Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

Grave Ghost said:
The funniest thing about that is they used to have a dedicated music guy in 2018 who was making music for the mod and had about 20 songs on his YouTube channel including this cover of House of the Rising Sun(which was basically TNO's theme song) https://youtu.be/SsWJwKcr7BQ
What happened to him? Well apparently Park was being WAYCIST so Panzer kicked him and refused to use any of those songs he made.
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You know, I'm starting to think the mod would be far more developed if they didn't ban anyone for "waycism"
KiwiJoe said:
Again, what's the point for 70% of these warlords if no matter what you're going to lose anyways when you play as them? Just feels like a waste of time. Why even bother having them exist in the first place.
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This is a good point. Why play pretty much any path that results in annexation or defeat like Wales or Scotland when you are going to end up consumed by a resurgent England? Oh yeah because originally England could collapse into a failstate because Himmler hast the HMMLER leadership assassinated for some reason if they win and take his help. Instead Scotland and Wales get a half-assed focus tree for 5 years.
Übertroon said:
The writing in this outline is atrocious. Usage of terms like "wholesome ending" and "arrogant prick" just exemplifies what's wrong with TNO
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Noooo but Sablin makes a wholesome 100 social democracy unlike that stupid ConDem Tomsk leader!!!!!!
gibby123 said:
Bennett used to have a foreign policy tree which got scrapped before release because the main contrib on it got purged. You can still find it in the game files, in his national focus tree file.

The Devteam specifically with the input of Pacifica (I was on the USA or north-america-development team) was asked to put content in, to demonize Bennett. There was originally some mockups and talk about Bennett forming a "Silver League" which was full of racist capitalists and were the main enemy to Harrington's presidency but was scrapped because we were already so close to the release date for Cutting Room Floor.

This place is a real life horror story, and I highly advise you don't join even as a joke. I felt like shit writing every single event I needed to, even when I had joined to contribute to a mod I used to like.
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For a team that felt queasy about turning a obscure Soviet war hero into a Aryan LARPer they sure love demonizing conservatives by making them vile racists.
Al Coholic said:
Imagine thinking that conservative democracy (Bennett) is the same as Nazism (Hitler), sigh.
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Don't you see? Conservatives are racist and hate gays which means they are Nazis Chud! Drumpf is LITERALLY Hitler! In all seriousness I wonder how much of the team could be diagnosed with what they call Trump Derangement Syndrome.
 
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Senile said:
Huh, seeing this is starting to make me doubt some of the other stuff that has been in this thread
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Stop dumping fake garbage into this thread to support your gayops immediately. Be you TNOer, RU-TNOER, or sperg. Unless you're Deagle Nation, I want to laugh at real shit. That spacing between username and message is fake and that text background is for when someone is specifically @Ed. Plus the all the edited shit of Panzer calling Gindsi a nigger from earlier and now this. All the comprehensive chat leaks, among other things like the github and complaints fourm are legitimate, but this thread has had a problem of exceptional individuals dumping edited single-images here.
 
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I think some people here need a primer in modders:

99% of modders are insane liars.

These are people who see a game millions have played and want to change it to their own image. This brings in naturally nutty people who still manage to create great things, but they're still nuts.

Some people here say things like the Russians are fine...they're not. They're just as insane in different ways and with a language barrier to the average reader.

So yes, please take any screenshots in here with a grain of salt because you're dealing in a world war between different groups of mentally ill schizos who likely believe photoshopping an image means it is reality.

Semi off-topic degeneracy: Unironically, porn modders for games like Skyrim seem to be the most stable and normal individuals socially online. I believe it's because their degeneracy is front and center rather than hidden behind a thin, insecure curtain. I could be wrong and if someone were to prove me wrong, I'd be fine with that, but I've seen way less modder drama in that crowd than others.
 
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GentlemanFaggot said:
Semi off-topic degeneracy: Unironically, porn modders for games like Skyrim seem to be the most stable and normal individuals socially online. I believe it's because their degeneracy is front and center rather than hidden behind a thin, insecure curtain. I could be wrong and if someone were to prove me wrong, I'd be fine with that, but I've seen way less modder drama in that crowd than others.
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Somewhat going off on a tangent here but what’s the appeal of nude/porn mods? Do guys like jerking off in the middle of a game or having an uncomfortable erection the entire time they’re playing ?
 
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EpicGamerMoment said:
Somewhat going off on a tangent here but what’s the appeal of nude/porn mods? Do guys like jerking off in the middle of a game or having an uncomfortable erection the entire time they’re playing ?
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It's porn in the end. Some people play a game and it might kind of provide some fuel for one of their fantasies, so why not make it happen via mods?

