Cultcow Russell Greer / Mr. Green / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

[Cryin RN]

He can seek statutory damages regardless of actual damages because, if I remember correctly, he filed a copyright for the song in question prior to infringement.

Is he likely to get this if jurisdiction isn't proven? Russell no longer lives in Utah, and Josh definitely doesn't, so does the judge even need to get that far?

 

[DrJonesHat]

After reading Rissells book and hearing Nick read chapters,How on earth has not a deranged Taylor Swift fan hunted down Russtard? " But it's not a date" kills me.

Especially since in his early posts about the first lawsuit he says he's suing so TS has to come to Utah and go to dinner with him. He's as transparent as a pane of glass.

Is he likely to get this if jurisdiction isn't proven? Russell no longer lives in Utah, and Josh definitely doesn't, so does the judge even need to get that far?

Even if the suit gets tossed due to jurisdictional issues, can't Russ just refile in Nevada?

 

[The Un-Clit]

Especially since in his early posts about the first lawsuit he says he's suing so TS has to come to Utah and go to dinner with him. He's as transparent as a pane of glass.

Even if the suit gets tossed due to jurisdictional issues, can't Russ just refile in Nevada?

I think the point is the same. if I recall what Rackets said properly, it dosen't matter what state he files from, none of them have jurisdiction over the Farms as the farms dosen't operate from any U.S. state (except maybe Florida?)

 

[moorhen]

Gonna have to disagree a bit there. While it's nice to think all Kiwis obey the no neghole pozzing policy, we know it simply isn't the case, with xyrichard being the obvious example. It's possible a lot of the people who spam his inbox with dumb shit come from Reddit and other sites where he's become internet famous, but we know for a fact at least one - and likely more - have come from here with their dumb trolling plans.

Russ is a well-known cow at this point, when he talks about harassment, he's usually talking about dumb people on their actual personal socials DMing him to call him an incel, as well as the few catfish he managed to figure out were catfish.

He's been at the top of r/all multiple times and every time he's there, there are multiple people in the comments who have a vast knowledge of who he is and are very willing to share it with whoever asks, which would contribute to his "harrassment" far more than we ever could, and yet he's not suing spez for allowing reddit to harrass him.
For every absolute spastic from here who decides cowtipping is their new favourite hobby, there's ten more fail trolls from reddit.

 

[Iron Hamster]

I don't get the joke, Russ.

[Heilbut's parents] had advised officers that they do not feel safe staying in there[sic] house due to their son suffering from mental illnesses. [The father] told officers that his son is suffering from drug induced psychosis, mental psychosis, or a combination of both. [The father] told officers that he does not want his son staying at his house."

https://kutv.com/news/local/man-steals-little-caesars-pizza-and-breadsticks-leading-to-high-speed-chase-all-over-orem

 

[Sabrina]

He's been at the top of r/all multiple times and every time he's there, there are multiple people in the comments who have a vast knowledge of who he is and are very willing to share it with whoever asks, which would contribute to his "harrassment" far more than we ever could, and yet he's not suing spez for allowing reddit to harrass him.
For every absolute spastic from here who decides cowtipping is their new favourite hobby, there's ten more fail trolls from reddit.

So the point stands that there's no way to prove that KF is specifically trolling him. The only way to find out is to match IP addresses with times and dates (which is pretty much impossible to do in a definitive way where law enforcement can positively say that this person posted both this and that; everyone on a given WiFi network will have the same external IP at the same time, though there are other factors such as browser info). Let's just say law enforcement doesn't put in that much effort unless the charges are Extremely Illegal, and in this case no one is doing anything even a little bit illegal so the subpoenas will never get signed by a judge in the first place. None of the "trolling plans" are being posted here and even if they were it still isn't illegal to say mean things to someone else. If someone specifically threatened him giving times, dates, location and talked about weapons etc, that could be considered a credible threat. But absolutely no one is doing that and if anything posted on KF were actionable then his vague threats to smash our faces in or whatever would also be actionable, and they're not.

