Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
All of them. And at this point, I want cancel culture to red/black pill everyone so they can see what these Leftists are like.
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I agree. I would finally super funny and ironic if Pedro Pascal got Redpilled.
I won't lie I love how those anti-SJWs were right about Burr being next. A lot of times they can be full of shit like Fandom Menace, but sometimes they can be right.

Also Pablo is a dick.
 
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Shield Breaker said:
These fuckers are just racists looking for acceptable targets.
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That's too specific, they're just horrible people with horrible lives desperate for an outlet for their frustration at themselves. I've followed enough people like that back to their profiles on lolcow expeditions to confidently say they're all truly miserable. Their timelines are nothing but attacking people and bitching about their therapists. They basically have social media rabies, all they can do anymore is froth at the mouth and attack people with whatever method they think will be the most effective (racism in this case).
 
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Adamska said:
And I'm actually baffled on how come it's so hard for Wolf-Fucker to invent new characters given how bad he is at widening a plot.
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Because much like J.J. Abrams and Rian Johnson, he only knows how to make the world smaller, not bigger.

Adamska said:
It's making me suspect that he didn't even make his own characters and very likely just took George's proto-designs and traced them given how reluctant he is with it.
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There's a kernel of truth to this, because Ahsoka is almost exactly what you've described: a concept that Lucas came up with, that Filoni ended up conceiving visually, and then acted like it was his own creation.

This is also partially why Ahsoka's narrative use past TCW Season 5 has been so horrendous, because Filoni is taking a character that was only supposed live up till Order 66 and desperately emphasize how uber-important she is to the wider world and universe...very much how Zahn is doing with his Blue Space Elves, but arguably more autistic.
 
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Adamska said:
And I'm actually baffled on how come it's so hard for Wolf-Fucker to invent new characters given how bad he is at widening a plot. It's making me suspect that he didn't even make his own characters and very likely just took George's proto-designs and traced them given how reluctant he is with it.
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if I hadn't just dived into Star Wars comics (BTW, thanks for the exhaustive rundown earlier in the thread @Mississippi Motorboater!) I'd be a little baffled myself...but Jesus H. Christ, let me just say this - Wolf-Fucker pretty much raped and pillaged well over 90% of the 2000s Star Wars comics characters, put them into his own Clone Wars and then retconned their characters and actions with: "Well akhtchually...this is how I would re-imagine them in accordance to my holy waifu, Ashoka Tano, that is totes not a ripoff Shaak-Ti whom I relegate to just doing nothing at Kamino during the course of my show."

seriously, I haven't read through all of them yet, but the amount of shit that I can draw a direct line to Filoni's Clone Wars show, that he shamelessly pilfered from the comics with only a few lameass renames like Korriban becoming Moriband, is both brazen as shit as well as the best indication of him being just as creatively bankrupt as the Disney Writer group. the only difference is that he's a more capable hack fraud than them and has managed to cover it up and establish his own cult following better than them and thus his public perception is more favorable lmao. so him having trouble expanding the plot (in the same way Rebels had problems no doubt) now surprises me not one iota.

after all, what kind of creative drive and direction can you even provide to your teams, or would have learned to have, when your seminal work that made your bones has only taught you how to steal from others that came before you? it's like the kid that keeps cheating successfully on every school test, then the finals come in and he can't do it anymore. nothing else will happen other than him crashing hard. in a similar vein, Filoni and his group did well enough providing shit to younger fans to consoom, so long as he could steal others' character and story ideas without consequence, but the second that he ran out of material and tried to come up with something new (like Rebels or this upcoming shit) the quality nosedives much more apparently because of this.
 
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This is one of the reasons I handwave most of TCW as in-universe Republic propaganda, with the only parts of the series I actively consider canon being the things that are actually referenced elsewhere in the EU (the obvious one being Mortis, as that ties directly into FOTJ, but that's more because the people running the EU made the astute decision to retcon the Mortis Gods as Celestials from old SW lore).

