Callum Nathan Thomas Edmunds / MauLer93 / MauLer and the EFAPshere - Objective discussion about not-Channel Awesome featuring Rags, Southpaw and more!

[PenguinSuitAlice]

What the fuck

I only have a surface-level knowledge of kaiju stuff and even I know that's total horseshit, the kind of nonsense complaint that really tanks your credibility. But I'm sure they'll treat it as gospel on the EFAP and brand anyone who disagrees as a subhuman.

Let's give them the benefit of the doubt. This is only Drinker, who I don't really consider a main member of the crew, and even he is only talking about the trailer. As far as we know, MauLer and his closer orbiters may have better opinions.

Oh, who am I kidding? They will probably just have an EFAP Movie on Godzilla 1998 in anticipation. Maybe one of the minor orbiters will have watched a couple of the Japanese movies but will hate them/claim they are guilty pleasures because of their bad writing. I do not see any of the Japanese movies holding up to their objective standards, and they would get only ironic non-enjoyment out of them. The main thing I am uncertain about is how much of the modern Hollywood Godzilla/Kong movies they have watched or will watch. I'm certain they will watch Godzilla 1998 because it is infamous. They have precedent now of watching older over-reviewed so bad it's good movies (Batman and Robin/Jingle all the Way). It just seems like an obvious choice.

So to reiterate, their probable future EFAP movies as far as know based on upcoming blockbusters and what they have already told us:
DC Movies: Batman v. Superman, Suicide Squad, Shazam, Birds of Prey, Aquaman, Justice League (Snyder Cut), Super Man 4(?), further Batwoman
Other Movies: Matrix (Full trilogy? I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up disliking the original but it could go either way), Godzilla et al.(?), whatever Marvel product/other blockbuster that turns bad, Masters of the Universe(Remake is coming out and the original is infamous), Ghostbusters(might as well jump on that train late with Afterlife)

I wouldn't be surprised if this and EFAP will be MauLer's only content this entire year outside of his April Fool's video. Those TFA reviews aren't getting any closer, maybe a single one if we are lucky. He will just lazily latch onto trends with relatively low-effort content while fighting the good fight with DC and possibly Matrix and Godzilla fanboys on Twitter and EFAP.

 

[distnightmare]

Let's give them the benefit of the doubt. This is only Drinker, who I don't really consider a main member of the crew, and even he is only talking about the trailer. As far as we know, MauLer and his closer orbiters may have better opinions.

Honestly, I don't find drinker THAT BAD. Sure he is part of their crew and he can be wrong at times but hey I have more respect for him ripping the new mutants and midsommar to shreds ; ) plus his videos aren't hours long from what I've seen AND he doesn't spend all day on twitter attacking people with his platform (or if he does, it isn't as much as southpaw and mauler)

 

[Not Even Twice]

Honestly, I don't find drinker THAT BAD. Sure he is part of their crew and he can be wrong at times but hey I have more respect for him ripping the new mutants and midsommar to shreds ; ) plus his videos aren't hours long from what I've seen AND he doesn't spend all day on twitter attacking people with his platform (or if he does, it isn't as much as southpaw and mauler)

I think the major difference is that Drinker doesn't sell himself as some fart huffing critic.
The videos of things he dislikes are pretty short and pure opinion, and his long videos are - contrary to EFAPs - him hanging out with other youtubers having some drinks and praising movies he enjoys. It leaves his videos feeling far more chill and just a guy sharing his opinions, compared to the 'objectively wrong!!!' crap that MauLer and Co spews.