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

Is he likely to get this if jurisdiction isn't proven? Russell no longer lives in Utah, and Josh definitely doesn't, so does the judge even need to get that far?

No, he has to get past all the technical questions first. But jurisdiction only cares for where the alleged damages occurred (ed: or were perpetrated from) at the time, so it doesn't really matter that he moved after he filed the case.

 

[StraightShooter2]

Looks like he's purposely setting stuff up such as that Spotify account just to pretend that he was some "established artist" and that the "trolling" from KF harmed his ability to make money off of his crappy music.

Problem though is that the court has a history of his online postings, they're going to see that he purposely set up that account just before he attempted to file a lawsuit; it's possible he'll be busted for filing a bad faith lawsuit like he did during the Ariana Grande case (when the court dug up his online postings and saw that his story completely changed when it was convenient for him).

 

[The Great Citracett]

Incoming 1-star review!

 

[Constellationzero]

Yeah, butternut definitely was discussed on 4chan and Encyclopedia Dramatica--both with an entry and on the forums. He'd have to prove who w*eened and from where. For all I know (I don't) he may have been laughed at over on SA or LiveJournal or a bunch of other places. There are other Youtubers who have covered his antics too.

So now another judge might have to give shitlips the 30 second rundown on how he can only control himself. He cannot control the actions of other people.

 

[Polexia Aphrodisia]

Incoming 1-star review!

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If it didn't cover up the only thing Russell is convinced turns the ladies away, he would absolutely never wear a mask. He's wearing a mask to cover his drooly ratmouth maw. Too bad he still looks visibly defected.

 

[AnOminous]

Remember when he thought TS had defaulted and he was automatically going to get $100 million? That was funny. @AnOminous explained that even if she did default (she didn't), he'd still have to prove damages. Even if Null doesn't respond (he will, he knows how lawsuits work), Russ would have to prove he was harmed by the posting of his book, which he wasn't, because we're not the audience his book was intended for.

A plaintiff can ask for statutory damages for infringement instead of actually proving damages. These range from $750-$35,000 for normal infringement, to as high as $150,000 for willful infringement. He'd also have to show the rules for vicarious liability are met. It isn't automatic. The DMCA creates a safe harbor if the ISP complies with a takedown notification, but it doesn't actually impose any new liability that wouldn't have existed prior to the DMCA, at least not for vicarious infringement.

While it's nice to think all Kiwis obey the no neghole pozzing policy, we know it simply isn't the case, with xyrichard being the obvious example.

And he was banned for that, among other things.

 

[Constellationzero]

He probably shouldn't wear a mask anyway because wearing one still won't cover the following:

* Being completely soaked (Re-check that DankNet video where you can see his purple shirt).
* Yellowing in no time flat unless he wears black masks only.
* The smell reminiscent of (insert rotting thing here).

And don't forget the sex offender mouth breathing coupled with his waxen, greasy face and those soulless eyes plucked straight out of Herbert West's laboratory.

 

[lamp shade]

Incoming 1-star review!

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“And yes, I dutifully wear a mask.”

And we are all thankful for that.

 

[The Great Citracett]

“And yes, I dutifully wear a mask.”

And we are all thankful for that.

In fact, he endorses it!

Edited to add a disclaimer, so nobody can sue him for "failure to warn" or whatever.


His friend however, is a Karen.


I'm sure if the two random guys got in a fight, the first thing they'd do is dash over and beat the shit out of Russ for some reason.

He's always the victim somehow.

 

[lamp shade]

In fact, he endorses it!

Edited to add a disclaimer, so nobody can sue him for "failure to warn" or whatever.

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His friend however, is a Karen.
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I'm sure if the two random guys got in a fight, the first thing they'd do is dash over and beat the shit out of Russ for some reason.

He's always the victim somehow.

Based on how Russ exaggerates any story he ever tells, I think we can assume what actually happened was a guy walked in without a mask so another shopper reminded him to wear one and he did.

 

[Spasticus Autisticus]

"yelling in loud decibels" -- one more to add to russisms.txt

 

[SquishSquish]

Based on how Russ exaggerates any story he ever tells, I think we can assume what actually happened was a guy walked in without a mask so another shopper reminded him to wear one and he did.

