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When was the last time RvB was good?

  • Before RWBY

    Votes: 61 62.9%
  • Season 10

    Votes: 22 22.7%
  • Season 11

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Season 12

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Season 13

    Votes: 10 10.3%
  • Season 14

    Votes: 2 2.1%
  • Before RvB Zero

    Votes: 1 1.0%

  • Total voters
    97
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You know I was expecting some sort of sanctimonious little speech about gun violence or something but it was somehow worse than that. Just a listless "OMG can we like, move on guys?" like she was just so bored of it all.
What a cunt.

Also speaking of podcasts apparently this is how they will be recording off topic now
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Are there any first members here that watched it live?
Also Michael needs to cut his hair because it makes him look like an ugly lesbian
Who are the two fat lesbians in the middle?
 
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Are there any first members here that watched it live?
Also Michael needs to cut his hair because it makes him look like an ugly lesbian

God damn, that looks fucking stupid.

Personally, I think they're dumbasses for going back to in-person so quickly anyway; there's a non-zero chance this is a Warner Media-level mandate, but I also think that the major cast members like Michael could have threatened to walk if they really cared about the pandemic. It's very unlikely that Warner would play chicken with them after already losing two of their major content creators last year, so clearly no one even bothered trying to do that. It's a goofy look given how vocal they've been about their opposition to reopening Texas (which isn't necessarily a lie on their part, but it clearly doesn't matter all that much to them, either). That said, this looks stupid as fuck, and there are so many ways they could've done this in a safer and less dumb-looking way.

Again, though, the much simpler solution would've been to just fucking stay at home if they were so concerned about everyone's safety. This very much raises the question of how RT is taking precautions for their camera crew; if the on-camera "social distancing" is this fucking lackluster, what's going on with the off-camera crew members that the audience CAN'T see?
 
God damn, that looks fucking stupid.

Personally, I think they're dumbasses for going back to in-person so quickly anyway; there's a non-zero chance this is a Warner Media-level mandate, but I also think that the major cast members like Michael could have threatened to walk if they really cared about the pandemic. It's very unlikely that Warner would play chicken with them after already losing two of their major content creators last year, so clearly no one even bothered trying to do that. It's a goofy look given how vocal they've been about their opposition to reopening Texas (which isn't necessarily a lie on their part, but it clearly doesn't matter all that much to them, either). That said, this looks stupid as fuck, and there are so many ways they could've done this in a safer and less dumb-looking way.

Again, though, the much simpler solution would've been to just fucking stay at home if they were so concerned about everyone's safety. This very much raises the question of how RT is taking precautions for their camera crew; if the on-camera "social distancing" is this fucking lackluster, what's going on with the off-camera crew members that the audience CAN'T see?
I'd be surprised if WM gave a shit about RT's podcasts. I mean, hasn't it been said that the only real thing RT brings to the table is RWBY?
 
I'd be surprised if WM gave a shit about RT's podcasts. I mean, hasn't it been said that the only real thing RT brings to the table is RWBY?

Yes, RWBY is their primary source of profit at this point, but ANY source of income can and will be milked by a corporation like that.

As we've already discussed, their viewership has taken a noticeable hit as the work-from-home sapped all the chemistry from the remaining RT cast members, and of course, the big scandal definitely didn't help. If us randos have figured that out, I can almost guarantee that Warner figured it out, too. So why would they pay people to work from home when all their pre-WFH videos saw a much bigger return, and now they're suddenly in the legal clear to have people come into work instead? From a business perspective, that would be stupid.

That said, Off-Topic is probably one of two RT podcasts that actually brings in any notable income (the other one being, well, the RT podcast), so I can imagine there was a big push to get people back in for that one. I don't watch RT podcasts often so correct me if I'm wrong, but the fact that they only managed to get one regular, MAYBE two if Alfredo is around more often than I think, makes me believe that the decision wasn't a super popular one. So based on that, I'm inclined to believe that whoever made the decision to go back to in-person was probably someone from the corporation and/or an executive.
 
Yes, RWBY is their primary source of profit at this point, but ANY source of income can and will be milked by a corporation like that.

As we've already discussed, their viewership has taken a noticeable hit as the work-from-home sapped all the chemistry from the remaining RT cast members, and of course, the big scandal definitely didn't help. If us randos have figured that out, I can almost guarantee that Warner figured it out, too. So why would they pay people to work from home when all their pre-WFH videos saw a much bigger return, and now they're suddenly in the legal clear to have people come into work instead? From a business perspective, that would be stupid.

