Space Jam A New Legacy - From Black Panther to Bugs Bunny

Does the original Space Jam hold up?


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I don't know why they bothered to invite him to a screening and were surprised that he was unhappy it had nothing to do with the Looney Tune's source material.
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With humor like this it wasn't surprising he hated it. In contrast, part of me suspects Space Jam 2 will take itself way more seriously than it needs to in order to establish itself as an "epic crossover movie" and not just a "Looney Tunes movie" while retaining even worse examples of the humor from the first film in some parts, all of which would probably make Chuck Jones chuck mana vomit from heaven while his corpse somersaults right out of the grave and does a flip midair.
 
Further evidence that all this "woke" shit is at best rather retarded. I've given up on pretty much all "modern" media and yearn for the 90s again. Nostalgia fans have a point.
I'm not sure why no one's bitching about Fudd using any weapons to begin with, wouldn't that seem a little more "logical" in their minds? But no, bladed weapons are a-okay to them and not the thing that actually gets comedy.

This movement is pants on head retarded.
 
I feel like movies like this are just a way to forcibly revive those dead IPs so they can desperately spam them to shit and wonder why no one cares. It's only using IPs people know to forcibly revive those ones.
Or they're just creatively bankrupt and rely on nostalgia-baiting without understanding what made the nostalgia memorable to begin with.

These corporate suits calling the shots for these cinematic universes just don't get it. All they saw was the success of Marvel and wanted to jump in without a plan, and without studying why it was so successful.
One of the main reason Epic Mickey was as good as it was story-wise is because Warren Spector directed it and was given access to the Disney Vault to do so.

Warner Brothers have no idea what to do with making a franchise. They have been dooming their IPs and making them rush to make something big happen with no build up or interest from audiences. One of the big problems in my option is it never feels earned and won't let any of their IPs build up organically. They see the success of Marvel but don't want to put in the time and effort to have that buildup to events people will pay for. The corporate suits want money in the short term instead of building up something big in the long term. If you want to make something like Marvel did, you need build interest with the audience, put in time and effort, and an interesting/fun story line to follow in order to get there. You also need a producer (i.e .Kevin Feige) to manage it all to be cohesive. The first 5 movies that Marvel did give them decent returns but it wasn't until they built it up slow to make the Avengers that they started to make crazy returns on the investment of them. Something that Warner Brothers suits would never take a chance on.
It's actually a very simple thing to do looking back at the MCU, which I can't understand for the life of me why Warner Bros. doesn't know this. They just rushed the DCEU without developing characters and testing the waters. Why do you think War Machine and Hulk were recast in the MCU? Nothing was set and stone at that point. And for all things considered now, the MCU isn't perfect (Captain Marvel), but it's very serviceable as a franchise.

The first problem was trying to get Christopher Nolan to head the DCEU, leading to the whole "real" and "dark" tone this "franchise" initially had. Nolan was clearly burnt out after The Dark Knight Trilogy, which worked because Batman was probably the most realistic and grounded when compared to other DC heroes, and in terms of Bruce Wayne, his associates and the villains. That magic can't work on something like Superman or Wonder Woman because you're talking about a world with aliens and cyborgs and mystical creatures. It's actually kinda disgraceful putting his name as a producer credit for all the DCEU films.

The second problem was having Zack Snyder head the DCEU. Clearly, he didn't have much knowledge of the DC Universe, unlike Kevin Feige, who was chosen because he was knowledgeable of the Marvel Comics. He also is a hack in many ways, and is more concern with visuals than storytelling. He wants to make things grounded, but he already made Watchmen.

The third problem(s) were Man of Steel, Dawn of Justice and Suicide Squad. I could care less for Man of Steel and Dawn of Justice was a fucking mess. Man of Steel caused some people to not like Superman because of the damage he helped cause to Metropolis. Dawn of Justice was a pretentious fanboy meme film, building up stuff with no payoff, turning Lex Luthor into an autist, and setting up a film ("Lois Lane is the key!") that never happened, or flimsily happened. Suicide Squad was a bloated mess. The editing is terrible. The Joker was terrible. A lot of these characters could have been cut from the film. And the whole purpose of the Suicide Squad has been bungled to what it would make more sense for them to see. The Suicide Squad don't save the world. They're mercenaries the government hired to kill political enemies or do activities that the government doesn't want to be seen doing. Assault on Arkham was a better Suicide Squad film than Suicide Squad.

