US Bankers Warn: Weimar Hyperinflation Is Coming To The U.S. - The roaring '20s!


Update (1815 ET): one day after the Weimar tweetstorm below, and shortly after our article came out, Burry tweeted the following:

People say I didn't warn last time. I did, but no one listened. So I warn this time. And still, no one listens. But I will have proof I warned.
Indeed he will.

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One week ago, Bank of America hinted at the unthinkable: the tsunami of monetary and fiscal stimulus, coupled with the upcoming surge in monetary velocity as the world's economy emerges from lockdowns, would lead to unprecedented economic overheating... or rather precedented as BofA's CIO Michael Hartnett reflected back on the post-WW1 Germany which he said was the "most epic, extreme analog of surging velocity and inflation following end of war psychology, pent-up savings, lost confidence in currency & authorities" and specifically the Reichsbank’s monetization of debt, and extrapolated that this is similar to what is going on now.

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There is, of course, another name for that period: Weimar Germany, and because we all know what happened then, it is understandable why BofA does not want to mention that particular name.

Of course, others have been less shy - in 1974, Jens Parsson wrote a fascinating, in-depth historical analysis of the hyperinflationary collapse of Weimar Germany under the original money printer, Rudy von Havenstein, "Dying of Money: Lessons of the Great German and American Inflations" one which we periodically remind readers is absolutely critical reading in preparation for what comes next.

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Then overnight none other than the Big Short, Michael Burry, who has been rather busy making waves within the financial community with his hot takes (most recently, his slam of Robinhood and his bullish view on Uranium), picked up on the theme of Weimar Germany and specifically its hyperinflation, as the blueprint for what comes next in a lengthy tweetstorm cribbing generously from Parsson's seminal work. And while the details are familiar to most monetary historians, the fact is that now none other than the man who was made famous in the Big Short is calling for Weimar-style hyperinflation in the US. Below is an easily digestible repost of Burry's lengthy Saturday tweetstorm, which shows just how similar our world is to that prevalent in the years just before Weimar Germany saw the most explosive hyperinflation in history.

The US government is inviting inflation with its MMT-tinged policies. Brisk Debt/GDP, M2 increases while retail sales, PMI stage V recovery. Trillions more stimulus & re-opening to boost demand as employee and supply chain costs skyrocket. #ParadigmShift
The US government is inviting inflation with its MMT-tinged policies. Brisk Debt/GDP, M2 increases while retail sales, PMI stage V recovery. Trillions more stimulus & re-opening to boost demand as employee and supply chain costs skyrocket. #ParadigmShift https://t.co/kNT4memOVt pic.twitter.com/Bdw1CDn3Yf
— Cassandra (@michaeljburry) February 20, 2021
"The life of the inflation in its ripening stage was a paradox which had its own unmistakable characteristics. One was the great wealth, at least of those favored by the boom..Many great fortunes sprang up overnight...The cities, had an aimless and wanton youth"

"Prices in Germany were steady, and both business and the stock market were booming. The exchange rate of the mark against the dollar and other currencies actually rose for a time, and the mark was momentarily the strongest currency in the world" on inflation's eve.

"Side by side with the wealth were the pockets of poverty. Greater numbers of people remained on the outside of the easy money, looking in but not able to enter. The crime rate soared."

"Accounts of the time tell of a progressive demoralization which crept over the common people, compounded of their weariness with the breakneck pace, to no visible purpose, and their fears from watching their own precarious positions slip while others grew so conspicuously rich."

"Almost any kind of business could make money. Business failures and bankruptcies became few. The boom suspended the normal processes of natural selection by which the nonessential and ineffective otherwise would have been culled out."

"Speculation alone, while adding nothing to Germany's wealth, became one of its largest activities. The fever to join in turning a quick mark infected nearly all classes..Everyone from the elevator operator up was playing the market."

