Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Hackallier]

If you guys are so good at social distancing and shit, why are they enforcing martial law to combat the spread? I remember seeing that in the thread, what's the rationale there? Did you guys suddenly get a massive uptick of cases?

I didn't say we are good at reducing spread, I was just amused by the culture of not wanting to stand out. We had an uptick in cases, but this can be explained just by testing differentials.

But no, we have had not talks about martial law. Only thing that has ever been called is a so called "alert state" and that one is being discussed again. There's currently a lot of debate about what our so called "infection law" that existed before corona allows for. They are trying to tune the law so curfews are allowed. But even these curfews get shot down by law experts, because all these laws demand that sufficient need to declare these measures must be proven.

Our government is led by totally inept leftist woman ministers that can't get shit done and flip-flop back and forth between positions and keep getting shot down by constitutional etc. law experts. There seems to be a communication problems and fights between the ministers. (Women, am I rite?)

 

[Mrs. Addams]

Grandpa (90) got vaccinated after having Covid (twice?). He didn't have any Covid symptoms, but Mom tells me the second dose of whatever vaccine they gave him has had him stuck in bed feeling crummy for a week.

Mom's doctor has told her that the vaccine is worse if you've already had Covid. Not sure where he got that... He's offering to write up "This person has already had Covid and doesn't need a vaccine" cards up for those who need them if they start demanding proof of vaccine.

 

[tastyfleshdiet]

I didn't say we are good at reducing spread, I was just amused by the culture of not wanting to stand out. We had an uptick in cases, but this can be explained just by testing differentials.

But no, we have had not talks about martial law. Only thing that has ever been called is a so called "alert state" and that one is being discussed again. There's currently a lot of debate about what our so called "infection law" that existed before corona allows for. They are trying to tune the law so curfews are allowed. But even these curfews get shot down by law experts, because all these laws demand that sufficient need to declare these measures must be proven.

Our government is led by totally inept leftist woman ministers that can't get shit done and flip-flop back and forth between positions and keep getting shot down by constitutional etc. law experts. There seems to be a communication problems and fights between the ministers. (Women, am I rite?)

i think what was being called "martial law" was how they put in place this thing i like to call a mini-lockdown, where restaurants and gyms etc. were closed and students in middle school or above went back to distance teaching. it started on the 8th and will last for three weeks (though i assume they'll just extend it for whatever bullshit reason they come up with, maybe even upgrade it to a full lockdown because that will totally help)

in planes it's been a thing for a while, but i believe some buses and most trains now enforce masks as well. you can kind of skirt around it by saying you can't wear one because of medical reasons and they're not allowed to pursue it further than that, though. there is also a disturbing amount of lunatics pushing for things in the news lately, like our science and culture minister (because this is totally her fucking business) wants all grocery stores to enforce masks, which would take changing laws, and on top of that i think someone was even floating the idea of a curfew where you can't go out unless it's for school, work, or buying necessary shit, as well as putting soldiers on the streets in more crowded cities near the capital to ask people why they're outside and where they're going. cool slippery slope right there.

to me it seems like while most of the world went through their bullshit in the past year, here in backwater europoor land it's going in reverse and our mask cultists want retarded restrictions now, after a mostly okay year because big numbers are scary. i'm glad more states in the US are starting to ditch shit and hoping rest of the world will eventually follow suit and just come to terms with the fact that yes, old, fat and sick people might die. huge fucking surprise.

tl;dr: finland is gay

 

[Stoneheart]

Finaly got my shot Yesterday. Homebase vaccinated 50k people this week and plans to do the same the next 3 weeks to keep the supply chain stable.

 

[Arm Pit Cream]

The neon orange retard published this lame shit on his telegram claiming he fucking invented the corona vaccine and did all the vaccination

 

[Jar-Jar Fanboy]

Correct me if any of this is wrong, this is just stuff I've heard, and dots I've connected, but it's hard to talk about it with people in real life, and I'm not totally sure if it's right or not. So, I recently saw a clip of Saint Fauci talking about how any PCR test that returns a positive result above a 35 can be thrown out as a false positive. Whatever it's picking up by that point isn't Covid. But, we've all been testing regularly for the past year at up to 45 cycles, which is why that can of Coke in Australia tested positive, as did the goat and the papaya the President of Tanzania claims he got positive tests from. So, how many positive cases of Covid were based around that 35+ false positive reading? Hundreds, thousands, Hell, even millions? And now that the threshold for what constitutes a positive test is higher (or lower, I suppose, in that I think they dropped that 35+ number to something more realistic) than before, that explains why the numbers appear to have dropped off a fucking cliff.

