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Your on a forum where people laugh at cows.

You are considered a cow by many on this forum and people write about you accordingly. You seem to have difficulty accepting this.

The "weird" thing is you coming on this obscure doxing forum to defend yourself against anons you perceive as "wierdos" and seek validation because apparently YouTube and Twitter fame are not enough.

I'm trying to imagine Elvis, Stan Lee or even Todd McFarlane having a dysfunctional enough ego to spend hours weekly on a forum designed to laugh at them angrily calling people weirdos while simultaneously seeking approval. And those guys have/had serious egos.

That said, keep coming back. I enjoy watching you rail against people who don't think your as special and talented as you would like.

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You too @NasserRabadi13 & @TheCosmicWarrior
It IS weird, but I like it here. I get good ideas from KF.
 
Speaking of which, all of the new Allegiance Arts titles were supposed to be back in Walmart on Feb 19, including the third and final installment of Red Rooster. Does anyone know if that happened? I don't see it on walmart.com.

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I'm pretty sure Mitch said book three was late for both Walmart and backers.

I'm interested to know how all these books are selling in Walmart. Will this contract be renewed or has it been a failure.

I'd like to see comics make a return to retail but I had serious doubts about the execution on this initiative.

It IS weird, but I like it here. I get good ideas from KF.
You also sperg like a retard the moment anyone criticizes your creative short comings. (I liked it most when you lost it over faking perspective)

That's the cow that keeps me coming back to this forum. You and the two ass kissers you fucked over two years ago who can't tongue down your sphincter fast enough today.

Keep up the good work Ethan.

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Speaking of which, all of the new Allegiance Arts titles were supposed to be back in Walmart on Feb 19, including the third and final installment of Red Rooster. Does anyone know if that happened? I don't see it on walmart.com.

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Mitch is too busy taking vacations and joking about fucking kids on Epsteins pedo Island to work on his comic.
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Cyberfrog feels like a real character, and I can see Ethan's passion for this project in the writing and art. It's his best art he's done in his career--and he's done some of the best books DC has ever put out, and he managed to outdo himself.
In this context "Feels like a character" reads almost like "Kinda passes for real writing". Especially when you put that next to care measurements, which is what you say to that special kid when you search for a compliment. "That's ok honey what matters is that you gave it it all". I know kissing the ring is the membership fee at this point but your true feelings are showing Nasser. Be careful not to trigger Froggot's paranoia
 
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Speaking of which, all of the new Allegiance Arts titles were supposed to be back in Walmart on Feb 19, including the third and final installment of Red Rooster. Does anyone know if that happened? I don't see it on walmart.com.
I was at my local Walmart last week and the Allegiance Arts display that had been there before was nowhere to be found. But I mean it's been over 7 months since the last issues came out, so this can't be a surprise to anyone. Imagine my shock at the fact the Mitch can't even fulfill his obligations to Walmart.

The numbers I'd really love to see are the refunds on the Red Rooster campaign. The funding total doesn't change after it closes, but the comments are absolutely filled with refund requests spanning back to 2019. There's no way Mitch continues with Red Rooster after this whole shit show is finally over. Unfortunate, because the product is actually good. The best of the Allegiance Arts books by far. I just don't understand why he had to be so unbelievably slow with his art.
 
Should have refunded that book when it was possible.
Only Indiegogo I ever refunded.
In this context "Feels like a character" reads almost like "Kinda passes for real writing". Especially when you put that next to care measurements, which is what you say to that special kid when you search for a compliment. "That's ok honey what matters is that you gave it it all". I know kissing the ring is the membership fee at this point but your true feelings are showing Nasser. Be careful not to trigger Froggot's paranoia
So it's bad to say the characters felt real?
I just don't understand why he had to be so unbelievably slow with his art.
Because he just wasn't drawing. Nobody draws slow or writes slow, they just aren't doing the work.
 
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I don't think Ethan really fits the criteria of being a lolcow and is more kiwi than some users would be willing to admit. Other than wearing some outrageous outfits from time to time, he doesn't really exhibit any lolcow behavior.