"The volumes of turnover in securities on the Berlin Bourse became so high that the financial industry could not keep up with the paperwork...and the Bourse was obliged to close several days a week to work off the backlog" #robinhooddown

"all the marks that existed in the world in the summer of 1922 were not worth enough, by November of 1923, to buy a single newspaper or a tram ticket. That was the spectacular part of the collapse, but most of the real loss in money wealth had been suffered much earlier."

"Throughout these years the structure was quietly building itself up for the blow. Germany's #inflationcycle ran not for a year but for nine years, representing eight years of gestation and only one year of #collapse."

His punchline: the above was "written in 1974 re: 1914-1923" and then makes the ominous extrapolation that "2010-2021: Gestation" adding that "when dollars might as well be falling from the sky...management teams get creative and ultimately take more risk.. paying out debt-financed dividends to investors or investing in risky growth opportunities has beaten a frugal mentality hands down."

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We are there now. The only question is when do we enter the exponential currency collapse phase.




What's old is new again.
 
If everywhere is fucked, I can't see a poor country taking kindly to a large influx of people from an alien culture, who don't speak the language and whose currency is worthwhile only as toilet paper. If shit gets really bad I don't think migration will help. Do you have any skills that would be in demand in Eastern Europe? Or family? Otherwise I can't see it working out well, in the UK we hav elots of Easter Europeans. Polish mostly, and they send money back home to their family, so I imagine they would all go back if it wasn't profitable, and I bet America has a similar issue.


I know it isn't much of a consolation but I think a fair number of us are in a similar boat, so atleast you aren't alone. In this thread multiple people said they had plans to get their life in order and just needed more time, just think how many people DON'T have a plan. The majority of people aren't well prepared for anything huge, plenty of places are still fucked from 2008. Again if shit goes south it sucks, but I do feel better knowing I won't be the only one in unknown territory. I'm millenial and I don't know of anyone in my age group who actually managed to own their own home, if people invested in other assets they never mentioned it, and even if they did I doubt the average person would care to barter with gold and silver. Hopefully this is all just gay doomposting, but seeing people who just think the government should print more money scares the shit out of me.

What happened to uni students under pol pot?
Pol Pot had all the intellectuals killed. College students as well. Called them worthless shit stirrers.

If you ain't ready by now it's too late to get started.

If you want some place as a grand escape and adventure Id recommend Africa or south america. I get good feelings about russia being a good place for anti woke and college educated

Also America benefited from taking in refugees during the three world wars. Including cold war. Talents like Einstein and the like gave america it's technological boost.

A nation which will be neutral and acceptable (like america was during that era) would be ideal place to go. Which will be impossible with the world's current rash of hate whit ie and rise of authoritarianism.

As for me? No. Not in same place. My bad luck is result of pissing God off.

Which leads to my final bit of advice. Get some faith. You won't survive without it. It's essential during times where every breath might be your last to have faith in a higher power.
Where surviving to the next moment is achieved by sheer will.

These will not be fun times
 
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What happened to uni students under pol pot?

They were among the first civilian groups to be targeted for purges when the Khmer Rouge seized control of Cambodia. The academics and intellectuals in Cambodia generally favored capitalism and liberal democracy and were more likely to support the West and those who were left-wing generally favored the technocratic Soviet Union as opposed to Maoist China or the Khmer Rouge's brand of peasant rule that bordered on anarcho-communism at times.

Now, considering that the colleges were among the first places to be completely overtaken by the Woke Left and are more or less the places where this shit is pushed the hardest, imagine what would happen to academics, college students, and urbanite intellectuals if we got True and Honest fascism in America.

The ones in the STEM fields who aren't diversity hires will be kept around since I don't really see any viable right-wing counter-revolutionaries being autistic cottagecore luddite communists like Pol Pot was.

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Any one ever read about the after reports of the second gulf war?

Where various ethnic groups, clans, tribes, sects and factions started "clearing out" neighborhoods?

America is even more diverse. It's going be the same flavor just way worse without a unifying leader or ethos.

It's not going be city states. It's going be each block is going be it's own country
 
Any one ever read about the after reports of the second gulf war?

