ANTIFA / Antifascist Action / Antifaschistische Aktion - The anti-fascist gang with fascist tendencies

Fuck the hippies, and fuck anyone who romanticizes them basically.
I'm not sure what people should do, though. Do you care about anything? At all? You can support society as it exists, the status quo, I mean I assume someone out there thinks this is anything other than absolute shit, I'm not sure why. But somehow, we're here. And this shit exists. So if you support the status quo, I suppose great, you actually have something to support.

But suppose you think it's shit. Most people I know seem to think it's shit. Where do you go? Do you become an SJW? This is the worst kind of controlled opposition there is. You're literally just supporting the status quo under another name. Antifa? BLM? All corporate controlled shit.

The hippies were more or less in the same situation, although it was not as obvious back then. I know a lot of ex-hippies, neo-hippies and their ilk, and they're mostly good people. Kind of dumb but good people.

So where exactly does a well intentioned person who cares about the state of the world and is very troubled by where it's going go? I mean short of becoming the Unabomber or some other crazed maniac, what the fuck is there to do?

It really seems the only thing to do is drop out entirely, become an alienated, depressed isolationist, or go on a spree.

Don't tell me that being a hippie is worse than that.
 
I'm not sure what people should do, though. Do you care about anything? At all? You can support society as it exists, the status quo, I mean I assume someone out there thinks this is anything other than absolute shit, I'm not sure why. But somehow, we're here. And this shit exists. So if you support the status quo, I suppose great, you actually have something to support.

But suppose you think it's shit. Most people I know seem to think it's shit. Where do you go? Do you become an SJW? This is the worst kind of controlled opposition there is. You're literally just supporting the status quo under another name. Antifa? BLM? All corporate controlled shit.

The hippies were more or less in the same situation, although it was not as obvious back then. I know a lot of ex-hippies, neo-hippies and their ilk, and they're mostly good people. Kind of dumb but good people.

So where exactly does a well intentioned person who cares about the state of the world and is very troubled by where it's going go? I mean short of becoming the Unabomber or some other crazed maniac, what the fuck is there to do?

It really seems the only thing to do is drop out entirely, become an alienated, depressed isolationist, or go on a spree.

Don't tell me that being a hippie is worse than that.
I care about a lot of stuff to be honest. I volunteer at a local food bank, and otherwise try to be conscious of what I'm doing, but not obsessive and not a sanctimonious arse in real life or prone to simplistic solutions. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, after all. Maybe its daoist, but the Gondola meme really got to me. I'm just not a utopian, and have very, very large delusions about anything utopian. The world isn't all pain, its not all good, and perspective is important- I think the big thing is to just not become nihilistic.

I actually think that a lot of the social movements are ironically just that. Its finding out there are are some injustices in the world, not being able to stand that, and rightfully being outraged. I just think that the outrage sometimes blinds people to the good in life as well, and sometimes the response to the outrage leads people down some roads that unleash things that can also have negative effects on society, that look good from far away- but the grass isn't necessarily greener on the other side.

I think that adults have to realize, at some point or the other, that the messiah complex that most youth have just isn't realistic and if you can rile up the mob, usually riling up a mob has a habit of backfiring. I also don't think we need to change the world. We need to be concious of our role in the world at large, to try and minimize damage as much as is reasonable, but otherwise its more important to try and make the things within your immediate life and community better. Scope creep is a really psychologically damning thing when it comes to social justice. I'm not saying don't care about a tribe in East Timur getting slaughtered, make an active choice to try and avoid Indonesian goods if you can, but its not something worth falling on your sword for and forgetting your own local community's issues over. A lot of social justice, with forgetting the proles because theyre working class, but solidarity with x group in Tanzania seems to parallel on that in its most toxic form.

I don't like or think the unabomber is actually all that wise. I think he did a lot of wrong, and his ideology isn't even all that sound. Hes really just a recalcitrant luddite who thinks we can put the genie back into the bottle and turn back time. Maybe its more accelerationist (not the stupid collapsionist stuff that people laud), but a lot of our current society I do see as pretty inevitable. I also don't like living in the woods and like my technology. The right step would probably be to imagine a technological society differently, rather than imagine it not existing at all in its modern incarnation. Killing people over this sort of thing, just seems unironically autistic.