The rest of TCW can only really be enjoyed as an elseworlds-esque distraction, and even that sense of entertainment value has its limits. The show is rife with childish scenarios, one-dimensional characterization, and the moral complexity of an episode of Captain Planet. It's a Fisher Price version of the Clone Wars...which, of course, makes sense since children was its target demographic to begin with. It's obviously going to be dumbed down to placate the Cartoon Network audience, and not even reach the quality of the films. But that makes it easier to dismiss most of it in favor of a superior alternative in the form of the Clone Wars multimedia project, because that wasn't neutered to placate children. Just a glance at the novels like Shatterpoint or comic arcs like The Battle of Jabiim are proof that the writers had an older audience in mind, and weren't afraid to depict the grit of war...something that TCW was clearly unwilling to do, as to be expected for its content parameters. TCW is very much for children, and is tailored to the limited storytelling sensibilities and binary moral comprehension of a young audience.

But that also goes a long way to explain why its autistic fanbase of Filoni Fags perceive its quality as something exceptional. Their storytelling sensibilities haven't evolved past that of children. So it really isn't any wonder why they'd consider the Fisher Price Clone Wars as the peak of SW storytelling.
 
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White Devil said:
The cancel mob is coming for Bill Burr now :

How many others of the Mandalorian cast shall fall? Will we find out Pedro himself is a chaser?
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Shield Breaker said:
These fuckers are just racists looking for acceptable targets.
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They keep throwing around the word "coon" without understanding its origins or what its meaning is. It's just another word for nigger.

www.etymonline.com

coon | Etymology, origin and meaning of coon by etymonline

COON Meaning: "black person" was in use by 1837, said to be from barracoon (by 1837), from Portuguese barraca "slave… See definitions of coon.
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Admiral Mantoid said:
Yeah but with that is excusable since its the whole "in honor of me dad's legacy" kind of shit and the armor has endured for all its wear and tear and is made of valuable stuff, which in Disney shit is made incredibly inconsistent because they just had Boba abandon the armor for no reason only to reclaim it almost a decade later from out of nowhere, and no reasons or explanations are ever given other than because Filoni wanted it to be cool and mysterious and not contradict Chuck Windbag's shitty novels. Anyway, here we have a girl wearing a basic outfit that she's been wearing along with exact same hair accessories for 35 years while she has not aged a bit.
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Good point. I suppose it makes more sense for Mandalorians especially. Unless Fennec's armor is also a family piece as well? It very well could be, but I don't think that's ever been built upon yet. Also, looking at her wiki page now. She apparently ran jobs for all the top Crime Syndicates in the galaxy. So why the fuck couldn't she hit Shit-For-Brains and Plot-Armor Mando once the ENTIRE time they were trying to get to her on Tatooine? I suppose I can't really complain, since the Elite fucking Stormtroopers from the OT never hit anything either.

I think Filoni has done an alright job expanding on lore that we thought was broken, like the Mandalorian Cultists not taking off their helmets, but people got annoyed whenever this was first introduced in S1 because it broke basically every established canon ever. I know for a fact Filoni and Favreau aren't stupid enough to overlook the helmet fact, because Filoni literally ran TCW, which had helmet-less Mandalorians, but it's hard to say whether Fennec Shand was just terribly written, or if they have ideas to explain some of these weird plot points.

But I mean... I don't understand why whoever is in charge of TCW seemingly never thought "Hmm... I wonder what she would look like back then?", because instead it just looks like they've inserted a Mandalorian-Era Fennec into a show that's like 29-9 years earlier (Or somewhere around there)

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I mean, they did it with TCW. When they had characters in that show, they tried thinking up different designs. My favorite example is when young Boba wears his "Greenhorn" suit (as I like to call it) because his father's armor was still way too big.
 
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So that video I posted before about George and his wife was trending for more than just the "depressed George" meme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqqFf0EWhs8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl9xyrVhtSs
Apparently in the 2 hour long video, George outright says that he's lost control of Star Wars, their SW is not his and that "Disney Star Wars" does not represent his original vision. The video has started trending even more after the former #1 SW channel SWTheory shared it and sided with George.

On a related note, its funny seeing SWTheory, the biggest fence sitter and Disney shill who tried to "unite" the fans ultimately fall away from Disney and do videos about old stuff and Disney criticisms with Drunk3PO and other people he used to dub as "toxic" after getting humiliated and dissed by Hidalgo, Lucasfilm, and the Disney fans for his reaction to Luke. How the mighty have fallen as they say. Just goes to show that this is what happens when you try to be a loyal consumer only to find out corporate suits don't give a shit about you.

