The mental illness of being a faggot - "Why are you Gay?" - Black preacher man

Wait. So you're against condoms on principle? Not just in gay sex? Also, you don't think heterosexual sex causes disease? Like...you're basically saying the only true healthy way for sex to occur is between two people who have only ever had sex with each other which is just asinine.
That's the biggest strawman I have ever heard. I said that a "natural act" should not require manmade devices in order to be healthy. When manmade devices are REQUIRED, its no longer natural. condoms or other manmade devices are not required for healthy normal reproductive means for most people, with those who need manmade intervention of any reason suffer from some form of reproduction problem which isn't normal, but as I even say for the idea of someone "born gay", is not the person's fault. Try harder to taste the steak there bud, even if its not real.
 
I get the impression OP speaks from experience regarding the dangers of buttsex.
Little late for the joke there my dude, literally the first 2 pages are other spergs who already said it, in fact you yourself may have already made that joke. Thanks for following this thread so you can make a joke from the mid-2000s for the minute I post though, glad I'm so important to you :lol:
 
Little late for the joke there my dude, literally the first 2 pages are other spergs who already said it, in fact you yourself may have already made that joke. Thanks for following this thread so you can make a joke from the mid-2000s for the minute I post though, glad I'm so important to you :lol:
I think the point bears repeating
 
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...I said that a "natural act" should not require manmade devices in order to be healthy. When manmade devices are REQUIRED, its no longer natural...
I see. Sorry ladies, no c sections or abortions for you since it disrupts the primitive ways of reproduction our ancestors had hunting mammoths.
 
I see. Sorry ladies, no c sections or abortions for you since it disrupts the primitive ways of reproduction our ancestors had hunting mammoths.
Imagine looking 2 sentences down to see where I address this. You reject progressives are like Q-people at this point, just see what you wanna see.
 
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I find it very interesting how many people here will laugh and mock the deranged troon, but fully accept da gay. A gay is just as deranged as a troon. Transgenderism is a mental illness that causes self harm and has no evolutionary purpose in and of itself while also hindering other evolutionary purposes (anything regarding your natural sex organs). Being gay is more or less the same, but before I begin, remember that as the media is currently hammering tranny acceptance down your throat, it did the same for gays throughout the 90s and 2000s until it was accepted.

1) Does being gay directly cause you harm?
Yes, being gay, regardless of if you are a "top or bottom" will either permanently destroy your asshole, give you aids, or both. Those who point and say "well not lesbians bigot!", lesbians are a perfect example of how it causes MENTAL harm, as lesbian women often beat each other (tech. physical harm) and have plenty of other tell tale signs of mental illness. I have personally only known 2 lesbians in my life, and even with that low number, one was severely beaten by their girlfriend.

2) Does being gay have any evolutionary purpose?
No, being gay has zero benefit in a biological/evolutionary purpose, which many activities don't, but the difference is:

3) Does being gay hinder other evolutionary/biological functions?
Yes, besides the lost of function of your asshole, being gay is your brain malfunctioning, giving the lack of natural desire to have children. It's one thing to either have family planning or to choose not to, but the evolutionary desire is literally missing in a way. You still have the very deep urges to spread your seed/get pregnant, but you either mentally and naturally do not have the ability to desire the right gendered partner, or you do but you choose to be gay as a lifestyle choice, which takes my being gay from a mental illness to being a degenerate behavior that I am less forgiving of (I would not gas people for mental illness).

Lastly, if you believe people ARE born gay, not choosing it, the last thing to keep your noggin joggin' is this: Being gay has been considered a mental illness in the U.S. for years, and was listed as one in the early DSMs, but was later removed, as psychologically, the determining factor on if it is or not boils down to one key point: social acceptance. Pedophilia is only considered a mental illness because of the lack of social acceptance. Same is true for many other disorders. This is why many forms of autism are now no longer being classified as mental disorders, as very high functioning forms (not chris) are socially accepted as just a little weird. With that said, some mental illness are more accepted then others, and just because you have a mental illness doesn't mean you are a bad or evil person, but the first step is simply accepting that you are mentally ill if you are a faggot. :story:
Your average Westerner is been brained washed into thinking faggots are normal because man on TV with British accent said fags good. So they dont see the cognitive dissonance, after all they have always hated gays
trannys
pedos and most of them would be here saying how awesome trannys are unlike those evil pedos in 10-20 years.
 
I think you either don't understand evolution, or are giving it more consideration than it really deserves.

The truth is that there is really no such thing as "evolutionary purpose", because evolution has no purpose. The reason that any of us are alive is because nature has not selected us out of the gene pool, and the fact that homosexual behavior has been a documented part of human civilization since it's dawn should tell you that homosexuality clearly isn't at odds with human nature. It's obviously very much a part of it.

