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Destiny is supposedly coming out as "non-binary", but his audience can't tell if he's serious or just meming to avoid criticism from the trans community ironically pointing out the issue with identifying as trans.
Destiny tweeting about trans buffs
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I saw that conversation with the "non-binary" dude live last night, and it's amusing to hear Destiny struggle with the toughtcrime that, yes, there are a lot of people choosing to call themselves trans because it's trendy and grants a lot of clout in their social circles. It's especially true with the increasing number of "non-binary" people who are able to easily make that self-declaration without any burden to themselves. Recent case in point with somebody outside of Destiny's particular sphere: I saw Gita Jackson, a hardcore SJW game journalist from VICE (formerly Kotaku), declare herself to be "non-binary" earlier this month:

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This is exactly the sort of person that baffles Destiny. She says she doesn't know what being "non-binary" is supposed to mean, and because she gives warning that she might change her mind, it's apparently a choice to her. She's even still letting people call her "she" for the time being. Just because she now calls herself "non-binary", however, nobody can dare say otherwise or cross her when talking about trans stuff, and you can see in that Twitter thread how much credence she's given just from this declaration. As a black woman, Gita already has a lofty position in the hierarchy of her social circle, but this self-induction into transdom is clearly a promotion. So why wouldn't everyone at least call themselves "non-binary" since it's an upgrade in social status for nothing?

Destiny sees this bullshit going on and remarks in confusion over it, but there's a line he apparently does not cross as he frames his concerns not as his own, but rather in the manner of saying, "Doesn't this just support the argument from TERFs?" Does he not cross the Rubicon because he genuinely has a mental block, or is he fearful of saying too much because of the threat it poses to himself, both socially and in his permission to professionally livestream?
 
I'm assuming this is a joke/commentary on people pretending to be NB to deflect criticism, rather than an actual change in self-identification, but that brings up a whole other issue. Destiny, in doing something that he is apparently aware is absurd, is really only mocking people who agree with him politically. He's doing something to point out the absurdity of "his own side", but without actually considering the notion that maybe he's on the wrong side. I'm not saying that you can't critique people who agree with you politically without completely changing your politics, obviously that's absurd, but for a guy who punches left as much as Destiny it really does drive me crazy that he hasn't stopped to consider if it is his own political views that are the problem, or a significant part of it.

In fact I don't know if Destiny has ever seriously grappled with right-wing critiques of liberalism. I've seen him engage with socialist critiques of capitalism, but I don't think he actually respects any right-wing thinkers. It really does seem like he doesn't even think that there could be serious implications of his own liberal views.
 
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I'm assuming this is a joke/commentary on people pretending to be NB to deflect criticism, rather than an actual change in self-identification, but that brings up a whole other issue. Destiny, in doing something that he is apparently aware is absurd, is really only mocking people who agree with him politically. He's doing something to point out the absurdity of "his own side", but without actually considering the notion that maybe he's on the wrong side. I'm not saying that you can't critique people who agree with you politically without completely changing your politics, obviously that's absurd, but for a guy who punches left as much as Destiny it really does drive me crazy that he hasn't stopped to consider if it is his own political views are the problem, or a significant part of it.
In fact I don't know if Destiny has ever seriously grappled with right-wing critiques of liberalism. I've seen him engage with socialist critiques of capitalism, but I don't think he actually respects any right-wing thinkers. It really does seem like he doesn't even think that there could be serious implications of his own liberal views.
I’ve seen him say that the decline of religion and churches is bad because of the impact on the community and society but that’s the only thing that comes to mine. He’ll always immediately follow with that he hates religion but there should be something to fill the role churches used to.
 
So then he ought to be pleased that social justice is the new religion, yes?

I think it's pretty obvious that Destiny's "coming out" is a critical joke given the manner and context in which he makes the declaration both in his chat and on stream. I've seen comments comparing it to the old "attack helicopter" meme, but better crafted to expose logical conflict within its target of criticism. It is remarkable, however, that his community is having a heated argument over whether he's serious even when they know he's in the midst of expressing great concern over people choosing to call themselves trans for social advantage. It looks like the people who are falling for his joke may be winning out too, greater in number in his community and able to dismiss the opposing argument as transphobia. This goes to show how easy it is for Destiny (or anyone else) to fake being trans as everyone would've bought into his "non-binary" declaration without question if he had said it apropo of nothing.

On a related note, I wonder what Destiny's remarks are on child trannies and the grooming and peer pressure that goes on with them. It seems that the arguments he gets wrapped up in are mainly to do with adult trannies.
 
Destiny needs to do a lot more than just go NB.

He needs to throw in Autism, Greater Bisexuality, Greater Polyamory, Lesser Polysexuality, Lesser Speech Impediment, Greater Person Of Colorhood, ect.

I think you need a long rest before you can cast all those. And some of them require rituals and different components. On the other hand, autism is probably just a cantrip.
 
I'm assuming this is a joke/commentary on people pretending to be NB to deflect criticism, rather than an actual change in self-identification, but that brings up a whole other issue. Destiny, in doing something that he is apparently aware is absurd, is really only mocking people who agree with him politically. He's doing something to point out the absurdity of "his own side", but without actually considering the notion that maybe he's on the wrong side. I'm not saying that you can't critique people who agree with you politically without completely changing your politics, obviously that's absurd, but for a guy who punches left as much as Destiny it really does drive me crazy that he hasn't stopped to consider if it is his own political views are the problem, or a significant part of it.

In fact I don't know if Destiny has ever seriously grappled with right-wing critiques of liberalism. I've seen him engage with socialist critiques of capitalism, but I don't think he actually respects any right-wing thinkers. It really does seem like he doesn't even think that there could be serious implications of his own liberal views.
I've always pegged him as a knowing bootlicker when it comes to politics. He doesn't actually care about most issues. He does care about "winning" "debates".