That said, Off-Topic is probably one of two RT podcasts that actually brings in any notable income (the other one being, well, the RT podcast), so I can imagine there was a big push to get people back in for that one. I don't watch RT podcasts often so correct me if I'm wrong, but the fact that they only managed to get one regular, MAYBE two if Alfredo is around more often than I think, makes me believe that the decision wasn't a super popular one. So based on that, I'm inclined to believe that whoever made the decision to go back to in-person was probably someone from the corporation and/or an executive.
I can see that. So, would you say that RT could be better off with fat being trimmed? What’d you keep?
 
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They're deep into the spectrum on that. Meanwhile in New York, The Yak at Barstool had like 12 people in their little studio today yelling at each other, no masks, no spacing, no fucks.
 
I can see that. So, would you say that RT could be better off with fat being trimmed? What’d you keep?

Well, I'm not going to pretend I know anything about business or what's profitable; these are just my observations as a former long-time RT fan. That said, I definitely think RT could benefit from trimming the fat and focusing in on a smaller handful of shows in order to produce better quality content, instead of spraying it everywhere and succeeding at nothing.

Most likely, I'd get rid of most of their animated series, as the majority of them are mediocre and/or have low viewership; X-Ray and Vav would be an exception, as it was quite aggressively mediocre, but also very popular. I'd also keep RWBY and RTAA for the profit margins, and RVB because killing it would cause the loss of most pre-2014 fans (as we're currently seeing in action). All other animated shows would require review to see if they're even worth keeping around, but I might be a little less quick to the draw with AH Animated, since it occupies a niche similar to RTAAs in the form of distilled videos set to Flash animation, which is pretty popular with most people.

Similarly, I'd gut most of the podcasts; some of them are dead on arrival due to lack of co-stars (i.e. any podcasts that featured Ryan or Adam primarily), while others are superfluous or just unpopular. I would keep the RT Podcast, Off-Topic, the Funhaus Podcast for any transplant fans, and MAYBE Always Open if it had enough viewership (but from the impression I get of it, that's not the case). The Patch is another unique case where, even though it was a bit superfluous, I actually think having a strictly gaming podcast was a good anchor for the subset of RT fans who came for games only; that's something they'd always find interesting to watch, regardless of its actual content. So I'd probably rebrand The Patch and/or pick a different co-star (someone like Geoff or Michael probably), but otherwise keep the format the same.

As for the other billion miscellaneous shows, I'd probably reduce it down to just the most notable ones - On the Spot and Million Dollars would have to stay, even though I hate them, and definitely Immersion, too. RT Shorts are something of a relic of the past, but old fans would flip out if they were stopped altogether, so I'd keep them as well. Conversely, the RT Life/RT Recap/"behind the scenes" videos feel a bit hokey nowadays, but I think younger fans like them, so I'd keep pretty much all of them. All the other ones that I can't even be assed to know the name of would have to be reviewed and probably removed.

As for AH, I actually think they did a pretty good job keeping their content strictly centered on gaming, so that would be another case of having to just look at the numbers and see what's the most popular and what's lagging behind. AH is probably RT's most consistent group in terms of bringing in profits, so I wouldn't bring down the hammer too hard on them, but they could certainly stand to cut out some of their less popular series that they keep pushing for whatever reason.
 
I don't watch RT podcasts often so correct me if I'm wrong, but the fact that they only managed to get one regular, MAYBE two if Alfredo is around more often than I think
Unless things have changed since I stopped watching Off Topic Trevor and Alfredo became pretty regular cast members a while ago. Part of why I stopped watching it to be honest

He always struck me as the most sane of the group.
He has (usually) seemed to be one of the more sane ones to me as well, despite being a loud-mouthed jersey asshole. I think a part of that has to do with him having a life before rooster teeth. He worked as an electrician for nearly 5 years and I believe he has said that he was set to take over the business when his boss eventually retired. As for the pronouns I honestly think it might be just a virtue signal type of thing, or maybe he let Lindsay talk him into it. Or maybe he actually is in the beginning stages of his troon out I don't fucking know

RT Shorts are something of a relic of the past, but old fans would flip out if they were stopped altogether, so I'd keep them as well
You know RT has had so many different shows that it made me completely forget about RT shorts. In my opinion the early RT shorts are some of their best content. I haven't seen their recent shorts but without a doubt they are pretty bad
 
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Well, I'm not going to pretend I know anything about business or what's profitable; these are just my observations as a former long-time RT fan. That said, I definitely think RT could benefit from trimming the fat and focusing in on a smaller handful of shows in order to produce better quality content, instead of spraying it everywhere and succeeding at nothing.