 

[distnightmare]

I think the major difference is that Drinker doesn't sell himself as some fart huffing critic.
The videos of things he dislikes are pretty short and pure opinion, and his long videos are - contrary to EFAPs - him hanging out with other youtubers having some drinks and praising movies he enjoys. It leaves his videos feeling far more chill and just a guy sharing his opinions, compared to the 'objectively wrong!!!' crap that MauLer and Co spews.

exactly, seems like an actual nice guy

 

[PenguinSuitAlice]

MauLer's Twitter has been very quiet recently (last tweet was on 2/3 and the last one before that was 1/30). My theory is that he's actually working on his reviews now. Makes sense, his EFAPs have been getting more and more stale as they go this year. I'm sure he's bored as well. If I were in his shoes, I would be trying to get all of TFA out ASAP so I could do TROS, which still has some small interest left with it. He really should get back to making Unbridleds, because those are the things that actually give his channel life. Does any of his activity on Discord support this theory?

Perhaps he is reading this thread and took what we and others have said about him being lazy to heart? Though it may have something to do with the fact his Patreon is starting to slip from a plateau into a decline. Remember, MauLer's response to upset patrons is simply: "If you don't think I'm worth spending money on, don't give me money." I bet his superchats and EFAP views are declining too. As I said, he's past his peak. I'd say 2019 was his golden age, 2020 was his stagnant age, and 2021 will be his year of decline. Though who knows? Maybe Callum and company will surprise us and break their stasis.

 

[Korpon]

Does any of his activity on Discord support this theory?

I haven't been looking at the Discord much lately, but I gave it a quick check just now:


It seems like he's working on a video for The Boys I assume? I guess he finally is getting work done for once.

Although he currently is playing Dark Souls, guess he's on a "break"

Also seen this, don't know the context but more stuff about religion and The Boys, guess Rags and Fringy sperged about it again on EFAP.

 

[PenguinSuitAlice]

Also seen this, don't know the context but more stuff about religion and The Boys, guess Rags and Fringy sperged about it again on EFAP.

Makes sense. The last EFAP was a positive review of MoS, and that movie was not subtle about the religious themes. Though I do recall Rags being relatively subdued in the EFAP movie, mostly just doing along with the others the typical criticism that MoS' religious imagery is way too blatant and pointless. Perhaps the positive review did some religious rhetoric that Rags couldn't help but mock.

Edit: When the MoS EFAP Movie is back up, I'll post it. It really is worth a watch.

 

[PenguinSuitAlice]

I'll just leave these here. Might as well add some Jay into the mix, considering the Dr. Who review will be one of the bigger things put out in the near future.

This a ticking timebomb. His mind is gone. I already knew this but Jay's Twitter always bothers me. Twitter devoured Jay. Jay is by far the most prolific tweeter of the bunch, even more than Southpaw. MauLer is actually really restrained. That's part of the reason why I posted almost all of his tweets, because until recently he really only did something on there every day or so. Is Jay like this on Discord, too? Constantly putting out hostile messages that start in lowercase?

 

[buying gf]

I'll just leave these here. Might as well add some Jay into the mix, considering the Dr. Who review will be one of the bigger things put out in the near future.
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This a ticking timebomb. His mind is gone. Twitter devoured Jay. Jay is by far the most prolific tweeter of the bunch, even more than Southpaw. MauLer is actually really restrained. That's part of the reason why I posted almost all of his tweets, because until recently he really only did something on there every day or so. Is Jay like this on Discord, too? Constantly putting out hostile messages that start in lowercase?

What the fuck does he mean that the goalposts would be moved to 'your chromosomes determine your sex'? The goalposts have been there for quite a while now.

As to his recent uptick in twitter activity, I can only assume that there is a correlation between taking HRT and tweeting a million times a day.

 

[PenguinSuitAlice]

What the fuck does he mean that the goalposts would be moved to 'your chromosomes determine your sex'? The goalposts have been there for quite a while now.

As to his recent uptick in twitter activity, I can only assume that there is a correlation between taking HRT and tweeting a million times a day.

You should know by now to not try to make sense of the mentally ill's logic and worldview.

I'm still surprised a schism didn't start when Rags sided with JK Rowling and TERFs against Jim Sterling that one time. I'm sure Jay knows about that, despite not being present at that moment. For most Twitter transgenders that is an act most foul, grounds for burning all bridges. I honestly do not want to sift through Jay's Twitter ramblings to find a reference to it, considering he tweets a dozen times a day, and that was back during the 100th episode video, if I remember correctly.

