General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

Not here, anyway. Other people I talk to have so I may echo their sentiments a bit. Most of my breakdowns have been from Karen's current work as Calli as I have yet to sink my teeth into the Dice discography proper.

Let's see if I can at least give a Cliffnotes version since you were nice enough to ask.

For Alkatraz, this is honestly the first time I've taken the time to read the lyrics and try to discern a message from it. The VISUALS are all about making a deal with the devil and the danger, but the lyrics are actually more about the subversion of authority and taking matters into your own hands. Considering her past work on American Saikoro is extremely political (aside from stupid shit like Gang Gang Kawaii which is just making fun of the idea that she's a closet fujoshi thirstin on weebs, may or may not be true) I wouldn't be surprised if she toned it down for Alkatraz. The first verse is mainly about boasting about herself and her circle, but towards the end it gets into the idea that she chooses to be an outsider artist and doesn't want a bunch of wannabes telling her what to do. The second verse can be seen as her ranting against politics with the idea of the "warden" being just as insane as the people he's locking up, but everyone only follows him since he's in charge. The animation plays this up with his silly dance and then it has the 2 honkytonk hustlers (they have names but I don't read Dice's comics so I don't know what they are) and Dice herself doing that same silly dance to distract the guards so she can break them all out; however, it could just as easily be a commentary on the industry and how the people who are at the top aren't necessary the ones in the right despite a bunch of sycophants saying otherwise and trying to compare her work (or anyone else's) with someone who is far more successful, essentially the equivalent of stream backseaters who sperg out when someone dares not to play the metagame of something that's competitive.

She honestly doesn't mind selling her soul so long as she's in full control of things, which is why she wants to break out. This is pretty obvious even after she became a corpo vtuber, I don't think she would have gone into it if she wasn't explicitly given creative freedom with her music.

Granted, Alkatraz is what I refer to her as her "safe for radio single" since it's catchy and lacking her typical bite that it would make it to a few plays on underground radio, or at least has that style. Her other music is good but can be difficult to listen to, especially things like Hazy Skyscraper which are just really depressing.

Hazy Skyscraper may or may not be about AO in particular but it is definitely about her feelings of isolation. Cursed Night is sort of a sequel to Hazy Skyscraper in that regard since she still has misgivings about herself but is more willing to let people in, but Hazy Skyscraper is 100% about Karen's struggle with emotional intimacy. She would rather convince herself that it's better off being alone with some token interaction with acquaintances than pursuing a deeper more meaningful relationship with anyone in particular, which is the titular "hazy skyscraper." It's a far off thing that she knows is important and can see it but can't quite make out the details, but just being able to know it's there is good enough for her so she stays distant. Said skyscraper could also be a mirage (which is why it's hazy) so she might be afraid that if she gets close then she'll realize she was going after something that was never there in the first place.

Soundless sounds like it's actually about realizing she wants that kind of connection with someone, like she's grown so cold that she met that one person (maybe AO) who started to remind her what being warm feels like and she's fucking terrified of that and is trying to make sense of her own heart. She also feels like that she needs to make her move quickly or lose her chance at happiness for good, but because she can't figure out what to do she's convincing herself that it's okay to let it pass and cherish what she's already found. "I found you, a harmony inside the darkness was bound to a melody I'd never heard before" definitely sounds "I found someone I really like and kind of want to pursue romantically but I have no fucking clue how to do any of that."

Once again I feel obligated to point out that Kakigori Galaxy Astronaut is her magnum opus and people really should give it a proper listen. She pours her heart out all over that album.


For reference, Yes. Karen can sing and she has a damn good voice, but her weakness is her range. She's working on expanding it but Soundless is really fucking powerful and emotional even if her vocal work can be seen as "needs work."
Thank you for your analysis man, it's awesome stuff and made some of it make more sense, especially with how at first I thought Alkatraz didn't have much depth more than the MV showed.
But yes, the tandem of Hazy Skyscraper and Soundless are just way too powerful. (still wish there was an instrumental of the latter though, that's also powerful as heck)


Pivoting to a little indie chubaa we've discussed before, Lyrica is just totally pandering to her Filipino audience at this point:

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YT Stream here

Stream has the same chaotic energy as a Filipino holiday gathering and everyone's fucking drunk and fighting over the karaoke machine.
She frequently 'panders' in the youtube streams, given that's the one meant for the PH audience (the Twitch ones are meant for everyone else). Consider that the YT streams are early morning for her, but 9pm in PH.
And yes she even did My Way. Also did a song decently, only to remember the scuff lol.
P.S. finally broke 50k subscribers, think that still makes her second among PH indies, behind Kaheru who just hit 100k?


Wait, even Kiara made a King cover?
 
doomposting everywhere jesus christ dudes she just told us she was ok
Those are just the morons. Someone did jump in the chat to explain it pretty well. The lore will continue but she is going to dial back the crazy antics so she can focus on doing other, idol-like things, while also making those Haachama days more fun and special. 'This was just a peek out from behind the curtain to thank the fans for support and the ride.' If anything, this felt like a thanks for 1 Mil stream.

It fits with the lore too. 'Playing Hide-and-Seek as kids,' 'The things I once believed were childish,' and the whole idea of that 'growth' montage earlier. Haachama was her wacky outlet while in Australia and an experimentation with entertainment. Now she's back, grown up a bit, and wants to take the whole industry more seriously. It's great really.
She should be proud of what she did, though. I don't know of any other entertainer who can just come up with an ARG involving themselves and just playing off the fact that they're a naturally weird person.
She should be. It was a cool break from the APEX and Karaoke that really engaged. Pure personality. Only 10 more days to go until another little revival. Also, you did break down some of DD's songs here pretty well a while back in the thread, about when Calli first started streaming and people began doomposting. Always find the look insightful since I stay out of most fan discords.
Surprisingly good too, amongst other KING covers.
Best one I've heard so far, and I unironically actually like the song. Pure class.

