Plagued Onion Farms and other KF Splinter Sites - Watch Kiwi Farms members slapfighting in this thread

Null said:
At that point, you're better off just making your site private. Well if you do that, you've crippled your site's growth. A ton of users find the site from search results. Being private means that natural growth won't come. A lot of people directed to a post will simply bounce if it's closed off
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reminds me of WikipediaSucks

theyve spent 8 years talking about me and to this day ive never read any one of those posts further than what shows in google search previews
 
Null said:
P.S. Splinter sites have existed since before I even took over the forum. When I was setting up the forum in 2012, there was a potential split between this one and something set up by three people who had just been banned.

The Kiwi Farms has a 'monopoly' on Internet Drama (outside of shitholes like Guru Gossiper which are so low IQ there are threads for users who are married to inmates) because I'm one of the only people in the world who is able and willing to deal with the complaint volume and technical hardships. It's not just people like Vordrak. I get DMCAs every single day and I have to put my address on every counter-DMCA I make. I get complaints about revenge porn, emails from EU countries about racist content, complaints from Roskomnadzor, complaints from people to me, complaints from people to CF, complaints from people to my host (me, now).

You could say "We'll make our splinter better, stabler, and cheaper by avoiding those problems!" - well, good luck. You're going to be deleting a lot of content. Anything copyrighted that Kengle doesn't want to dox himself to counter (art, photos, writing, anything). Anything pornographic that a person could make a reasonable argument to a host that it's revenge porn. Anything political.

At that point, you're better off just making your site private. Well if you do that, you've crippled your site's growth. A ton of users find the site from search results. Being private means that natural growth won't come. A lot of people directed to a post will simply bounce if it's closed off. In my own investigations, I've found that most people lurk as a guest for 6 months before registering to post.

You could stay public and just moderate heavily to stay online, but then you've also crippled your site's growth. Why would people pick Site A if Site B exists, is bigger, and allows more content? They'd only pick Site A if they had a problem with Site B, and the people who have a problem with Site B are a small group - many of whom are problem users, and won't exactly make Site A a better place than Site B.

Someone brought up Something Awful, but you can look at SA and places like SS and see that SS didn't exactly thrive. It existed, it served a purpose, and then it folded into the Kiwi Farms. A lot of users here are here because they came over during SA / SS drama. SA is still up. Lowtax is gone, but the community is still there. If you want to grow a community you can't just have your community be "like X, but betterer."


My real advice to you guys is to have Kengle's name on everything to be your legal buffer, have someone else manage literally every other aspect of the community, and avoid dox. Just completely avoid dox and have a small, insulated group of people that can safely play video games on their main steam accounts. That is something which I cannot give people because the site is naturally hostile and has constant external pressure. I can only organize community games for things like OpenTTD and Space Station 13, where there are no real accounts involved.
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I kinda want to watch it happen, though. Kengle and the others who've flocked there think "Oh, this will be like Kiwi Farms, except better and with blackjack and hookers!" I want to watch the DMCAs pour in, and Kengle begin deleting things because he doesn't want to deal with it, and the the little Onions crying as thread quality goes down (you dealing with DMCAs helps us keep threads interesting and informative, which puts us ahead of Kengle.)
And the thing about taking content down, once you do, you've opened the floodgates. Anyone who doesn't like a site's content will use legal pressure to have content removed. Websites like SA have troons flocking to them like geese because they can pressure admins into taking stuff down. I'm personally grateful that you are one of the very, very few people willing to tell those censorious twats to buy a dildo and go fuck themselves.
 
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crispy socks said:
What if Kardashians are the next CWC?
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Banditotron said:
I dont understand ANY of this. The only reason I could think of that you would want a second kiwi farms is if you got banned on the first.
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It has a different culture and tone. Also it allows us to talk about things that aren't allowed on KF outside of the supporters hugbox (or at all), and talk to members who were banned.
 
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The Pink Panther said:
No, I could care less about someone on this site getting banned.

Only reason I'm on OF is because KF's a sinking ship and I'm loving the laughs, my guy. This site has gotten plain too serious and a little too circlejerky for my tastes, and I feel like OF as a rising forum made by someone equally as much as a lolcow as Josh offers a little bit of fun with taking the piss outta this site. It's all in good fun.
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that's great and all but maybe you should reconsider traveling this inexplicable Kiwi Farms-OnlyFans pipeline
 
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