EDIT: My theory is still that MauLer settled it behind closed doors because he doesn't want to lose a member of EFAP that is both a shield against SJWs calling them bigots and an example of someone he converted to his side. MauLer loves his community's veneer of open-armed rationality and inclusivity. It's part of his 'wholesome and cute' image. Though maybe I'm thinking too deep into it.

If anyone get's kicked out of EFAP, it's Jay. I don't think the fanbase likes him very much either, and he is not as vital as Rags is, despite Rags probably being disliked more. It's actually a meme to spam the livestream cat with 'Kick Jay'. Though that might be cultists mocking his detractors.

 

[TheImportantFart]

I'm still surprised a schism didn't start when Rags sided with JK Rowling and TERFs against Jim Sterling that one time. I'm sure Jay knows about that, despite not being present at that moment. For most Twitter transgenders that is an act most foul, grounds for burning all bridges.

Jay's been relatively reticent to call out the fact that EFAP overlaps with the anti-SJW community, his spat with JLongbone notwithstanding. Xanderhal actually brought this up during their chat, particularly the fact that MauLer's pals with Sargon, and Jay ummed and ahhed around the topic before saying that they were always very nice to him, so it didn't bother him too much.

EFAP's the only reason anyone knows or cares about Jay, so he probably doesn't want to bite the hand that feeds too much, and pissing off Mauler's right hand man would be a sure fire way to do that. I can't think of any other way he can reconcile being in the same orbit as someone like Sargon. Hell, if I knew someone who took Sargon seriously at this stage, much less liked him after all the shit he's pulled, I'd see that as a major red flag.

But yeah, this is a powder keg ready to go off. If he's already called out an EFAPer and is now going after the community, it's only a matter of time before he starts moving further up the food chain.

 

[Shieldman]

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The fact that he's still in the 'scripting' step is a big oof, the video might be months away. I wonder if this will cause a clash with RobotHead because he loved it and was pretty caustic about it.

This a ticking timebomb. His mind is gone. I already knew this but Jay's Twitter always bothers me. Twitter devoured Jay. Jay is by far the most prolific tweeter of the bunch, even more than Southpaw. MauLer is actually really restrained. That's part of the reason why I posted almost all of his tweets, because until recently he really only did something on there every day or so. Is Jay like this on Discord, too? Constantly putting out hostile messages that start in lowercase?

I never followed Jay, but whenever something of his came into my timeline, it was something weird.
like "parents that don't allow their kids to transition should have their children taken away" (this was about a year and a half ago and I couldn't find it again). Or referring himself as an 'egg'.
Like I was kidding before when I said he was Discord Groomed, but I think I might be right now.

 

[PenguinSuitAlice]

Jay's been relatively reticent to call out the fact that EFAP overlaps with the anti-SJW community, his spat with JLongbone notwithstanding. Xanderhal actually brought this up during their chat, particularly the fact that MauLer's pals with Sargon, and Jay ummed and ahhed around the topic before saying that they were always very nice to him, so it didn't bother him too much.

EFAP's the only reason anyone knows or cares about Jay, so he probably doesn't want to bite the hand that feeds too much, and pissing off Mauler's right hand man would be a sure fire way to do that. I can't think of any other way he can reconcile being in the same orbit as someone like Sargon. Hell, if I knew someone who took Sargon seriously at this stage, much less liked him after all the shit he's pulled, I'd see that as a major red flag.

But yeah, this is a powder keg ready to go off. If he's already called out an EFAPer and is now going after the community, it's only a matter of time before he starts moving further up the food chain.

It may be boring now, but look at the TNO mod thread. That was boring but blew up in a matter of days when the treads keeping it together snapped.
If someone in EFAP starts to attack Rags or even MauLer, there may be others that will be emboldened to follow, both among the EFAP crew and the viewer community. I'm sure many of them have deep-rooted grievances they are afraid to say and can smell blood in the water. Not to mention the fact that EFAP has gained just as much enemies as they have friends, if not more. The complex interpersonal web of EFAP may collapse.
I hope I didn't jinx it by saying this. I'd hate a slow decline.