Normally I’d definitely agree but this has become somewhat of a “common” occurrence so I’m like 80/20 on this being true

 

[Huldymian]

So the point stands that there's no way to prove that KF is specifically trolling him. The only way to find out is to match IP addresses with times and dates (which is pretty much impossible to do in a definitive way where law enforcement can positively say that this person posted both this and that; everyone on a given WiFi network will have the same external IP at the same time, though there are other factors such as browser info). Let's just say law enforcement doesn't put in that much effort unless the charges are Extremely Illegal, and in this case no one is doing anything even a little bit illegal so the subpoenas will never get signed by a judge in the first place. None of the "trolling plans" are being posted here and even if they were it still isn't illegal to say mean things to someone else. If someone specifically threatened him giving times, dates, location and talked about weapons etc, that could be considered a credible threat. But absolutely no one is doing that and if anything posted on KF were actionable then his vague threats to smash our faces in or whatever would also be actionable, and they're not.

They're gonna tell him the same thing they tell every other "harassment victim" which is get off the god damn internet. Nobody told him to make a retarded spectacle of himself publicly for 5 fucking years, he did that shit himself.

Plus, LE has access to history, imagine how many times this retard has called 911? Theyre not gonna lift a finger for a paranoid schizo who is addicted to the internet at his own detriment. They'll tell him the same thing they tell tweaked out stacies strung out on meth who are paranoid about people following them, "I'll look right into that"

 

[The Dude]

Russhole has no hope of winning this suit. For one thing, he has provided zero proof to support his claims, such as the negative reviews on his book and songs. At most all he proved was that some of the people who left those reviews are aware of this thread because they left links to it in their reviews. That doesn't prove that they were members of the forum.

And the State of Utah has no jurisdiction over Josh. He's never lived in Utah, doesn't own property or a business in Utah, and as far as I know he's never even been within the borders of the State of Utah. Just because the site is accessible in the State of Utah does not give the State jurisdiction over Null.

Russ also never provided any proof that Null has targeted Russ or personally engaged in harassing him. He's posted Russhole's emails to the forums for the purpose of mockery and discussion, but that is not harassment. Saying mean things or allowing people to say mean things is not harassment in the legal definition.

And Josh is NOT legally culpable or responsible in any way for the members of his forum. Even the forum members who straight out say "I'm doing this to hinder Russell Greer's ability to make money on X or have a relationship with Y" are not Null's legal responsibility. Each member is personally responsible for what they say on the site and do off the site, not Null.

And finally, I don't believe anything of Russhole's is actually hosted on Kiwi Farms. It isn't like the video that dumbass in New Zealand made when he shot up the church. As far as I'm aware all the songs and books Russ has made were all hosted on different sites and merely links to those sites were posted in the thread. Josh has even told this to Russ and helpfully informed him that he needs to DMCA those sites if he wants his shit taken down, but Russ ignored him.

Josh should be able to get this frivolous bullshit lolsuit tossed out by writing the judge and saying "Utah has no jurisdiction over me. I've never lived there, don't own property there, and I don't do business there. I'm not responsible for the words or actions of the people who use my website. The copywrited materials the plaintiff refers to are not hosted on my website, so he needs to file his DMCA to the sites where they are hosted. The plaintiff ignored my help when I informed him of these. Here are the transcripts from the correspondences between myself and the plaintiff when I informed him the materials were hosted elsewhere and where to send his DMCA requests. The plaintiff has a long, documented history of filing frivolous lawsuits against anyone he doesn't like. Here are printouts of all the people he has tried to bully through the courts, along with a section of his own book where he previously claimed it was fans of Taylor Swift who were all conspiring against him. The plaintiff has also lied in his own legal filings regarding his recent criminal conviction in the City of Orem, UT and the nature of the situation leading up to his conviction. Here is the case number for that suit for you to reference. I request that this lawsuit be dismissed on the grounds of lack of jurisdiction, no proof of damages, and the plaintiff lying in his own filings. Sincerely, Joshua Moon"