I'd also dispute the idea that sexuality is purely about reproduction. I'd argue that reproduction is more of a side effect, and that the primary purpose of sex (at least as far as we conscious beings are concerned) is recreational. Humans are a highly social species, and the emotional bonds that are formed through sexual intimacy have always formed an important part of our lives, and throughout human cultures, we have created rituals and roles around sex that clearly go beyond reproduction.

In some contexts, same-sex intimacy is arguably a useful adaptation, as it helps to relieve stress and strengthen camaraderie between members of the same sex in difficult circumstances. The Sacred Band of Thebes, for instance, were notoriously effective in battle, and their unit consisted exclusively of pairs of homosexual lovers.

The mental illness angle doesn't make any sense to me, because to be mentally ill is to be afflicted with a disposition that is either unwanted or harmful, and homosexual attraction is neither of those things in and of itself. There are definitely destructive and unhealthy practices which exist within the gay community, but I think that is attributable to certain attitudes which are extant within the community rather than the sexual preference itself. One could make similar observations about dysfunctional attitudes which may exist within certain ethnic communities, but that doesn't mean being a member of a certain ethnicity is a mental illness.
 
No naturally healthy act gives you diseases in the first place and natural didn't intend for you to invent rubber wear to do natural acts.
You can get a whole bunch of nasties from heterosexual sex, diseases that have been with us as long as we've been a distinct species. Longer in a lot of cases.
 
I think you either don't understand evolution, or are giving it more consideration than it really deserves.

The truth is that there is really no such thing as "evolutionary purpose", because evolution has no purpose[1]. The reason that any of us are alive is because nature has not selected us out of the gene pool, and the fact that homosexual behavior has been a documented part of human civilization since it's dawn should tell you that homosexuality clearly isn't at odds with human nature. It's obviously very much a part of it.

I'd also dispute the idea that sexuality is purely about reproduction. I'd argue that reproduction is more of a side effect, and that the primary purpose of sex (at least as far as we conscious beings are concerned) is recreational[2]. Humans are a highly social species, and the emotional bonds that are formed through sexual intimacy have always formed an important part of our lives, and throughout human cultures, we have created rituals and roles around sex that clearly go beyond reproduction.

In some contexts, same-sex intimacy is arguably a useful adaptation[3], as it helps to relieve stress and strengthen camaraderie between members of the same sex in difficult circumstances. The Sacred Band of Thebes, for instance, were notoriously effective in battle, and their unit consisted exclusively of pairs of homosexual lovers.

The mental illness angle doesn't make any sense to me, because to be mentally ill is to be afflicted with a disposition that is either unwanted or harmful[4], and homosexual attraction is neither of those things in and of itself. There are definitely destructive and unhealthy practices which exist within the gay community, but I think that is attributable to certain attitudes which are extant within the community rather than the sexual preference itself. One could make similar observations about dysfunctional attitudes which may exist within certain ethnic communities, but that doesn't mean being a member of a certain ethnicity is a mental illness.
U wot m8?
1. Evolution is a process of change where suitable mutations are "selected for" or disfavored by higher or lower propagation. Maybe you mean it has "no end goal"? Which is only true becuase theres not really an "end".

2. As for sex being more about pleasure than reproduction, sex is the only realistic means in which reproduction can happen (in any sort of scale). It having gathered other purposes doesn't change it being the only realistic way to have more generations of man. Sex in absense of pleasure would still continue s o c i e t y, albeit likely different (many other ways to have pleasure). Sex in absense of reproduction would end the species.

3. So does sickle cell anemia.

4. By not spreading your genes it is harmful from the evolutionary standpoint, and it certainly is aberrant from the normal, even if it is natural (like most illnesses).
 
I mean sure, I will say that being gay has absolutely harmed me in my life, BUT I will also say that I just can't be heterosexual. I tried it, it didn't work, I gotta have a woman, I can have the best guy ever, and my gay ass can't appreciate him enough. If people can change themselves, more power to them but really, who cares. I'm gay, whatever. I like chicks. Big fucking deal.
 
I find it very interesting how many people here will laugh and mock the deranged troon, but fully accept da gay. A gay is just as deranged as a troon. Transgenderism is a mental illness that causes self harm and has no evolutionary purpose in and of itself while also hindering other evolutionary purposes (anything regarding your natural sex organs). Being gay is more or less the same, but before I begin, remember that as the media is currently hammering tranny acceptance down your throat, it did the same for gays throughout the 90s and 2000s until it was accepted.

