Trainwreck The Empathic Nutritionist / Empathic Mamahood / Robyn Grogitsky-Ramirez / Luna Elva Ramirez / Glenn Ramirez / Atlas Glenn Standford Ramirez - Eyefucking Sociopath Selfie Addict Mother and Closeted Gymrat Pothead Father who use Instagram to Parade their Homemade Homunculus Tard Baby Created by their Refusal to Follow any Medical Oversights

[Instant_Pot_User]

It's time for another round of stupid people she follows (THIS is one of her sources for medical advice):

Meet "Dr. Elana Roumell, ND" who isn't a doctor but she plays one on instagram.

Let's look at her credentials or lack there of:

• Founder, Nourish Medical Center The leading Naturopathic Medical Clinic in San Diego, CA
• Licensed by the State of California Naturopathic Medicine Committee
• Residency, Family Medicine at University of Bridgeport Naturopathic Medical Center
• Doctor of Naturopathic Medicine with High Academic Achievement, Southwest College of Naturopathic Medicine
• Bachelor of Science in Whole Foods Nutrition & Health Psychology, Bastyr University
• Advanced Classical Homeopathy Training, The Canadian Academy of Homeopathy
• Professor of Masters Nutrition Courses, The University of Bridgeport Masters of Science Human Nutrition

Member of:

• California Naturopathic Doctors Association
• Pediatric Association of Naturopathic Physicians
• National Center for Homeopathy

Yep...Not a real doctor, but if her name says Dr. before it people will just beleive shes one!


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"For 6 months or less, herbal medicine isn’t the safest route, and most types of health food supplements aren’t either. However, homeopathy is very safe and that’s the number one type of natural medicine I recommend for 0-6 months.⁣"
"Kids get sick, it's inevitable. It is not a matter of IF rather, WHEN! Even the healthiest of children will catch a cold at some point and as “Doctor Moms” I love to teach you how to be prepared and well-equipped!⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
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Here is a list of 5 natural medicines I want EVERY “Doctor Mom" to know. ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
1. Homeopathic Belladonna: When your child’s fever comes on suddenly and your child’s face is red think of Belladona which can accelerate the healing process. Within 15 minutes you may see a decrease in your child’s temperature and irritability. ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
2. Homeopathic Chamomilla: When your child is inconsolable and nothing seems to make him or her better, think of Chamomilla. Most often these kids are teething or experiencing unexplained discomfort. Within 15 minutes you may see your child calm down and comfortable.⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
3. Homeopathic Arnica: When your child takes a fall that may cause bruising or pain, think of Arnica. Within a few minutes, you may see your child go from tears to a big smile asking for more Arnica! ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
4. Elderberry: When your child is showing any early signs of runny nose, cough, earache…. or you name it… think of Elderberry. This is an herb that fights viruses and the earlier you start the more effective. Within days you may see your child avoid an illness all together!⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
5. Vitamin D3: A nutrient EVERY child should be taking from day 1 of life. If mama is nursing she can safely take 6400IU per day which provides enough for her needs and babies. If given directly to baby, safe amounts are 400-800IU for children under 12 months. Vitamin D helps prevent illnesses and is best with daily use over time. ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
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Want to learn more? Visit my website at www.medschoolformoms.com to see all of my favorites!⠀Love teaching you mamas!"

From the FDA:
"Do not give belladonna to a child without medical advice.
Belladonna can cause serious side effects in babies or young children, including constipation, breathing problems, agitation, and seizures."
"The U.S. Food and Drug Administration announced today that its laboratory analysis found inconsistent amounts of belladonna, a toxic substance, in certain homeopathic teething tablets, sometimes far exceeding the amount claimed on the label. The agency is warning consumers that homeopathic teething tablets containing belladonna pose an unnecessary risk to infants and children and urges consumers not to use these products."
"Arnica : If eaten, the actual herb is toxic to the liver and can be fatal."

She has her own fake pharmacy:
"Med School for Moms uses an online store called Fullscript where you can order our recommended medicine products to be shipped to your home. "
To get dosage information your required to buy her $37 book.

As mentioned before she has stated to give children belladonna and arnica. Add to this we have:
Pulsatilla : a toxic plant. Misuse can lead to diarrhea, vomiting and convulsions, hypotension, and coma.
Arsenicum Album : If made wrong it is pure arsenic.

