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[Grass4Cats]

Did they use First Sora model for Roberu? Because his big hands reminds of First Sora

At least he's having fun.

Oh god I can't unsee him standing on a can of tuna, Holostars brand

 

[TiredCatto]

Did they use First Sora model for Roberu? Because his big hands reminds of First Sora

At least he's having fun.

i was thinking something like that.. like "man did cover not setting up 3D model anatomy for male?" then i checking Rikka 3D debut, he have better model, a year ago

Problem is that the man-behind-curtain is more broad shouldered and a decent bit shorter than the model it seems. Instead of sacrificing his height, they decided to wing it with the clipping. Should have gone with the former.

really? checking his roomate back then in jp web, he look average man i guess. his head also look smaller as well lmao

 

[animeclungeiscool]

Problem is that the man-behind-curtain is more broad shouldered and a decent bit shorter than the model it seems. Instead of sacrificing his height, they decided to wing it with the clipping. Should have gone with the former. . . though it would have been funny if there is ever a collab where he was dwarfed by one of the girls.
Edit:
Man leaves his own 3d debut for a piss break. Respect.

Given how he's resting his hands, I think they just fucked up the arm/shoulder rigging. Looks like he's trying to rest his hand on his hip, but it's on his lower ass on the model.

 

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really? checking his roomate back then in jp web, he look average man i guess. his head also look smaller as well lmao

Looks like he's trying to rest his hand on his hip, but it's on his lower ass on the model.

Again, I think they enlongated the model overall; that would cause the same issue as his waistline would be lower than that of the model creating that imagery. That it is behind him probably comes from the hand tracking; his hand would be more flat against his waist and not in line with the forearm like that.

So, his official height is 181cm, and for us Americans that is a little bit over 5'9". . . which is average American height. Japanese male average is about 171cm or 5'7". That height difference looks about right for the difference in the shoulder clipping.

Edit: This height talk also puts into perspective the fact I would tower over these people, and it would look utterly ridiculous on screen. Going to be interesting if a 3d ENStar ever happens and he's 6'3".

 

[Blatant hypocrite]

Is this why he announced it like it was a sad and tragic event? Because he knew it would be?

 

[Diya]

(Height talk)

I always wonder how they manage to make Kson 151 cm work with Coco 180 cm and never feel out of place or janky. I notice she never touch other member directly during 3D though. Maybe the body proportion is right, and they just have to increase the scale?

 

[Groundpounder]

its nobody false, roberu art style is bishounen with yaoi hand and long torso and wide shoulder also smaller head, its harder to mocap it raw (just put a suit and call it a day). they need to sacrifice either a. contain body proportion but the move gonna look extremely floatty and janky ( see kuzuha 3d) OR they sacrifice and resize the look for more accurate movement.

anime man body proportion is far more hard to track cause they have more longer torso and leg and wider shoulder which is hard to match then a woman, if you see it closely every female model look more realistic to japanese woman ( short and petite body slim leg {boob dont matter cause they just stick in front} and animeish big head{which also dont matter}) so yeah

notes: if you wonder why polka cant keep her arm close on her side of the body,thats because the room mate is wider.

 

[Grass4Cats]

Overall, despite the funny scuffed model, it is entertaining once you aren't prone to laugh histerically.

10/10 Son is Winning like always

 

[aldoragezz]

its nobody false, roberu art style is bishounen with yaoi hand and long torso and wide shoulder also smaller head

pic for reference

 

[Deluxe]

it looks like shit because the rigging is shit and bugged, not because of the performer. debiru is not actually a flying midget suspended by strings yet the model works because that is what rigging is supposed to do.

that's all there is to it.

 

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The CCP Insects are in the chat already.
. . . and FBK just enabled Members Only Mode.

 

[ChuubaVital]

Overall, despite the funny scuffed model, it is entertaining once you aren't prone to laugh hysterically.

10/10 Son is Winning like always

It seemed like he was having a good time, and that's all that really matters in the end. YAGOO bless our son.
Also, the superchat amount was pretty good today too, more than double the announcement stream. And peaking at 15k viewers from what I noticed.

Also, Gibara's 2 year anniversary stream is live, I wonder if she's gonna say anything more about retirement near the end...

notes: if you wonder why polka cant keep her arm close on her side of the body, that's because the room mate is wider.

Please no bully my plump clown.

EDIT:
https://twitter.com/OtogibaraEra/status/1369638130714767361?s=20

Spoiler: Rough DeepL translation

As I mentioned in the previous message, I, Eira Mihara, will be graduating from Niji Sanji as of today.
It's been a very meaningful two years for me, and it's made me think about a lot of things.
I think it was a very meaningful time. I would like to thank everyone who has supported me even for a moment.
I have been saved a lot by your words. I hope to have a chance to meet you all again.

 

[Green Oil]

Uto having superchat reading stream right now but before that she goes to dentist and still under anesthesia so her talk kinda like under drugs or drunk lmao.

Edit : Roberu 3D rigging in here looks more better, it could be like what you guys said they sacrifice something on rigging and it make looks so bad.

https://twitter.com/pufeyarou/status/1369617513328246787?s=20

Edit : Pekora just use Kanata Photo as Kanata Wanted Poster cuz spy thing. Don't take seriously.

 

[The One And Only SALTE]

I haven't seen the full vod yet but going through stuff, the only real bad thing i noticed was them fucking up Roberu's arms and and hands. He doesn't seem to mind and hopefully it'll be fixed.

Meanwhile Ollie just screenshots him Jojo posing.

 

[Islamic Heisenberg]

the mouth flapping is straight up kingdom hearts 1/2 level cutscene

 

[Groundpounder]

debiru is not actually a flying midget suspended by strings yet the model works because that is what rigging is supposed to do.

that's all there is to it.

but thats not how it work. shape of the model doesnt matter in mocap , the proportion is. if you see debi, the body size actually more proportional to normal girl then roberu ( just imagine girl in mascot suit) the elbow and knee position is not far out of place, while roberu isnt . its like try to mocap fictional character like thanos , to make it stay proportional and have accurate movement ,its need some post production edit which is impossible in live.

if they want to make it work i think they need to re-scale some limb , its not gonna be 1:1 accurate to the artstyle anymore but atleast its not gonna look to janky.

 

[The Real SVP]

I could try to summarize the experience,

You don't have to, somebody already made a spot on and concise summary of the vtuber experience:

 

[Valstrax]

You don't have to, somebody already made a spot on and concise summary of the vtuber experience:

God, we don't deserve Sakura Miko.

 

[Screw Danlon]

pic for reference
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I’ve seen horror manga with less freaky hands.

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

I smell an elite collab in the future