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LullerDerbyRollin said:
I like how people ignore how vital 2/3rd majority is to American government and why we can't leave shit up to the House for who gets to remain in office. Cause on Twitter I see nothing but people complaining about a system designed to protect them.
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They're just want a simple majority rule democracy when it's convenient, never mind simple democracies turn into tribal shitshows in those cases. All governments might suck, but the better ones make it really hard to stack the deck. It's almost like ancestors know that people with power can be assholes, or something.
 
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Rare Drop said:
They're just want a simple majority rule democracy when it's convenient, never mind simple democracies turn into tribal shitshows in those cases. All governments might suck, but the better ones make it really hard to stack the deck. It's almost like ancestors know that people with power can be assholes, or something.
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An adage I've heard is, "liberals design government on the assumption they'll always be in power; conservatives design government on the assumption their opponents will be in power." Despite being warned countless times about how all their grand ideas to ensure their thousand-year reich will backfire whenever the tables turn, they do it over and over again. Many such cases. Sad!
 
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The Great Chandler said:
Even when Trump's face is gone from current news, he still haunts them like the invisible boogeyman he is!
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It's actually useful for them. Trump is a much larger lightning rod for hatred than any person in the world right now. No matter how much they try, they just can't make a walking turtle like Cocaine Mitch (their current actual political adversary) draw nearly as much attention as Trump. Having Orange Man always at the forefront of people's minds keeps the populace from looking at what a hatchet job the current administration and its policies are.
 
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Corn Flakes said:
It's actually useful for them. Trump is a much larger lightning rod for hatred than any person in the world right now. No matter how much they try, they just can't make a walking turtle like Cocaine Mitch (their current actual political adversary) draw nearly as much attention as Trump. Having Orange Man always at the forefront of people's minds keeps the populace from looking at what a hatchet job the current administration and its policies are.
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No need to guess how they would deal if it was Jeb Bush instead of Trump.
 
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The Great Chandler said:
I'm gonna be honest, I was expecting them to impeach Trump, I didn't expect it to go the other way. Like what the hell?

Even when Trump's face is gone from current news, he still haunts them like the invisible boogeyman he is!
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Well, technically they DID impeach him. Just failed to convict him.

Some folks are bitching about Mitch saying 'fine, let's charge him as a citizen then'. While I'm quite sure there's no love lost between Trump and the Turtle, that looks less like 'lynch Trump' and more taunting. No matter how bad the Orange Man is, we have much more stringent rules for our judicial system. I'm not saying it's impossible for the Dems to push a prosecution, but it'll be even harder than the impeachment with no guarantees of conviction.

It'll be interesting to see if the left cuts its losses or not.
 
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King Dead said:
An adage I've heard is, "liberals design government on the assumption they'll always be in power; conservatives design government on the assumption their opponents will be in power." Despite being warned countless times about how all their grand ideas to ensure their thousand-year reich will backfire whenever the tables turn, they do it over and over again. Many such cases. Sad!
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In America yes, internationally no. American conservatism tends to operate within the limits of classical liberalism, while internationally there are plenty of conservatives like Putin and Orban who just assume massive executive authority as soon as they get the chance.
 
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FAQnews Correspondent said:
One of which is "the presiding judge will not be part of the jury at the same time." How did they get away with doing this?
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Again, impeachment is not a judicial process, but a political one. The rules get made up as they go along, and to hell with the Constitution.

Of course, much as the Turtle told Harry Reid when they went nuclear on the filibuster, they may regret such a decision. We'll see.
 
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EnemyStand said:
Oh, I never said they'd lose, I just said those countries will be attacked for sure. China will definitely consolidate, that's almost a foregone conclusion. But in doing so it opens up them up to letting their next targets prep, and it's likely that if Iran gets their Muslim coalition off the ground and crushes Israel, China would likely be its next target if they can get through India. Russia will likely rebuild the Iron Curtain (especially if they can get enough support from Eastern Bloc separatists, yes they exist), but if Putin's still in charge he would have no problem allying with China against the Middle East. At that point, our problems on the home front will be small potatoes compared to the latest summer blockbuster of World War 3: On Our Own. The hope is in that case everyone's so worried fighting the Middle East that what's left of the US gets its shit together enough to still be around after the dust settles so that China, Russia, and Iran/Muslim Coalition can't just launch an attack through Canada or Mexico right away.