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She offers 4 courses: Mindset $147, Medicine $247, Mastery $347 & Vaccines $247.
Vaccine Course gives you : "A comprehensive pre and post detox vaccine protocol she shares with every patient, including dosing starting at 2 months of age "


Oh my she even has a disclaimer! Seven Page Disclaimer
"I am not, nor am I holding myself out to be a doctor/physician, nurse, physician’s assistant, advance practice nurse, or any other medical professional (“Medical Provider”), psychiatrist, psychologist, therapist, counselor, or social worker (“Mental Health Provider”), registered dietician or licensed nutritionist, or member of the clergy. "

Well thats interesting....she says shes Dr. Elena....

Awww....Someone doesn't know how the internet works....

"You must receive our written permission before using any of our Website Content for your own business use or before sharing with others."

Arnica gel works well for bruises and muscle soreness and chamomile calms you down. Belladonna on the other hand, is fucking toxic.
Edit:

Re: "Naturopathic doctors"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturopathy#Practitioners

https://www.calnd.org/scope-of-practice

California naturopathic licensure requires (1) proof of having graduated from one of the four-year accredited naturopathic medical colleges, (2) a passing NPLEX score, (3) completion and submission of application for California licensure, which may be obtained from the Bureau of Naturopathic Medicine in Sacramento, CA. Licensure does not currently require passage of California specific board exams. Residencies are not a current requirement.


Godfuckingdamn I hate this state. I wish I could leave.

Edit: Schedule II drugs also include most opiate pain medications as well as stimulant ADHD drugs like Adderall and Ritalin. But the way they're intimating that the drugs they can't prescribe are OMG ILLEGAL ANYWAY is hilarious.

So if my local Midew decides to get certified as a 'naturopath', he can prescribe me ibuprofen and strong yarrow tea? Based.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Arnica gel works well for bruises and muscle soreness and chamomile calms you down. Belladonna on the other hand, is fucking toxic.

Ahh. It was in a liquid vial seemed it was to be taken orally, but she paywalled all info on HOW to use the medications. Just said dosages were in millileters which to me means orally.

 

[Instant_Pot_User]

Ahh. It was in a liquid vial seemed it was to be taken orally, but she paywalled all info on HOW to use the medications. Just said dosages were in millileters which to me means orally.

What the fuck? I've never heard of drinking arnica for bruises or muscle soreness. Surely she means to direct people to apply the oil topically!

 

[GenociderSyo]

What the fuck? I've never heard of drinking arnica for bruises or muscle soreness. Surely she means to direct people to apply the oil topically!

Made an account on her pharmacy to get info:

She advices to use Clark's rule for under 2 years old:

Arnica montana is available in a multi-dose tube, with approx. 80 pellets. Arnica montana 3X to 30X - 3C to 30C HPUS
Adult and children 2 years of age and older: Dissolve 5 pellets under the tongue 3 times a day until relieved or as directed by a doctor.
Infant: 1 to 2 tablets.

Belladonna is available in a multi-dose tube, with approx. 80 pellets.
Adult and children 2 years of age and older: Dissolve 5 pellets under the tongue 3 times a day until relieved or as directed by a doctor.
Infant: 1 to 2 tablets.

Arsenicum album is available in a multi-dose tube, with approx. 80 pellets.
Adult and children 2 years of age and older: Dissolve 5 pellets under the tongue 3 times a day until relieved or as directed by a doctor.
Infant: 1 to 2 tablets.

So yes this is all oral medications. She is telling people to poison themselves.....

 

[SmokeyMcRunFast]

Re: "Naturopathic doctors"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturopathy#Practitioners

https://www.calnd.org/scope-of-practice

California naturopathic licensure requires (1) proof of having graduated from one of the four-year accredited naturopathic medical colleges, (2) a passing NPLEX score, (3) completion and submission of application for California licensure, which may be obtained from the Bureau of Naturopathic Medicine in Sacramento, CA. Licensure does not currently require passage of California specific board exams. Residencies are not a current requirement.


Godfuckingdamn I hate this state. I wish I could leave.

Edit: Schedule II drugs also include most opiate pain medications as well as stimulant ADHD drugs like Adderall and Ritalin. But the way they're intimating that the drugs they can't prescribe are OMG ILLEGAL ANYWAY is hilarious.

Jesus. I work in the engineering field and the words professional engineer cannot be anywhere near your title or any advertisement material. The state will VERY quickly shut you down. It’s one of the few limits on free speech in America. How the fuck are these quacks able to hold themselves out as doctors.