I don't think people should get depressed. I think the world will continue living, and just because its not a perfect world doesn't mean you don't try and take the time to look at the flowers as you go through it. Think Gondola, thats really the best of memes. Its a really shitty world in a lot of places. Put out a helping hand if you can, but don't get angry if people don't take your hand, and don't take it personally. Don't try and take on the entirety of the world's sins on your shoulder, thats entirely crushing. To add in another religious analogy, its a christ like messianic position to take, and something that most religions would teach you is unhealthy, psychologically damaging, and a bit narsissistic, tbh.

How do you think a Buddhist monk feels in a temple, knowing the darkness the world has? They acknowledge it, and find peace in accepting it, accepting their own meager role, and when their own meager abilities allow them to make a positive change- do so as opportunity presents itself and not obsessing over the cases where opportunity for change simply does not manifest.

This is TLDR at this point, but the reason I dislike hippies is they get a lot of that stuff wrong. Was talking with a friend about the current "Sex positive" movement now, and how it just seemed really anything but sex positive. It seemed more, nihilistic? More coomsoomerist, more self-indulgent, and more atomized- rendering individuals just the sum of their sexual validation from strangers. I don't think that hippies are worst than deranged doomers, but they have their own problems and a lot of them seem pretty dumb. The same way "woooo, drugs!" opened a dark side of humanity and was portrayed in a positive manner, a lot of naive thinking can actually just turn out to be just another form of an indulgent lifestyle that doesn't even necessarily open someone up to some of the greater things in life, it only makes them sink deeper.

Thats part of why I didn't like capitalism in the first place, I saw it as inherently a nihilistic approach to living and life as a whole. Its why, liberals, hippies, or whomever like to talk about how sex work is liberating, drugs are liberating, porn is liberating, this is sex-positive, that is sex-positive, cheap commodities are liberating, and a lot of it seems good natured, if quite recalcitrant, but when replicated as a mass level within society it can become another trap unto itself that people get sucked into. Where the hate comes from is (and maybe thats a stronger word than how I actually feel), is that a lot of societal problems I do believe stem from ill thought out social drives that didn't turn out all that well for everyone. When things go fucky, its usually the bourjy types of people who are fine and the poor who suffer. Most hippies don't awknowledge that. In black communities, the 60s liberated the culture from a pretty stable social bedrock in a really fucked up way when the church was tossed out. Obsession with sex and liberation of sex saw a massive rise in prostitution within the poorer segments in society. Thats why I really dislike the hippies, and I see a lot of parallels between their generation, and antifa today.
 
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I had an interesting epiphany of sorts.

Next time someone talks about how Antifa is the good guys, that they're the anti-fascist group and it's good that they're fighting the 'fash'...

...ask them if they think a group named 'the Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice' might be good people? I mean, they want to promote virtue, and prevent vice (bad things), so clearly they're good, right?

Then remind them that's the official title of the muttawa, the Saudi religious police.

I doubt it'll dent their worldview, but it might amuse you.
 
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She's not lying, that's the profile picture of Portland's mayor on that computer.
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The Canadian Anti-Hate Network has retweeted a panel discussion featuring Morgane Oger. Morgane Oger forced the city of Vancouver to pull funding from a rape crisis centre.

The Canadian Anti-Hate Network does not care about rape victims. It would rather give a platform to a man who abandoned his family and took real, physical support away from rape victims.
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I'm not sure what happened today, but antifa went apeshit on vehicles.

Antifa are trying to either
A) Kill people because their political terrorism is allowed by the local authorities
or
B) Provoke a response knowing the local authorities will terrorize their would-be victim

The only winning move is to not be there and find....alternate opportunities to make a political impact. Maybe build a nice statue in minecraft.
 
Antifa are trying to either
A) Kill people because their political terrorism is allowed by the local authorities
or
B) Provoke a response knowing the local authorities will terrorize their would-be victim

The only winning move is to not be there and find....alternate opportunities to make a political impact. Maybe build a nice statue in minecraft.
At one point, a guy drew down on these faggots for busting up his truck, and then Salem PD jumped to the rescue and... arrested the driver.

