Culture The misogynist incel movement is spreading. Should it be classified as a terror threat? - Incels rise up?


As attacks linked to the misogynist “incel” movement mounted in recent years, authorities around the world have begun to treat the ideology as a more serious terrorism threat.
Since 2014, men who call themselves “involuntary celibates” and blame women for their own lack of sexual and social status have carried out mass killings in California, Florida, and Toronto.
On Wednesday, a judge in Canada delivered a guilty verdict for the perpetrator of the 2018 Toronto van attack, which left 10 people dead and 16 injured – the deadliest incident linked to the incel movement.

In her verdict, the judge found that the attacker’s resentment towards women was one among several motivating factors, but experts warn that such incidents are becoming more frequent, and that the ideology behind them is spreading internationally.

2020 saw a string of incel-related incidents, including a machete attack at a Toronto massage parlor, a shooting at an Arizona mall which injured three people, a man who blew up his own hand with explosives in Virginia, and a New York man charged by federal prosecutors for targeting a couple with violent threats.
While only one of those attacks was fatal, “the fact those incidents weren’t worse is more luck than good counterterrorism,” said Jacob Ware, a terrorism researcher who studies the incel movement. “2020 was a bad year for incel violence.”

There are also signs the ideology is spreading beyond North America: in the UK, at least two recent terror trials included discussion of incel ideas as a motivation.
And as incel-related attacks have multiplied, the ideology has begun to get more attention from both law enforcement and counterterrorism researchers, sparking debate over whether it is useful to classify this kind of ideological violence against women as terrorism.

Last spring, Canada announced terrorism charges against a 17-year-old Toronto resident for the murder of 24-year-old Ashley Noelle Arzaga at a massage parlor, an attack law enforcement said was motivated by incel extremism. It was the first time Canada had charged anyone with incel-related terrorism.
Incel-related violence “seems to be increasing,” said Alex DiBranco, the executive director of the Institute for Research on Male Supremacism, and one of the authors of a recent report on misogynist violence. And, despite growing attention, “It’s still not being taken as seriously as it needs to be.”

Measuring the toll

By some counts, incel-related attacks in the United States and Canada have claimed as many as 40 to 50 lives, DiBranco and Ware said. But that statistic includes the toll of several large school shootings – including a 2015 shooting at a college in Roseburg, Oregon and a 2018 high school shooting in Parkland, Florida – in which the perpetrators made some mention of incel ideology alongside other grievances.
The number of casualties in the attacks most clearly motivated by incel ideology is smaller, and starts with the 2014 Isla Vista attack at the University of California, Santa Barbara, in which a 22-year-old killed six people and injured 14 others.
The Isla Vista perpetrator has been cited as a direct inspiration by other attackers, including the 28-year-old Canadian man convicted on Wednesday who posted about an “incel rebellion” on Facebook shortly before plowing his rental van into pedestrians on a Toronto street.

There are other attacks that predate the growth of the online incel movement, but that fit a similar pattern of anger towards women, including a 2009 attack on a fitness center in Pennsylvania, and the mass shooting of 14 female engineering students in Montreal in 1989 by a man who wrote of his rage against feminism.

So far, incel-related violence has not become a terror threat in the United States on the same scale as other violent ideologies, according to an analysis of domestic terror attacks by the New America Foundation.
Since 9/11, far rightwing attacks killed 114 people, and jihadist attacks had killed 107 people, while only nine people had been killed in American misogynist and incel attacks, the New America Foundation analysis found.
This count includes a July 2020 attack, in which an anti-feminist lawyer opened fire at the home of a female federal judge in New Jersey, leaving her son dead, an attack experts said was linked to misogyny, but not the incel movement specifically.
But incel terrorism in the United States has been much deadlier than far-left terrorism, which receives intense political and media attention in the US, the New America analysis found. Its data lists only a single person killed in a far-left attack in the US since 9/11.

What response is right?

Some experts are skeptical of the value of approaching the incel movement through a counterterrorism lens, rather than as a public health problem, said Ware adding that some see a risk in making the movement “look like a bigger deal than it is”.
“Incels display very high levels of mental health issues. They display high levels of a history of bullying. This is a movement that is desperately sad,” he said.
At the same time, he said, “Incel violence is ideological violence against civilians, to prove an ideological point or create psychological fear. That makes it terrorism.”

The Isla Vista shooter made clear in his manifesto that he wanted to make women afraid, said DiBranco.
“Though misogynist incels are often perceived as a movement without political aims, violent perpetrators have the same type of far-reaching aims that white nationalists have: to completely change the culture and politics of society to favor their own group,” she and her co-authors wrote in a February report.
“This is an ideology. It’s not a psychological disorder,” she said. “There’s a lot of undue sympathy.”
 
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Any man is capable of achieving sex if he wants it. Those who would prefer to be a bunch of whiney faggots are men unworthy of sex. They haven't earned it.
 
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a lot of these women are willing to give head to get what they want
why don't they offer the same to guys to make them not terrorists?
I've seen incels advocate for the government funding a program to pay hookers to have sex with men who can't get laid.
I wouldn't have a problem with it, they already spend millions on useless or outright harmful projects already.
 
By some counts, incel-related attacks in the United States and Canada have claimed as many as 40 to 50 lives, including a 2015 shooting

”The Guardian” said:

At least 25 Americans were killed during protests and political unrest in 2020​


Get back to me when BLM is declared a terrorist movement, and then we can start on the incels.

and after that, furries.
 
As we abandon monogamy, of course you're going to see an increase in number of perpetual single men.

It's one of the problems that polygamous nations have had to deal with, particularly if you look at muslim nations for example. They dealt with it by giving them ships or weapons to go raid and attack neighbouring countries. That's why raids to take sex slaves (among other things) was common in the period of barbary pirates, though of course also because they could just be sold as an extra wife.

I also don't think it's strange that if you have a growing group of men who are not part of society, that they're going to band together and try to stir up trouble. Or rather, that people look at that group as a vulnerable group to disperse their own brand of propaganda to. Theyre as vulnerable to go toward a tranny road, internet commie road or internet fascist road. Though of course, media only talks about the last one and tacitly supports the other two.

“Though misogynist incels are often perceived as a movement without political aims, violent perpetrators have the same type of far-reaching aims that white nationalists have: to completely change the culture and politics of society to favor their own group,” she and her co-authors wrote in a February report.

I think she just described every cultural movement. Much brave. wow
 
As we abandon monogamy, of course you're going to see an increase in number of perpetual single men.

It's one of the problems that polygamous nations have had to deal with, particularly if you look at muslim nations for example. They dealt with it by giving them ships or weapons to go raid and attack neighbouring countries. That's why raids to take sex slaves (among other things) was common in the period of barbary pirates, though of course also because they could just be sold as an extra wife.

I also don't think it's strange that if you have a growing group of men who are not part of society, that they're going to band together and try to stir up trouble. Or rather, that people look at that group as a vulnerable group to disperse their own brand of propaganda to. Theyre as vulnerable to go toward a tranny road, internet commie road or internet fascist road. Though of course, media only talks about the last one and tacitly supports the other two.



I think she just described every cultural movement. Much brave. wow
Not to mention many wives ends up causing genetic dead ends and a population with a shallow gene pool
 
Wait jest a goshdurn minuto

Are you telling me that when you go to the massage parlor as a 17 year old incel and find out the one white femoid working there wont give you a happy ending and laughs at your micropeen, murdering the femoid isnt appropriaterino?
 
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