Most likely, I'd get rid of most of their animated series, as the majority of them are mediocre and/or have low viewership; X-Ray and Vav would be an exception, as it was quite aggressively mediocre, but also very popular. I'd also keep RWBY and RTAA for the profit margins, and RVB because killing it would cause the loss of most pre-2014 fans (as we're currently seeing in action). All other animated shows would require review to see if they're even worth keeping around, but I might be a little less quick to the draw with AH Animated, since it occupies a niche similar to RTAAs in the form of distilled videos set to Flash animation, which is pretty popular with most people.

Similarly, I'd gut most of the podcasts; some of them are dead on arrival due to lack of co-stars (i.e. any podcasts that featured Ryan or Adam primarily), while others are superfluous or just unpopular. I would keep the RT Podcast, Off-Topic, the Funhaus Podcast for any transplant fans, and MAYBE Always Open if it had enough viewership (but from the impression I get of it, that's not the case). The Patch is another unique case where, even though it was a bit superfluous, I actually think having a strictly gaming podcast was a good anchor for the subset of RT fans who came for games only; that's something they'd always find interesting to watch, regardless of its actual content. So I'd probably rebrand The Patch and/or pick a different co-star (someone like Geoff or Michael probably), but otherwise keep the format the same.

As for the other billion miscellaneous shows, I'd probably reduce it down to just the most notable ones - On the Spot and Million Dollars would have to stay, even though I hate them, and definitely Immersion, too. RT Shorts are something of a relic of the past, but old fans would flip out if they were stopped altogether, so I'd keep them as well. Conversely, the RT Life/RT Recap/"behind the scenes" videos feel a bit hokey nowadays, but I think younger fans like them, so I'd keep pretty much all of them. All the other ones that I can't even be assed to know the name of would have to be reviewed and probably removed.

As for AH, I actually think they did a pretty good job keeping their content strictly centered on gaming, so that would be another case of having to just look at the numbers and see what's the most popular and what's lagging behind. AH is probably RT's most consistent group in terms of bringing in profits, so I wouldn't bring down the hammer too hard on them, but they could certainly stand to cut out some of their less popular series that they keep pushing for whatever reason.
So what you're saying is you wouldn't get rid of much of anything?
 
Well, I'm not going to pretend I know anything about business or what's profitable; these are just my observations as a former long-time RT fan. That said, I definitely think RT could benefit from trimming the fat and focusing in on a smaller handful of shows in order to produce better quality content, instead of spraying it everywhere and succeeding at nothing
They should get rid of RT Core (as a group), finally kill Funhaus, then get the animation department to focus on RWBY. Leave the Rooster Teeth OGs that are left, though.

I’m not sure how to fix AH, though. They were shit at games in 2012 when I started watching, but maybe Ray’s skill offset the shortcomings of the group. Most of the people on AH also film for other departments, which might hurt the quality of AH let’s plays due to the dedication it takes to get decent at any game. Maybe they need more funny people, idk. Seems like the OGs are all acting as old as they actually are.
 
I’m not sure how to fix AH, though. They were shit at games in 2012 when I started watching, but maybe Ray’s skill offset the shortcomings of the group. Most of the people on AH also film for other departments, which might hurt the quality of AH let’s plays due to the dedication it takes to get decent at any game. Maybe they need more funny people, idk. Seems like the OGs are all acting as old as they actually are.
From what I've heard, they mostly stick to Minecraft and GTA V (or at least Minecraft): Something where you can just screw around for as long as you want with no consequences, along with anything trending you could find on Twitch. To them, it's not a matter of good, but good enough to ride the wave of popularity to get views before going back to their ol' reliable.
 
I’m not sure how to fix AH, though. They were shit at games in 2012 when I started watching, but maybe Ray’s skill offset the shortcomings of the group. Most of the people on AH also film for other departments, which might hurt the quality of AH let’s plays due to the dedication it takes to get decent at any game. Maybe they need more funny people, idk. Seems like the OGs are all acting as old as they actually are.