The other issue I've had is how the deaths are counted. I'm not sure about how they're counted everywhere, but if I recall correctly, a lot of places consider a Covid death as any death that occurs within 28 days of testing positive, and I've even heard some places going as high as 60 days. So then, you look into who's actually dying of Covid, and it's primarily people over the age of 70, as in, people already knocking on death's door, without Covid. When you cast such a wide net as to what is considered a Covid death, how many of those cases should truly be counted? The reality is, old people fucking die, for any number of reasons, a lot. So when you go with something like, within 60 days of a positive test, for a virus said to only last for about fourteen days, and have a staggering amount of false positives due to counting 35+ cycle readings until just a couple months ago, how many of these alleged Covid deaths are actually Covid deaths, and not just old people dying of, I don't know, cancer, a stroke, heart failure, old age, etc.? I don't deny that there is a virus out there, and for some people, sure, it's pretty deadly, but with how they seem to be pulling some creative accounting shit with the numbers, I'm seriously thinking that the politicians and the media have blown the numbers wildly out of proportion.

And then, people are giving so much shit to all those states about reopening, but I go and look at the numbers, and every one of those states has been on the decline for cases, and deaths, for months, including Florida, which should be, a mass graveyard, due to an aging population, and incredibly lax rules. Hell, even in my native Leafland, the numbers have been steadily declining, and yet, nothing seems to be getting any better. I don't think this is about a virus anymore, and I wonder if it ever truly was.

Again, if my information is wrong, please correct me, but this is based on what I've read, and seen, and I want to be accurate

 

[Fliddaroonie]

Correct me if any of this is wrong, this is just stuff I've heard, and dots I've connected, but it's hard to talk about it with people in real life, and I'm not totally sure if it's right or not. So, I recently saw a clip of Saint Fauci talking about how any PCR test that returns a positive result above a 35 can be thrown out as a false positive. Whatever it's picking up by that point isn't Covid. But, we've all been testing regularly for the past year at up to 45 cycles, which is why that can of Coke in Australia tested positive, as did the goat and the papaya the President of Tanzania claims he got positive tests from. So, how many positive cases of Covid were based around that 35+ false positive reading? Hundreds, thousands, Hell, even millions? And now that the threshold for what constitutes a positive test is higher (or lower, I suppose, in that I think they dropped that 35+ number to something more realistic) than before, that explains why the numbers appear to have dropped off a fucking cliff.

The other issue I've had is how the deaths are counted. I'm not sure about how they're counted everywhere, but if I recall correctly, a lot of places consider a Covid death as any death that occurs within 28 days of testing positive, and I've even heard some places going as high as 60 days. So then, you look into who's actually dying of Covid, and it's primarily people over the age of 70, as in, people already knocking on death's door, without Covid. When you cast such a wide net as to what is considered a Covid death, how many of those cases should truly be counted? The reality is, old people fucking die, for any number of reasons, a lot. So when you go with something like, within 60 days of a positive test, for a virus said to only last for about fourteen days, and have a staggering amount of false positives due to counting 35+ cycle readings until just a couple months ago, how many of these alleged Covid deaths are actually Covid deaths, and not just old people dying of, I don't know, cancer, a stroke, heart failure, old age, etc.? I don't deny that there is a virus out there, and for some people, sure, it's pretty deadly, but with how they seem to be pulling some creative accounting shit with the numbers, I'm seriously thinking that the politicians and the media have blown the numbers wildly out of proportion.

And then, people are giving so much shit to all those states about reopening, but I go and look at the numbers, and every one of those states has been on the decline for cases, and deaths, for months, including Florida, which should be, a mass graveyard, due to an aging population, and incredibly lax rules. Hell, even in my native Leafland, the numbers have been steadily declining, and yet, nothing seems to be getting any better. I don't think this is about a virus anymore, and I wonder if it ever truly was.

Again, if my information is wrong, please correct me, but this is based on what I've read, and seen, and I want to be accurate

Short answer: yes. And this is what many of us have been saying for months now, only to have quit having opinions because we get REEEEEEEEEd at by people who are either unwilling or incapable of considering these points.


But yeah. Pretty much that

Edit. If you really want to shit yourself, this was leaked last year. Couple months from now there will be vivid 21 , they'll tighten the screws on vaccines, lots of stuff to look forward to.

 

[Osyth Osyth]

You call that a culture where sticking out is a bad thing? Try wearing masks when it's not required. In Finland we have 0 mask mandates aside from planes, but 95%+ of the people are using them. Even I use those shitty cloth masks that are a joke when visiting stores just to not attract attention, the feeling of not wanting to stand out is a bitch. Also the standard of personal space here is hilarious. This is before corona, because of this we never had much talk about social distancing:

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Went out for the first time since the mask mandate was lifted in Texas. Everybody that I saw still wore a mask. Even the people I went with. They didn’t mention it at all though which is just surprising on a personal level.