Put yourself in the shoes of a furry playing Elder Scrolls and they encounter a Khajiit saying, "Your money or your life," and you can imagine how their imagination might go in a different direction than the average player.

Anyway, that's enough of a tangent. I'll collect all the Islamic content tags now. Legit just wanted to explain the phenomena of it.
 
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Am going through chat leaks but the most recent devs have covered their asses well, just degenerate weeb shit and autistic repeated jokes. Does anyone have anything so that this bullshit 'all the bad team members left !!!1111!' can finally be exposed
 

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Ironywanger Bridage said:
This is the TNO Speer GO4 for the second decade from slackjaw server.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Umuux7Cfd9Vo0YgmcboVwe3sVY4SyjgnsooCu1755A/edit?usp=sharing

Here are my personal highlight.
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I though it will be interesting for people who wants to read it.
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Wait wasn't bohemia completely germanized in tno lore?
 
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Nocerfelius said:
The guy who posted the shooped screenshot is probably a saboteur straight from panzers server or something
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Could be. The moment he said Bennet was supposed to be a Trump analogue in TNO, I raised an eyebrow. Bennet is by far the most boring President and Radical Centrist is too extreme for him. In no way does TNO use him as a Trump analogue.

But keep in mind, I've seen a lot of people here making some very insecure jumps to conclusions, such as Conservative Democracy leaders being portrayed as EVIL RETHUGLICANS by the anarcho-communist transexual modders, when in reality, most of the time they're portrayed fairly charitably considering the modder's political bend.

So we could be dealing with a TNO gayop or a RU-TNO gayop or someone else, who knows.

Rest assured, no matter what their intentions are, they are engaging in pure faggotry, and not Gentlemanly Faggotry like I do.
 
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FreshThrowawayKiwi said:
I highly doubt they're autistic enough to smear one of their own friends just to give us false information. It does seem like the sort of shit Pcola would do, though.
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I wouldn't put it past them to do such a thing. Especially because it isn't necessarily such a risk for their friend.
If such a thing had been posted together with the previous conversations, on Reddit, the Coop, etc., they could have proven that it were a fake. That in turn would have cast doubt on the validity of all other discord conversations and they could have used it to unify the community against a "psyop" by those evil transphobe nazis.
 
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The guy who posted the shooped screenshot is probably a saboteur straight from panzers server or something
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As far I'm aware the TNO team isn't incredibly hostile to Conservatives because they don't seem to witch hunt the few Bennett/Goldwater supporters on the Discord (though the team might be a different case with conservatives being locked in non-writing roles). One of the side effects of having Nazism and (the few if any cases of) non-wanked Communism is that they can't go full "muh republicans" without seeming retarded, so saying that Bennet=Trump is definitely an attempt at a gayop.
Ironywanger Bridage said:
This is the TNO Speer GO4 for the second decade from slackjaw server.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Umuux7Cfd9Vo0YgmcboVwe3sVY4SyjgnsooCu1755A/edit?usp=sharing

Here are my personal highlight.
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I though it will be interesting for people who wants to read it.
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I'm probably in the minority here in that thinking TNO isn't bad (if you ignored the wankleft paths of course) but their work here and on Toolbox Theory's mechanics does seem pretty solid. Speer's Germany and their branches is probably some of their best prose, so I hope they don't go full autist and choose to portray the conservatives as devils or some shit like that.
 
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GentlemanFaggot said:
I think some people here need a primer in modders:

99% of modders are insane liars.

These are people who see a game millions have played and want to change it to their own image. This brings in naturally nutty people who still manage to create great things, but they're still nuts.

Some people here say things like the Russians are fine...they're not. They're just as insane in different ways and with a language barrier to the average reader.

So yes, please take any screenshots in here with a grain of salt because you're dealing in a world war between different groups of mentally ill schizos who likely believe photoshopping an image means it is reality.

Semi off-topic degeneracy: Unironically, porn modders for games like Skyrim seem to be the most stable and normal individuals socially online. I believe it's because their degeneracy is front and center rather than hidden behind a thin, insecure curtain. I could be wrong and if someone were to prove me wrong, I'd be fine with that, but I've seen way less modder drama in that crowd than others.
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I feel like no matter who wins we all lose. TNO OG is for obvious reason, TNO Reddit Redux is the same but slightly less retarded, 4chan redux is allegedly full of /pol/tards. and RU-TNO is just a nesting ground of slavic autism.


No matter who wins. HOI4 modding is fucked @GentlemanFaggot
 
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