Comicsgate really doesn't have as many true lolcows as Weeb Wars or other parts of the site; other than Liam Gray, Sketch Therapy and several of the Warcampaigners.

I'd even argue Micah Curtis isn't really a lolcow, just a fat idiot.
 
I was at my local Walmart last week and the Allegiance Arts display that had been there before was nowhere to be found. But I mean it's been over 7 months since the last issues came out, so this can't be a surprise to anyone. Imagine my shock at the fact the Mitch can't even fulfill his obligations to Walmart.

The numbers I'd really love to see are the refunds on the Red Rooster campaign. The funding total doesn't change after it closes, but the comments are absolutely filled with refund requests spanning back to 2019. There's no way Mitch continues with Red Rooster after this whole shit show is finally over. Unfortunate, because the product is actually good. The best of the Allegiance Arts books by far. I just don't understand why he had to be so unbelievably slow with his art.
I'm beginning to wonder if this Allegiance debacle has set back the chances of getting comics back into regular stores.

Walmart has to be thinking this isn't what they signed on for at this point.

I can't speak for the other AA books but they seemed to have some promise. (I wouldn't buy them at this point because I don't want to support Mitch.) Red Rooster on the other hand is a good looking disappointment to me so far. The story just seems uninspired. Mitch's art is nice but not 3yrs to do 75 pages (or whatever) nice.

Funny that he had Tim Lim's writer working on it. The writing on Lim's books is getting nothing but positive response. Mark Pellegrini has stated that most of his work on RR has been rewritten or otherwise changed and he doesn't want credit for what it's become.

Had Mitch stuck with Pelegrini and focused on putting out beautiful consistently on time work like Lim would Breitwiser be enjoying the kind of growth Lim is but starting from hundreds of thousands instead of tens of thousands?

The concept for Red Rooster is no worse than Kamen America and Mitch's art is at least on the same level or better than Lim's. If Mitch had hired a manager to deal with the Walmart details and focused on what he's good at (drawing super heroes) would he be on the 12th or 13th issue of a semi monthly book being distributed to a national retail chain right now?

That would be millions of books...

We'll never know because Mitch is clearly not that guy. He's the control freak who launched a gay op against Lim and others to draw attention away from the fact that his chronically late book would be delivered to Walmart before the supporters who made it possible.

A lot of wasted potential there.

So it's bad to say the characters felt real?
Not bad. Just useless without elaborating why.

As description goes it's like saying "Because it tastes good." It's a subjective endorsement without reasoning to back it up.

Because he just wasn't drawing. Nobody draws slow or writes slow, they just aren't doing the work.
I agree. When books are more than a year late they aren't working at they're own pace. They're not working at all.

But you aren't supposed to point that out Nasser.

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I don't think Ethan really fits the criteria of being a lolcow and is more kiwi than some users would be willing to admit. Other than wearing some outrageous outfits from time to time, he doesn't really exhibit any lolcow behavior.

Comicsgate really doesn't have as many true lolcows as Weeb Wars or other parts of the site; other than Liam Gray, Sketch Therapy and several of the Warcampaigners.

I'd even argue Micah Curtis isn't really a lolcow, just a fat idiot.
What would be the criteria for a lolcow then?

I'd think Micah's egomania/idiocy and Frog's egomania/drama fueled cult of personality have provided plenty of laughs. Richard Meyer and SJW's aside most of the laughs on this board can be traced back to one man without whom there'd be no Fall of Rome, WarCampaign, Liam Grey, The Glove, Wart the Wizard, PP's "This Week in CG", Dynamite, non-mayonaise resistent collector coins and so much more. There's a common thread that runs through all the retardation.

Perhaps it would be better for me to ask: What excludes EVS from being a cow in your estimation?
 
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I don't think Ethan really fits the criteria of being a lolcow and is more kiwi than some users would be willing to admit. Other than wearing some outrageous outfits from time to time, he doesn't really exhibit any lolcow behavior.

Comicsgate really doesn't have as many true lolcows as Weeb Wars or other parts of the site; other than Liam Gray, Sketch Therapy and several of the Warcampaigners.