Holy fuck, give me all the hats because I am madder than the Doomguy on a weekend safari into the 40k Warp. If you're not going to uphold the law and keep the peace, as a police officer, exactly what the fuck are you drawing a paycheck and pension for, faggot? If the political catamites want to neuter you, then you need to think long and hard about how badly you want to remain a cop in that jurisdiction, because anyone willing to yank your leash like that will also be willing to yeet your ass under the bus if it becomes politically convenient.
 
At one point, a guy drew down on these faggots for busting up his truck, and then Salem PD jumped to the rescue and... arrested the driver.

Holy fuck, give me all the hats because I am madder than the Doomguy on a weekend safari into the 40k Warp. If you're not going to uphold the law and keep the peace, as a police officer, exactly what the fuck are you drawing a paycheck and pension for, faggot? If the political catamites want to neuter you, then you need to think long and hard about how badly you want to remain a cop in that jurisdiction, because anyone willing to yank your leash like that will also be willing to yeet your ass under the bus if it becomes politically convenient.
If I have learned anything over the past year or so, is that the police are almost always the loyal lapdogs of the liberal elite, or if not, they still don't want to do their jobs, just like any other basic bastard in this "society" that we currently have. The only police force that I've actually seen to even halfway want to do anything about this bullshit is the LAPD, and even that might not be true.
 
If I have learned anything over the past year or so, is that the police are almost always the loyal lapdogs of the liberal elite, or if not, they still don't want to do their jobs, just like any other basic bastard in this "society" that we currently have. The only police force that I've actually seen to even halfway want to do anything about this bullshit is the LAPD, and even that might not be true.
We might add Sheriff David Clarke to the list. Note then this video is two years old.
 
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Holy fuck, give me all the hats because I am madder than the Doomguy on a weekend safari into the 40k Warp. If you're not going to uphold the law and keep the peace, as a police officer, exactly what the fuck are you drawing a paycheck and pension for, faggot?
Really just makes me angry, but guessing that even if the police arrest these vandals, theyll simply get released by the DA a few days later.

You also have to add in that if the police try and arrest someone vandalizing a car, these antifa people are likely to mob up, probably attack the police, and film the situation to portray the police as the bad guys to get their way, and its just going to be a hassle to deal with. Its just a lose-lose situation with the cops, and thats what makes me sad, because these people are vandals and they have essentially gotten their way.

IMO, noone should be going to Portland and in a way, a lot of counter protestors are somewhat "asking for it" by doing something that is obviously going to cause antifa to sperg out, knowing the cops will do nothing/are able to do nothing.

Saying that, this still pisses me off because this behavior of vandalize property and get away with it has been normalized, and these property crimes are simply not being prosecuted. The guy with the gun should have a right to defend himself, but apparently not.

Fuck the PNW tbh, I hope that anyone with sense gets out of there, and that the place rots for how its developed.
 
The Canadian Anti-Hate Network posts an e-begging twitter thread (I guess that grant they got from the government disappeared right into their pockets!)

They claim that hate crime stats are incomplete because not all hate crimes are reported to police. They want some kind of self reporting mechanism.

This is bad, it would mean no oversight to ensure complaints are real as opposed to a Jussie or one of the dozens (hundreds?) of false hate crime reports that started after Trump was elected.

They know this, of course. Their board has two notorious boomer race baiters, Richard Warman and Bernie Farber. They can solicit more donations and bigger grants if hate crime stats are inflated.

Surprised no one is talking about this (or not - Warman is extremely litigious, having once sued several libraries for carrying books criticising him).
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The Canadian Anti-Hate Network posts an e-begging twitter thread (I guess that grant they got from the government disappeared right into their pockets!)

They claim that hate crime stats are incomplete because not all hate crimes are reported to police. They want some kind of self reporting mechanism.

This is bad, it would mean no oversight to ensure complaints are real as opposed to a Jussie or one of the dozens (hundreds?) of false hate crime reports that started after Trump was elected.

They know this, of course. Their board has two notorious boomer race baiters, Richard Warman and Bernie Farber. They can solicit more donations and bigger grants if hate crime stats are inflated.

Surprised no one is talking about this (or not - Warman is extremely litigious, having once sued several libraries for carrying books criticising him).
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I read the last part: "We're a lean organization and every dollar you give us goes in a long way...". In a long way in the term of offshore accounts like the SPLC I presume? :smug:
 
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