Where various ethnic groups, clans, tribes, sects and factions started "clearing out" neighborhoods?

America is even more diverse. It's going be the same flavor just way worse without a unifying leader or ethos.

It's not going be city states. It's going be each block is going be it's own country
You don't even need to look at the Gulf War when we have our own examples. Everyone loves to cite the Roof Koreans who stopped looters from destroying their area, and have every right to. What they don't tell you is that while yes Rodney King was black, and there were plenty of black rioters; the majority of people who were looking to loot little Korea weren't black, but Mexicans (and other southern flavors). People love to cite how it was over racist anti-black shit, because no one wants to admit a bunch of opportunistic vultures decided they'd get in on the action while the getting is good. Now in modern day with the Floyd riots; that one city had the Latin Kings arming up and saying "If you don't live here, you don't belong here." Now they were doing it to protect their own neighborhoods; but what do you think happens when city infrastructure gets destroyed and resources become scarce.
 
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My question is, where did it all go so wrong? Remember a decade ago when you had the belief that Barack Hussein Obama was going to usher in an Apple computer flavored utopia? What happened to that?

How did we end up instead with such an incredibly bleak situation so fast?

The irony is if you go further back in time than a decade ago you have things like the movie Children of Men (set in 2027) and the album Year Zero (set in 2022) that correctly predicted the future was going to be a nightmare, but it seems like there was a period of time around 2010-2012 where we wanted to believe we could correct course and the 21st century could be the groovy future we all dreamed about in the 1990s.
 
My question is, where did it all go so wrong? Remember a decade ago when you had the belief that Barack Hussein Obama was going to usher in an Apple computer flavored utopia? What happened to that?
In short, by the time you had all that hopium a decade ago you already had a dozen social and economic problems that were being kicked down the road for decades already; Time is just running out now, hence all the weird stuff happening now and projects like the great reset being proposed.
 
you know what Weimar Germany had?

Sexual deviancy accepted as the norm
The normalization of pedophilia especially the NAMBLA kind
exploitation of children by an entertainment industry (many performers in cabarets and burlesque were minors)
quack pseudo science devoted to studying gender and diversity
a population that cared more for hedonism and induglence than real issues like industry and trade.


He who fails to learn from history is doomed to repeat it...and in the end the Weimar republic got what it fuckin deserved
 
you know what Weimar Germany had?

Sexual deviancy accepted as the norm
The normalization of pedophilia especially the NAMBLA kind
exploitation of children by an entertainment industry (many performers in cabarets and burlesque were minors)
quack pseudo science devoted to studying gender and diversity
a population that cared more for hedonism and induglence than real issues like industry and trade.


He who fails to learn from history is doomed to repeat it...and in the end the Weimar republic got what it fuckin deserved
Don't forget that the first "successful" sex reassignment surgery happened in Weimar Germany.
 
Don't forget that the first "successful" sex reassignment surgery happened in Weimar Germany.
between renaming potato toys, banning the works of suess, drag queen story hour/drag kids. and having children troon out....I'm looking forward to the first of the book burnings when this woketopia bubble pops. I'll toss the first copy of the hips on the drag queen go swish swish swish onto the pyre....yes that is a real children's book by the way.
 
I have a degree in finance. I took enough economics classes to make your ears bleed.

The financial policy that Trump, and now the Biden administration, has adopted is absolutely ludicrous. Josh mentioned today on MATI that Biden is walking back the stimulus checks, and he makes that out as if that's a symbol that Biden is two faced. No, that is absolutely not true. Biden is not giving out massive stimulus checks because he doesn't want to (you know he does), he's not giving out stimulus checks because even he isn't that retarded. Money literally only has one purpose. To be a representation of value. When you boost the money supply dramatically through government programs, like we've seen since early 2020, without increasing economic output (or reversing Economic output by shutting down """Non-essential""" businesses), then you're going to get inflation. Under normal circumstances, increasing the money supply to respond to a recession is fine, because inflation usually comes with a temporary boost to output before returning to normal output at inflated prices. We didn't have that boosted output though because governors like Whitmer, Newsom, and Cuomo kept their states shutdown. If we continue issuing stimulus checks right now without boosting output by ending the lockdowns, then we're going to literally dig ourserves into a pit that we can't get out of.