 

[Idiotron]

I love how Jay talks about science like he has any understanding of it.
His statement "You're not a woman, you have testosterone" proves his ignorance.
WOMEN HAVE TESTOSTERONE, YOU FUCKING DOLT!!!
The ovaries produce both testosterone and estrogen, you would know it if you did even the basic of research.
Also, comparing cosmetic surgery and taking estrogen pills to changing a person's chromosomes (which is decades beyond our current capabilities at the very least, we don't even know how to begin, it might not be possible at all) is fucking dumb.
Typical internet intellectual - zero knowledge but infinite ego.

 

[Korpon]

Is Jay like this on Discord, too? Constantly putting out hostile messages that start in lowercase?

He's super inactive on it surprisingly, I don't know if he has his own server or not, but he hasn't really said anything interesting on the Mauler's Discord at least. Also regarding Jay and his trans lunacy, EFAP has always been bashing Jim Sterling, and since Jimbo recently came out as a troon, I wonder if Mauler will avoid covering his videos now in order to avoid Rags saying something about it.

I can only assume that there is a correlation between taking HRT and tweeting a million times a day.

IIRC from reading Jim Sterling's thread when he trooned out, someone did post a thing about how HRT can fuck with your head and make you act weird, I guess that's what we are seeing with Jay.

 

[biscuitscilia]

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This a ticking timebomb. His mind is gone. I already knew this but Jay's Twitter always bothers me. Twitter devoured Jay. Jay is by far the most prolific tweeter of the bunch, even more than Southpaw. MauLer is actually really restrained. That's part of the reason why I posted almost all of his tweets, because until recently he really only did something on there every day or so. Is Jay like this on Discord, too? Constantly putting out hostile messages that start in lowercase?

Jay's been relatively reticent to call out the fact that EFAP overlaps with the anti-SJW community, his spat with JLongbone notwithstanding. Xanderhal actually brought this up during their chat, particularly the fact that MauLer's pals with Sargon, and Jay ummed and ahhed around the topic before saying that they were always very nice to him, so it didn't bother him too much.

EFAP's the only reason anyone knows or cares about Jay, so he probably doesn't want to bite the hand that feeds too much, and pissing off Mauler's right hand man would be a sure fire way to do that. I can't think of any other way he can reconcile being in the same orbit as someone like Sargon. Hell, if I knew someone who took Sargon seriously at this stage, much less liked him after all the shit he's pulled, I'd see that as a major red flag.

But yeah, this is a powder keg ready to go off. If he's already called out an EFAPer and is now going after the community, it's only a matter of time before he starts moving further up the food chain.

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He's super inactive on it surprisingly, I don't know if he has his own server or not, but he hasn't really said anything interesting on the Mauler's Discord at least. Also regarding Jay and his trans lunacy, EFAP has always been bashing Jim Sterling, and since Jimbo recently came out as a troon, I wonder if Mauler will avoid covering his videos now in order to avoid Rags saying something about it.

IIRC from reading Jim Sterling's thread when he trooned out, someone did post a thing about how HRT can fuck with your head and make you act weird, I guess that's what we are seeing with Jay.

It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion. You know it's coming and yet it's so easily preventable. Jay either needs to leave the EFAP orbit or else he'll inevitably get into conflict with them. Considering Mauler does not address drama around his co-hosts, even when he directly sees them (mostly Rags) directly antagonizing each other and his audience, it's going to make the eventual crash even more severe than it would've been.

 

[Elescondido]

It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion. You know it's coming and yet it's so easily preventable. Jay either needs to leave the EFAP orbit or else he'll inevitably get into conflict with them. Considering Mauler does not address drama around his co-hosts, even when he directly sees them (mostly Rags) directly antagonizing each other and his audience, it's going to make the eventual crash even more severe than it would've been.

