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Conservative lawmakers in Utah have advanced a proposal that would automatically block pornography on phones and tablets sold in the state — a move that critics have blasted as unconstitutional.

Gov. Spencer Cox has not publicly indicated if he supports the bill; a spokeswoman said he “will carefully consider” the measure before a March 25 deadline.

Supporters of the state senate proposal claim that restricting explicit material helps parents protect their children — many of whom have their own devices, and are spending more time online during the coronavirus pandemic. Adults would be able to turn off the filters if they chose.

Lawmakers in the majority Mormon state have previously ordered warning labels on pornography, declaring it a “public health crisis” in 2016. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have railed against pornography in a conservative culture that sometimes considers mainstream magazines and lingerie catalogs offensive.

Phone manufacturers and retailers claimed filters would be too difficult to apply in a single state, and successfully lobbied for a provision that would only allow the bill to be enforced if at least five other states follow suit.

If the measure is signed into law, Utah would be the first state to mandate filters on devices. Federal restrictions aimed at preventing children from watching porn in the 1990’s were struck down in the courts.

The National Center on Sexual Exploitation said the bill would help parents who have trouble managing filters on their children’s devices.

“Utah has passed a critical, common sense solution to help protect vulnerable children from accessing harmful pornographic content on phones and tablets,” Executive Director Dawn Hawkins said in a statement.

“A child that wants to find it and tries to would probably be able to still. It’s just one step in the right direction,” said Republican Rep. Susan Pulsipher, the bill’s sponsor.

Pulsipher claims the move doesn’t violate free speech rights, because adults can disarm the censors.

Some advocates disagree.

“You’ve basically got the state mandating the filtering of lawful content. That raises immediate First Amendment flags,” said Samir Jain, policy director at the Center for Democracy and Technology, a Washington, D.C.-based internet policy group.

Wording of the bill could apply to any device “activated” in Utah, meaning it could be used to track the location of anyone passing through the state, Jain said.

The filters could also be used to block works of art, educational information and scientific facts about sex, said Mike Stabile, a spokesman for the Free Speech Coalition, an adult-entertainment trade group.

Emily Rothman, a Boston University professor who studied the issue, said that content filters can help protect children from being exposed to graphic images, but comprehensive education is the best tool to promote healthy sexuality. A bill to expand sex-ed in Utah failed to pass in the state legislature this year.

“Parental filters already exist,” said attorney Jason Groth of the American Civil Liberties Union of Utah, “and every Utah parent can decide the level of access for their children.”
 
I wish both sides would stop calling things a "public health crisis", that aren't directly related to actual health. The left started calling racism a "public health crisis", and now it's being done with porn by conservative politicians.

I personally think porn in general is unappealing and not great, but the labeling of random things as being a "public health crisis" is stupid and annoying.
 
I don't consider porn protected under the first amendment, but at the same time I don't care that it exists. I love how every draconian law has to be "for the children." Protect your own damn children and don't rely on big daddy government to do it for you. I'm a lax parent. We cuss each other out for fun and I let them consume media that the folks pushing this bill would likely consider degenerate, but I also know everything they do online and off. When they were younger they had extreme parental controls on their devices and now that they are older they just know that daddy could be looking over their shoulder at any moment. I also have to watch my shit because they could be looking over my shoulder at any moment.
 
In what way would this possibly be enforceable?

People with no knowledge of technology need to stop making laws regarding it.
Why does nobody understand the concept of 'friction'. If you just make it harder for people to do something, it cuts down on it by an enormous degree.

Making something "opt out" when it was "opt in" will usually reduce usage by something like 90%. Almost nobody outside weird internet people know what a VPN actually is or how to use one.
 
It's just another step for shitty parents to not take responsibility for their own children. You don't need to give a child a smartphone or tablet device, maybe the worries about them seeing things you don't want them to would be remedied better if you simply didn't give them such devices. Oh wait, that would mean giving a shit...
 
It kind of sounds like they're going to put something like those school filters on all Utah-related internet traffic, and I have no idea how they'd implement that without creating their own intranet.

Why don't they do something less radical but still substantially effective, like requiring identity verification to access pornographic sites? I guess something like that still requires them commandeering internet traffic in Utah, though...

It's just another step for shitty parents to not take responsibility for their own children. You don't need to give a child a smartphone or tablet device, maybe the worries about them seeing things you don't want them to would be remedied better if you simply didn't give them such devices. Oh wait, that would mean giving a shit...
Except that our society is developing such that it's becoming less and less possible to raise children without them having access to computers, and the phone development scene is becoming progressively less accommodating to crummy prepaid phones. Even without that, though, consider that we already rely on the state to restrict a child from accessing certain things like guns, alcohol, tobacco, and physical pornography-- yeah, you still have to flash your ID to get a copy of Naughty Mommies or whatever-the-hell from your gas station.

...so, why did we never think to do that for virtual access? Because porn producers benefit from cultivating a dedicated consumerbase while they're still young? We've already had ideas about how badly porn warps a child's mind and attitudes towards the opposite sex and sexual intercourse and more evidence is coming out that it just pervasively cripples most anyone's mind over a long enough timeframe. We make memes about "coomers" and "gooners" and degenerate weebs whose senses are so shot they'd actually become aroused by an almost unambiguous representation of an honest-to-God child in an anime medium despite the fact that most of them aren't functionally pedophiles, but these are legitimately people who are way past struggle and are just "under", and that's a really big deal.

It should be seen as akin to alcoholics actively losing organ function, or chain smokers developing lung disease, especially since the habit that causes the degeneration in this case is similar to the causative habits of the aforementioned statuses in that our reward systems are overwhelmed with a level of reward we were never designed or evolved to handle, but is likely to be even more severe in its area because its particular causative habit implicates what is-- anthropologically speaking-- our prime directive.
 
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I don't consider porn protected under the first amendment, but at the same time I don't care that it exists. I love how every draconian law has to be "for the children." Protect your own damn children and don't rely on big daddy government to do it for you. I'm a lax parent. We cuss each other out for fun and I let them consume media that the folks pushing this bill would likely consider degenerate, but I also know everything they do online and off. When they were younger they had extreme parental controls on their devices and now that they are older they just know that daddy could be looking over their shoulder at any moment. I also have to watch my shit because they could be looking over my shoulder at any moment.
and then some of them want kids to be able to vote.
 
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