Careercow Robert Chipman / Bob / Moviebob / "Movieblob" - Middle-Aged Consoomer, CWC with a Thesaurus, Ardent Male Feminist and Superior Futurist, the Twice-Fired, the Mario-Worshipper, publicly dismantled by Hot Dog Girl, now a diabetic

[TowinKarz]

I dunno. Jerry's kind of a Gary Stu. He's beloved and cute despite being a jerk.

That's kind of a recent thing, though. "Classic" T & J kinda had a... Wile E Coyote/Roadrunner relationship, with Jerry as the prey that doesn't really NEED to be captured (Yeah, he's technically a household pest, but is rarely shown hurting anyone/anything ) , thus, Tom's failure to catch him is more of an obsession that can be played for laughs since he, in theory, could stop at any time. We usually don't feel bad when Tom falls in a bear trap/blows his scalp off with a shotgun because he brought it on himself, he didn't have to catch the mouse. Occasionally, Jerry did play the jerk when Tom was given an ultimatum to catch him or else, but, most of the time, the trigger for their fight is him annoying Tom's sleep, or there being an innocent 3rd party that Tom wants for self-serving means, requiring Jerry to play the role of rescuer.....

The reason T & J have never successfully been "modernized" is because the original dynamic is one that, well, is ruined if you add any characterization. And anyone given them just can't help but try to "improve" on them. Even Chuck Jones fell in this trap of trying to do more than the characters give you.

Attempts to translate them to the big screen, or direct-to-video movies, or reboot them as hip "modern" characters have failed time and time again for over 40 years now because they keep trying to give them personality that never existed. Going back to the top, It's like trying to do a 2 hour Road Runner movie... the dynamite and ACME gags can't go on for 2 hours straight, so you'd have to "pad" it with characterization that wouldn't fit with either RR or Wile E.... since they don't have any beyond "stubborn predator fails to catch clearly uncatchable prey"

It's the same reason that Saturday Night Live sketches or characters existing as a bit in Stand-up Comedy don't work as stand-alone movies. There isn't enough "meat" there to stretch out for two hours, 5-7 minutes tops is all they're good for. It's why Larry the Cable Guy utterly failed as a movie-caliber star, he can show up as a bit part, but he can't be THE part.

Same with Tom and Jerry, they cannot carry a feature-length film because five minutes of anvils and custard pies and "Ow-a-wow-a-wah-hoo-hoo!" is all they've got. Accept that and work with it, not against it, and you'd be successful. They'd still be viable as a modern theatrical short, but brain-dead Hollywood can't break it's rigid (and of ever decreasing returns) formula of take-hot-property and put it into this 120 minute pop-culture music-video, no matter how much has to be trimmed off or pulled like Silly Putty to make it reach those tent pegs! And those two aren't even "hot" right now! Who was clamoring for them in the first place?

 

[Ita Mori]

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Lol, fag.

 

[Adamska]

Probably because Jom and Terry is a well established property that did exactly what it always does, like the MCU. Feminist Eragon, on the other hand, is an echo, a contradiction. It's a Disney fairy tale that has been adapted from nothing, paying homage to no nationality.

It also doesn't help that the trailer I saw looked like fucking shit, ripping off heavily from mainly Mulan for set and character designs. It's actually amazing that the woketards didn't scream at the stew of generic stereotyping that was in it, but consoom I guess.

I do know that dragon was obnoxious af in the one trailer I looked at. Also gangsta baby reminds me way too much of Boss Baby of all things.

 

[King Dead]

Just gonna skip most of Bobby's textual diarrhea and focus on this one:

The usual:
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I'd love to see how the "pluralist" LGBTBBQ fight against each other. Ditto for the "pluralist" BIPOCs.

Aside from offering no proof as to why the filibuster is racist (no, Bob, "it just is" is not an argument) and regurgitating CCP propaganda (protip: if China were actually full of scientific genius, they wouldn't need to steal literally everybody else's research), it's hilarious that he doesn't understand that there is literally nothing stopping third parties from existing. If socialists want to go off and start their own far-left party, they can, and they do! Same with far-right, center, single-issue voters, whatever: if you can get some people to rally behind your banner, you can make a political party, no need for strange bedfellows.