I'd even argue Micah Curtis isn't really a lolcow, just a fat idiot.
It's sometimes difficult to know whether he's a lolcow or a grifter, but being charitable I do place him squarely in the lowcow camp as most of his vast accumulation of public, BPD-girlfriend behaviour seems to be the result of impulsive tantrums rather than insincere strategy.

As to being a Kiwi and a cow, all it would take is a public face and a YouTube channel and I think most of us would end up becoming Kiwi-cows (I mean look how we spend out time!)
 
I don't think Ethan really fits the criteria of being a lolcow and is more kiwi than some users would be willing to admit. Other than wearing some outrageous outfits from time to time, he doesn't really exhibit any lolcow behavior.

Comicsgate really doesn't have as many true lolcows as Weeb Wars or other parts of the site; other than Liam Gray, Sketch Therapy and several of the Warcampaigners.

I'd even argue Micah Curtis isn't really a lolcow, just a fat idiot.
I'd argue that calling Micah Curtis a lolcow would be a compliment because it implies that people care enough to pay attention to him and his midget hands.
It's like he saw Mac from "It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia" and went "yup, I think that's who I'll be."

Frog makes a better kiwi than a lolcow, but he does have the occasional (entertaining) lapses in judgement, speaking of which:
@FROG You have many dedicated fans who are eager to please you in any way they can. If you continue to implicitly request marijuana on your streams it's only a matter of time before one of them attempts to mail you some via UPS and gets charged with interstate trafficking. I'm genuinely surprised this hasn't already happened. You're better off going through a personal friend or waiting until NJ dispensaries get up and running. It'll only get easier as time goes on.
 
The frustrating thing about Allegiance Arts and its Walmart contract is that the goal of circumventing all of the mainstream's blacklisting in one fell swoop by getting nationally distributed was a great one. But nearly every failing that could hypothetically happen carrying out the idea in fact did happen. Mitch Breitweiser demanded the forking over of creators' IPs to the publisher (himself), failed to deliver his product to the customers, failed to deliver to WalMart and finally failed whatever principles he initially held by blocking and hiding from the customer and eventually disavowed any history with Comicsgate in the first place. Now Mitch's professional and moral failures hangs over like a cloud over anyone who tries to follow in his footsteps to try and get distribution in the public space outside the narrow, restrictive niche of youtube marketing.

Comicsgate really doesn't have as many true lolcows as Weeb Wars or other parts of the site; other than Liam Gray, Sketch Therapy and several of the Warcampaigners.

I'd even argue Micah Curtis isn't really a lolcow, just a fat idiot.
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What would be the criteria for a lolcow then?

To me the true mark of a lolcow is a consistent showing of public dysfunction. As an example, Jonathan Yaniv, a vexatious litigant Canadian troon who's constantly on social media and trying to wrangle pedophilic gatherings together meets all these categories. While Frog and many other Comicsgate figures definitely have their moments (Life without Liam #4 being the gold standard) there simply isn't enough consistent output from most individuals to feasibly sustain a thread - the policy to include incidents as they happen in a general community thread (this thread) is in my opinion the correct one.
As Smug alludes to, even though Micah can be plodding and pedantic at times, the idea that people are going to find schadenfreude entertainment out of a recap of his latest gunpla-assembly vid or latest recounting of Gamergate to qualify as a true lolcow is simply unrealistic.

By contrast TUG for a long time did meet all of these categories, but by simply keeping his mouth focused on his work (at least publicly) and getting involved in less gayops that blow up in his face, has watched his own thread in Weeb Wars slowly die out from lack of momentum.


In more current news, whatever detente existed between Preston Poulter and DA Talks has gone out the window with the latter released this video "Preston P of PocketJacksComics #EXPOSED" a few hours ago. Summarized:

  • Poulter's intent to use the Comicsgate trademark as a means deplatforming CG creators
  • Regular guest and associate John Lamont's own enterprise in vampire lolita material
  • Preston making a tenuous equivalency between former Graded 0.5 associate and CG Ladies Night member Piper's situation and his, DA Talks arguing that the pornography Preston uploaded, copyrighted and monetized of becoming public knowledge was not comparable to personal lewds being distributed by Warcampaign.
  • DMs of Preston encouraging Testefy and Stu to put a spotlight on his ex-wife, promising them that she is the next Liam Gray in terms of lolcow promise (true, but still)
  • Finally, Preston's desire first to collaborate wih and then to create an organization of spergs that would parallel Warcampaign, dubbed the "Preston Knights", headed by Simptagion creator Molby/"HOLDtheTRUTHHOSTAGE".
 
