General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

Someone actually made an Enma Live2D.

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Shame Enma won't stop being an overprotective dickweed and let Coco collab with the EN girls.

Let the chinks spam an EN chat and see what they get.

Earlier shitposting aside, I've been thinking lately that, aside from Calli playing fast and loose with maintaining her own kayfabe, a lot of Deadbeats, and KFP for that matter too, don't do a very good job with maintaining the distinction between the character and the roommate either considering that a lot of them also vocally support Demondice (and Keeki as well) on social media. I doubt it takes much for any person to see notable fans directly and frequently simping the roommates in order to make the connection. They could probably use their own tard wranglers.
I always wince when I see people do this shit with roommate accounts. Make it a little less obvious, please. Some of the JP girls have this issue too, I almost cringed out of my skin once day when I saw that like 80% of the replies to a tweet Towa's roommate made were by people with Towa profile pics. Hell, some people with Holo'd-out accounts even retweet roommate posts. How fucking tonedeaf do you have to be for that?

anyone else noticed that marine seems to be sick of the horny meme? i cant blame her
She is. She has been for several months now. She only talks about it in member zatsudans if at all, though. She just keeps up the charade for the retard EOP enjoyment.

So with HoloEN2 happening soon, how many newfags do you guys think will pop up asking for face doxes?
A lot, but even one will be one too many.

Sounds like Coco took her own advice when she recruited mods. Extermination is everyone's job.

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I thought it was a brilliant move to make the oldfag Tatsunokos moderators. Watching them absolutely obliterate the bugmen within seconds had me laughing.

Funny though, some homo on /jp/ was crying because "oh this is okay but you guys complain about Lyger being a mod for Matsuri??"

Well, yeah, because that's apple to oranges. Actually, no, more like apples to fucking cinderblocks; Coco's new mods don't just sit there and spam ”かわいい!!😍😍😍 " in chat nonstop, for one.
 
Well, yeah, because that's apple to oranges. Actually, no, more like apples to fucking cinderblocks; Coco's new mods don't just sit there and spam ”かわいい!!😍😍😍 " in chat nonstop, for one.
At least Coco new mods are not turbo autists like Lyger and dont behave like he is actually her producer or some shit, no one likes that faggot
 
Sounds like Coco took her own advice when she recruited mods. Extermination is everyone's job.

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Is it just a sound file, or is the video not displaying only for me? If the latter, then there may be something wrong with my web browser.

I thought it was a brilliant move to make the oldfag Tatsunokos moderators. Watching them absolutely obliterate the bugmen within seconds had me laughing.
My only question is: "why only now". Cover could do fucking nothing for, like, 5 months, and the talent had to undergo a small breakdown, to either get permission for or to implement this method. I do hope this is the final solution for the bugmen problem though.
 
My only question is: "why only now". Cover could do fucking nothing for, like, 5 months, and the talent had to undergo a small breakdown, to either get permission for or to implement this method. I do hope this is the final solution for the bugmen problem though.
All the questions lead to the same answer and in this case is probably her manager fucking thing ups bigly so she decide to get a willing army and now she is going full Nanjing on their asses
 
I thought it was a brilliant move to make the oldfag Tatsunokos moderators. Watching them absolutely obliterate the bugmen within seconds had me laughing.

Funny though, some homo on /jp/ was crying because "oh this is okay but you guys complain about Lyger being a mod for Matsuri??"

Well, yeah, because that's apple to oranges. Actually, no, more like apples to fucking cinderblocks; Coco's new mods don't just sit there and spam ”かわいい!!😍😍😍 " in chat nonstop, for one.
On that /jp/ thread those anons saw that this guy is one of the mods since IIRC from the stream they were 3 or 4 mods I saw in chat and if it is him saw this message.

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ah okay, so basically that mean aside from some personal drama in the past she is just doxxing herself
Well, she did say "shekels" during a superchat stream this week, but I haven't seen any complaints about it. I was surprised, but then I remembered that SocJus commies hate jews.