The fourth problem was not making standalone films for Batman, Aquaman, The Flash and Cyborg. It would have really helped like these characters instead of slapping them on Wonder Woman's laptop for 10 seconds each.

And then there's Justice League, which was an abomination. A fucking abomination.

The suits are completely devoid of long-term thinking. What matters is quarterly earnings to them.
 
Or they're just creatively bankrupt and rely on nostalgia-baiting without understanding what made the nostalgia memorable to begin with.



It's actually a very simple thing to do looking back at the MCU, which I can't understand for the life of me why Warner Bros. doesn't know this. They just rushed the DCEU without developing characters and testing the waters. Why do you think War Machine and Hulk were recast in the MCU? Nothing was set and stone at that point. And for all things considered now, the MCU isn't perfect (Captain Marvel), but it's very serviceable as a franchise.

The first problem was trying to get Christopher Nolan to head the DCEU, leading to the whole "real" and "dark" tone this "franchise" initially had. Nolan was clearly burnt out after The Dark Knight Trilogy, which worked because Batman was probably the most realistic and grounded when compared to other DC heroes, and in terms of Bruce Wayne, his associates and the villains. That magic can't work on something like Superman or Wonder Woman because you're talking about a world with aliens and cyborgs and mystical creatures. It's actually kinda disgraceful putting his name as a producer credit for all the DCEU films.

The second problem was having Zack Snyder head the DCEU. Clearly, he didn't have much knowledge of the DC Universe, unlike Kevin Feige, who was chosen because he was knowledgeable of the Marvel Comics. He also is a hack in many ways, and is more concern with visuals than storytelling. He wants to make things grounded, but he already made Watchmen.

The third problem(s) were Man of Steel, Dawn of Justice and Suicide Squad. I could care less for Man of Steel and Dawn of Justice was a fucking mess. Man of Steel caused some people to not like Superman because of the damage he helped cause to Metropolis. Dawn of Justice was a pretentious fanboy meme film, building up stuff with no payoff, turning Lex Luthor into an autist, and setting up a film ("Lois Lane is the key!") that never happened, or flimsily happened. Suicide Squad was a bloated mess. The editing is terrible. The Joker was terrible. A lot of these characters could have been cut from the film. And the whole purpose of the Suicide Squad has been bungled to what it would make more sense for them to see. The Suicide Squad don't save the world. They're mercenaries the government hired to kill political enemies or do activities that the government doesn't want to be seen doing. Assault on Arkham was a better Suicide Squad film than Suicide Squad.

The fourth problem was not making standalone films for Batman, Aquaman, The Flash and Cyborg. It would have really helped like these characters instead of slapping them on Wonder Woman's laptop for 10 seconds each.

And then there's Justice League, which was an abomination. A fucking abomination.

The suits are completely devoid of long-term thinking. What matters is quarterly earnings to them.
That's what I been consently saying they should have build it up like how MCU did. Have all the Justice League members of stand alone movies first than have the Justice League together. The reason DCEU is shit because they rushed shit to fast
 
i know it's late but isn't it sad how what was once satire a generation ago, is becoming a harsh reality now?
It's even sad to have grown up through all of it.

I can understand why Chuck Jones hated Space Jam, it ruined his "children". He'd probably hate Back In Action for some of it's choices (not to mention Pepe Le Pew's role being cut). As someone else here had said. What they're doing here is nothing more than nostalgia-banking but with a mindful nod to woke standards. I'd rather not have the film if it meant not ruining the characters we loved best
 
It's even sad to have grown up through all of it.

I can understand why Chuck Jones hated Space Jam, it ruined his "children". He'd probably hate Back In Action for some of it's choices (not to mention Pepe Le Pew's role being cut). As someone else here had said. What they're doing here is nothing more than nostalgia-banking but with a mindful nod to woke standards. I'd rather not have the film if it meant not ruining the characters we loved best
Look how they massacred the fucking Muppets.

They took all the jokes out and made them be zero comedy inoffensive novelties.
 
Yeah, Back in Action kinda felt like it was trying to return to being loony, but there was still executive meddling that happened with it because Joe Dante's original jokes somehow peeved Warner Bros. off to the point they hired 25 gag writers to rewrite the jokes. I was discussing it with a friend over a week ago, and we came to the conclusion Warner Bros. may have sabotaged the movie's marketing and theatrical release so it could bomb to spite Dante.
 