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What would be the criteria for a lolcow then?

I'd think Micah's egomania/idiocy and Frog's egomania/drama fueled cult of personality have provided plenty of laughs. Richard Meyer and SJW's aside most of the laughs on this board can be traced back to one man without whom there'd be no Fall of Rome, WarCampaign, Liam Grey, The Glove, Wart the Wizard, PP's "This Week in CG", Dynamite, non-mayonaise resistent collector coins and so much more. There's a common thread that runs through all the retardation.

Perhaps it would be better for me to ask: What excludes EVS from being a cow in your estimation?
The criteria for a lolcow in my opinion usually involves some form of mental illness, which results in abnormal and/or abhorrent behavior. Individuals with a history of paranoia and forms of psychosis like gangstalked conspiracy theorists, or degenerates like troons, furfags and diaperfurs. As funny as it is to laugh at lolcows, on an emotional level they're also tragic figures. In addition to supplying laughter they should also inspire a sense of gratitude that we are not them.

The points you listed were entertaining but they weren't really examples of Ethan acting like a lolcow. The Fall of Rome was a fracturing due to built up pressure, Warcampaign were their own entity and not everything they did can be laid at Ethan's feet, Liam Gray is his own person/lolcow, The Glove instance reflects more poorly on Tim Lim rather than Ethan, Wart the Wizard was a crappy book by Mandy Summers which Ethan felt obliged to promote after denigrating it in this thread without knowing it was a CG book and Preston's Last Week in Comicsgate while informative and a useful resource never really inspired laughter.

The majority of lolcows are lonely, unmarried, without children and unsuccessful at life, Ethan doesn't fit this description at all. He has been married twice, has several children and has been rather successful throughout his life working on properties that are household names. He moved on from one extremely successful career and became his own man, generating revenue in the millions of dollars practically by himself.

An interesting challenge for any kiwis who believe he's a lolcow, would be to simply draft a thread for him? The farms prohibits threads created on members, but there are exceptions to this rule. Liam Gray has been a member of kiwifarms longer than I have been, but the mods determined that he was "halal" and approved his thread and moved it from the Prospering Grounds to the main site. If you can make the case that Ethan is a lolcow and provide sufficient examples in the form of clips, tweets, archives etc then the thread will be approved whether he's a member or not.
 
An interesting challenge for any kiwis who believe he's a lolcow, would be to simply draft a thread for him? The farms prohibits threads created on members, but there are exceptions to this rule. Liam Gray has been a member of kiwifarms longer than I have been, but the mods determined that he was "halal" and approved his thread and moved it from the Prospering Grounds to the main site. If you can make the case that Ethan is a lolcow and provide sufficient examples in the form of clips, tweets, archives etc then the thread will be approved whether he's a member or not.

Yeah, but that's a lot of effort. Better just to laugh at him when gets to big for his britches or when he starts trying to run gay-ops in this thread, I think it's better he remain a Schrödinger's lolcow.
 
The criteria for a lolcow in my opinion usually involves some form of mental illness, which results in abnormal and/or abhorrent behavior. Individuals with a history of paranoia and forms of psychosis like gangstalked conspiracy theorists, or degenerates like troons, furfags and diaperfurs. As funny as it is to laugh at lolcows, on an emotional level they're also tragic figures. In addition to supplying laughter they should also inspire a sense of gratitude that we are not them.

The points you listed were entertaining but they weren't really examples of Ethan acting like a lolcow. The Fall of Rome was a fracturing due to built up pressure, Warcampaign were their own entity and not everything they did can be laid at Ethan's feet, Liam Gray is his own person/lolcow, The Glove instance reflects more poorly on Tim Lim rather than Ethan, Wart the Wizard was a crappy book by Mandy Summers which Ethan felt obliged to promote after denigrating it in this thread without knowing it was a CG book and Preston's Last Week in Comicsgate while informative and a useful resource never really inspired laughter.