I can’t understand not wanting to stand out lest you look like an attention whore, but, fuck, you really don’t get anything for playing along

 

[Fliddaroonie]

I can’t understand not wanting to stand out lest you look like an attention whore, but, fuck, you really don’t get anything for playing along

Naw they get to coom in their pa ties because they're not MURDERING GRANDMA YOU BASTARD!!!!

 

[Jar-Jar Fanboy]

Short answer: yes. And this is what many of us have been saying for months now, only to have quit having opinions because we get REEEEEEEEEd at by people who are either unwilling or incapable of considering these points.


But yeah. Pretty much that

This is what I've been thinking for a long time, too, but the clip of Saint Fauci I mentioned is what really made got my noggin joggin'. I didn't realize just how many PCR tests could be disregarded before that, so while I assumed there was always some level of number massaging, I didn't realize just how much there could really be

 

[Fliddaroonie]

This is what I've been thinking for a long time, too, but the clip of Saint Fauci I mentioned is what really made got my noggin joggin'. I didn't realize just how many PCR tests could be disregarded before that, so while I assumed there was always some level of number massaging, I didn't realize just how much there could really be

This is going to sound rude but I domt mean it to, so I I apologise: how long did it take for you to reach these conclusions? And what do you plan on doing with the insight you now have?

 

[Jar-Jar Fanboy]

This is going to sound rude but I domt mean it to, so I I apologise: how long did it take for you to reach these conclusions? And what do you plan on doing with the insight you now have?

I saw the Fauci clip maybe a week ago, even though it's a few months old. Prior to the knowledge of the sheer volume of false positives, I had known that this was a disease really only affecting old people for months and months. I learned about the wide timeframe for what's considered a Covid death shortly after the Fauci clip, and that's when I really started putting it all together. I've posted my doubts in this thread previously, about how little a risk I've thought this thing is, but it wasn't until now that I realized just how little risk it truly is. As to what I intend to do with the information, I've tried talking about it with people, but it seems like nobody really wants to listen. I made a joke about wishing I lived in Texas, and my coworker said "no, you don't. They're all going to get Covid," and it's just so exhausting arguing with people who only listen to what the talking heads on television tell them, and refuse to look at the numbers and draw their own conclusions. I'm not going to give up, but I just have to pick my battles. Sometimes, it's just not worth it to argue

 

[Fliddaroonie]

I saw the Fauci clip maybe a week ago, even though it's a few months old. Prior to the knowledge of the sheer volume of false positives, I had known that this was a disease really only affecting old people for months and months. I learned about the wide timeframe for what's considered a Covid death shortly after the Fauci clip, and that's when I really started putting it all together. I've posted my doubts in this thread previously, about how little a risk I've thought this thing is, but it wasn't until now that I realized just how little risk it truly is. As to what I intend to do with the information, I've tried talking about it with people, but it seems like nobody really wants to listen. I made a joke about wishing I lived in Texas, and my coworker said "no, you don't. They're all going to get Covid," and it's just so exhausting arguing with people who only listen to what the talking heads on television tell them, and refuse to look at the numbers and draw their own conclusions. I'm not going to give up, but I just have to pick my battles. Sometimes, it's just not worth it to argue

Totally agree. It is infuriating. More so cos the people refusing to awe are driving this, really.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

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You can also prevent covid by jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge. Science!

 

[The High Prophet of Truth]

 

[Bosmadden]

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The UK has reported over 250 deaths possibly related to the AstraZeneca shot. The CDC reports that the various coof not vaccines are at least 20 times more dangerous than the seasonal flu shot.

I'd say the majority of the adverse effects are likely allergic reactions or over reactive immune responses. Being left with a permanent antibody marker, that only the recipients of the mRNA vaccines have, worries me way, way more.

So I'd advise every one to avoid unless you're worried. If you're a fat piece of shit with Type 2 and a weak ticker then you likely don't have much to lose anyway so have at it.

 

[The High Prophet of Truth]

 

[ToroidalBoat]

With this scamdemic - forced on us by corrupt elite - dragging on for a year now, can you imagine how it's messing with the development of babies born around the time this whole shitshow started? They've gone their first year or so pretty much never seeing the face of anyone but their parents at home. And who knows how this insane "New Normal" is impacting the growth of older kids.

I'm still not used to everyone muzzling up BTW. This whole scamdemic circus is like something out of The Twilight Zone.

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

I'd say the majority of the adverse effects are likely allergic reactions or over reactive immune responses. Being left with a permanent antibody marker, that only the recipients of the mRNA vaccines have, worries me way, way more.

So I'd advise every one to avoid unless you're worried. If you're a fat piece of shit with Type 2 and a weak ticker then you likely don't have much to lose anyway so have at it.

If somebody super has to get one, I guess they should get the Johnson and Johnson one. It's an actual vaccine.

 

[Marshal Mannerheim]

turkish milkers

I see the Khazars aren't the only Altaic tribe with big tits.