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why weren't global health agencies reporting this?
You know why: this wasn't about a pandemic and they don't give a damn about the health of their peasants, whom are completely disposable to them. Like 9/11, COVID is an accelerationist play meant to enable seizing power in ways that would be prior unthinkable. A big part of its timing was intended on crushing Trump and everything he represents - any kind of popular pushback from the rabble - but the wider picture is that it will enable western nations to permanently press the populous into soulless interchangable consumer units with zero agency.
 
I dunno if it linked, but locking kid inside, always wearing mask and always cleaning their and with purell would atrophy their immune system? Also when authority were originally against mask they said it was bacterial and fungal nest and people didn't know how to use, they maybe were right. Looking at how people don't really use it properly and don't even clean them...
"Maybe", no, it's obvious. Look at any place with a mask order and see how many people wear masks right. And then imagine a lot of those people are probably touching their mask or face without washing their hands. Remember that plenty of people do not wash their hands after using the restroom and that it was common to see people cough or sneezing into their hands (or the thin air) instead of their elbow.

There is evidence that masks will reduce the spread. Not eliminate it, but definitely reduce it. They work if your goal is flattening the curve. But human nature takes over and it turns out most people can't wear a mask in the medically mandated way because they simply don't know how or don't care to. And just like the Soviet Union's central planners didn't make their guidelines based on actual reality, our central planners of public health don't make guidelines on reality and have essentially promoted the facemask to the level of a mystical talisman, where if you wear it you're both saving yourself, those around you, and grandma from the deadly disease and "stopping the spread". Essentially it's "if we decree it our models show X percent of reduction of cases and deaths" never minding that in practice it doesn't work that way and can never work. It's the same logic that Islam can be totally successful at eliminating rape because men get arranged marriages and know faithfulness to their wives is Allah-approved, rapists are beheaded or stoned, and women have burkas to prevent sexual immorality.
 
It's downright criminal that the WHO, CDC, and other public health organizations and their spokesmen didn't recommend this from the start. Imagine if Dr. Fauci said on his 60 Minutes interview a year ago that "if you can't wear a mask, take vitamin D, and even if you wear a mask, take vitamin D." Thousands of people would still be alive and no doubt millions more would've had easier times when they caught the Chinese virus. If an autistic lunatic like @Drain Todger knows it based on his OCD reading of medical papers, why weren't global health agencies reporting this? And vitamin D is good for lots of other shit too. I started taking vitamin D supplements because I figured that if I caught the Shanghai Shakes then I'd want as easy time as possible and it made me feel better than I have in years.

It's insane they would shut people indoors, close gyms, and essentially encourage obesity for a disease that is worse in the obese and people lacking vitamin D. But nothing about this makes any sense. Always remember that according to the media's own studies, something like 90% of all COVID-19 coverage in the media is pessimistic compared to around 60% in medical journals. And in those percentages, remember that the media ALWAYS emphasizes shit like "oh this new strain is even more deadly" compared to things like "here's how vitamin D can reduce deaths".
There was a biomedical researcher on Joe Rogan's podcast really early in the pandemic who was shilling the vitamin D angle hard. Right when the early studies were coming out she was talking about them and talking about how vitamin D is really cheap and low risk. Given how widely-viewed that podcast is, I wonder how many lives she saved?

Aaand I found it if anyone is curious. Looks like early May.
 
There was a biomedical researcher on Joe Rogan's podcast really early in the pandemic who was shilling the vitamin D angle hard. Right when the early studies were coming out she was talking about them and talking about how vitamin D is really cheap and low risk. Given how widely-viewed that podcast is, I wonder how many lives she saved?

Aaand I found it if anyone is curious. Looks like early May.
Slightly off topic, but it's hilarious that Joe Rogan is considered "alt-right" by the MSM because he dares allow people to speak that don't push the narrative. Sure, a guy that would endorse Bernie Sanders for president is "alt-right." But oh wait, he had a "transphobic" researcher on his podcast a couple times.
 
Sure, a guy that would endorse Bernie Sanders for president is "alt-right."
Bernie Bros were cast as far-right extremists during the 2016 primaries. Socially and economically left-wing people were tantamount to nazis because they dared to support the jewish competitor of the democrat party's aryan queen.
 