Miller said:
I can't believe I didn't hear that song before.
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Is it weird that I thought this was gonna be a humorous abridged reading of Jonathan Livingston Seagull in Yoda's voice?

Curzon said:
Good point. I suppose it makes more sense for Mandalorians especially. Unless Fennec's armor is also a family piece as well? It very well could be, but I don't think that's ever been built upon yet. Also, looking at her wiki page now. She apparently ran jobs for all the top Crime Syndicates in the galaxy.
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Wow. So she's just going to be another Ahsoka but for "underworld" stuff instead of Force/Rebel stuff. Bravo Filoni.
 
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Admiral Mantoid said:
Wow. So she's just going to be another Ahsoka but for "underworld" stuff instead of Force/Rebel stuff. Bravo Filoni.
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Pretty much. I mean, don't get me wrong, I definitely want to see some more Underworld-Oriented stuff, but... I mean... is good writing for that too much to ask for? (Probably, when it comes to Disney)

Fennec definitely seems/seemed like a character with good potential, but it's sad to see these characters just... sort of... lost. It's like they had a good concept, but then they kept trying to add more things to the character until what they "Specialize in" just became a muddled mess of millions of different skills and lore. (Before the character has even been properly introduced for more than 4 episodes or so of content)
 
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I feel like a lot of this widespread discontent within the fandom wouldn't have existed if Disney had

1. Allowed people/authors/developers to continue making licensed Legends content

2. Allowed both Legends/Canon to be true, just different diverging storylines. For example, both could be true if you just felt they were, or maybe just diverging timelines (Like Star Trek's Kelvin Timeline), or something along those lines.

3. Didn't cancel and destroy all this amazingly cool storylines that had yet to exist. One of my saddest realizations is that (And Zahn said this in an interview), Timothy Zahn wasn't able to continue his original Thrawn plots anymore, and that it seems he is actually pretty damn sad about having to shut the doors on his original works.

"I thought about doing a trilogy before [the] Legends [changeover] was done—I’ve forgotten her name, but the young woman in Outbound Flight who becomes very close to Thrawn. I had an idea where she would eventually work with the Rebel Alliance using some of Thrawn’s techniques and details and such. That will never come to pass now. But I would like to see—she has some good possibilities. Bringing her back would be interesting."

4. Addressed concerns within the fandom. Because so far, all they've done is either just completely ignore concerns from the fandom (Unless the fandom was trying to get someone fucking fired), or just bunched a lot of us into a "Fandom Menace" category. We're all racists and sexists because we don't like Canon content as much, wooooo!
 
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Admiral Mantoid said:
Apparently in the 2 hour long video, George outright says that he's lost control of Star Wars, their SW is not his and that "Disney Star Wars" does not represent his original vision. The video has started trending even more after the former #1 SW channel SWTheory shared it and sided with George.
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How long until the Disney shills start pushing the "ackchyually Star Wars as we know it was never George's, ANH was saved in the editing room by his ex wife" shitty narrative?
 
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Miller said:
How long until the Disney shills start pushing the "ackchyually Star Wars as we know it was never George's, ANH was saved in the editing room by his ex wife" shitty narrative?
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Soon no doubt, but some youtube commenters and The Guardian are already trying to damage control:
But that's nothing new.

On a more comical note, I saw a headline about Daisy Ridley cast as Batgirl and thought "wtf", but it turns out it was just clickbait of some hilariously bad photoshop.
 
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Admiral Mantoid said:
Apparently in the 2 hour long video, George outright says that he's lost control of Star Wars, their SW is not his and that "Disney Star Wars" does not represent his original vision.
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Every time George distances himself and his work from the ST, an angel gets its wings.

And all of you fucks like Pablo Hidalgo and the Soy-Based Crooners in the ST fandom, who keep bleating about how the ST "lines up with what George Lucas intended", citing superficial similarities to his treatment like Luke being in exile, etc...all of you enjoy rubbing the sore spot of your ass-blast, because even Lucas himself has washed his hands of that trainwreck of a story.
 
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