AH is a difficult case because their success was so rooted in the original 6 person group that it's pretty much impossible to replicate it. They just had great synergy and charisma - and even in Jack's case, his lack of charisma made him a good contrast to the other guys. I know Ryan joined later in the game, but I'd argue he became indispensable pretty quickly, even though he was kind of barely-there in the beginning. In either case, the OGs - as you said - are too old to keep up the energy they once had, but getting rid of most or even all of them would be met with swift backlash, too.

Obviously there's no chance of this now, but I honestly think Etika would've been a great addition in conjunction with Fiona, since the only time I remember ever finding her funny was in a conversation she had with Etika; they probably had a really good rapport. Getting the two of them together, assuming he could have handled the workload mentally, would have probably improved things quite a bit.

As for them being shit at games, that's not necessarily a bad thing as it can be very entertaining, but it definitely gets annoying when there's just one person doing all the work while everyone else fucks around. In fact, that's definitely part of why Ray quit. So the answer might just be that AH is beyond saving apart from overhauling the entire group and starting from scratch, and that would be a huge risk.
 
Well, I'm not going to pretend I know anything about business or what's profitable; these are just my observations as a former long-time RT fan. That said, I definitely think RT could benefit from trimming the fat and focusing in on a smaller handful of shows in order to produce better quality content, instead of spraying it everywhere and succeeding at nothing.

Most likely, I'd get rid of most of their animated series, as the majority of them are mediocre and/or have low viewership; X-Ray and Vav would be an exception, as it was quite aggressively mediocre, but also very popular. I'd also keep RWBY and RTAA for the profit margins, and RVB because killing it would cause the loss of most pre-2014 fans (as we're currently seeing in action). All other animated shows would require review to see if they're even worth keeping around, but I might be a little less quick to the draw with AH Animated, since it occupies a niche similar to RTAAs in the form of distilled videos set to Flash animation, which is pretty popular with most people.

Similarly, I'd gut most of the podcasts; some of them are dead on arrival due to lack of co-stars (i.e. any podcasts that featured Ryan or Adam primarily), while others are superfluous or just unpopular. I would keep the RT Podcast, Off-Topic, the Funhaus Podcast for any transplant fans, and MAYBE Always Open if it had enough viewership (but from the impression I get of it, that's not the case). The Patch is another unique case where, even though it was a bit superfluous, I actually think having a strictly gaming podcast was a good anchor for the subset of RT fans who came for games only; that's something they'd always find interesting to watch, regardless of its actual content. So I'd probably rebrand The Patch and/or pick a different co-star (someone like Geoff or Michael probably), but otherwise keep the format the same.

As for the other billion miscellaneous shows, I'd probably reduce it down to just the most notable ones - On the Spot and Million Dollars would have to stay, even though I hate them, and definitely Immersion, too. RT Shorts are something of a relic of the past, but old fans would flip out if they were stopped altogether, so I'd keep them as well. Conversely, the RT Life/RT Recap/"behind the scenes" videos feel a bit hokey nowadays, but I think younger fans like them, so I'd keep pretty much all of them. All the other ones that I can't even be assed to know the name of would have to be reviewed and probably removed.

As for AH, I actually think they did a pretty good job keeping their content strictly centered on gaming, so that would be another case of having to just look at the numbers and see what's the most popular and what's lagging behind. AH is probably RT's most consistent group in terms of bringing in profits, so I wouldn't bring down the hammer too hard on them, but they could certainly stand to cut out some of their less popular series that they keep pushing for whatever reason.

AH is a difficult case because their success was so rooted in the original 6 person group that it's pretty much impossible to replicate it. They just had great synergy and charisma - and even in Jack's case, his lack of charisma made him a good contrast to the other guys. I know Ryan joined later in the game, but I'd argue he became indispensable pretty quickly, even though he was kind of barely-there in the beginning. In either case, the OGs - as you said - are too old to keep up the energy they once had, but getting rid of most or even all of them would be met with swift backlash, too.

Obviously there's no chance of this now, but I honestly think Etika would've been a great addition in conjunction with Fiona, since the only time I remember ever finding her funny was in a conversation she had with Etika; they probably had a really good rapport. Getting the two of them together, assuming he could have handled the workload mentally, would have probably improved things quite a bit.