I'm pretty sure I heard about Vitamin D back in May and it was considered another conservative conspiracy theory, but I'm too lazy to prove that.
I'm it was being talked about here back in March, if not earlier. I take it anyway and bought a couple of extra bottles in case there were shortages like with masks and toilet paper, and I can see from my order history that was on the 13th of March.
 
I'm it was being talked about here back in March, if not earlier. I take it anyway and bought a couple of extra bottles in case there were shortages like with masks and toilet paper, and I can see from my order history that was on the 13th of March.
Same, 1000IU vitamin D3, along with a magnesium calcium zinc supplement. D3 is animal sourced and the same as produced in your skin, so significantly easier for your body to absorb and process into the active form than plant-sourced alternatives.
 
I'm pretty sure I heard about Vitamin D back in May and it was considered another conservative conspiracy theory, but I'm too lazy to prove that.
Scott Adams was posting about Vitamin D for most of 2020. So I guess the infor was out there, just no one wanted to believe that something so simple could stop the plague.
COVID-19 is not what people think it is. It really isn't. If people listen to the way the media has presented this virus, they are told that it's a respiratory disease, that it's a pneumonia. While it's accurate to say that it causes a form of pneumonia and acute lung injury, what SARS-CoV-2 actually does is insidious. It attacks the lining of people's blood vessels and causes them to become edematous and leak into the lungs and other vital organs. People who die of COVID-19 do not die of pneumonia. They die of sepsis, heart failure, and disseminated intravascular coagulation brought on by vicious coagulopathy. This is why COVID-19 seems like an "everything-virus" that can injure every organ. It's because the blood vessels supply blood to every organ, and a virus that injures the blood vessels injures the organs, too.

But that's not all it does. COVID-19 also triggers hypoxemia by attacking the lungs, starving the brain and other vital organs of oxygen. It also triggers severe inflammation in each organ that it touches. And, on top of all of that, it causes extreme oxidative stress that leads to lipid peroxidation, ferroptosis, and injury to the mitochondria and reduction in their ability to generate energy for cells.

SARS-CoV-2 pulls a very strange sleight-of-hand with its host-virus interactions. Its proteins disable the body's own antioxidant enzymes, directly activate inflammatory pathways, destroy ACE2 receptors needed to inactivate bradykinin, and also act as calcium ion channels.

What groups of people are most strongly affected by COVID-19? Fat people and black people. What groups of people have metabolic syndrome and a reduced ability to deal with oxidative stress in their vascular endothelium? Fat people and black people. Let me explain.

As I've said before, inside our blood vessels is an enzyme called nitric oxide synthase that makes nitric oxide. Nitric oxide is a tiny signaling molecule that has many uses in the body, because it rapidly diffuses through normally impermeable cell membranes. Nitric oxide is also found in various other places, like cigarette smoke. Notice how smokers are less likely to develop severe COVID-19?

Nitric oxide is actually antiviral against SARS-CoV. It prevents the palmitoylation of the Spike protein of SARS-CoV, and research dating back years has shown this. Palmitoylation is the attachment of a fatty acid to a protein. In the case of SARS-CoV-2 and its spike, this makes it more infectious and makes it replicate faster.

Why does SARS-CoV-2 induce oxidative stress in the host by triggering intracellular calcium release and a bradykinin storm? Simple. It wants to destroy the nitric oxide in your body so it can replicate faster. Here's how that happens. When you have oxidative stress in your body, you have a lot of a free radical called superoxide floating around. This is the O2 anion referred to with the notation O2-. It's just O2, but it's missing an electron. It wants to strip that electron off of surrounding substances, like fats (like your cell membranes, cholesterol, whatever) in order to replace it. Free radicals are molecules that are "unhappy" because they're missing an electron, and this makes them prone to react to things around them in a process very similar to rust, or fire. Free radicals "rust" things in your body. That's what people mean when they say having an "antioxidant diet can help you live longer". What they're actually saying is you should eat things that act as sacrificial molecules to donate electrons to these free radicals so they don't strip electrons off of your cells, your DNA, whatever. Anyway, oxidation-reduction reactions in the body are vital for just about everything, including, uhh, breathing, so you can't live without them. But, I digress.