Edit: What the fuck is the White-Fox-Friend playing. Game looks and sounds creepy as hell. But also strangely cool.
Looks up. . . ah. . . between this, Botan's existence, and the Papers Please streams. . . I'm a seeing a trend here. Hololive-Ironcurtain ETA?
 
That’s Kurose’s (GS manga artist’s) work alright. If it’s not on his personal twitter, than this dude may be legit.
I didn’t actually think about the alleged employee not being the artist but just someone who has access to it. That’s a good point. The artwork does kind of jive with the GS manga from what I’ve seen when I googled it, but that can just be my untrained eye talking.
 
She apparently is ending it
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Damn. Not bad at all.
 
Just a little update. That Neko Neneka VTuber? She is currently at 44.5 thousand subscribers and was ranked number one in growth for VTubers this week. She is also being picked up by translators too. Pity is Power it seems, but if the whole story is legit, and this has a happier end. . . we're watching the Vtuber version of the Emperor and the Beggar.
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These people disgust me. Fuck I bet he actually wears a hooded Itachi robe when he posts these videos.
Edit2: Doesn't include his channel so I have no fear. Enjoy lurkers, this guy is the epitome of desperate edge.
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Just a little update. That Neko Neneka VTuber? She is currently at 44.5 thousand subscribers and was ranked number one in growth for VTubers this week. She is also being picked up by translators too. Pity is Power it seems, but if the whole story is legit, and this has a happier end. . . we're watching the Vtuber version of the Emperor and the Beggar.
I hear that she gonna use all of her donation to pay her rent, and she mostly sleep without heater and always turn off the lamp to not high up the rent. I hope the story is true or she gonna being called fraud.
 
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Been looking for the Polka one for a while since the only thing I could recently find was that one picture of her on stage. Her Membership posts have been pretty interesting recently as well. Basically "Day in the life of her roommate" since she drops pretty any and all pretense of Polka.

Just a little update. That Neko Neneka VTuber? She is currently at 44.5 thousand subscribers and was ranked number one in growth for VTubers this week. She is also being picked up by translators too. Pity is Power it seems, but if the whole story is legit, and this has a happier end. . . we're watching the Vtuber version of the Emperor and the Beggar.
Luckily I'm not that cynical to think she'd lie about it, and I mean even if she was it's still pretty impressive to do a 14-day endurance stream (granted with sleeping). But that just makes me believe her story all the more since I can't imagine someone doing that for fun.

Edit: I do hope with the hype surrounding her someone can make her an actual Live2D model or something. If people can make decent Yagoo and Enma Live2D's it'd be nice if she could get one. That or after everything is said and done that she can afford to pay for one herself. I do like her character design though.
 
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I hear that she gonna use all of her donation to pay her rent, and she mostly sleep without heater and always turn off the lamp to not high up the rent. I hope the story is true or she gonna being called fraud.
That is the case, but she has actually surpassed her expenses number already. Now she is looking to gain better equipment, and from what I could tell from the fanbox (I didn't member so I couldn't see the details) she's working on or has managed to get a Live2d.
But that just makes me believe her story all the more since I can't imagine someone doing that for fun.
I agree. I always keep the doubt in the back of the mind, but I'll take a chance on this being real; if only to see a kinder story on the side of the Indie drama that will inevitably rise with the release of HoloEN2
INB4 she becomes a future Holiver though. Now that would be a lottery win.
 
Edit: What the fuck is the White-Fox-Friend playing. Game looks and sounds creepy as hell. But also strangely cool.
Looks up. . . ah. . . between this, Botan's existence, and the Papers Please streams. . . I'm a seeing a trend here. Hololive-Ironcurtain ETA?
Played Beholder a couple years ago, game was fairly good with an interesting setting and art style, it's nice to see it getting some recognition.
 
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Another doxx Youtube channel got recommended on my home feed and I was going to dismiss it as just as a compilation of the same old shit we've all seen before but it did have this one video:

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It's funny, that's the video the Calli-antis try to use as evidence that she's fat. and you can clearly see A) How well fitting that sweatshirt is every once in a while, just covered by baggy cloths, and B) She just has giant tits.



She's such a goon. Don't ever change Kiara. :story:

Marine's playing Undertale for the first time and it's going about as well as you'd expect - chat sperging about endings. I swear like half the Undertale fandom hasn't actually played the game and doesn't know that you can't get the true pacifist ending on your first playthrough anyway.

Luckily Senchou is smart enough to ignore the backseaters by not reading chat.

I did like Marine's scrolling bar at the top basically reminding people to not backseat. Reine also had the right idea on her stream, and just covered chat up completely. Between the spergs and the literal children, it's impossible to see the chat without some nitwit spoiling every part of it. Was watching Pekora play it, and the second she got to Undyne EN chat was filled with "RUN" and "NIGERO". It sucks they need to be told that their "helping their oshi" ends up ruining the experience for them.
 
Time to post Veritas to get a better look at her.

Veritas pre-dates the other clip though, 'no? Sure hope she's keeping in shape though despite the constant wine and take-out she consumers on-stream.

Pivoting to Ame though - her Project Diva stream shows on Playboard as having been deleted. Case of copyrighted material being played onstream? I know Gura was very selective about shit she could play onstream during her Taiko video.

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