 

[Miss Misery]

Jesus. I work in the engineering field and the words professional engineer cannot be anywhere near your title or any advertisement material. The state will VERY quickly shut you down. It’s one of the few limits on free speech in America. How the fuck are these quacks able to hold themselves out as doctors.

It's fucking appalling. They can call themselves "doctor" with a FOUR-YEAR DEGREE in fucking WOO (and note there are tons of people who sperg about those with doctorates calling themselves doctor - which is perfectly cromulent thanks). They're allowed to DIAGNOSE and prescribe meds schedule III and under. With a BACHELORS DEGREE IN BULLSHIT.

I know that naturopaths can sometimes get confused with osteopaths but the best PCP I've ever had was a DO and osteopaths are actual doctors. Naturopaths are con artists - much like Robyn herself being a "nutritionist" which is a title that requires no accreditation. If you want nutritional advice? Go to a REGISTERED DIETITIAN.

Made an account on her pharmacy to get info:

She advices to use Clark's rule for under 2 years old:

Arnica montana is available in a multi-dose tube, with approx. 80 pellets. Arnica montana 3X to 30X - 3C to 30C HPUS
Adult and children 2 years of age and older: Dissolve 5 pellets under the tongue 3 times a day until relieved or as directed by a doctor.
Infant: 1 to 2 tablets.

Belladonna is available in a multi-dose tube, with approx. 80 pellets.
Adult and children 2 years of age and older: Dissolve 5 pellets under the tongue 3 times a day until relieved or as directed by a doctor.
Infant: 1 to 2 tablets.

Arsenicum album is available in a multi-dose tube, with approx. 80 pellets.
Adult and children 2 years of age and older: Dissolve 5 pellets under the tongue 3 times a day until relieved or as directed by a doctor.
Infant: 1 to 2 tablets.

So yes this is all oral medications. She is telling people to poison themselves.....

The word "pellet" is telling. It's homeopathy bullshit.

Edit: The "dosages" are in HPUS, which is a homeopathy thing. AKA complete and total nonsense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathic_dilutions

So if my local Midew decides to get certified as a 'naturopath', he can prescribe me ibuprofen and strong yarrow tea? Based.

I would trust any mide over a naturopath, ojiwaaman.

 

[booklover]

My family doctor is a DO, and a darned good one, too.

I really enjoyed Dr. Paul Thomas' You Tube channel, and it's a tragedy that he's been shut down. I had not read his book and didn't know until I heard about him losing his license that it's actually an anti-vaccine screed. I should see if my local library has it, because I'm curious. He really has a great rapport with kids and parents; if only he wasn't anti-vax! The Oregon medical board on him is a doozy.

https://omb.oregon.gov/Clients/ORMB/OrderDocuments/e579dd35-7e1b-471f-a69a-3a800317ed4c.pdf

 

[Kosher Salt]

Jesus. I work in the engineering field and the words professional engineer cannot be anywhere near your title or any advertisement material. The state will VERY quickly shut you down. It’s one of the few limits on free speech in America. How the fuck are these quacks able to hold themselves out as doctors.

Because "Doctor" is a type of degree issued by a university, not a medical title.

They probably can't call themselves a "medical doctor" but they can get away with damn near anything else, apparently. I'm honestly surprised that selling things that are advertised and labeled as "medicine" and "recommending medicine" isn't crossing a line, but hey, we wouldn't want to interfere with a kook's right to tell people to poison themselves...

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

Robyn’s only concern is her “followers” finding other sources of information about her and discovering her woo-home birth nonsense is the reason her daughter is dying and has a massive bloated head.

Basically it’s a lot harder to shill her bullshit if everyone realizes her daughter is so fucked up precisely because of her woo. She wants to use her poor daughter as a way to shill woo not be a shinning example of why to avoid it at all costs.

 

[Allo Vera]

Made an account on her pharmacy to get info:

She advices to use Clark's rule for under 2 years old:

Arnica montana is available in a multi-dose tube, with approx. 80 pellets. Arnica montana 3X to 30X - 3C to 30C HPUS
Adult and children 2 years of age and older: Dissolve 5 pellets under the tongue 3 times a day until relieved or as directed by a doctor.
Infant: 1 to 2 tablets.