When superoxide comes in contact with nitric oxide, it forms peroxynitrite by an irreversible chemical reaction that destroys both the superoxide and the nitric oxide. Peroxynitrite is not antiviral against SARS-CoV-2's spike. What it does do is contribute to nitrosative stress.

Superoxide also has other downstream radicals, like hydrogen peroxide, hypochlorous acid, et cetera, and neutrophils dump out enzymes that make tons of these to try and destroy infections. If you have enough hypochlorous acid circulating around, it will actually destroy free heme and injure macrophages and promote the release of iron into the bloodstream. Unliganded free iron is highly reactive (just like it is outside the body, where it rusts readily), and when it reacts with hydrogen peroxide and superoxide, it makes hydroxyl radicals that are so reactive, they oxidize your lipid membranes within nanoseconds, causing irreversible damage.

This is why severe COVID-19 patients have the hallmarks of ferroptosis, or iron-mediated cell death caused by oxidative stress.


It's why they have antiphospholipid antibodies (something you usually see in fucking lupus), which form as a reaction to oxidatively damaged phospholipids.


What does Vitamin D do? It regulates intracellular calcium levels and reduces superoxide production by regulating NADPH oxidase. It also activates a bunch of beneficial genetic activity through its receptor. This, in turn, means less superoxide. Which, in turn, means less nitric oxide destroyed by reaction with superoxide to form peroxynitrite, which means more nitric oxide in the blood vessels, which means slower replication of the virus due to the nitric oxide preventing the palmitoylation of the Spike.

African-Americans, as a group, have far less nitric oxide production in their blood vessels than other ethnic groups. This is a proven scientific fact. It's why they're more susceptible to metabolic syndrome (hypertension, diabetes, etc.). It's also very likely why COVID-19 is so much more aggressive in their bodies than in other groups.


There are a number of ways to tackle this problem therapeutically, actually, on top of Vitamin D. Apocynin (it's found in Kutki Powder), quercetin, resveratrol, dietary nitrate, N-acetylcysteine, glutathione supplementation, et cetera. So long as you can prevent the positive feedback loop of inflammation and oxidative stress in COVID-19, you can probably keep someone out of the ICU.



I'll tell you how it makes sense. It makes sense if the motherfuckers out there who are intentionally perpetuating this crisis are sick, anti-natalist Illuminati bastards who are using a manufactured crisis to usher in the New World Order.

My only intentions in all of this, all along, were to see if I could find out what the hell COVID-19 was, why it caused the symptoms that it did, and what could be done to treat it. Back in March/April, I thought they were going to lock things down for, at the most, a month, to see if they could arrest transmission completely and prevent the virus from becoming endemic. But they didn't. They allowed it to become endemic, while also locking people down for months and months and months, to the point that their health and their livelihoods were jeopardized.

I have never seen such incompetence in my life. In fact, active malice is a far more reasonable explanation for the policies that public officials have pursued. Stuffing COVID-19 positive people into nursing homes in New York was not an innocent little mistake. It was murder. Andrew Cuomo has blood on his hands.
Good research sir.

As for Cuomo... How many times now has the media held something as a paragon only for them to have been lying?
 
got some fight with some commenter who preached the ''efficacity'' of lockdown and mask.
New zealand and australian can boaster all the way their lockdown was the best idea they did. Just wait during their winter this summer when they will inevitably reopen border and 2-3 undetectd asymptomatice case spread this shit to endemic level. The tear will be delicious
 
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Same, 1000IU vitamin D3, along with a magnesium calcium zinc supplement. D3 is animal sourced and the same as produced in your skin, so significantly easier for your body to absorb and process into the active form than plant-sourced alternatives.
Some people did a study in New Zealand on this exact thing, saw it yesterday. https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...inter-months/A6CD4FE5C649E0FAC9BCBAFB23538707
and have essentially promoted the facemask to the level of a mystical talisman, where if you wear it you're both saving yourself, those around you, and grandma from the deadly disease and "stopping the spread".
These same people will lick their fingers before flipping thru the grocery store flyers, they will wipe their eyes, and molest their face. They will also be the ones screaming for tighter restrictions on how people travel, and shame people for "unessential" trips out, meanwhile they are in the same store, buying the same god damned things. I drives me up the fucking wall sometimes, I want to shake certain people I know and go "are you stupid, are you fucking stupid, hello". Yea bro the N95 will totally filter things even though you have a full on beard. Either wear PPE properly or don't fucking bother at all, but we cant even have that now, because gov't got involved. If it wasn't for lockdowns, the thing would have burned itself out already. What the hell is Australia going to do? Stay closed forever, you can't stop it. I'm fucking mati today....
 