Untrue. The charater you refer to and Subaru have only 3 days(or week?) apart indebut date. Their sound is quite similar, so people does spread the rumor at first. But after checking their debut time and that Subaru has said that her sister is a streamer, the current rrat is that the Vtuber is her irl sister.
Who is this character? Not interested in the rrats, I just want to see how ugly it is.

Sounds like Coco took her own advice when she recruited mods. Extermination is everyone's job.

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OK, so I guess Coco doesn't just browse Reddit.

New rrat: LOWERCASE LETTERS is Coco.

She is. She has been for several months now. She only talks about it in member zatsudans if at all, though. She just keeps up the charade for the retard EOP enjoyment.
I hope she knows there are plenty of people who love the shameless dork behind all that. Marine is definitely one of the smartest and most talented Holos and I've noticed that most of her "horny pandering" lately has enough subtext going on to tell you it really isn't that. Too lazy to point fingers, but this got posted recently:
...with the insinuation that it was horny-posting, but the mechanics of the gag are self-deprecating. I wouldn't be surprised if Marine didn't actually mind being The Horny Holo, but just knows you can only get so much mileage out of that alone.
 
i remember that picture, is not the guy that literally covered the wall of his room with Coco cards ?
TBH, Coco's been under fire from antis for months now that having a bunch of obsessed/dedicated tatsunokos as mods to fight back against the spam just feels like an appropriate, if not, commensurate response - especially with how incompetent Cover has proven to be in this area.
 
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TBH, Coco's been under fire from antis for months now that having a bunch of obsessed/dedicated tatsunokos as mods to fight back against the spam just feels like an appropriate, if not, commensurate response.
and to be fair her fans are absolute tired of the bugmen shitting streams, is was time for appropriate measures
 
TBH, Coco's been under fire from antis for months now that having a bunch of obsessed/dedicated tatsunokos as mods to fight back against the spam just feels like an appropriate, if not, commensurate response - especially with how incompetent Cover has proven to be in this area.
Eh, looking at the dude's Twitter he just seems like a big Coco fan who does some DIY stuff. I think the most extreme thing is that wall which I feel is for the meme's and that he has an actual numbered Coco Rebirth card which is probably around like 500+$ and I'm honestly a bit jealous of that. But he has quite a few unrelated stuff, compared to Lyger who is legit 100% Matsuri 100% of the time.

I've done some DIY stuff honestly, I did some cookie-related stuff for Ina's cookie stream which she seemed to like a lot. It's a fun outlet if you suck at drawing but have some other skill.
 
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Mostly Envytuber and e-thots upset since they say they are Vtuber and post their underwear and butts and body part (typical e-thots nonsense) and go full Karen
If they went full Karen they would be out there making their own shit instead of bitching on Twitter...you know, like what Karen wants them to do.

Cursed Night and Off With Their Heads feels/sounds more authentic because the topics are outside of the kayfabe she's been maintaining as "Calli". The other stuff she's written from the character Calliope Mori's perspective sound okay but for people who already like her stuff as Demondice, the Calli stuff just lacks some of the oomph and attitude that her DD output had - which I guess is just a roundabout way of saying that Demondice felt/spoke more as the embodiment of Karen compared to her current "seisofied" Calliope Mori incarnation. That could change I guess once she gets more comfy in the Calli "skin" and if she begins to treat it as an extension of herself the way Demondice was and not just a suit she puts on for her streaming job.
American Saikoro is definitely a favorite but I feel her absolute best work was on Kakigori Galaxy Astronaut (that's where Soundless and Hazy Skyscraper are from) although I love the absolute shitpost that is Gang Gang Kawaii more than anything she's ever done. There's also Sick Outta Fashion, which is a diss track on the entire rap industry and the "sad boy" culture which could be easily directed at Envytubers and TBAs since they're cut from the same cloth of trying to monetize personal suffering. "So glad you can make some money off what's killin' me in real life!"