Yup. Especially if my scenario is correct and they're trying to fend off Russia. Americans tend to forget these countries as a whole have their own problems and more or less view the US as upstarts. Sure, lefties love Europe but Europe isn't going to just drop everything to save the lefties, especially if the support money from the US dries up (which it already more or less has, the US government has done nothing but spend money it doesn't have for decades). The real test then would be how good are the governors? Even the Red States may fall apart if they have weak leadership, especially since the governor will have to do his job without support of the collapsed Federal government. The Senate and House will be useless. The Reds won't just be sitting around their dinner tables; people from the cities will be desperate enough to go there for food or whatever they can take, and with manufacturing and shipping lines collapsing many people will be starving. The suburbs will be warzones, the small towns will be smaller warzones, and if the governor can't effectively govern, that state is essentially going to collapse into chaos in most areas.
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Russia would not be able to completely rebuild what it had; for instance, i do not believe they would be able to retake Baltic states or the more central European territories unless a total collapse of the power structures uniting central Europe occurs. They aren't in a position to really invade or occupy, as they have already been launching campaigns in more distant regions (Crimea, Chechnya) which have been quite the struggle. I see territorial gains for Russia, if they were to come, being the "prize" for choosing the right side in a major conflict.

For anyone interested in Russia's moves, and how the past is literally writing the present day policies, check out these posts I made about a year ago. Russia's present situation and how it relates to their longterm goals, whether they would side with China, and a lot of geography broken down here with some pretty pictures as a visual aid.

On land, resources,, etc: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/merke...us-no-longer-a-world-power.72296/post-6803925

On russia's military moves, the expansionist role it has carved out,, and why it is doing this: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/south-china-sea-and-chinese-military-developments.68791/post-6995964

On how Russia has the single corridor which leaves Beijing the most vulnerable. Aka: why the Chinese are likely to prioritize any alliance with Russia in order to secure this backdoor: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/south-china-sea-and-chinese-military-developments.68791/post-6998859

On the fluidity of the position Russia finds itself in: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/south-china-sea-and-chinese-military-developments.68791/post-6993528
 
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Bakarina said:
Biden is most likely going to die in the next 4 years
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Or in less
Capsaicin Addict said:
Well, technically they DID impeach him. Just failed to convict him.
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You call that a impeachment? was more a geriatric club bitching about a man that is now probably golfing and not giving a shit, the only thing they gained is that now the mere thought of he coming back is going to haunt them, mid terms are going to be very fun
 
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Cubanodun said:
You call that a impeachment? was more a geriatric club bitching about a man that is now probably golfing and not giving a shit, the only thing they gained is that now the mere thought of he coming back is going to haunt them, mid terms are going to be very fun
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It was ginned up by gerontocrat Democrats, what did you expect?

But yeah, the midterms will be very interesting if they don't find some way to stymie Trump. Plenty of noise about new parties; plenty of prospects for primary challenges. And plenty of people pissed off about the 2020 election and the difference in treatment between the BLM/Antifa 'peaceful protests' and the 1/6 'peaceful protest'.
 
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Cubanodun said:
You call that a impeachment? was more a geriatric club bitching about a man that is now probably golfing and not giving a shit, the only thing they gained is that now the mere thought of he coming back is going to haunt them, mid terms are going to be very fun
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No, it was an impeachment just fine. Like the previous one. He was impeached. But then they failed to remove him. Which is one of the reasons why this whole thing was stupid: you can't remove from the office of the President of the United States of America a guy who's not the President of the United States of America anymore.

It's like indicting someone, as opposed to convicting them. The impeachment is the legislative equivalent of the judicial indictment: it's the formal charge defining the reason why the house wants the President removed. The removal is the judicial equivalent of the conviction: actualy getting the guy out of the office.
 
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Corn Flakes said:
But then they failed to remove him.
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Because the main reason was not to remove him, was for ban him to try again, this thing was so doomed that even Jack dorsey admitted it was not going anywhere

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the difference in treatment between the BLM/Antifa 'peaceful protests' and the 1/6 'peaceful protest'.
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If they dont get their gibs this year expect them to go full meltdown, the fun part of they doing that is that they cant blame trump for it because he was not there
 
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Corn Flakes said:
No, it was an impeachment just fine. Like the previous one. He was impeached. But then they failed to remove him. Which is one of the reasons why this whole thing was stupid: you can't remove from the office of the President of the United States of America a guy who's not the President of the United States of America anymore.

It's like indicting someone, as opposed to convicting them. The impeachment is the legislative equivalent of the judicial indictment: it's the formal charge defining the reason why the house wants the President removed. The removal is the judicial equivalent of the conviction: actualy getting the guy out of the office.
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There have been 4 impeachments in American history and none resulted in conviction.
 
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