The unfortunate truth that Bobby doesn't want to acknowledge is that pretty much all of these third parties just don't garner much in the way of support. Turns out that yeah, fringe ideas really just don't appeal to most people, and if you want to win an election, you need a broad swath of support. Hell, the only reason the Libertarian Party had a single member in Congress last term is because Justin Amash got his feefees hurt by the Bad Orange Man and took his ball and went home; if you're curious, he did not win reelection.

The Founding Fathers set the legislative system up the way they did for a reason, mostly due to seeing the problems of the parliamentary system that Britain had (which is a big reason why the chief executive is separate from the legislature, so that you didn't get bogged down with constant votes of no confidence). Ideally, politics should involve compromises, not just between different major ideological groups but also between factions within those groups. With two major parties encompassing different groups of the political left and right, you'd (ideally) be able to get a wider range of perspectives and find ideas that work across the political spectrum. Third parties are generally too narrow in focus to get the big picture, so they don't really get much done, if they even get elected in the first place.

Big-tent politics might not be the best system out there, but I prefer that to the constant shifts of coalitons in parliamentary governments. But truly, any third party always has the potential to shake things up; the problem is that no third party today can match the broader appeal of the Democrats or the Republicans, or even seems to want to. Bobby thinks that banning the Republican Party will just mean that only leftist thought will prevail and have a say in government because he's a simpleton who can't understand the idea that another party would come to replace them.

 

[TowinKarz]

. Bobby thinks that banning the Republican Party will just mean that only leftist thought will prevail and have a say in government because he's a simpleton who can't understand the idea that another party would come to replace them.

A surprising amount of what drives modern censorship/representation-politics is the honest-to-goodness belief that if you stop talking about Republicans and their ideals, they disappear like fairies that no one believes in anymore. That ideas become impossible to THINK of if you can't get them printed in the papers..... it's amazing how much they've regressed from a logical and academic standpoint, they've traveled so far around the horseshoe from political science to naked partisanship, to dictatorship fantasy to finally the point where they've jumped the gap regressed 2000 years, and now they think the modern world is somehow magic.... and you can make something disappear by preventing people from learning the "spell" that summons it... I guess?

 

[Positron]

It is curious Bobby never talk with Chris about capeshit on Twitter. It's always with either Chu-chu or one of the troons, especially Luke.

 

[Mr Snek]

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It is curious Bobby never talk with Chris about capeshit on Twitter. It's always with either Chu-chu or one of the troons, especially Luke.

This is less about Bob and Chris and more about MCU fans as a whole, but they really seem to be incapable of accepting that Endgame wasn't a good movie. And this is coming from someone who mostly enjoyed the MCU and especially Infinity War. Infinity War felt like a natural ending to that part of the story, where as Endgame was like the writers suddenly remembered that the good guys were supposed to win and had to wrap everything up in like 2 hours with no planning.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

This is less about Bob and Chris and more about MCU fans as a whole, but they really seem to be incapable of accepting that Endgame wasn't a good movie. And this is coming from someone who mostly enjoyed the MCU and especially Infinity War. Infinity War felt like a natural ending to that part of the story, where as Endgame was like the writers suddenly remembered that the good guys were supposed to win and had to wrap everything up in like 2 hours with no planning.

And have strong character moments, hence the weird diversion into the 1970s.

 

[Tronathon242]

Lol, fag.

That's not a real vagina. But Bob wouldn't mind getting into it if he could, the standardless desperate prick that he is.

Big-tent politics might not be the best system out there, but I prefer that to the constant shifts of coalitons in parliamentary governments. But truly, any third party always has the potential to shake things up; the problem is that no third party today can match the broader appeal of the Democrats or the Republicans, or even seems to want to. Bobby thinks that banning the Republican Party will just mean that only leftist thought will prevail and have a say in government because he's a simpleton who can't understand the idea that another party would come to replace them.

Bobert knows full well that getting rid of the GOP won't end Right-Wing thought in the United States. That's why he wants to emulate the CCP and crush all those who vote that way. The American democracy can be truly "superior."

 

[Marshal Mannerheim]

Whereas people who never thought themselves too haughty will not have made so many enemies that they don't have a social network to fall back on.