My chiropractor she's had vitamin D supplements for sale for most of the year. And she's been promoting it for quite some time to stop the Wuflu. However I just assumed this was more of her quackery because she also sells a Essential oils
 
I feel like I'm more of a "conspiracy theorist" now than I was 12 months ago because a shocking number of these theories turns out to be right.
It's not a conspiracy theory if it's just a fact that's not well-known.
 
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The only excuses I've seen for not recommending vitamin D is that people will misunderstand how to take it and just overdose on it, or they will think it will somehow prevent them from getting COVID-19. I don't doubt that there are plenty of stupid enough people to do either of those things, but the utter resistance there has been to it--even suggesting people go get their blood checked to see if they do have any vitamin deficiencies--is bizarre.
 
stop Being fucking moralist zuck

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COVID-19 is not what people think it is. It really isn't. If people listen to the way the media has presented this virus, they are told that it's a respiratory disease, that it's a pneumonia. While it's accurate to say that it causes a form of pneumonia and acute lung injury, what SARS-CoV-2 actually does is insidious. It attacks the lining of people's blood vessels and causes them to become edematous and leak into the lungs and other vital organs. People who die of COVID-19 do not die of pneumonia. They die of sepsis, heart failure, and disseminated intravascular coagulation brought on by vicious coagulopathy. This is why COVID-19 seems like an "everything-virus" that can injure every organ. It's because the blood vessels supply blood to every organ, and a virus that injures the blood vessels injures the organs, too.

But that's not all it does. COVID-19 also triggers hypoxemia by attacking the lungs, starving the brain and other vital organs of oxygen. It also triggers severe inflammation in each organ that it touches. And, on top of all of that, it causes extreme oxidative stress that leads to lipid peroxidation, ferroptosis, and injury to the mitochondria and reduction in their ability to generate energy for cells.

SARS-CoV-2 pulls a very strange sleight-of-hand with its host-virus interactions. Its proteins disable the body's own antioxidant enzymes, directly activate inflammatory pathways, destroy ACE2 receptors needed to inactivate bradykinin, and also act as calcium ion channels.

What groups of people are most strongly affected by COVID-19? Fat people and black people. What groups of people have metabolic syndrome and a reduced ability to deal with oxidative stress in their vascular endothelium? Fat people and black people. Let me explain.

As I've said before, inside our blood vessels is an enzyme called nitric oxide synthase that makes nitric oxide. Nitric oxide is a tiny signaling molecule that has many uses in the body, because it rapidly diffuses through normally impermeable cell membranes. Nitric oxide is also found in various other places, like cigarette smoke. Notice how smokers are less likely to develop severe COVID-19?

Nitric oxide is actually antiviral against SARS-CoV. It prevents the palmitoylation of the Spike protein of SARS-CoV, and research dating back years has shown this. Palmitoylation is the attachment of a fatty acid to a protein. In the case of SARS-CoV-2 and its spike, this makes it more infectious and makes it replicate faster.

Why does SARS-CoV-2 induce oxidative stress in the host by triggering intracellular calcium release and a bradykinin storm? Simple. It wants to destroy the nitric oxide in your body so it can replicate faster. Here's how that happens. When you have oxidative stress in your body, you have a lot of a free radical called superoxide floating around. This is the O2 anion referred to with the notation O2-. It's just O2, but it's missing an electron. It wants to strip that electron off of surrounding substances, like fats (like your cell membranes, cholesterol, whatever) in order to replace it. Free radicals are molecules that are "unhappy" because they're missing an electron, and this makes them prone to react to things around them in a process very similar to rust, or fire. Free radicals "rust" things in your body. That's what people mean when they say having an "antioxidant diet can help you live longer". What they're actually saying is you should eat things that act as sacrificial molecules to donate electrons to these free radicals so they don't strip electrons off of your cells, your DNA, whatever. Anyway, oxidation-reduction reactions in the body are vital for just about everything, including, uhh, breathing, so you can't live without them. But, I digress.