Like if I wanna compare her standard boast tracks as Calli to anything she's done as Dice it would be Wannabe but it still had more soul than anything as Calli.


As far as the whole "radio single" potential, Please RIP definitely has that and can be compared to Alkatraz in that regard, even though I'm still not sure what the message behind Alkatraz is.
That being said, in light of the popular sentiment about the Haato-vs-Haachama battle for dominance storyline, a Demondice as a renegade alter taking over Calli's channel for a while seems like a juicy missed storyline/opportunity. Have Dice and Calli sound off on each other sort of like a T.I. vs T.I.P. kind of back-and-forth between the artist's better manners & sense vs her far more brash and vulgar side:


We...kind of already have that. While not written by her, AO definitely covered that with regards to Princess and Mister Jewel Box (both animated by Dice.) Basically, Mister Jewel Box is all about the idea of the titular Princess character becoming a runaway persona that ends up surpassing her creator (AO) and taking over his image. The applicability of Mister Jewel Box to Calli's career hasn't gone unnoticed.

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I always wince when I see people do this shit with roommate accounts
I'm of the opinion that those are the same kind of 'fans' that you see most musicians garner. . . namely the hipster brand. How do you show your power level in the music fanbase? You play the good old 'I was a fan before. . .' or the 'But do you know his/her early material?' You don't see genuine Ame/Ina fans pulling this shit. . . only antis and complete morons. But that makes sense since gaming communities and pure-art communities have a modicum of respect for the avatar/pen-name. Plus the growth of the individual isn't as important as the end product in those communities (who brags about knowing GLADD before he was good at Destiny?)(Who brags about knowing any artists before they could draw?). It exists but is much less common than those who obsess over music careers for some reason.

And it looks like I'm about to ride with Mister O's post. . . Well: full send.
Shame Enma won't stop being an overprotective dickweed and let Coco collab with the EN girls.

Let the chinks spam an EN chat and see what they get
I have no idea what ENMA is doing in that regard as I have not seen any evidence of the EN manager keeping Coco isolated. I think it is more likely Coco is keeping it at bay.

On the other hand, I completely agree with that latter sentiment. Whoever is stopping these collabs needs to sit back and watch the show. The moment the Wolves try to play their antics in and EN chat. . . in fucking Gura's chat. . . it will be a sight to behold. Like a Disney villain trying to comprehend the Color Out of Space. Seriously, the the only thing these idiots have going for them is that no fanbase is cruel. competent, or autistic enough to actively target them and send their info to CCP authorities to get in line for the camps. The volume of of insanity that invades Gura's chat definitely houses that monstrosity.
She is. She has been for several months now. She only talks about it in member zatsudans if at all, though. She just keeps up the charade for the retard EOP enjoyment.
I think she enjoys it to a certain extent. . . She likes the give and take that occurs from the more mature audiences that take the joke as a joke, but the constant barrage of 'I'M HORNY HAHAHA' when she is discussing the economic impact of the constant shadowbans is definitely annoying. Same as Suisei trying to hold a conversation about Minecraft architecture and seeing 'LOLSHOTACON' in the chat.
I thought it was a brilliant move to make the oldfag Tatsunokos moderators. Watching them absolutely obliterate the bugmen within seconds had me laughing.

Funny though, some homo on /jp/ was crying because "oh this is okay but you guys complain about Lyger being a mod for Matsuri??"

Well, yeah, because that's apple to oranges. Actually, no, more like apples to fucking cinderblocks; Coco's new mods don't just sit there and spam ”かわいい!!😍😍😍 " in chat nonstop, for one.
Apples to Dragonfruit. Not knocking Matsuri but Lyger is definitely an Idol fan gone rampant. Coco never had those kinds of fans because she is the worst idol they have. And that is a good thing because she is one of the best entertainers they have. She is a troll, a sweet troll, and her supporters know that. They aren't weird obsessives, just other trolls. They are also the perfect people to act as mods because ganking Chinese spammers is like a shooting range. Pure pleasure.