One of the main differences between Bob and Christianity is humility. At the core of Jesus' teachings is the idea that ”whoever exalts himself will be humbled; but whoever humbles himself will be exalted” (Matthew 23:12) whereas for Bob, pride and haughtiness are virtues that built the world.

Thus ANY blowback to the artists by the customers is a complete affront. It's as much heresy to his religion as dissing Mary to @Marshal Mannerheim's face would be.

There's a reason I said that Bob's attacks on Christianity were fuelled by religious bigotry as opposed to atheism; neoliberalism's stance towards infidels makes the Religion of Peace look tolerant.

It's so cute that you think there's going to be fair elections free of cheating in 2024

I'm entitled to be at least a bit optimistic.

That said, given how the Dems treated Bernie last year I doubt anyone who challenges God-Empress Kamala will be able to do so fairly.

Lol, fag.

It's worth noting that the only women that respond to Bob are men.

Bobert knows full well that getting rid of the GOP won't end Right-Wing thought in the United States. That's why he wants to emulate the CCP and crush all those who vote that way. The American democracy can be truly "superior."

What Bob fails to realise is two things:
1) you're not going to persuade the soyboys and 40 year old white women who support neoliberalism to ”crush” the GOP in any way other than tweeting about it, so you'll need to work with the evil ”dirtbag left” to do so.
2) centrists who embolden people to the left of them inevitably get turned on, and if Bob thinks he can control the leftists he'll need for that he's mistaken.
Case in point - Nancy Pelosi supported the left in the 2018 primaries because she thought she could control them. They chose to thank her by protesting in her office two weeks after the election. It's generally not a good idea to build a golem unless you know how to turn it off.
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Apologies for this next bit being incredibly long but our very own Virgin with Rage has delivered a bumper crop of autistic screeching.

You need to elaborate for those of us who don't watch capeshit.

Bob watched The Boys. One of the characters in The Boys is very obviously meant to be AOC, and anyone who reads this thread knows about his parasocial relationship with her.

I'm surprised to learn that an ex-prostitute ”singing” about sex is more empowering for black people than black-owned businesses growing or, heck, the fact that America had a black president quite recently.

On the topic of blacks and Kino Roberto:

If you don't believe that all white people are inherently racist, you should hide yourself in deep sea.

The majority of whites do not hate blacks. If they did, people would be being cancelled for actually holding racist opinions as opposed to saying ”nigger” once in school.

The idea of a black elite disturbs the racist ass of Bobby and co. so much that they try the hardest to deny it.

”saying that black people can be elitist is literally the same as burning black businesses down”

If Blob seriously thinks melanin and elitism are incompatible, he is welcome to take a trip to the democratic paradise of Somalia, which is such a successful country that its top export is refugees.

> seems like you could stand to read some more [books]

Does Brick by Brick count?

”people sometimes have to be protected from themselves” is an authoritarian principle, not a leftist principle. I'm an authright, and I think that people do need to be protected from things which could damage the moral health of society. Libertarian leftists would not support nanny state measures like this.

Bobby and co. think he is stupid, evil and subhuman:

You know you're on the right side of history when you attack people for praying.

True evil does delight in suffering for its own sake; for instance, the suffering of mayo ghouls at the hands of globalism.

Anyone who puts raised fists, rainbow flags or statements about wearing a mask in his Twitter handle has given up his right to be taken seriously.

The usual:

Abolishing the filibuster is a brilliant way to lose any form of enviromental protections, legalised abortion and universal healthcare if the Republicans win in '24.

Popper's paradox (that is, ”an open society cannot tolerate intolerance”) does not refer to intolerant ideas but to organisations which start political violence against others. To quote the man himself:

I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be most unwise.

”Love your enemies” - the Revd. Martin Luther King Jr, quoting the Gospel of St Matthew.
”you're an asshole who hates me - why should I help you?” - Robert ”Moviebob” Chipman, quoting his own genocidal self.

Pedophile defend force. Chu-chu thinks no one gives a damn about teenagers getting tattoos, ergo no one should mind if teenagers get castrated.

If a fourteen year old cannot legally drink alcohol, smoke cigarettes, gamble in a betting shop, drive a car or have sex because he can't understand the consequences, why should that fourteen year old be allowed to troon out?