Belladonna is available in a multi-dose tube, with approx. 80 pellets.
Adult and children 2 years of age and older: Dissolve 5 pellets under the tongue 3 times a day until relieved or as directed by a doctor.
Infant: 1 to 2 tablets.

Arsenicum album is available in a multi-dose tube, with approx. 80 pellets.
Adult and children 2 years of age and older: Dissolve 5 pellets under the tongue 3 times a day until relieved or as directed by a doctor.
Infant: 1 to 2 tablets.

So yes this is all oral medications. She is telling people to poison themselves.....

Thankfully, she really isn’t telling people to poison themselves. She’s telling them to use homeopathic belladonna, etc.

Homeopathy works on the principle that water has memory. You take an ingredient and dilute it, and dilute it, and dilute it, until not a single molecule of the original substance remains. That’s homeopathy. Magic water. Or in the case of homeopathic pellets that dissolve under the tongue, magic sugar pills. That’s all it is.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Water..has,,,memory....
That didn't go too well for Elsa.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

Yes, because the biggest cause for concern to Luna's ophthalmic health is UV rays, and not the fact that she literally, physically cannot close her eyes. Priorities.

It's also very likely that she's cortically blind. Her vision isn't going to be hurt by the sun being in her eyes. She can't even squint.

I guess even blind people should be aware of the possibility of developing ocular melanoma from UV exposure. There aren't really any "good" kinds of cancer, but ocular melanoma is particularly bad for two reasons: because malignant changes inside the eyeball itself or within surrounding structures such as the retina usually cannot be visualized without specialized equipment, so the cancer is generally very advanced by the time it is detected, and because the optic nerve is like a superhighway on which cancerous cells can travel directly to the skull, brain, and spine. Once melanoma takes up residence in your brain, you're pretty much toast. I will eat my hat if the Empathic Nutritionist knows that one can get melanoma in the eyes. It's all moot anyway, because Luna isn't going to survive long enough to develop any kind of cancer, whether from UV exposure or anything else.

 

[booklover]

100% of the people who call themselves 'empaths' are batshit insane. There are no exceptions.

I know a woman who is a self-described empath. She has major depression.

Nice person with a lot of potential, and she's just blowing it by not having it treated.

 

[palmtreesalad]

People really do take these woo doctors seriously. People will turn down life saving treatment and go to these nut jobs instead. I obviously can't power level too much on here but my doctor has had a patient die because their family tried to cure his (highly treatable) condition using woo.

Thankfully, she really isn’t telling people to poison themselves. She’s telling them to use homeopathic belladonna, etc.

Homeopathy works on the principle that water has memory. You take an ingredient and dilute it, and dilute it, and dilute it, until not a single molecule of the original substance remains. That’s homeopathy. Magic water. Or in the case of homeopathic pellets that dissolve under the tongue, magic sugar pills. That’s all it is.

Yup, that's pretty much what all "homeopathic pills" you can find at the pharmacy are at all. Even most cheap vitamins are the same way. Barely anything to benefit you, but at least not enough to hurt you. Placebo effect can be strong so people will believe it anyway

 

[pixel_lion]

Doesn't belladonna get you high as balls? Like watching your walls bleed as your dead grandma yells at you, high as balls?

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

Doesn't belladonna get you high as balls? Like watching your walls bleed as your dead grandma yells at you, high as balls?

It can cause delirium and hallucinations, but more significantly, it doesn't take very much to actually fucking kill you.

It is in the same family and shares psychoactive compounds with datura (jimsonweed), which is one of those "not even once" drugs.

 

[GenociderSyo]

The fact they are probly sugar pills is good and all, but remember these people just think belladonna good. You can purchase belladonna seeds on amazon...it's not a very far stretch for them to jump to their OWN instead of buying pills.

Someone's sister at least seems a bit more logical about it all. This is the only post shes ever made about Luna:

 

[tacosauces]

People really do take these woo doctors seriously. People will turn down life saving treatment and go to these nut jobs instead. I obviously can't power level too much on here but my doctor has had a patient die because their family tried to cure his (highly treatable) condition using woo.

Notice how many rich people fall for this too? Case in point: Steve Jobs.

 

[Hongourable Madisha]

It's also called "deadly nightshade", and you can find it in the wild in a lot of the world. One of the first things parents used to tell kids not to go anywhere near if they're foraging for berries. I really hope nobody's collecting it.

 

[booklover]

At one time, belladonna was thought of as a stimulant. Not any more!