stump of the clitoris.
The purpose of this was to give support to the urethra and maintain its normal position. It also made a vestibule beneath the stump of the clitoris. The stump was covered with the skin from the mons as it was drawn down by the adhesive plaster.
Fig.3. (ABOVE) — Glass tube in place during convalescence; the
patient's hand holds the tube. (First dilation!)
There was considerable hemorrhage from the lateral incisions, but no large vessels were incised, and what hemorrhage occurred was controlled by applications of adrenalin chlorid. The vaginal canal was packed moderately full of iodoform gauze, sufficient pressure being made to smooth out the skin flaps and bring their entire surface in contact with the underlying tissue.
(my note - exactly like SRS today, fascinating)
A self - retaining catheter was inserted into the bladder.
The dressings were removed on the fourth day and a glass tube substituted in the vagina to maintain pressure upon the flaps and secure its calibre, as shown in Fig .3.
The entire wound healed! by first intention and the patient left the hospital at the end of four weeks .Fig. 2 shows the exact size of the clitoris after being stripped of skin and removed.
Fig .4. (ABOVE) - Photograph three weeks after operation.
Fig .4 shows the condition at the end of four weeks. The vagina closed snugly, but readily admitted two fingers and permitted of further dilatation by slight pressure. Later digital and specular examinations revealed a small cervix at the head of the vagina, which took a small sound to the depth of one and three - quarter inches. A small gland could also be made out on the left side, but it had more the feel and shape of an enlarged lymphatic, although it may be a rudimentary ovary
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TLDR - Penile inversion of a hermaphrodite in 1903. That's one for the history books.
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How's this laser anything ? This looks like a standard hair transplant ? What's the source?
Females don't usually qualify for typical hair transplant methods because if you have hair loss that's diagnosed and it's not one of the hair losses that are temporary you will usually have something called androgenic alopecia. Female pattern baldness can't be curbed by a transplant because it's diffuse, you're losing hair all over your head. You can buy lazer based helmets and combs that are supposed to 'help' but they're probably quack science.
Men tend to get a set pattern of hair loss where they lose what's on top but have a 'ring' around the back so it's possible to take hair from the back of the head and move it forward.
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Transgender Hair Restoration in Seattle & Portland Portland Oregon | Gabel Center
Dr. Gabel been caring for transgender patients from the very early days of his hair restoration surgery practice in Portland, Oregon.
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The horseshoe is helped by it being an evolution of Christianity, with the same missionary zeal and slave morality, but less emphasis on forgiveness and with the promise of an afterlife ditched. Are there any industrialised non-woke Christian countries that haven't been burned by communism first?
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Looks like they had their Twitter deleted but their Tumblr is still there.
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I meant internal as in it’s a hole inside them. Can you fit the equipment in? I have no idea how it works. Aren’t they supposed to get it done before surgery?
Andy Bandy Man
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So i'd like to know data about how long it takes people to identify a tranny on a swipe app, and separate them . When I'm paying attention, I'm rather good, but when I'm tired my performance slips.
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Gotta disagree with you there man. I think every person should have the right to do harm to themselves, and any person should have right to do harm to them if they have their consent.
While I think trans-surgeries are abhorrent, and I wish they would never occur, I think it's very dangerous to give one group (e.g. a government) the right to dictate to an individual what they can or cannot do to their own body.
I don't think it should be up to any individual to tell another individual what they can and cannot do, as long as the actions of that individual does not infringe on the rights of any other individual. So let's say an individual wants to chop their dick off, as long as their surgeon does not lie to them and misrepresent themselves or the procedure, they should be allowed to do so.
For the same reason I believe people should be allowed to take anabolic steroids, performance enhancing or recreational drugs, they should be allowed access to euthanasia, etc. If any person commits a violent crime because anabolic steroids have made them aggressive, let's say, then prosecute them for for the violent acts they've committed. But as long as they're not infringing on the rights of another person, then just let them be.
I think the biggest crime when it comes to SRS, aside from surgeons lying, misleading their patients and providing improper care, is making the taxpayer foot the bill. Now that's coercive and infringing on the rights of the common person, and the reason why I go out of my way to pay as little as I can in taxes.
Sorry for the political rant but I just don't think prohibition is the way to go. People should be allowed to cut their dicks off, but they shouldn't expect anybody else to pay for it.
Really, part of the fucking danger here is that the "reassignment" surgeries are state sanctioned, in many jurisdictions. Just fucking get the state out of it, and let people do whatever they wish.
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While that was certainly a very interesting (and horrifying) read, that person was not a hermaphrodite, as such a thing cannot exist in human nature. Intersex is better used, and as you can see, while this person did appear to have a micro dick and vagina, note the vagina is shallow and didn't connect to an actual cervix. To be a hermaphrodite, you must have both sexual organs of each sex and they must be fully functioning. Which means you can get pregnant while at the same time you are able to impregnate someone else. And outside of futanari porn, that remains impossible for the human species.
Not quite sure what this person had, because while I've briefly read about intersex, I haven't really gotten into in depth reading of the subject, though I probably know more than your average tranny for sure. But I do wonder, if the fact this was the first true case of SRS, how many trannies actually know about this? And is this the reason that they like to falsely claim they're intersex? A thing to ponder on. Though the ones who's actually read about this were probably the old school HSTSs, who were known to try to claim they were really intersex and they got corrective surgery or became intersex because they transitioned. We all know the troons of the current decade are too busy watching porn, anime, and getting validation than researching into their own history, and have to constantly trans dead people to make themselves seem more legit.