The Trump administration's monetary policies were retarded, but not entirely his fault. His plan was to get out stimulus checks, and have the economy reopened so people could spend those checks and boost output. On the federal level, this monetary policy was no different from usual responses to recessions. On the state level though, officials refused to open their economies because "If lockdowns save even one life, it will be worth it" and they knew any economic fallout would be blamed on Trump. What we saw this past year was essentially the same thing as the Titanic's first mate purposely plowing into an iceberg because he knew the captain would take all the blame for the ship sinking. That is why Republicans responded so harshly to lockdowns last year.

Biden's policies are literally retarded beyond belief. He's doing what Trump did with the stimulus checks while at the same time exporting industry abroad by removing Trump's economic sanctions/protections, and he's further pushing to limit domestic production by telling governors to strengthen their lockdowns. If I can give him anything though, he's at least not so absolutely retarded that he's sending out 2k checks every month like people like Sanders and AOC wanted. At least now that the vaccine is out, production should hopefully return to normal soon, but the longer we stay inflating the money supply without returning production to the usual level, the worse the inflationary effects will be when they finally hit the economy.

The worst part is """They""" (both the elites, politicians, and whoever else you're thinking of) already know about this. I regularly brush shoulders with people who are a magnitude smarter than me, who are industry leaders. Everyone knows this is going to happen and we're going to spiral into massive inflation, if not hyper inflation. They don't particularly care though. They've already off loaded their assets into inflation proof investments like gold and real estate. In fact, they have a term for it. I forget it off the top of my head, so if anyone knows it please share it, but it's essentially "If the government can print money to pay its bills, it should. It should not have to rely on tax payers to fund its projects". I hope you can see why this is absolutely retarded, but there are many, many people out there who believe that the government should be kept afloat solely by their ability to print money. Just writing this makes me mad. How can a man save and better himself if his earnings are worth half after a month? Some inflation is good because it pushes us to work harder and not just rest on our laurels, but the fact that there are unironically people out their that believe Weismar levels of hyper inflation is not only a good thing, but should also be monetary policy, is absolutely absurd.
Well great. What the hell are retards like me supposed to do if we can't buy real estate outright?
✅ Troon epidemic
✅ Huge crime spikes
✅ Media-approved racism
✅ Hatred for one's own nation being the norm
✅ A government that hates its people
✅ Hyperinflation

I didn't think we were literally going to become Nazi Germany 2, but at this point I don't know if there's any way around it. The stupid fucks who have control over our culture seem to be trying their hardest to make it happen.

Based on the previous time this exact series of events happened, we've got about 15 years until suddenly, for no reason at all, America elects Neo-Hitler into power, and then another 8 years after that until Holocaust: Black and Latino Edition. Or the establishment could stop sacrificing the health and happiness of its citizens in the name of power, but I'd say another holocaust is significantly more likely than that ever happening.
Assuming a "Great Man" of this type appears roughly every 200 years, and Hitler and Napoleon were born 120 years apart, then Hitler's birthday + 120 years means that Neo-Hitler is currently 12. He's probably a Zoomer slowly going mad from being socially isolated from his friends.
Or her friends. Girl Hitler. Imagine.
 
How did we end up instead with such an incredibly bleak situation so fast?
For the sake of brevity I won't link to all of my posts, but in a few Deep Thoughts threads discussing the start of wokeism/SJW I firmly and strongly proclaimed the theory that the tide turned in early 2012 upon the death of Trayvon Martin when identity politics went into overdrive. A few other other Kiwis argued that perhaps the real origins can be traced back to Occupy Wall Street, but then upon further discussion and negotiation, we agreed that wokeism was becoming mainstream as far back as the 2000's under George W. Bush, but really exploded at the end of Obama's 1st term as POTUS. Some people also posted an infographic showing how news articles discussion of racism grew exponentially at the start of 2012, which coincides with the end of Occupy Wall Street and the rise of identity politics with Trayvon's death.
 