The majority of lolcows are lonely, unmarried, without children and unsuccessful at life, Ethan doesn't fit this description at all. He has been married twice, has several children and has been rather successful throughout his life working on properties that are household names. He moved on from one extremely successful career and became his own man, generating revenue in the millions of dollars practically by himself.

An interesting challenge for any kiwis who believe he's a lolcow, would be to simply draft a thread for him? The farms prohibits threads created on members, but there are exceptions to this rule. Liam Gray has been a member of kiwifarms longer than I have been, but the mods determined that he was "halal" and approved his thread and moved it from the Prospering Grounds to the main site. If you can make the case that Ethan is a lolcow and provide sufficient examples in the form of clips, tweets, archives etc then the thread will be approved whether he's a member or not.
Just to piggy back off of this, if anyone thinks they can do a thread or write up on Ethan as a cow? Go for it. I think it'd be a waste of time. Now admittedly, I don't keep up with Ethan like other folks here. The only time I lol'd at Ethan is when he flipped his little girl switch and started crying about being persecuted, and that was at least a year ago. One of the things that attract my attention is drama whoring, and while an argument could be made about the drama whoring he has done in the past, it pales in comparison to the other people we've showcased between CG and Weeb Wars. Ethan doesn't have shit on Liam, War Campaign has gone far beyond the normal thresholds of being retarded and unless I've missed too much, I've never seen Ethan go that far.

When folks complained about Ethan I was generally more interested in mocking Tug's stupid ass and his even dumber, fat fuck of a wife. He has his own thread and for good reason. I don't even have to tell anyone why Liam Gray is probably the biggest CG sped ever. And even then, some of the shit that a few of us have dug up on the Weeb War fags on both sides of that fight make a lot of the CG folks bullshit look like a fucking kids movie.
 
Now Mitch's professional and moral failures hangs over like a cloud over anyone who tries to follow in his footsteps to try and get distribution in the public space outside the narrow, restrictive niche of youtube marketing.
I agree. I wonder how badly Mitch might have poisoned the well for people like Simeti.



Obviously opinions will vary on what makes a cow a cow. My definition would appear to be broader than some.

To me the true mark of a lolcow is a consistent showing of public dysfunction.
I would say that multiple instances mark the cow. Consistency justifies a thread dedicated to them but I wouldn't say someone isn't a cow if there isn't enough regular loser behavior to keep people checking back daily.

Smug started a thread about Preston's prostitute nemesis Sheila and there was some good material there but I'm sure that thread has remained dormant as of late. Still I think she still a cow to this day.

I'd say Preston's porno hi-jinx and the ludicrous notion of Preston Knights qualify him as a cow but I don't think there's enough to start a thread there.

The criteria for a lolcow in my opinion usually involves some form of mental illness,
Narcissistic personality disorder is a fascinating mental illness and I would argue is the root of much of CG's drama over the last 3 years. The case that Ethan has NPD is not difficult to argue. What makes it fascinating is the positives that often accompany NDP. Charisma, persuasive ability, the ability and lack of compunction where gas lighting is employed and so on.

I'd ask you who other than someone with a mental illness would come to this forum for the express purpose of influencing perception of them by a bunch of doxers and admittedly irrelevant internet voyeurs? I'm sure the hundreds of hours he's spent reading and posting here have netted him $2-3000 in extra sales he wouldn't have had otherwise. Not a great ROI for someone who takes in over a million per annum.

I doubt the juice has been worth the squeeze financially.

An interesting challenge for any kiwis who believe he's a lolcow, would be to simply draft a thread for him? The farms prohibits threads created on members, but there are exceptions to this rule.
This would not be difficult to compile but sadly I haven't the inclination to do all that dredging up of past cowery most of which has already been compiled discussed and defended here. I doubt many would migrate from this thread to follow it anyway. I still get all my Liam news here as it's often posted here before it's posted on Liam's thread.
 