That sounds fun , it would be a lesson for mauler about wanting to have a cake and eat it too.
Why would he keep a trans person when like 80% of his crew is anti trans ?
Maybe he knows he can't get a real woman (Jay doesnt have a lot of options either) so he is chasing Jay?

 

[R34G4N]

i think what drew me to Mauler is his pure unbridled rage (hence the name of his series) for pandering films like Captain Marvel, as i really do enjoy contrarian opinions most of the time. but as soon as i started watching EFAP... man are these people MAJORLY autistic.

i find it funny when the EFAP crew go through objectively terrible videos because i usually agree with their opinions, but as soon as they go into their retarded “oBjEcTiViTy” diatribe i have to click out. i watch on 1.5x speed anyway, but JEE ZUS. i’m not saying anything new but people that are astounding wrong yet sometimes very right are almost worse to me than people that are always wrong.

i’ve never watched creators that are as self-righteous as these idiots. and that mostly refers to Mauler and Rags.

Sure but those 2 in particular didn't have anything to do with politics.
Alien Covenant could have been decent if people didn't complain about the lack of Xenomorphs in Prometheus, forcing Ridley Scott to abandon his original idea for a trilogy of movies.
Predator was a direct result of the success of the MCU and Fox (pre-Disney boyout) wanted to turn one of their most recognizable brands into a clone of it.

As for MauLer:
I've tried to watch the Underwater video but, even as background noise, I just couldn't take it.
They don't know what a rip off is, they don't get why characters having more characterization makes them better characters, they don't get the basics of filmmaking.
They don't need to go to film school but it's clear that they watch so few movies that basic tropes with minor changes look like completely different things to them.
That's probably why they claim that the MCU has so much variety, even though it's just "weirdo in a suit fights a weirdo in a suit" with different skins and with a few words replaced in the scripts.
That's why The King of Comedy is so much different from Joker to them, even though it's basically the same thing with a few details changed, which makes them see it as something completely different because they're so obsessed with details.

i don’t agree about the MCU not having variety, but you bring up a great point about them paying such close attention to tiny details that they lose sight of tropes and overall similarities. i never really considered that that aspect would contribute to why they have such skewed opinions on media, especially when comparing two similar things. it’s an autistic level of attention-to-detail. and i don’t even mean that an insult — i mean it literally.

maybe i’m slow but i think you made some excellent points i hadn’t previously considered.

 

[R34G4N]

maybe this doesn’t belong here, but since Mauler seems to really dislike The Boys for his usual retarded reasons, what do y’all think about the show? i personally love it and think his criticisms are largely misplaced and stupid.

thoughts?

 

[Clorox Cowboy]

i don’t agree about the MCU not having variety, but you bring up a great point about them paying such close attention to tiny details that they lose sight of tropes and overall similarities. i never really considered that that aspect would would contribute to why they have such skewed opinions on media, especially when comparing two similar things. it’s an autistic level of attention-to-detail. and i don’t even mean that an insult — i mean it literally.

maybe i’m slow but i think you made some excellent points i hadn’t previously considered.

The problem is that a lot of films in that genre, not just the MCU but a lot of summer action blockbusters in general, are very similar tonally and follow almost the same exact story beats. Just swap out characters and setting and you're good to go. It something where when you've seen enough they start to bleed together, but you also appreciate and recognize when something purposefully deviates and breaks away from the conventional mold.

This is where Mauler and co really laughably fail as critics to me and I'll echo @Idiotron's sentiments. Mauler has built himself up as a highbrow critic. He mainly enjoys "objectively good" movies and because of this, he needs to justify every single thing he likes and showcase how amazing it is. Without a healthy pool of movies to reference though he ends up praising things for being innovative and unique, not recognizing them as being entirely derivative. He can't identify when something is a retread, or even intentionally invoking an older trope in some cases.

It's absolutely pathetic to watch, and it really wouldn't even matter if he wasn't all about keeping up his smug, holier than thou, objective facade.