When superoxide comes in contact with nitric oxide, it forms peroxynitrite by an irreversible chemical reaction that destroys both the superoxide and the nitric oxide. Peroxynitrite is not antiviral against SARS-CoV-2's spike. What it does do is contribute to nitrosative stress.

Superoxide also has other downstream radicals, like hydrogen peroxide, hypochlorous acid, et cetera, and neutrophils dump out enzymes that make tons of these to try and destroy infections. If you have enough hypochlorous acid circulating around, it will actually destroy free heme and injure macrophages and promote the release of iron into the bloodstream. Unliganded free iron is highly reactive (just like it is outside the body, where it rusts readily), and when it reacts with hydrogen peroxide and superoxide, it makes hydroxyl radicals that are so reactive, they oxidize your lipid membranes within nanoseconds, causing irreversible damage.

This is why severe COVID-19 patients have the hallmarks of ferroptosis, or iron-mediated cell death caused by oxidative stress.


It's why they have antiphospholipid antibodies (something you usually see in fucking lupus), which form as a reaction to oxidatively damaged phospholipids.


What does Vitamin D do? It regulates intracellular calcium levels and reduces superoxide production by regulating NADPH oxidase. It also activates a bunch of beneficial genetic activity through its receptor. This, in turn, means less superoxide. Which, in turn, means less nitric oxide destroyed by reaction with superoxide to form peroxynitrite, which means more nitric oxide in the blood vessels, which means slower replication of the virus due to the nitric oxide preventing the palmitoylation of the Spike.

African-Americans, as a group, have far less nitric oxide production in their blood vessels than other ethnic groups. This is a proven scientific fact. It's why they're more susceptible to metabolic syndrome (hypertension, diabetes, etc.). It's also very likely why COVID-19 is so much more aggressive in their bodies than in other groups.


There are a number of ways to tackle this problem therapeutically, actually, on top of Vitamin D. Apocynin (it's found in Kutki Powder), quercetin, resveratrol, dietary nitrate, N-acetylcysteine, glutathione supplementation, et cetera. So long as you can prevent the positive feedback loop of inflammation and oxidative stress in COVID-19, you can probably keep someone out of the ICU.



I'll tell you how it makes sense. It makes sense if the motherfuckers out there who are intentionally perpetuating this crisis are sick, anti-natalist Illuminati bastards who are using a manufactured crisis to usher in the New World Order.

My only intentions in all of this, all along, were to see if I could find out what the hell COVID-19 was, why it caused the symptoms that it did, and what could be done to treat it. Back in March/April, I thought they were going to lock things down for, at the most, a month, to see if they could arrest transmission completely and prevent the virus from becoming endemic. But they didn't. They allowed it to become endemic, while also locking people down for months and months and months, to the point that their health and their livelihoods were jeopardized.

I have never seen such incompetence in my life. In fact, active malice is a far more reasonable explanation for the policies that public officials have pursued. Stuffing COVID-19 positive people into nursing homes in New York was not an innocent little mistake. It was murder. Andrew Cuomo has blood on his hands.
Is that why people who have diabetes are easier to get the worst case of COVID-19?
That would be makes sense since my acquaintances that died due to COVID because they got diabetes
 
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Is that why people who have diabetes are easier to get the worst case of COVID-19?
That would be makes sense since my acquaintances that died due to COVID because they got diabetes
Diabetes/hypertension/obesity = premature aging of the vascular endothelium, low vitamin D, and redox equilibrium issues = someone is more susceptible to COVID-19.





I think one of the most disturbing things I found in my research into COVID-19 wasn't even anything about the virus itself. It was that there is a massive epidemic of malnutrition in developed countries where people are eating empty carbohydrates with no nutritional value and ending up with preventable chronic illness as a result.

40% of Americans are critically Vitamin D deficient, and they want to lock us up in our homes forever so we never get any sunlight? Are they trying to kill us?
 
RNA vaccines don't modify DNA though so Zuck is an idiot.
They do modify *cells* though, but they don't touch the nucleus at all, and that's where the DNA is housed. They provide instructions to make the spikes directly to the surrounding machinery, bypassing the DNA entirely. I suppose something could happen in an already damaged or malfunctioning cell, or one that's splitting, but I don't think that would be enough to cause any cancer risk or general lowered cell efficiency.
 
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