1) Does being gay directly cause you harm?
Yes, being gay, regardless of if you are a "top or bottom" will either permanently destroy your asshole, give you aids, or both. Those who point and say "well not lesbians bigot!", lesbians are a perfect example of how it causes MENTAL harm, as lesbian women often beat each other (tech. physical harm) and have plenty of other tell tale signs of mental illness. I have personally only known 2 lesbians in my life, and even with that low number, one was severely beaten by their girlfriend.
It honestly depends on how many persons a faggot sleeps with to permanently damage an asshole in addition to how roughly they like to get fucked. Furthermore, a top does not suffer damage to his asshole as he is a top. As to HIV/AIDS, I have a home test kit for potential partners and don't sleep with skanky men.
2) Does being gay have any evolutionary purpose?
No, being gay has zero benefit in a biological/evolutionary purpose, which many activities don't, but the difference is:

3) Does being gay hinder other evolutionary/biological functions?
Yes, besides the lost of function of your asshole, being gay is your brain malfunctioning, giving the lack of natural desire to have children. It's one thing to either have family planning or to choose not to, but the evolutionary desire is literally missing in a way. You still have the very deep urges to spread your seed/get pregnant, but you either mentally and naturally do not have the ability to desire the right gendered partner, or you do but you choose to be gay as a lifestyle choice, which takes my being gay from a mental illness to being a degenerate behavior that I am less forgiving of (I would not gas people for mental illness).
My asshole works perfectly fine, faggot. Okay, I really don't have an evolutionary function. I fail to see why we should all be slaves to strict evolutionary function or face censure from Xx_Retard Faggot 1488_xX. BTW...come up here to Idaho and I will show you my lifestyle as a faggot. I usually involves waking up by myself, wanking my meat, taking my dog for a short walk, driving to work, making breakfast there, workings a upper mid-level civil service job (meaning I have to deal with retards around me), shitposting on Kiwifarms, microwaving lunch, working for a few more hours talking to retards, driving home, walking my dog, make dinner, and perhaps getting so range time in.

That is my lifestyle as a faggot. If you want to chant me up at the town bar, I will be wearing some kind of 5.11 tactical clothing.
Lastly, if you believe people ARE born gay, not choosing it, the last thing to keep your noggin joggin' is this: Being gay has been considered a mental illness in the U.S. for years, and was listed as one in the early DSMs, but was later removed, as psychologically, the determining factor on if it is or not boils down to one key point: social acceptance. Pedophilia is only considered a mental illness because of the lack of social acceptance. Same is true for many other disorders. This is why many forms of autism are now no longer being classified as mental disorders, as very high functioning forms (not chris) are socially accepted as just a little weird. With that said, some mental illness are more accepted then others, and just because you have a mental illness doesn't mean you are a bad or evil person, but the first step is simply accepting that you are mentally ill if you are a faggot. :story:
How does me being gay impair my ability to talk to assholes everyday and get paid? My faggotry causes no disruption to my daily life (see above) such I fail to see how it is a mental disorder.

Help me walk this through, what are the criteria for a mental disorder?

It's not your baby being aborted, its not your problem. It's not my political philosophy being censored, so its not my problem.
An abortion is a termination of a human life. Arguably, this a is a violation of a babies negative right to life. I liken it to the state imprisoning someone, when in the custody of the state it is responsible for your wellbeing as you cannot leave.

Suppression of a political philosophy is a particularly egregious form of violating someone's negative rights as we have a right to hold even retarded opinions.

My faggotry does not infringe on your negative rights.
The problem is that society is promoting mental illness which hurts mankind in the long run.
I don't owe anyone shit.
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I'm not out here beating women in my local planned parenthood or gays in the gaybar, but I sure as hell care about society and want it to be better, not worse. Also, DSM-V probably also says being trans isn't mental illness, its become pozzed af and I don't care for what the new iteration has to say. Having faults and having a mental illness are different things and I wouldn't play semantics with it. thank you for an honest take though.
Spousal abuse happens in all types of relationships, its just higher in lesbian ones. Gays might report more because so many of them are pussies.

Again, what are the criteria for mental illness?