And his way of winning is generally affirming status quo.

I remember watching a stream of his where a caller suggested he read a book or two sometime to develop more informed opinions and you could tell destiny didn't want to, but also that he knew it was kinda bad not to do so.
 
I've always pegged him as a knowing bootlicker when it comes to politics. He doesn't actually care about most issues. He does care about "winning" "debates".

And his way of winning is generally affirming status quo.

I remember watching a stream of his where a caller suggested he read a book or two sometime to develop more informed opinions and you could tell destiny didn't want to, but also that he knew it was kinda bad not to do so.
It would be hilarious if Destiny debated Devon Stack. It would have to be at 3 am EST since Devon lives in the desert. It would be similar to Ryan Dawson destroying Destiny
 
Is that the kangaroo fursona guy? He honestly seems even dumber than destiny
No, Devon Stack goes by Black Pilled on youtube. He has a pretty good analysis on the propaganda of Falling Down.


The fursona dude you refer I think is Atheism is Unstoppable. Which as you say, probably is dumber than Destiny.
 
No, Devon Stack goes by Black Pilled on youtube. He has a pretty good analysis on the propaganda of Falling Down.


The fursona dude you refer I think is Atheism is Unstoppable. Which as you say, probably is dumber than Destiny.
actually i think i know this guy and if he's who i'm thinking of he might do even worse than striker in a debate. Was he in some three way call with Owen Benjamin (or maybe fuentes) and Red Elephant seething over Destiny? I just remember he seemed more of a sperg than sperg supreme destiny in that call, he was so mad. Would be entertaining to watch though.
 
actually i think i know this guy and if he's who i'm thinking of he might do even worse than striker in a debate. Was he in some three way call with Owen Benjamin (or maybe fuentes) and Red Elephant seething over Destiny? I just remember he seemed more of a sperg than sperg supreme destiny in that call, he was so mad. Would be entertaining to watch though.
He did one or two calls with Owen but I haven’t seen them. He wrote a short novel called Day of the Rope which is pretty good
 
I love it when left-wingers tacitly admit that JF is actually somewhat intelligent.
JF's biggest problem has never been his intelligence (Though JF will certainly hype up his own intelligence) its his utterly odious and narcissistic personality. That and the potato-fucking.

Man you know the worlds in a shitty place when you feel like we've stepped DOWN from JF...
 
I'm assuming this is a joke/commentary on people pretending to be NB to deflect criticism, rather than an actual change in self-identification,
This is what it is, and anyone taking it seriously needs to take a week off the forum.
In fact I don't know if Destiny has ever seriously grappled with right-wing critiques of liberalism. I've seen him engage with socialist critiques of capitalism, but I don't think he actually respects any right-wing thinkers. It really does seem like he doesn't even think that there could be serious implications of his own liberal views.
As a true Neoliberal, his entire existence is trying to maintain the status quo while running soft revolutions as frequently as possible. He seems to have only debated the Right on racial and cultural issues, where he can always just fall back on pretending to be confused about what White people even are or if they exist. Economics is much more difficult and it actually would be interesting to see people grapple more with someone like Mosley or Gentile, but that doesn't lead to superchat slapfights. Only autists like me enjoy that shit and I can understand why it would all be too dry for most audiences.
 
Huge write up over a student article that probably got 5 views https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/lx0dnw/incredibly_disappointed_at_the_lack_of/

Mayor candidate hes working with disavows destiny and ends their cooperation, more context in comments https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/lx1j91/mark_is_severing_ties_with_olm/

More context from chat:

Destiny: I think Mark's suspending his campaign

Destiny: he's getting threats and shit to his family, he says that the stress etc...is destroying him

Destiny: it's not far lefties, it's idpol obsessed white people atm

Destiny: Fraye no, it's people obsessed with supporting "black women"

Destiny: he might go forward and just cut ties with us maybe we'll see

Destiny: we don't know if mark is suspending his campaign yet

Destiny: not sure if he's dropping or not

Destiny: also Mark is chill he's just doing what needs to do to protect his campaign


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Sargoned lmao what did he expect. If this doesn't push destiny further right on idpol i dont know if anything will
 
Congrats Destiny. Never forget these are the people you spent 4 whole years defending, enabling, and pretending they didn't exist. You have become absolutely too toxic to work with or do anything seriously politically for the left wing. Watch as this fucking commie Mike from PA utterly dabs on you, and the funny thing is that thanks to his connections with Hasan, the guy is probably gonna end up being more successful politically and in streaming than you. You have only yourself to blame.

 
LMAO. Destiny, this is what you get for working with these people.

Honestly surprised it took this long for something like this to happen. These people are ticking timebombs, it was only a matter of time before they would distance themselves from Destiny. They can't handle the edgy banter that Destiny engages in, but while it might be easy to blame them, the only blame in this situation lies with Destiny for not realizing that these people's thin skin is a fucking problem.

Also, I can't help but feel a bit vindicated for this take:
Destiny is chasing the dragon of a left that simply doesn't exist. It isn't the late 2000s anymore. The "edgy neoliberal who hates neocons and loves guns, sex, and weed" is a dead archetype. These people want full devotion to IdPol, whether you are a neoliberal or a progressive. What about all those Union Dems though? They hate neoliberals just as much as the progressives. You either reject capitalism to hang with the Union Dems, or embrace radical IdPol so you can continue being an acceptable neolib. You don't get to have it both ways.

Destiny, disengage from these people. They don't deserve you, and you don't need them. You'd be better suited in the fucking libertarian party at this point. Continuing to partake in this shitshow is going to be nothing but an Sisyphean uphill struggle, not worth yours, or anyone's time.
 
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