Yeah, Back in Action kinda felt like it was trying to return to being loony, but there was still executive meddling that happened with it because Joe Dante's original jokes somehow peeved Warner Bros. off to the point they hired 25 gag writers to rewrite the jokes. I was discussing it with a friend over a week ago, and we came to the conclusion Warner Bros. may have sabotaged the movie's marketing and theatrical release so it could bomb to spite Dante.
I didn't know about any of that. What a shame.

I guess that explains the marketing of the movie, then. I remember seeing trailers to that movie, and I thought it looked horrible. Then, I was "forced" to see it with my dad and my brothers in theaters, fully expecting to cringe the entire time. I found myself laughing at a lot of it, and actually enjoying it, though.
 
I think it's been basically confirmed that if wb doesn't like a project they'll let it bomb like with back in action and the rest of their animated films. Which still makes it surprising to me that the ttg movie did so well. Even if they only broke enough even.
 
I didn't know about any of that. What a shame.

I guess that explains the marketing of the movie, then. I remember seeing trailers to that movie, and I thought it looked horrible. Then, I was "forced" to see it with my dad and my brothers in theaters, fully expecting to cringe the entire time. I found myself laughing at a lot of it, and actually enjoying it, though.
We didn't know, either, until we looked it up discussing Space Jam 2. Although we were baffled by it, we weren't surprised since we both agree Disney must've sabotaged Princess and the Frog and the 2011 Winnie the Pooh movie to make an excuse to close down their traditional animation department. Warner Bros. fucking over their most famous IP like that didn't feel out of left field.

On the plus side, though, we got Duck Dodgers out of it. Apparently Duck Dodgers was supposed to be like a spin-off or tie-in to Back in Action.

I think it's been basically confirmed that if wb doesn't like a project they'll let it bomb like with back in action and the rest of their animated films. Which still makes it surprising to me that the ttg movie did so well. Even if they only broke enough even.
Warner Bros. seemed to have felt some rare form of remorse over The Iron Giant over the years, but it's so strange they're so willing to flush money down the toilet like that. Disney has the "fuck you" money to do that, but Warner Bros. has had occasional financial difficulties. It was why they closed their animation department for a long time 'cause they weren't turning a profit off of Looney Tunes and had to lighten the load.
 
Yeah, Back in Action kinda felt like it was trying to return to being loony, but there was still executive meddling that happened with it because Joe Dante's original jokes somehow peeved Warner Bros. off to the point they hired 25 gag writers to rewrite the jokes. I was discussing it with a friend over a week ago, and we came to the conclusion Warner Bros. may have sabotaged the movie's marketing and theatrical release so it could bomb to spite Dante.
IIRC wasn't the film also supposed to have a completely different ending before the execs started fucking things up?
 
Back in Action was closer to the spirit of Looney Tunes and had some great moments, but the story was kind of a mess and the inclusion of human leads really dragged it down.

Still though, Daffy got his time to shine, the art museum sequence was fantastic, and Yosemite Sam's casino was pretty great.
 
Marvin the Martian's my lil' nigga so I adore Back in Action just for having him being the final boss, per se, on top of everything else that was goofy about the movie. I was honestly looking forward to and dreading the proposed Marvin the Martian movie, though it being canceled is no big surprise. I swear a promotional video was released, but I can't remember how I found it and its authenticity is questioning.
 
Marvin the Martian's my lil' nigga so I adore Back in Action just for having him being the final boss, per se, on top of everything else that was goofy about the movie. I was honestly looking forward to and dreading the proposed Marvin the Martian movie, though it being canceled is no big surprise. I swear a promotional video was released, but I can't remember how I found it and its authenticity is questioning.
I remember they were also making a "politically correct" and Disneyfied Speedy Gonzales movie to try and "redeem" him, despite that Speedy Gonzales was well liked by actual Mexicans and some US Latin organization back in the 2000s actually petitioned to have Speedy shorts air on Cartoon Network again and won. Only for CN to move all their old stuff except Tom & Jerry and Scooby Doo to Boomerang a few years later for almost 2 decades, which ultimately led to one of the first kid generations growing up without HB reruns or Looney Tunes.

This would prove to be their undoing in the longrun and ultimately buttfucked a lot of classic IP's appeal among new generations, and all so they could avoid "offending woke or oversensitive parents with outdated jokes". By comparison, Tom and Jerry remain popular worldwide (and Scooby Doo to a lesser extent since most kids these days only know them from those crappy direct-to-dvd movies) because their shit continues to be on reruns and advertised regular via streaming. Kind of ironic now that they're trying to make them relevant.
 
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