  • Claims that gay parents are just as capable of raising children as straight parents are misrepresented. Source:
    True. The studies of gay parenting are shit with small sample sizes, parents self reporting on the well being of their kids, sampling bias, etc.
  • Between 24% and 90% of lesbians report being psychologically abused by their partners. Source:
    True. But you probably have to be a SJW to get to 90% by counting verbal abuse or an evil gaze.
  • Gay men are 60x more likely to have HIV than straight men.
    Men like to fuck. When it is two dudes, its doubly so.
  • 46% of male homosexuals report being molested, as compared to only 7% of heterosexual men. Source:
    Perhaps, don't know. I was never molested.
  • Gays are more likely than straight people to have mental illness. Source:
    Probably.
  • 1/4 gay men in America have had over 1000 sex partners. Source:
    Might be true but I have seen that the data was collected from a gay porn magazine with a questionable population, a possible desirability bias (ask a fratbro how many women he fuck, its usually lower), small sample size, low response rate.
  • 43% of gay men have over 500 partners.
    Ibid
  • Gay men are six times more likely to commit suicide than straight men.
    Might be due to harassment.
  • Gay men are 12x more likely to use amphetamines than straight men.
    Probably true given the party and play scene.
  • Gay men are 10x more likely to use heroin than straight men. Source:
    Ibid
  • Liberal arguments in favor of homosexuality are based on logical fallacies.
    So are the conservative ones.
  • 10 to 15 percent of older homosexuals have more than 1000 sex partners.
    Probably closer to the truth. Men like to fuck.
  • Gay people are 2-3x more likely to abuse alcohol than straight people.
    Probably true given the party and play scene.
  • Up to 50% of lesbians have reported sexual abuse.
    Possibly but we need to keep in mind that certain studies have found that 23% of college women have been raped.
  • 79% of homosexual men say over half of their sex partners are strangers.
    Not buying to book to look up the study or survey. Please cite original sources. Does a Tinder or Grindr profile count as a stranger? When was this survey conducted.
  • 99.8% of lesbian, gay and bisexual teens will change their sexual orientation within 13 years. Source:
    The actual findings:
    Compared with males, females were less stable in same-sex attraction, but more stable in both-sex attraction. The majority of people who reported same-sex attraction did not report having a same-sex romantic partner before they entered adulthood, and those who reported a same-sex romantic partner were more likely to maintain their same-sex attraction than those who did not. As males got older, the gender of their romantic partner tended to become more consistent with their sexual attraction. However, for females, the consistency between the gender of their romantic partner and sexual attraction did not change over time.
    TL;DR: LUGs!
    someone who for whatever personal/logistical reasons decides to be a lesbian until graduation. the seriousness of this can range from officially identifying as a lesbian (possibly accompanied by an elaborate coming out process) to avoidance of the offical term and simply fucking around with girls. rather like cinderella after midnight, these are the girls who revert back to the male half of the species after leaving the college bubble.
  • Two-thirds of men and women who were homosexual change their orientation to heterosexual five years later. Source:
    Your source cannot be found so I dunno.
  • Two thirds of self-identified lesbians later have heterosexual relationships.
    See LUGs!
  • Identifying as lesbian, gay or bisexual does not end sexual questioning or confusion.
    Your source cannot be found so I dunno.
  • One in eight gay men in London has HIV.
    Probably, we have Palm Springs and the even worse White Party.
  • Gay men are twice as likely as straight men to be in interracial relationships.
  • In Australia, 25% of homosexuals have had more than 100 sex partners. Source:
    Men like to fuck.
  • In 2010, homosexuals were about 200 times more likely than everyone else to be diagnosed with HIV. Source:
    Probably.
  • Gay men are 15 times more likely to have Hepatitis B than everyone else. Source:
    Men like to fuck, more fucking leads to more diseases.
  • Homosexuals are more to use illegal drugs and drink to excess than straight people. Source:
    Probably true given the party and play scene.
  • Gay men are 10-15 times more likely than straight men to have eating disorders. Source:
    Being a twink or bear is hard!
  • 40% to 60% of serial killers are homosexuals. Source:
    Possible but, I am concerned about a 20% error rate. The site is hard to read and most don't have descriptions.
  • Homosexual men are more likely to have been abused by their partners than straight men. Source:
    So straight men don't get beat on by women...okay
  • Most “long term relationships” between gay men last less than eight years.
    Open relationships are more common in gay relationships
  • Among gay Canadian men in “committed relationships, only 25% were monogamous.
    Open relationships are more common in gay relationships
  • Active homosexual men are 17 times more likely than straight people to have anal cancer. Source:
    Probably given that anal sex can damage the asshole.
  • Lesbians are 2.5x more likely than straight women to be obese. Source:
    Probably
  • Married lesbians are 2-3 times more likely to divorce than straight couples.
    Probably true, its called lesbian bed death.
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Dude, if you really are a faggot and are unhappy being one I suggest an ex-gay therapist or camp. I think its a waste of money and eventually you will have a broken straight marriage and still crave dick but I am just a random faggot on the internet.
 