Edit: Takodachi. . . you here man? The Her watch along is in like two minutes and I'm afraid I'll miss you in the comments.
Edit2: Also, to risk showing a bleeding heart: Neko Neneka has been streaming for five hours. She started by reading reddit responses to her essentially begging. She lacks electric (outside what she is using for her laptop) and heat. If you got second, send a like.
 
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Sad to see this and not know how serious she actually is.
Marine talking about not liking horni-posting(supposedly) and then proceeding to make those 3d vids is a tad bit hypocritical.
She has a lot on her plate, apart from streams, just like the rest of the talents. Even more so with her personal project.
I wonder how much of all this is her biology acting up.
Hate seeing hologirls grind too hard sometimes.

Well, she is a big girl so she'll figure it out.
 
I'm of the opinion that those are the same kind of 'fans' that you see most musicians garner. . . namely the hipster brand. How do you show your power level in the music fanbase? You play the good old 'I was a fan before. . .' or the 'But do you know his/her early material?' You don't see genuine Ame/Ina fans pulling this shit. . . only antis and complete morons. But that makes sense since gaming communities and pure-art communities have a modicum of respect for the avatar/pen-name. Plus the growth of the individual isn't as important as the end product in those communities (who brags about knowing GLADD before he was good at Destiny?)(Who brags about knowing any artists before they could draw?). It exists but is much less common than those who obsess over music careers for some reason.

And it looks like I'm about to ride with Mister O's post. . . Well: full send.

I have no idea what ENMA is doing in that regard as I have not seen any evidence of the EN manager keeping Coco isolated. I think it is more likely Coco is keeping it at bay.

On the other hand, I completely agree with that latter sentiment. Whoever is stopping these collabs needs to sit back and watch the show. The moment the Wolves try to play their antics in and EN chat. . . in fucking Gura's chat. . . it will be a sight to behold. Like a Disney villain trying to comprehend the Color Out of Space. Seriously, the the only thing these idiots have going for them is that no fanbase is cruel. competent, or autistic enough to actively target them and send their info to CCP authorities to get in line for the camps. The volume of of insanity that invades Gura's chat definitely houses that monstrosity.

I think she enjoys it to a certain extent. . . She likes the give and take that occurs from the more mature audiences that take the joke as a joke, but the constant barrage of 'I'M HORNY HAHAHA' when she is discussing the economic impact of the constant shadowbans is definitely annoying. Same as Suisei trying to hold a conversation about Minecraft architecture and seeing 'LOLSHOTACON' in the chat.

Apples to Dragonfruit. Not knocking Matsuri but Lyger is definitely an Idol fan gone rampant. Coco never had those kinds of fans because she is the worst idol they have. And that is a good thing because she is one of the best entertainers they have. She is a troll, a sweet troll, and her supporters know that. They aren't weird obsessives, just other trolls. They are also the perfect people to act as mods because ganking Chinese spammers is like a shooting range. Pure pleasure.


Edit: Takodachi. . . you here man? The Her watch along is in like two minutes and I'm afraid I'll miss you in the comments.
Coco mentioned during a zatsudan that she has requested to collab with the EN girls multiple times but her requests are always outright ignored by EN management. She actually said this.

Also I do know Marine enjoys the Horny stuff somewhat, but she gets exhausted when that's all the overseas audience wants. She likes to play into it but actively wants to push back against the Flanderization that EOPs seem to demand of any talent with a gimmick. She tries to be friendly about it too, dunno if anyone saw that bit during the one stream this past week where she said "hey overseas sexy guys, let's try and resist the horny today..", she actually means it lol.
 
Wow this is a cow goldmine

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<30 views per video and obviously Gura-inspired. I don't think we need to worry about her getting money.
Sounds like Coco took her own advice when she recruited mods. Extermination is everyone's job.
A great move. Might backfire in future (it only takes one zealot to start banning people) but for now it seems to be working fine, there are so many people wrongly banned by now it doesn't matter at this point.
 
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