My question is, where did it all go so wrong? Remember a decade ago when you had the belief that Barack Hussein Obama was going to usher in an Apple computer flavored utopia? What happened to that?

How did we end up instead with such an incredibly bleak situation so fast?

The irony is if you go further back in time than a decade ago you have things like the movie Children of Men (set in 2027) and the album Year Zero (set in 2022) that correctly predicted the future was going to be a nightmare, but it seems like there was a period of time around 2010-2012 where we wanted to believe we could correct course and the 21st century could be the groovy future we all dreamed about in the 1990s.

Depends on how far back you want to go; but the creation of the Federal Reserve, the 1960's equality shit combined with Johnson's "War on Poverty" which was feds going house to house to tell women they'd get money for nothing if they had kids and no husband. Activists and terrorists and the like going from criminal to college professors. There's too much shit to get into; but shit is only picking up so fast because there's been so much shit that instead of looking hard at it for a real solution, is just kicked down the road. When your problems are AIDS, Cancer, Multiple Organ Failure, this new Corona and more; shit degenerates rapidly, and with shit like culture, community, and God being a bad word, there's little to hold people together (as a self or group).
 
Everyone's busy looking for the next Hitler type. I'm putting my rapidly depreciating money on an American Pinochet.
Guns, ammo, body armor, food, land, silver, copper and gold in ingots, coins/rounds or even chain. In 'we're fucked' land chain may be best as you can clip off small amounts easily.
None of that matters if you can't keep any of that secure from the inevitable looters and marauders, so you're gonna need a loyal posse, preferably close and trusted friends and family.
 
>fourth mecha Reich is coming guys
>zero hedge

yeah imagine my fucking shock.
Zero Hedge: Successfully predicted 31 of the last 3 market downturns!

Assuming a "Great Man" of this type appears roughly every 200 years, and Hitler and Napoleon were born 120 years apart, then Hitler's birthday + 120 years means that Neo-Hitler is currently 12. He's probably a Zoomer slowly going mad from being socially isolated from his friends.
Or her friends. Girl Hitler. Imagine.
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My question is, where did it all go so wrong? Remember a decade ago when you had the belief that Barack Hussein Obama was going to usher in an Apple computer flavored utopia? What happened to that?

How did we end up instead with such an incredibly bleak situation so fast?

The irony is if you go further back in time than a decade ago you have things like the movie Children of Men (set in 2027) and the album Year Zero (set in 2022) that correctly predicted the future was going to be a nightmare, but it seems like there was a period of time around 2010-2012 where we wanted to believe we could correct course and the 21st century could be the groovy future we all dreamed about in the 1990s.
If I had to pick the absolute beginning, I'd say it was the 90s. That's when the idea of American Globohomo really started. Mexico's economy collapsed at that time, which is why illegal immigration is a current problem, the sub-prime mortgages were handed out which set up the Great Recession, and culture started to be dictated by corporate entities rather than regular people. Earlier decades still required enough realpolitick to be aware of threats. The 90s was the end of that kind of realist thinking. Without that kind of thinking, people no longer had to think in terms of efficiency or effectiveness, but on optics, which is what Identity politics functions on. Obama in 2008 was the apotheosis of positive identity politics (doesn't help that McCain sucked and has always sucked). He was, at the time, living proof that America had overcome racism. That's why black people were so quick to dick ride him. What it really proved was that identity politics was a winner and everything was done to cover up the effects of Obama's terrible policies.
 
Everyone's busy looking for the next Hitler type. I'm putting my rapidly depreciating money on an American Pinochet.

None of that matters if you can't keep any of that secure from the inevitable looters and marauders, so you're gonna need a loyal posse, preferably close and trusted friends and family.
Never defend alone, extra ammo and food are worthless if you don't have enough of a posse to use it all.
 
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