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Holy shit it's Mike Stoklasa
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Yeah I don't think that person with the intersex condition is anywhere near the same category as a troon. It sounds like basically they had an oversized clitoris that was removed. They didn't create a "vagina" unless I'm missing something.
Intersex people really get the short end of the stick in these debates. They're not transgender, they're just people born with congenital defects in their reproductive parts. Troons try to appropriate their existence so much that intersex organizations had to start making PSAs of stuff like "no, you almost certainly are not intersex" and "no, intersex is not a third gender".
Intersex people really get the short end of the stick in these debates. They're not transgender, they're just people born with congenital defects in their reproductive parts. Troons try to appropriate their existence so much that intersex organizations had to start making PSAs of stuff like "no, you almost certainly are not intersex" and "no, intersex is not a third gender".
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I'd like to even just know what their dating life is like. Is it wrong to assume the vast majority don't actually have a dating life?
Andy Bandy Man
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I've no idea, I do recall meeting a female-trans couple once, and just being blown away she just accepted the man in the dress, cause this dude didn't even pass.
But maybe like some girls are into wearing the pants in the relationship like that, I've no idea, maybe it's tax reasons?
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I agree and disagree with you, mainly on a few points. The person who is self harming is also harming those who love them. It hurts to see someone you love so intent on destroying themselves and becoming so selfish in their desire that they ignore or lash out when a loved one speaks out against it. They also use classic manipulative and gaslighting tactics to achieve they want. The person harming themselves, whether it be cutting or mutilating their body, starvation, bingeing or purging, gambling themselves into debt, wanting to chop off healthy functioning body parts, stop taking care of themselves, allow their living spaces to become so filthy and littered with trash, it all boils down to addiction. And addiction is most certainly a mental illness. You hear all the time of how someone completely changes in their desire to fuel their addiction. They go from an honest and caring person, to one who lies, steals, commits violent crimes and completely uses and abuses the people around them, and gives no shit about anyone else but themselves and whoever will enable them along.
And you don't understand, if we allow that people are allowed to harm themselves, remember physically it affects people too. Someone has to bandage the wounds if they are too severe, someone has to care for someone who's gotten so fat they can't care for themselves, someone has to call the ambulance so that you don't die from an OD, someone has to take care of you while they try to save your life. The person you just robbed for that money for your next hit certainly will be affected by your self destructive lifestyle. The family will certainly be affected when you mercilessly take their innocent relative's life in a callous disregard for others just so you can harm yourself.
And quite frankly, you remind me of Perro Loco, who ran Cannibal Cafe and now Dolcett's forum. He was certainly of the mind that as long as two people are consenting, who cares what happens? And lo and behold, we have the Armin Meiwes case (who so famously posted on Cannibal Cafe after he killed Bernd Brandes, hoping to find another willing victim). Oh who cares that Bernd got butchered because he consented to it? Never mind the fact he had to take schnapps, sleeping pills, and cough syrup to get over his very normal reaction of being killed then cut up like a hog, and ultimately eaten. Who cares, because he got to live out his fantasy of getting his dick chopped off. Then we have the Sharon Lopatka case, who willingly met with a man she met online and had a BDSM relationship with, who's ultimate goal was getting tortured and murdered, and that's exactly what happened (Perro Loco also knew both of them). Do these sound like sane people to you?
I get at a point, some people can't be saved, but at the same time, it so profoundly affects the people who know them and care for them. And could you really stand to watch your loved ones slowly (or quickly) killing themself? To see them emaciated, grossly obese, covered in sores, track marks all over them, amputating healthy body parts, and see themselves dying or being horribly mutilated/deformed for their addiction? Our goal as humans are to survive, and when we see people who go against that, it's heartbreaking, and is a mental anguish for most people.
So yes, if it truly didn't affect anyone else, then I'd say "whatever, do what you want." But that's the exact problem, because though these people are too self absorbed to realize, the people around them are heavily affected by it. For all that we laugh about trannies on here, I am truly heartbroken that these mentally ill people are self harming themselves because of the fucking ideology which wants them to live in a fantasy world that doesn't correspond to reality. Instead of being taught to love themselves for how they are, they are being told it's wrong, and they must transition or else they'll kill themselves! They guilt and silence people from speaking out against it. And these mentally ill people are so drunk on the flavoraid, that despite the horror of the reality they've inflicted on themselves, they try to diminish their suffering, and encourage others to do the same.
To end this, no we shouldn't allow people to actively self harm. This let's them believe it's "a lifestyle" "it's natural" "don't you dare judge me!" "you can't possibly know what's best for me because you're not me!" This is why people will wake up to what's naturally wrong and goes against our natural and survival instincts. It might take a while, but once something truly shocking happens, there is a severe backlash, because we realize it's not healthy nor should be encouraged, and is killing us.
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I must unfortunately introduce you to Challah Back *girl*
At least he's got a sense of humor.
A lot of idiots mistaking him for an actual her.
He, likes to post screens of his online dating adventures. So meet, totally not a blind idiot Sam.
But not to worry! M'lady has a protector!
But not to worry! M'lady has a protector!
At least he's got a sense of humor.
A lot of idiots mistaking him for an actual her.
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I find that many of the troons I've met personally only end up dating other troons because they're the only ones willing to put up with smelly self inflicted axe wounds.
I knew a truly exceptional pair that were late in life troons, both had self admitted abusive tendencies, both male to female, neither passed for shit. I dont think they could have made it in the dating world, hence why they took turns dilating each other