American Impeachment/25th Amendment Watch 2021 - If, at first, you don't convict, try, try again

What will happen to Donald Trump in the next two weeks?

  • The House of Representatives impeaches and the Senate convicts

    Votes: 23 8.6%

  • The House of Representatives impeaches and the Senate acquits

    Votes: 17 6.3%

  • The US Cabinet invokes the 25th amendment

    Votes: 11 4.1%

  • House of Representative and/or Senate censures the President

    Votes: 14 5.2%

  • President Trump resigns

    Votes: 11 4.1%

  • Trump continues as President until Jan. 20, with Biden becoming President afterwards

    Votes: 165 61.3%

  • Trump finds a way to continue being President after Jan. 20

    Votes: 28 10.4%
  • Total voters
    269
  • Poll closed .
The Capital Storming is apparently worse than 9/11. These people desperately wanna call themselves survivors.
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Slimy Time said:
Probably because fags can't stop going around spamming neg-rates on every single comment because ultimately (almost) everyone is like APC, a chimp who can't interact with people properly.

Honestly idk. Kinda lame. Also check the "Disagree" text - "Respectfully Disagree, but I still love you".
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I see the lunacy rating spammed on the tda thread
 
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Rich Evans Apologist said:
The wording actually allows for 3 odd circumstances:
-Impeach for impeachment's sake, do nothing with it (pointless waste of time, just censure)
-Impeach to remove from office
- Remove from office & bar from future office

Basically, those two punishments are the limitation of impeachment - but they aren't necessarily required. The constitutionality is still somewhat weird because Trump is not currently a sitting government official, and thus not subject to impeaching; however, as his charges were made while he was, we skirt around that. Except that with Leahy pushing out Roberts, like... Leahy's logic is that he's not the president right now. Well in that case, he's also not a government official right now - you can't have both.

I should say, 2/3 also require different margins; remove takes 2/3rds, bar takes a simple majority. I forgot the barring is usually contingent on removal - I'm not actually familiar if you can try just to bar someone. I would guess you technically can, by impeaching for impeachment's sake (2/3rds) and then having a second vote to bar thereafter. It's not really well-defined. This situation is retarded.
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Yeah, it's messy but that's fairly normal given that we haven't had to make use of impeachment often enough to hammer out some of these details. The Constitution basically just outlined what the government would be, and they figured they could fix any necessary details later with amendments. Some stuff got straightened out quickly like "Oops, the electoral college just accidentally elected a president and vice president who belong to different parties and hate each other", while others like "Wait, so when the president dies does the vice president become president or is he just acting-president until elections are held? And if he becomes president what do we do about the then empty office of vice president?" ran off of precedent for like 150 years before we got around to clarifying the details with an amendment. After Belknap, Nixon, Trump and probably some others mostly forgotten to history, we're probably due an amendment to clarify that individuals can't avoid impending impeachment just by resigning or having their term expire before they can be brought to trial by the senate; that they can still be brought to trial to consider disqualifying them from holding future office. However given that politics is a circus - particularly right now - and getting amendments passed is difficult in the best of times, they probably can't manage to do it.
 
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Oats12345 said:
Honestly way did Null do this?
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To make people mad lol
Also faggots send mod reports about negrates, so this should slow the throughput. However, if it also reduces tard chimpouts, that's a negative
Dr Pepper said:
What about @secret watcher though?
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Stickers are respectful and s/he's never said anything to make me think s/he doesn't love each and every kiwi, so the tools are still there
A_throwaway_name62919 said:
After Belknap, Nixon, Trump and probably some others mostly forgotten to history, we're probably due an amendment to clarify that individuals can't avoid impending impeachment just by resigning or having their term expire before they can be brought to trial by the senate; that they can still be brought to trial to consider disqualifying them from holding future office. However given that politics is a circus - particularly right now - and getting amendments passed is difficult in the best of times, they probably can't manage to do it.
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Yeah, a new amendment for jsut such a situation as this is definitely due, but I agree that we'll at best see once only once both of these parties at last collapse in on themselves with the boomers dying off and -maybe- we get somthing of a mild coalition-esque climate in the thereafter. I'm skeptical of that, admittedly.
 
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