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It's nice that Donal took time away from watching someone else fuck his wife to keep up on what Nasser is doing on the farms. But still too much of a pussy to reply here, @Fathead ?

Just pay the kid already, Donalbetes
Here's what I mean by nobody writes or draws slow:

If it takes somebody 3 years to draw a 60 page book--like Mitch--it means he wasn't working on it, it doesn't mean he draws slow.

If Skottie Young spends 8 hours a day drawing, maybe he does 2 pages. If Bryan Hitch draws for 8 hours a day, maybe he hardly finishes one.

The point is that BOTH have something to show for it, because they were actually drawing.

If it takes 3 years to draw 60 pages, that's 1,095 days to draw 60 pages. That's 0.05 pages a day.

I don't care how detailed a page is, there's nobody that's doing 0.05 pages a day because they're "slow", it's because they aren't drawing. It means their days were spent doing literally ANYTHING other than drawing. There is literally NOBODY that holds a pencil in their hand and moves it so slow to where it takes them 3 years to draw 60 pages. They just aren't doing the work, and I don't know how else to word this to make somebody understand.

This is not the first time I've even had to explain this to donal. If you draw every day, you'll finish a book. If you write every day, you'll have something to show. It takes me 2 weeks to write a novel--it might take somebody else 3 months. But because we both wrote every day, we have something to show for it. Neither was "writing slow" both were just doing the work and finished at a normal pace.

I got all this from a Toddfather interview a few years ago. I think I even showed it off in a video:
 
Here's what I mean by nobody writes or draws slow:

If it takes somebody 3 years to draw a 60 page book--like Mitch--it means he wasn't working on it, it doesn't mean he draws slow.

If Skottie Young spends 8 hours a day drawing, maybe he does 2 pages. If Bryan Hitch draws for 8 hours a day, maybe he hardly finishes one.

The point is that BOTH have something to show for it, because they were actually drawing.

If it takes 3 years to draw 60 pages, that's 1,095 days to draw 60 pages. That's 0.05 pages a day.

I don't care how detailed a page is, there's nobody that's doing 0.05 pages a day because they're "slow", it's because they aren't drawing. It means their days were spent doing literally ANYTHING other than drawing. There is literally NOBODY that holds a pencil in their hand and moves it so slow to where it takes them 3 years to draw 60 pages. They just aren't doing the work, and I don't know how else to word this to make somebody understand.

This is not the first time I've even had to explain this to donal. If you draw every day, you'll finish a book. If you write every day, you'll have something to show. It takes me 2 weeks to write a novel--it might take somebody else 3 months. But because we both wrote every day, we have something to show for it. Neither was "writing slow" both were just doing the work and finished at a normal pace.

I got all this from a Toddfather interview a few years ago. I think I even showed it off in a video:
Jameson's artist abandoned the project to work for Malin. You ripping him for that is a little ironic given that like you he was doing his part and the artist like yours wasn't holding up his end.

Jameson seems to think you haven't studied writing to understand the craft. I'm inclined to agree.

Have you studied writing or are you hoping to develop the tools by writing?

I agree with you about artists not sitting down and getting the work done. CG is jam packed with such artists, some of them high profile, who have promised the pages and simply aren't doing the work. I suspect Cal would agree with you on that as Rob's lack of production is the bottle neck which stalled his book.
 
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Have you studied writing or are you hoping to develop the tools by writing?
"Study writing" how? The only way is to read a lot and write a lot.

I've read thousands of comics and written hundreds. That's all there is to it--figuring out what you like in a comic, what makes it good, and learning how to make your own books good.

I've heard this "You haven't studied writing!" bs form so many people and I don't know what they want from me--do I need a degree in literature or something? All it takes is writing a lot and reading a lot. That's it. There is nothing to learn from anything other than that (unless we're talking about the business-end of writing).

This year I've read 6 and a half novels already. Is that enough "studying" or is there going to be some dumb reply to this, like "OH NO IT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T GO TO A WORKSHOP AND PEER REVIEW 8 OTHER WRITERS!!!"
 
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