As for them being shit at games, that's not necessarily a bad thing as it can be very entertaining, but it definitely gets annoying when there's just one person doing all the work while everyone else fucks around. In fact, that's definitely part of why Ray quit. So the answer might just be that AH is beyond saving apart from overhauling the entire group and starting from scratch, and that would be a huge risk.
So your analysis is that RT has too many mainstays that can't be removed because it'll piss off the fanbase. GREAT.

Honestly, all I can think of that can really help RT in the landscape that could save them and keep them going is RWBY (if only because it's an IP that you can let run its course before shelving it and rebooting it in the future) and Death Battle (because "who would win in a fight" will never go away and you can easily corner and be at the top of that market if you actually have DB's setup that makes it more than an animation to throw on YouTube or Newgrounds).
 
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So your analysis is that RT has too many mainstays that can't be removed because it'll piss off the fanbase. GREAT.

Pretty much! There's a good amount of superfluous content that can be cut (like all the animated series they have that no one even knows about, let alone watches), but the sad part is that the majority of the fans are watching a handful of series, and that handful probably also costs the most to produce BECAUSE of how popular they are. Similarly, bogging their site down with too much mediocre content will drive fans away, but so will cutting the popular shows that fans have stuck around for all this time, regardless of their quality level. And so the ouroboros eats its own tail.

Honestly, all I can think of that can really help RT in the landscape that could save them and keep them going is RWBY (if only because it's an IP that you can let run its course before shelving it and rebooting it in the future) and Death Battle (because "who would win in a fight" will never go away and you can easily corner and be at the top of that market if you actually have DB's setup that makes it more than an animation to throw on YouTube or Newgrounds).

Death Battle is weirdly under-utilized by RT, which I've always found odd since they acquired it. I'm not a huge fan of it myself, but just like you said, "who would win in a fight" is a question that can be asked with different pairings forever; it's an endless source of content. I don't know why they don't advertise it better.

I agree with you completely here, though; RWBY has a high rewatchability and could easily be rebooted down the line, and Death Battle SHOULD be a more notable IP due to its popularity, but they're just not connecting themselves to it properly. I guess a lot of the issue RT has had is poor merging of all the new IPs after the Warner acquisition, so things always feel really segmented and classic RT content is - to an extent - understandably given more attention than the newly acquired shows that are probably more popular overall. Very weird dynamic.
 
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Because it either sells well or because it's their job, Meg, duh.
It's more or less the same with her I guess: had that very serious fan trauma, but still keeps on selling lewd pics and hyping up her fans regardless.
Also, Trevor's post is quite "remarkable" as well, imo.
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I know fan translations are popular online so lets try a "Not so much of a fan anymore" translation of these tweets.

"I can't believe that after months of public pontificating that you stupid fucking peons do what we want you to do the moment we turn around and do the opposite you guys have the balls to call us out on it. How fucking dare you little shits try to hold us accountable you're nobodies, we're internet famous."


Retarded assholes.

You know I was expecting some sort of sanctimonious little speech about gun violence or something but it was somehow worse than that. Just a listless "OMG can we like, move on guys?" like she was just so bored of it all.
What a cunt.

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Are there any first members here that watched it live?
Also Michael needs to cut his hair because it makes him look like an ugly lesbian
Is it just me or is Michael getting fatter?
 
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AH is a difficult case because their success was so rooted in the original 6 person group that it's pretty much impossible to replicate it. They just had great synergy and charisma - and even in Jack's case, his lack of charisma made him a good contrast to the other guys. I know Ryan joined later in the game, but I'd argue he became indispensable pretty quickly, even though he was kind of barely-there in the beginning. In either case, the OGs - as you said - are too old to keep up the energy they once had, but getting rid of most or even all of them would be met with swift backlash, too.

So the answer might just be that AH is beyond saving apart from overhauling the entire group and starting from scratch, and that would be a huge risk.
Granted I am probably blinded by selfishness here as this is what would get me back to being an AH viewer. Cut the fat. Keep Michael, Gavin, Jack, and Jeremy. Try to convince Geoff to come back or at least be in maybe half their Let's Plays. Drop the rest. The out of the box never going to happen addition to that would be to shut down FunHouse and add James and Elyse to the remaining original AH crew. I know they live in different states so that won't happen since they are slowly going to move everybody back into the offices.


Is it just me or is Michael getting fatter?
Lindsey probably convinced him that eating healthy, exercising, and being in shape is both fatphobic and racist.
 
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