 

[ChampFantana]

There really is something incredibly funny about a retard with a galaxy-sized ego and a quark-sized brain telling others to read more books when he himself only skims Wikipedia. I really need to learn to stop underestimating Bobert's stupidity.

 

[Product Placement]

Probably because Jom and Terry is a well established property that did exactly what it always does, like the MCU. Feminist Eragon, on the other hand, is an echo, a contradiction. It's a Disney fairy tale that has been adapted from nothing, paying homage to no nationality.

Hate to say you are wrong but Disney didn't have a deal set in place with many cinema chains meaning it screened on far less screens that's why it did worse on it's opening weekend.

 

[Ecto-1A]

Probably because Jom and Terry is a well established property that did exactly what it always does, like the MCU. Feminist Eragon, on the other hand, is an echo, a contradiction. It's a Disney fairy tale that has been adapted from nothing, paying homage to no nationality.

Not to mention that Tom and Jerry has universal appeal, and doesn't have an agenda.

 

[The Valeyard]

More Snyder Cut griefing:

 

[AirdropShitposts]

Does he not know how to spell "wolf"? One time I could see as a typo, but he did it three times. Or is this some kind of gag?

 

[The Valeyard]

Does he not know how to spell "wolf"? One time I could see as a typo, but he did it three times. Or is this some kind of gag?

I think he's assuming that it was spelt differently to the band of the same name despite claiming to be knowledgeable about comic books.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

Does he not know how to spell "wolf"? One time I could see as a typo, but he did it three times. Or is this some kind of gag?

I think he looked up "Steppenwolf," found the German book of the same name, and decided to show how "Superior" he is by trying to call it by (what he thinks is) the original German name.

Never mind that even in the original German it was spelled "Der Steppenwolf."

 

[Quixotic Man]

Bob loves making assumptions that he thinks are smart, but ultimately make him look dumb.

Surprised he didn't write it "Steppenwülf."

 

[Oliver Onions]

Is he angry because BlackWidow is getting pushed back and he can't jerk it now? Is he angry because they didn't push it back far enough because the coof still exists and this will kill the theaters I mean people?

https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1374433895194628098

https://archive.ph/hMDyw

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Everyone else has already picked apart most of Bobby's statement, I just want to point out the stunning hubris of him saying 'wrong decision' as if he understands the inner workings of the business better than the people who get paid millions to oversee and ship these projects.

NATO is the National Association of Theater Owners. They are a trade group that does things like lobby against soda taxes, advertise how the movie ratings system works, issue PR statements about whether theaters are safe from mass shootings, etc.

Have they ever considered a name change? Because that's even more confusing than when there were two WWFs.

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what a CONSERVATIVE whining about the SUPERIOR FUTURE

Streaming services have put out some of the best TV and movies in the last decade --even Disney+ is responsible for Wandavision which you can't stop creaming your pants over-- so what the fuck are you talking about Bobby?

This is some of the worst world salad I've seen him write. How exactly does the old model of theatres 'elevate creators, artists and adjacent labor into positions they need to occupy for the work to be worthwhile and maintain quality' when almost nothing gets into cinemas anymore unless it's a bombastic, over-the-top CG-riddled nightmare.

Hollywood is notorious for how studios constantly second-guess, micro-manage and strangle the creativity out of creators which is why so many leave to make projects elsewhere...like streaming services. If Netflix is good enough for Martin Scorcese, it should be good enough for you you bloated bag of fuck.

It's really just him saying 'what are the thousands of CG artists going to do without capeshit blockbusters to make big fights for?'

 

[The Valeyard]

Hollywood is notorious for how studios constantly second-guess, micro-manage and strangle the creativity out of creators which is why so many leave to make projects elsewhere...like streaming services. If Netflix is good enough for Martin Scorcese, it should be good enough for you you bloated bag of fuck.

Martin Scorsese dared to say that Marvel capeshit isn't cinema so Bob would disregard his opinions.

It's really just him saying 'what are the thousands of CG artists going to do without capeshit blockbusters to make big fights for?'

He also wants to defend the theatre employees as they are the only "working class" that he cares about.