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I have personally only known 2 lesbians in my life
OP, if I understood you correctly, you know 2 or more lesbians but you don't know or at least are friends with any gay man? I might have a answer for that.
it did the same for gays throughout the 90s and 2000s until it was accepted.
Oh boy, do we live in the same planet? You can go to the most "liberal" places in the US and still see a shit-ton of homophobia.

Ok, so apparently you know some borderline batshit insane lesbians and your whole conception of "being gay" is based on that? That's common.
You see, you probably know a lot of gay men but you don't know that they are gay (they are not "out" to you), if you lurk or really just interact with some gay men you'll quickly learn why some don't like lesbians (hint hint) and believe me of not, gay man "straight passing" God I hate that term are very common, this is reason #1 why you think you don't know a lot of gay men, they are almost literally invisible and will not use their sexuality as a personality trait, also since there is no obvious body modification, I can guarantee you that even the gayest of the gays cannot tell for sure whether a guy is gay or not, and that plays a huge role in the whole acceptance thing, since for "everyone else" the gays are invisible for the most part.

And for the other points:
regardless of if you are a "top or bottom" will either permanently destroy your asshole
Side gays are a thing.
Does being gay have any evolutionary purpose?
If you think being gay is a mental disease and you believe in evolution, than this problem will sort itself eventually, right? Or does the "increase" in gays prove that it either is not a mental disease (since they can't* reproduce) or is evolution a myth?
Does being gay hinder other evolutionary/biological functions?
Not really, gay men (and women) have fully functional reproductive system that are not used "as intended".
Lastly, if you believe people ARE born gay, not choosing it
Then please tell me where the fuck is science with my de-gay pills, a lot of people already mentioned this but yeah, choosing to reduce your dating pool and potentially get disowned by your family and having to deal with homophobia is such a fucking retarded option that it's baffling that someone with a half functioning brain would take that route, no wonder why suicide is an actual problem in the gay demography.

OP, get out of the closed ASAP or at least don't form your opinions based on the worst of the community demography, once you know someone that "seems normal but happens to be gay" you'll understand.
 
OP, if I understood you correctly, you know 2 or more lesbians but you don't know or at least are friends with any gay man? I might have a answer for that.

Oh boy, do we live in the same planet? You can go to the most "liberal" places in the US and still see a shit-ton of homophobia.

Ok, so apparently you know some borderline batshit insane lesbians and your whole conception of "being gay" is based on that? That's common.
You see, you probably know a lot of gay men but you don't know that they are gay (they are not "out" to you), if you lurk or really just interact with some gay men you'll quickly learn why some don't like lesbians (hint hint) and believe me of not, gay man "straight passing" God I hate that term are very common, this is reason #1 why you think you don't know a lot of gay men, they are almost literally invisible and will not use their sexuality as a personality trait, also since there is no obvious body modification, I can guarantee you that even the gayest of the gays cannot tell for sure whether a guy is gay or not, and that plays a huge role in the whole acceptance thing, since for "everyone else" the gays are invisible for the most part.

And for the other points:

Side gays are a thing.

If you think being gay is a mental disease and you believe in evolution, than this problem will sort itself eventually, right? Or does the "increase" in gays prove that it either is not a mental disease (since they can't* reproduce) or is evolution a myth?

Not really, gay men (and women) have fully functional reproductive system that are not used "as intended".

Then please tell me where the fuck is science with my de-gay pills, a lot of people already mentioned this but yeah, choosing to reduce your dating pool and potentially get disowned by your family and having to deal with homophobia is such a fucking retarded option that it's baffling that someone with a half functioning brain would take that route, no wonder why suicide is an actual problem in the gay demography.

OP, get out of the closed ASAP or at least don't form your opinions based on the worst of the community demography, once you know someone that "seems normal but happens to be gay" you'll understand.
I have been civil with pretty much all the gays/gay supporters in this thread despite them calling me a closeted gay amongst other things, but fuck off fag, I don't have pity for people crying homophobia, its no better then black fragility crying over muh racism. I never said anything about the gay men I know, I simply noted the two different lesbians to show that even in my small sample size, I saw it. If you don't like antidotes, go look at the stats. You instead assumed my experiences with gay men and created your whole argument based off of it.

AGAIN, as I repeat for the 1000x time in this thread, mental illness does not mean "kill all gays", and frankly, should be treated no different then say someone with autism (assuming there is no choice, where your "comeback" was you complaining about dating pools? ). Stop assuming I am a redneck closeted gay who wants you dead. Just because that is the easiest strawman to attack, it does not represent any of my arguments or tone with people here.

Lastly,
 
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